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Tape of Gene Scott announcing Christine is his wife

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gstanton

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Dec 5, 2007, 10:47:02 PM12/5/07
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Hi King's Houses!

I found the tape of Dr. Scott at 18th Anniversary Service at Cathedral(not
Hope Street as I first thought). Nov 6,1994. Willie Brown,Mayor Bradley and
Christine looked beautiful in a yellow suit. Both were wearing rings.

More later, gotta go.

Blessings,
Barb

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matt2442

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:19:46 AM12/6/07
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On Dec 5, 7:47 pm, "gstanton" <barbaratulli...@nospam.webtv.net>
wrote:

> Hi King's Houses!
>
> I found the tape of Dr. Scott at 18th Anniversary Service at Cathedral(not
> Hope Street as I first thought). Nov 6,1994. Willie Brown,Mayor Bradley and
> Christine looked beautiful in a yellow suit. Both were wearing rings.
>
> More later, gotta go.
>
> Blessings,
> Barb

Matt2442:
Can you get that on youtube?? This is the one Gondar said never
happened.

brea...@aol.com

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:25:34 AM12/6/07
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I find this hard to believe also. I need to dig out that service not
that she gave us the date and see if it is true.

Breaujeff

rpbc

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Dec 6, 2007, 2:00:49 AM12/6/07
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Breaujeff

rpbc wrote:
For whatever it is worth I remember Gene Scott saying he was married to
Christine. I don't remember the date but absolutely remember him saying
it. He wore the ring a few weeks before he made the announcement. You
could see it on TV, you could really see it on festival. At the time I
remember thinking that he was showing it to the vof before he let the
camera see knowing the message would travel the grapevine and lesson the
impact when he made the announcement. Don't ask me why he's want the
impact lessoned but that is the way I observed it. His parents had issues
with Scott marrying Christine... one for it, one against. It might have
had to do with that. He married her after Pop died. Christine.... come
settle this would you...... All of us who like you will love you for it
and those who don't like you will just stay the same.

Garadawg S

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Dec 6, 2007, 10:22:38 AM12/6/07
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I am one also who has really doubted that this event
occurred at the Cathedral as described. I remember him
wearing the ring and the gossip when people saw it. But I
was an usher at that time and remember observing Christine
many times with no ring.

I do remember much, much later Doc telling the story about
their trip to Anguilla to formalize their marriage with
Mayor Bradley and other distinguished people as their
guests and the disaster that proceeded when Christine failed
to appear at the ceremony.

Doc had a very precise view of marriage as seen from God's
eyes.

So I would really like to see that video too.

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matt2442

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Dec 6, 2007, 11:52:36 AM12/6/07
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On Dec 6, 7:22 am, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am one also who has really doubted that this event
> occurred at the Cathedral as described. I remember him
> wearing the ring and the gossip when people saw it. But I
> was an usher at that time and remember observing Christine
> many times with no ring.
>
> I do remember much, much later Doc telling the story about
> their trip to Anguilla to formalize their marriage with
> Mayor Bradley and other distinguished people as their
> guests and the disaster that proceeded when Christine failed
> to appear at the ceremony.
>
> Doc had a very precise view of marriage as seen from God's
> eyes.
>
> So I would really like to see that video too.
>

Matt2442:
I'm surprised that 3 of you who supported Doc for so long missed that.
I was no longer attending at the time. I just turned on the Sunday
service, a rare thing for me after leaving, and distinctly remember,
in response to a newspaper article that called Christie Scott's wife,
him bringing her onstage and acknowledging it. It wasn't an
announcement like the one he made regarding Melissa though.

prettykitty

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:06:07 PM12/6/07
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I remember doc bringing Christine out on stage at the LAUC too matt.
He said they were married.
I thought it was nice that he was finally acknowledging her and how hard
she had always worked for him.

Garadawg S

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:20:54 PM12/6/07
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OK. I will say no more. If you say so I'm sure it happened.
Perhaps I was on vacation that week or whatever.


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Green Manalishi

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:38:47 PM12/6/07
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:47:02 -0600, "gstanton"
<barbara...@nospam.webtv.net> wrote:

I remember watching when it happened.

Why all the secrecy? Why did he wait so long to say that he was
married? What is so bad about saying he got married?

He didn't even have to confuse the issue with fake names like "Melissa
Holiday." Christine never had a porn past.

Green Manalishi

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:23:49 PM12/6/07
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On Dec 5, 7:47 pm, "gstanton" <barbaratulli...@nospam.webtv.net>
wrote:

YUP!! I was there when he did this. Little did I know doc and Masry
would play such 'marriage' games with Christine.

gondar

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:38:42 PM12/6/07
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Yes I would like to see it as well. I can see why I would not have seen
that as I was on the frontier at the time in college in Alabama.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:42:11 PM12/6/07
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> He didn't even have to confuse the issue with fake names like "Melissa
> Holiday." Christine never had a porn past.
>

Well, she dressed as a playboy bunny in the Playboy Club here in Los
Angeles in the late 70's. I'm betting she was a call girl, too. Just
like Melissa Pastore "Barbie Bridges" Scott was

DP

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Dec 6, 2007, 2:34:57 PM12/6/07
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How long had Doc and Christine been married before he publicly
announced it at this service?

-DP

rpbc

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:31:09 PM12/6/07
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Garadawg wrote:
I am one also who has really doubted that this event
occurred at the Cathedral as described. I remember him
wearing the ring and the gossip when people saw it. But I
was an usher at that time and remember observing Christine
many times with no ring.

I do remember much, much later Doc telling the story about
their trip to Anguilla to formalize their marriage with
Mayor Bradley and other distinguished people as their
guests and the disaster that proceeded when Christine failed
to appear at the ceremony.

Doc had a very precise view of marriage as seen from God's
eyes.

So I would really like to see that video too.

rpbc wrote:
Even though I distinctly remember Scott saying it your sincerity brings
moments of self doubt. I'd like to hear it too.

rpbc

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:33:22 PM12/6/07
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rpbc wrote:
That's the way I remember it too Matt. If there was a way to put money on
this I'd be calling my bookie.

gondar

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:37:09 PM12/6/07
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Barb

What is the VF number? I may have it on audio tape as I was getting them
on the frontier at the time, though not every week.

rpbc

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Dec 6, 2007, 4:12:00 PM12/6/07
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There's a good chance what ever tape is available from Scott, frontier or
for volunteers not able to attend the service included would not have that
on them. Scott often edited out sections he considered personally
sensitive or not revelant to the message. I'm quite sure he would have
edited that out, maybe even having to do with the secrecy he made of it in
the first place. The only taped version containing him saying that would
most likely be on a private copy recorded live off the air at the time of
the original broadcast. I know this sounds a little convuluted but using
tapes provided by Scott to prove a negative makes that proposition even
more unsound. I've seen those edits myself comparing my own taped copy at
the time to what was available from Scott. I have very clear memory of him
saying it about Christine as do many others. Too bad Christine didn't play
it out to the conclusion.

Green Manalishi

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Dec 6, 2007, 5:00:55 PM12/6/07
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:42:11 -0800 (PST), johnsmi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

I was not aware of that info. If this is true he must have had an
obsession with sexual perversion.

prettykitty

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Dec 6, 2007, 5:26:34 PM12/6/07
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by "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> Dec 6, 2007 at 03:12 PM

There's a good chance what ever tape is available from Scott, frontier or
for volunteers not able to attend the service included would not have
that
on them. Scott often edited out sections he considered personally
sensitive or not revelant to the message. I'm quite sure he would have
edited that out, maybe even having to do with the secrecy he made of it
in
the first place. The only taped version containing him saying that would
most likely be on a private copy recorded live off the air at the time of
the original broadcast. I know this sounds a little convuluted but using
tapes provided by Scott to prove a negative makes that proposition even
more unsound. I've seen those edits myself comparing my own taped copy
at
the time to what was available from Scott. I have very clear memory of
him
saying it about Christine as do many others. Too bad Christine didn't
play
it out to the conclusion.

pK wrote: yes, you are right about doc's editing out stuff. I remember
when John Jordon left,how doc edited him out of all the Sunday services.
It was like he'd never been there.
I remember one time when doc left instructions for the guys in the vtr
room to be putting up his Romans series nightly.
He went rip shit when they played them from the top without editing out
John and his singing.He through a fit that night that they didn't know
better then to edit out John before replaying the Roman series.After that
you never saw John again. Christine was another he would not show in
re-runs.

WeatherMan

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Dec 6, 2007, 5:32:52 PM12/6/07
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by Green Manalishi <RonaldM...@happymeal.com> Dec 6, 2007 at 03:00 PM

WM-You may remember him saying that a man would rather hear a prostitute
call his pencil a tank than be demeaned by his wife night and day.

"take it from the old man" he said.

His real problem with Swagart was that he was a hypocrite about it.

gondar

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Dec 6, 2007, 8:16:36 PM12/6/07
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Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.

Judee77

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Dec 6, 2007, 8:40:44 PM12/6/07
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I remember Doc announcing this as clear as day. I even had bets with
the Hubster about them being married all along.

Christine was wearing a white suit (I think), and looked very nervous
(which I absolutely understand why, considering Doc's motivation for
finally letting everyone know of the marriage.) Also, it was at LAUC.

It happened right around the time they split up, and IMO, Doc brought
her up on that stage to say she was his wife in order to more tightly
bind her to him. I think it surprised her cause they were already
having problems (because the sobbing Doc did not too long after that,
on the very same stage, telling the congregation he'd let his guard
down, and that "someone" was now going after the church assets).

I believe the announcment was also a way to villianize her should
things not work out. I mean, had he not said pubicly she was his
wife, stating it after the facts wouldn't have had as much power.

Now, my commentary could be for the birds, but I'm 200% positive Doc
brought her out and said they were married (and had been for some
time.) Not long after that came the Elke shots, Doc's makeover, the
My Little Ponies phase which birthed Our Friend Flicka AKA, PMS.

gypsi...@gmail.com

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Dec 6, 2007, 9:31:49 PM12/6/07
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YEPPERS!! johnsmith, this was in her background before she was his
secretary. guess doc jest loved beautiful women?

gypsi...@gmail.com

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Dec 6, 2007, 9:33:08 PM12/6/07
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On Dec 6, 12:37 pm, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> Barb
>
> What is the VF number? I may have it on audio tape as I was getting them
> on the frontier at the time, though not every week.
>
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gondar, many of the frontier tapes were edited to exclude everything
but the SS

gypsi...@gmail.com

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Dec 6, 2007, 9:34:35 PM12/6/07
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On Dec 6, 5:16 pm, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.
>
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Not so gondar. she became his secretary

WeatherMan

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Dec 6, 2007, 10:15:29 PM12/6/07
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by "gondar" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 6, 2007 at 07:16 PM

Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.

WM-Maybe it is. But the other is true.

gondar

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Dec 6, 2007, 11:33:34 PM12/6/07
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Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.

gondar

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Dec 6, 2007, 11:35:43 PM12/6/07
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A palyboy bunny

You got any proof of that?

WeatherMan

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Dec 7, 2007, 12:01:00 AM12/7/07
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by "gondar" <ne...@funtime.com> Dec 6, 2007 at 10:35 PM

A palyboy bunny

You got any proof of that?

WM-We just got off track here a little. I was referring to the things Gene
said about prostitutes not anything about his former wife. Dont know
anything about these ideas of her here mentioned. You will have to
confront whoever posted that.

Now I do remember the day Gene announced he had married her or that they
were married. If memory serves Gene said it was two weeks before that
sunday. Thats what I remember.

studio

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Dec 7, 2007, 12:20:05 AM12/7/07
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God bless you Judee!

As I sat behind the mixing board that Sunday,
I recall a shocked Christine being practically
forced on stage making her way from the recording truck (she was directing
at that time)
and doc definately had something up his sleeve.

He was so agitated when they got back from
wherever they were that I thought he had seen a ghost...not the Holy Ghost
either!

His behaviour that week and for years after were forever changed by that
Sunday Service and the events that lead up to it.

Christine did a total number on his head.
Melissa merely finished the job.

So IMHO if you want to scale doc's slide downward
a good middle point would be that very Sunday Service.

BTW, since I was working the show, I betcha I still have the tape from
that service that was given to me by Cheryl.

Plus, I still have the tape from the week BEFORE
that was more than likely a phone patch from
where they were.

I didn't always believe doc was out of town when he called in his Sunday
duty. It kinda is the same as the "up against the wall" situation
when doc was watching but not to be seen.

The Voyueristic Dr. Gene Scott?

I've had my suspicions and Melissa is the final
acid test...know what I mean?

Doc like to watch Christine "bounce".

He also displayed that publically about her.

Doc was sure into the soft porn. The subliminal
dick tease of religion and porn.
Hook, bait and sinker.

Kruppt

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:04:24 AM12/7/07
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Yeah, that is the way it went down,
I was there that Sunday too.
It happened.

Judas HolyQuest Kruppt

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rpbc

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:42:02 AM12/7/07
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Studio wrote:


God bless you Judee!

rpbc wrote:
On the scale of Doc's downward slide I'd say that was the middle point and
it quickly rolled off from there. The turnover point that began the
downward slide was the decision announced at the banquets to join the
movers and shakers. From then on it was simply inertia ever pulled by
gravity.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:51:12 AM12/7/07
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> rpbc wrote:
>
> On the scale of Doc's downward slide I'd say that was the middle point and
> it quickly rolled off from there. The turnover point that began the
> downward slide was the decision announced at the banquets to join the
> movers and shakers. From then on it was simply inertia ever pulled by
> gravity.

Matt2442:
That was the point of Doc selling out on the power of the Spirit, and
going for the power of worldly influence and recognition.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:56:58 AM12/7/07
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On Dec 6, 5:40 pm, Judee77 <EvolutionLu...@aol.com> wrote:
> I remember Doc announcing this as clear as day. I even had bets with
> the Hubster about them being married all along.
>
> Christine was wearing a white suit (I think), and looked very nervous
> (which I absolutely understand why, considering Doc's motivation for
> finally letting everyone know of the marriage.) Also, it was at LAUC.
>
> It happened right around the time they split up, and IMO, Doc brought
> her up on that stage to say she was his wife in order to more tightly
> bind her to him. I think it surprised her cause they were already
> having problems (because the sobbing Doc did not too long after that,
> on the very same stage, telling the congregation he'd let his guard
> down, and that "someone" was now going after the church assets).

Matt2442:
I remember seeing that as well. At the time, Doc seemed so broken,
that I thought he might get back on track, and even made one return
visit to LAUC on an Easter Sunday around that time. The pony girls
phase came in a very short time after that though, and we can see how
that ended up.

WeatherMan

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Dec 7, 2007, 7:04:45 AM12/7/07
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I've had my suspicions and Melissa is the final
acid test...know what I mean?-Studio


WM-He was warned.

Garadawg S

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Dec 7, 2007, 9:43:36 AM12/7/07
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OK. What you're talking about is when they got back from the
planned ceremony in Anguilla that went awry. Correct? I
saw him practically drag Christine into the Cathedral and
make her sit in the front row. He had been wearing a
clerical collar every Sunday up until that day. On that day
it was a plain old dress shirt.

Is that what we're talking about?

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Garadawg S

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Dec 7, 2007, 10:37:10 AM12/7/07
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Sure! She looked nervous because she had been caught
spending the night in the room of the tennis pro Doc had
hired to give her tennis lessons. This happened in Anguilla.
So of course Doc was agitated "like he had seen a ghost."
And Doc had been wearing his wedding ring long before this
happened. But, as I said before, Christine never wore a
wedding ring. I thought (but never shared the thought with
anyone) that Doc considered them married but Christine did
not.

This is definitely not the way Barb explains it. Barb's
version is a very happy occassion. Barb describes the
attendance of Tom Bradley and Willy Brown ***in Anguilla***
"Christine looked beautiful in a yellow suit." There is no
tape of that.

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johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 10:58:53 AM12/7/07
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On 6 Dec, 20:35, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> A palyboy bunny
>
> You got any proof of that?
>
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again, it's in public court records. the info is in the same court
records about her and gene going to get married and christine running
off w/ the tennis star. someone with ed masery found her in the
playboy club in LA, knew of Gene's liking of Phillipine sexy girls,
and "got the two together." I forget who brought her to Gene.

I have the case file around here somewhere. no I'm not going to dig it
up for you. what difference would it make to you? Like most Scottbots,
reformed or not, you wouldn't believe it even if it was placed right
in front of you

go waste more of our tax dollars at JPL, Gondor.

Garadawg S

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Dec 7, 2007, 11:09:15 AM12/7/07
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This is what never happened:

"gstanton" <barbara...@nospam.webtv.net> wrote in
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> Hi King's Houses!
>
> I found the tape of Dr. Scott at 18th Anniversary Service
> at Cathedral(not
> Hope Street as I first thought). Nov 6,1994. Willie
> Brown,Mayor Bradley and
> Christine looked beautiful in a yellow suit. Both were
> wearing rings.
>
> More later, gotta go.
>
> Blessings,
> Barb
>
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Garadawg S

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Here you go Gondor, but you still won't believe it, will you you
Shitbird. And this is coming from your hero Dr. Scott:

SHAW vs. SCOTT (or SHAW-SCOTT vs. SCOTT) LA COURTS DOWNTOWN
#BD284659:
I first would like to say it always amazes me when ever you open a
court case that Scott is involved with. It always drips with
hostility
and hate. I mean you can feel the hatred just by touching the paper.
No

wonder he died of Cancer, he hated and resented and persecuted so
many
close to him. His corpse must have been so foul, I seriously doubt
the
Earth would or will ever accept it. Now, opinions, aside, just the
facts:

The jist of this case filed in 1998 is that Shaw claims to have been
married to Scott either in 3/1980 or 11/28/91 and is sueing for
"various separate property assets the full extent, nature and
location
of which are unknown to petitioner at this time." Splitting because
of
irreconcilable differences.

Scott dismisses these claims and states that they were friends and
partners, but never husband and wife, and thru attorney Masry gives
tons of documentation that Shaw always claimed she was an single
woman,

employee, friend, partner, to Scott but never a wife to him.

However, The two went to Anguilla, British West Indies, site of
Scott's

International Broadcast HQ,

in 1/95, for the purpose of getting married. LA Mayor Tom Bradley
was

to be Scott's best man. But while in Anguilla Shaw disappered one
night

and after a frantic search by Scott and his enentourage she re-
appered
at 3am in the Malliouhana Hotel room and said "she didn't want to
marry

and be the wife of a preacher." She also had had an affair with "the
tennis pro" at the Malliouhana Hotel who had been hired by Scott to
play tennis with her during their stay in Anguilla.

The Shaw and Scott group return from Anguilla, and to the shock of
those close to them (basically Ed Masry, because Scott doesn't seem
to
be close to anyone but attorneys) there had been no wedding.

To avoid a costly and public fight over assets, somehow in 11/95
Scott
got Shaw to sign a "release agreement" - "fully and forever
realeasing
Scott from claims of any nature whatsoever." This agreement wasn't in
the case file and is only alluded to. Shaw claims the "release
agreement" is a scam, or forgery or something.."

Shaw claims THEY were married (or as good as married) on 11/28/91,
Thanksgiving Day, at 2 Oak Knoll, when they both told Mom-Scott that
they wished to be married but because, by that time, Mom-Scott was
resembling grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, she couldn't
remember if this had happened or not. Shaw says yes, Scott says no. I
could figure out why Shaw thought she had been married on 3/80.

Also, in 1992 Masry had married his wife Joey at Silver Oaks Ranch
and
wanted Scott/Shaw to marry with them and have a double service. They
said no, wishing to do it instead in Anguilla. Scott/Masry claim this
also proves, that while Shaw had the chance to marry Scott, she
didn't
and was single and never married to him.

Basically, Shaw doesn't have a chance in Hell of proving her side of
the case, that she was married with Scott. To fight the case, Scott's
attorney, Masry, encloses document after document proving Shaw is
single, never married to Scott. These documents are rereveling in-so-
as

they tell the origins of Shaw, and trace her income, duties with
Scott,

etc...

end part 1

PART 2

The Origins of Christine Shaw.

Shaw seems to have first appeared on the scene as a secretary for
Masry

in 1980. She was hired by him as Dr. Scott's driver and secretary.
Why
Shaw thought she was married to Scott in 1980 is unclear.

However,

A Mark Travis, who worked for Scott from 80's to the present as an
aide

to Scott, claims to have met Shaw when he was prodcuing "Richard
Pryolr

Live In Concert" in 12/79. Another producer for RP Live In Concet,
Bill

Sargen, introduced Travis to arttracte "bunny" girl from Playboy
Enterprises and this was Cristine Shaw. Travis also introduces Scott
to

Shaw in late 70's/early80's.

Shaw has one son Christian M. Shaw from a previous marrage to David
C.
Shaw. In the Shaw vs. Scott case son Christian gave a depostion
against her mother and in favor of Scott. Mother and son seem not to
get along, even tho Christian works , at the time, in some form or
antoher for Scott as did Shaw. In 1993 Shaw, with Masry and Scott
lurking over her, Shaw made up a Last Will and Testament while at one
of Scott's properties authoring Scott as the execuor of her wil if
something should happen to her, and if he couldn't, the "president of
the Wescott Christian Center would be executor." Strangely, in her
will, Shaw left 1.00 dollar to her son Christian. "I have carefully
considered this gift to Christian Shaw, and have determined that he
should be forever precluded from receiving, sharing and/or
participating in the asssets of my estate, other than the
aforemetioned

$1.00."

Everything was to be left to Scott or Wescott.

Lawyer for Christine Shaw was both Cary W. Goldstein, Beverly Hills,
310/273-7777 and Darrel Johnson. First by Johnson who she agreed to
pay

in installments then stopped paying him and got Goldstein. Johnson
sued

Shaw for not paying him, which is a whole nother Oprah. Regardless,
Both Scott and Shaw (probably just Scott, actually) wanted to come to
some kind of settlement over their relationship quietly and outside
of
the courts.
Scott claimed that Shaw made a threat to "take it public" but it was
seattled between the two, at first.

In the case documents any kind of figure suce as Scott's income or
how
much Scott was to be paying Shaw every month is blacked out with a
black marker. ANY kind of money figure concerning Scott is blacked
out.

Any where that Shaw identifys herself as a single person, not
married,
is highlighted. It's hard to learn anything about Scott's personal
finances, for obvious reasons.

Under the agreement between Shaw and Scott, reached outside of court,
Shaw was to get xxx dollars a month for 15 years from Scott . Scott
would pay Shaw's attorney Johnson and Johnson would take out his cut
and give Shaw the rest. This agreement went ok for 3 years when, in
june 1998 Shaw, totally dependant on these checks from Scott, asked
for

a restraining order in preventing Scott from sending check to
attorney
Johnson. Shaw had stopped paying Johnson and wanted all the checks to
herself. Scott refused. Shaw filed her case against him.

end part 2


INCOME TAX DOCUMENTS OF CHRISTINE SHAW

starting in 1979, Shaw started useing accountant Gary Crane, CPA, of
Box 89, Oroville, CA, as the person who filed her taxes for her. he
is
also Faith Center, Inc's accountant.
So she started using fatih center's accountant as soon as she meets
Masry.

Christine E. Shaw Single S.S. #573-84-6622

YEAR OCCUPATION ADDRESS INCOME

1979 Secretary Beverly Hills 3,877.00

1980 Secretary Beverly Hills 2,658.00

1981 secretary beverly hills 20,800.00

1982 secretary box 89 Orovilee, ca 20,800.00

1983 secretary box 89, oroville 12,300.00

1984 secretary box 89, oroville 10,159.00

1985 Director box 89, oroville 80,719.00

1986 director box 1426, oroville 71,700.00

1987 director box 1426, oroville 174,064.00

1988 director box 1426, oroville 263,121.00

1989 director box 1426, oroville
297,823.00

1990 director / interor decorator box 1426, oroville
218,561.00

1991 ?

1992 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville 272,509.00

1993 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville
294,817.00

1994 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville 237,663.00

1995 director / interior decorator box 1230, oroville 237,000.00

1996 director / interior decorator box 67E91 (sic), LA 213,303.00

end of submitted tax returns by Masry/Scott in case file.

end prt 3

Reply
part 4

MORE INCOME TAX STUFF

if Shaw and scott broke up over the "tennis pro" affair I don't know
why she's still working as a director for him as late as 1996. If ,
as
Scott claims, she was paying her a monthly agreed upon amount, I
don't
know why he's also paying her to be a Director/Interior diecorator
for
him???

According to these tax records, Shaw never had more then a couple of
Hundred dollars in bank accounts over the years $80 here, 150$ here,
$75 there, etc.

Begining in 1987, listed in here Schedule C income and Schedule B
(interest and dividend) other monies started appearing:

1. Horse winning earnings starting in 1987 and appearing each year
between 20-30k a year.

2. Starting in 1992 she was paid 20-30k a year for a "finder's fee
for
Silver Oaks Ranch." Not sure what she was finding but she was paid
well

for it.

3. In Schedule B Income (interesest and divident) begining in 1988
she
started reporting big earnings 71-150k a year in colllectable stamp
assests. She listed the stamp asset income with a Wilshire Stamp and
Auction Company, Inc, on Wilshire Blvd in Los Angeles. And guess who
the agent listed for service of process is for Wilshire Stamp and
Auction Company is? You guessed it, Patricia Glaser. In some years in
the early-to-mid 1990's the stamp asset income would come to 200k. In
1996, after she ostensibly left Scott and they had split, this
collectable stamp income was listed at 85k.

(and to think all the while Shaw and Scott have called VOF's working
for free and living in their cars. nice!)

In 1995 Shaw received a w2 from W. Eugene Scott, PhD, Inc at 2628
Perryville Road, Springfield, KY. 400069, for 160K.

Also there were w2's from Deloress Press and Dr. Gene Scott, Inc, at
331 Deodar Lane, Bradbury, CA 91010

Also in the early 1990's Shaw began getting "equipment rental" from
someone (we all know who) for 15k and for as much as 90k per year.

Her credit cards in 1992 were:

American Express - Platinum card
City Bank - Preferred card
First USA - Gold card
First Card - Gold card

first class all the way! What's it like to sleep in a car, you VOF?
lol

On ANY records containing info about Dr. Scott's income - the infor
was

ALWAYS blacked out and it would always say "Dr. Scott ownes no
personal

or real property, and earned xxxx
per year salary."

In 1987 shaw applied for a broadcast license and consttruction permit
for a new UHF televison station in Avalon on Catalini Island off of
the

SoCal coast. The venture was to be called Cataline 54 Broadcasting,
LTD.

(important background info) - Faith Center lost its license for
channel

30 in san Bernardino sometimes in the 1980's I THINK because Scott
would not let fcc investigators look at his finicial records or some
such gene scott bullshit. It was a whole big deal, blah, blah, fcc
monkey band, blah, blah. The bottom line being that Scott was on the
television airwaves FAR LESS now (this is pre-satellite, remember) so
he needs to get back on the air, ASAP. but he's pissed the fcc off,
so
how to do it, all sneaky-gene-scott-like? I KNOW! I KNOW! Let's get
Shaw to apply for a license and she'll say she doesn't know anything
about me. GOOD THINKING MASRY! Now get to work!! Christine, here's
what

you'll say, ok?....

anyways, the following is from documents in the SHAW vs. SCOTT file
about that whole deal with Shaw at a dsposition with an FCC lawyer
(and

Masry representing Shaw):

at sworn deposition with FCC lawyer (Mr. Gastfreund) ask Shaw if
she's
taken on a little too much with getting a tv station and her horses,
directing for the University Network, her stamps, her interior
doecorating. She claims she'll give it all up and just be a tv
station
owner/broadcaster. "yeah, you betcha I'll give it all up. If I sold
everything (stamps, horses, etc) I'd make alot of money," Shaw
tell's

FCC lawyer.

Shaw claims to the FCC she doesn't know anything about Faith Center
losing it's broadcast license. If given a boradcast license, the FCC
wants to know if she will carry "THE DOECTOR IS IN" on her station.
Masry blocks the question in typical lawyer speak about it not being
relevent, but is unsuccessful. Shaw claims she will NOT carry the
"DOCTOR IS IN" because "the quality of the show will go down after
she
leaves it as director." A little nugget of that conversation to give
you guys a feel of Christine Shaw, the hopeful TeeVee owner, Here's
the

FCc trying to pin Shaw down in the fact that she's a monkey for Gene
Scott:

FCC: (speaking on how the quality of the TV show THE DOCTOR IS IN
will
go down once she leaves the post of directing it, so why, oh why, on
earth would she want to AIR it on her new TV station) "Is that
right?

have you adviced your co-workers?

SHAW :MY COWORKERS!? my co-workers don't know anything about me and
what I'm doing with my life. MY LIFE IS MY LIFE and it is not their
business what I do?

FCC: Is Dr. Scott your fiance?

MASRY: OBJECTION!

FCC: I have a right to probe this.

MASRY: You do?

FCC: Yes. I Do.

MASRY: On what theroy?

FCC: (to Shaw) Is dr. Scott your fiance?

MASRY: I'm going to object to this.

FCC: You can object.

MASRY: I will hold you in contempt.

FCC: You will hold me in contempt?

MASRY: I will ask that you be held in contempt.

FCC: Goodness.

MASRY: You're harassing this witness.

FCC: Goodness gracious, goodness gracious, Mr. Masry. You don't
seriously expect me to believe you?

and it goes on an on for pages like that. Nobody takes Masry
seriously.

what a piece of shit that guy is. Isn't he dead yet. Like Scott, he's
so foul and crooked, I doub't the Earth will accept his corpse
either....

So, the FCC lawyer tries to tie Shaw with being a director or officer
of University Network, OR an officer or director of any of Scott
affliated/front corporations. She claims she's not.
The FCC lawyer presents copys of a Dolores Press, Inc, domestic stock
info listing Shaw.
This confuses her and Masry. The Gig is up for Shaw. No tv station
license (even tho she wasn't gonna put Scott on the air at her
station,

you know)...

end

next a couple of more notes...

ENDING NOTES

A process server tries to find the doctor.

During SHAW vs. SCOTT a process derver couldn't reach Scott and had
to
sigh a "declaration of due deligence, regarding sevice of process."
He
tried 15-20 times between 11/15-18, 1998 without success. he tried
at:

580 Madeline drive pasadena (what's this place? anybody know?
Scott's bachalor pad? Luxury apt. or house?)
1615 s. glendale av glendale (this is KH1, right?)

finally process server had to settle on "serving scott" with leaving
summons with Security Officer JOE BLOY at #1 Deodar Lane in Bradbury,
Ca.


Garadawg S

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johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image!

<johnsmi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d68e55d1-d905-445c...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Here's the long and short of it Gondar, so you don't have to do all
that reading:

From case #BD284659: (Los Angeles Superior Court)

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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On 7 Dec, 08:18, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image


and why is?

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 11:32:44 AM12/7/07
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Well, Gondor ?

gondar

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That is actually fairly close to how I remember it. However, the only
thing that seems ambiguous and contradictory is the claim that she was a
playboy bunny. I know for a fact that Mark Travis (who worked for Dr.
Scott) was not a producer for Richard Pryor? Where did that come from. I
was not around but the hiring of Christine by Masry rings a bell.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 12:41:12 PM12/7/07
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On Dec 7, 6:43 am, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK. What you're talking about is when they got back from the
> planned ceremony in Anguilla that went awry. Correct? I
> saw him practically drag Christine into the Cathedral and
> make her sit in the front row. He had been wearing a
> clerical collar every Sunday up until that day. On that day
> it was a plain old dress shirt.
>
> Is that what we're talking about?
>

Matt2442:
What was up with Doc's clerical collar anyway? I remember the first
day he wore it. I and one of the other ushers (Larry H) thought it was
a joke and started laughing.

gypsi...@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 12:49:42 PM12/7/07
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On Dec 6, 2:00 pm, Green Manalishi <RonaldMcDon...@happymeal.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:42:11 -0800 (PST), johnsmith34...@yahoo.com

> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> He didn't even have to confuse the issue with fake names like "Melissa
> >> Holiday." Christine never had a porn past.
>
> >Well, she dressed as a playboy bunny in the Playboy Club here in Los
> >Angeles in the late 70's. I'm betting she was a call girl, too. Just
> >like Melissa Pastore "Barbie Bridges" Scott was
>
> I was not aware of that info. If this is true he must have had an
> obsession with sexual perversion.

M Travis never minded playing the pimp for doc. Didn't you ever wonder
why it was so easy to reconnect with Elke/missy and her herd?

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:26:48 PM12/7/07
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On 7 Dec, 09:35, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> That is actually fairly close to how I remember it. However, the only
> thing that seems ambiguous and contradictory is the claim that she was a
> playboy bunny. I know for a fact that Mark Travis (who worked for Dr.
> Scott) was not a producer for Richard Pryor? Where did that come from. I
> was not around but the hiring of Christine by Masry rings a bell.
>
> --
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All of the above came from your hero Dr. Gene Scott. These are all HIS
claims in his very nasty lawsuit against Christine Shaw.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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On 6 Dec, 20:33, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.
>
> --
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So as we see, it's not a "load of horse hooey."

The Scottbots are all the same: They demand proof, thinking you won't
bother. And then you give them the proof and they backpedal and/or
scurry like the cockroaches they are.

rpbc

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:30:23 PM12/7/07
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Garadawg wrote:
OK. What you're talking about is when they got back from the
planned ceremony in Anguilla that went awry. Correct? I
saw him practically drag Christine into the Cathedral and
make her sit in the front row. He had been wearing a
clerical collar every Sunday up until that day. On that day
it was a plain old dress shirt.

Is that what we're talking about?

rpbc wrote:
I'm getting confused too. I think there a couple of events being talked
about as one. I remember the one you just referenced with Christine on
the front row next to Jean Parkin, both leaning away from each other.
Christine was dressed to the nines, hot and full of attitude, all sexy
with her legs crossed showing her power. It must have been difficult for
'ol Doc that day knowing who had the lasting power over the other, and he
was playing it as though she would suffer his loss of affection and
attention. Ten years later he was still attempting to play that card. He
lost face and the only course available to him was revenge which he sought
with a passion. I was very close to Christine on that day, close enough
to observe her every movement and the body language between them was
palpable. There he was, mister macho... there isn't a man as attractive
to a woman as one that can walk out that door... at the near end of his
power game with her. And instead of him walking out that door, she left.
For a year and a half it seems he openly sulked.... hurt and angry. There
were a few dates but when he came out it was with a fury and that began the
parade of pony girls like subjects from the realm paraded before the king
for his choosing. He made his choice and it was Melissa. His discernment
chose Melissa.

rpbc

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On 7 Dec, 08:18, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image

johnsmith wrote:
and why is?

rpbc wrote:
I was wondering that too.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:45:27 PM12/7/07
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If Gene Scott were still alive today, there would be a huge, nasty
lawsuit he would file against Melissa right about now. All for public
eyes to see and read.

Thinking of this, I'm actually kinda sorry the old man is in Hell now
instead of here throwing lawsuits and the thread of lawsuits around.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:47:06 PM12/7/07
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On 7 Dec, 10:42, "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> wrote:
> On 7 Dec, 08:18, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image
> johnsmith wrote:
>
> and why is?
>
> rpbc wrote:
>
> I was wondering that too.
>
> --
> Message posted usinghttp://www.talkaboutpeople.com/group/alt.fan.gene-scott/
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Never mind the reality of what Gene Scott was and what he did and what
his monkies do and continue to do to this day, including Melissa.

rpbc

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On 7 Dec, 10:42, "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> wrote:
> On 7 Dec, 08:18, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image
> johnsmith wrote:
>
> and why is?
>
> rpbc wrote:
>
> I was wondering that too.
>
> --
> Message posted
usinghttp://www.talkaboutpeople.com/group/alt.fan.gene-scott/
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Johnsmith wrote:
Never mind the reality of what Gene Scott was and what he did and what
his monkies do and continue to do to this day, including Melissa.

rpbc wrote:
Hey... those are Melissa's monkeys now. What's right is right.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 2:44:31 PM12/7/07
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Matt2442:
What a frickin' joke that whole phase was. The whole church
congregation got dragged through Gene Scott's personal vendetta
against Christine, even to the point of people being kicked out of
church because of their attitude towards the pony girls.
Some people there today still don't get how wrong that was. The whole
thing was completely looney tunes at that point.

studio

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Dec 7, 2007, 2:46:18 PM12/7/07
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Melissa's Monkey Band.


That's down right fitting.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:01:33 PM12/7/07
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and all the while Gondar the geat is doen' security for the good man

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:10:43 PM12/7/07
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> Matt2442:
> What a frickin' joke that whole phase was. The whole church
> congregation got dragged through Gene Scott's personal vendetta
> against Christine, even to the point of people being kicked out of
> church because of their attitude towards the pony girls.
> Some people there today still don't get how wrong that was. The whole
> thing was completely looney tunes at that point.

What does Gene Scott care? All he cared about was himself,
glorification of himself, and hurting of those he didn't like.

Which, of course, is why he died of cancer, alone.

bluetits

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:40:26 PM12/7/07
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johnsmith wrote:

International Broadcast HQ,

etc...

end part 1

PART 2

However,

$1.00."

end part 2

YEAR OCCUPATION ADDRESS INCOME

1991 ?

end prt 3

Reply
part 4

MORE INCOME TAX STUFF

for it.

you'll say, ok?....

Masry representing Shaw):

FCC lawyer.

MASRY: OBJECTION!

MASRY: You do?

FCC: Yes. I Do.

MASRY: On what theroy?

FCC: You can object.

FCC: Goodness.

you know)...

end

ENDING NOTES

bluetits writes:
(munch munch munch)
Thanks, that's a good read, John. Rings true.

WeatherMan

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:44:15 PM12/7/07
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johnsmi...@yahoo.com Dec 7, 2007 at 12:10 PM

WM-You got it all wrong. Gene was a "shrewd benus man". LOL

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:50:44 PM12/7/07
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Well, Gondar, Scottbot that he is, wanted proof. It's given to him and
he scurries away. Too much time on planet Scott, I guess.

bluetits

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Dec 7, 2007, 4:14:55 PM12/7/07
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Matt2442:
What was up with Doc's clerical collar anyway? I remember the first
day he wore it. I and one of the other ushers (Larry H) thought it was
a joke and started laughing.

bluetits writes:
Hey Matt, your first impression was correct - Doc in a clerical collar WAS
a joke.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 4:36:32 PM12/7/07
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On Dec 7, 1:14 pm, "bluetits" <frieds...@grease.net> wrote:
> Matt2442:
> What was up with Doc's clerical collar anyway? I remember the first
> day he wore it. I and one of the other ushers (Larry H) thought it was
> a joke and started laughing.
>
> bluetits writes:
>
> Hey Matt, your first impression was correct - Doc in a clerical collar WAS
> a joke.

Matt2442:
As I recall he got pissed that people thought it was a joke. That's
how he dealt with it. Of course people who had seen him during the
early 1980's up to that time would have expected this to be a joke. He
probably knew that, but whatever the reason for wearing it, he wasn't
going to allow people to laugh about it. I never understood why he
wore the thing in the first place.

Papillon

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Dec 7, 2007, 4:41:54 PM12/7/07
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I found that disturbing too when I first saw it after tuning in to a
service LONG after I'd left. As you know, Doc used to fold up a piece
of paper in to a clerical collar and hold it up to his neck and speak
in a fake "holier than thou" voice to poke fun at clergy. Then he
ends up wearing one himself. Just like he used to joke about placing
a blow-up doll with a big-hair wig next to him on the set. Then he
ends up marrying one.

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:14:01 PM12/7/07
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Whatever Christine's past, it's obvious
that Gene Scott liked pretty women with
no education, power or much money of their
own. That way he could exert some control
over where they went and how they spent
their time. He would never marry a woman
with her own career to which she was
also committed.

Can you see Gene Scott at a holiday
party with his wife and HER subordinates
and fans?

No way! Sheesh!

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:16:01 PM12/7/07
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I knew it. Why would any pretty woman
go and marry an old coot if it wasn't
the draw to his fame and power?

obviously he wasn't that good in bed!

Was Christine caught in the room of the
tennis pro, or in bed with him?

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:17:39 PM12/7/07
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Maybe that's all Gene Scott could do,
just watch and drool.

matt2442

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:20:58 PM12/7/07
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Matt2442:
That's what I'm referring to, when he made a joke of the clergy who
wore those things. When he did an about face on that though, he gave
no explanation, just bullied people that the better accept it and shut
up, or else.
Did he ever explain what the collar was about that anyone else may
have heard?

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:30:09 PM12/7/07
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Johnsmith, I wasn't there but it surely
looks to me like Gene Scott was controlling
Christine's every move. She probably was
referring to herself as single to keep up
the charade Gene Scott had that she was
"just his secretary" for all those years.

In 1995, Melissa has said more than once
that she and Gene were a couple by
Christmas, albeit clandestine. There
were other pony girls around too.

Why would he marry Christine then? Didn't
Christine file for a divorce in 1996?

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:32:29 PM12/7/07
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johnsmith's doing an edifying job.
Keep going john.

Did Christine continue on with the
tennis pro? Did they end up together
while vile Gene tried to split them
up? Wonder if he couldn't do anything
because of his "condition" then?

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 7, 2007, 5:34:46 PM12/7/07
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Matt, they got dragged through it and
seemed to twist it into some mission
for God. Like they do now for Melissa.
Have the minions no lives and drama
of their own?

gondar

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Actually, you haven't. This is what was in your post.

******


Shaw seems to have first appeared on the scene as a secretary for
Masry

in 1980. She was hired by him as Dr. Scott's driver and secretary.
Why
Shaw thought she was married to Scott in 1980 is unclear.

However,

A Mark Travis, who worked for Scott from 80's to the present as an
aide

to Scott, claims to have met Shaw when he was prodcuing "Richard
Pryolr

Live In Concert" in 12/79. Another producer for RP Live In Concet,
Bill

Sargen, introduced Travis to arttracte "bunny" girl from Playboy
Enterprises and this was Cristine Shaw. Travis also introduces Scott
to

Shaw in late 70's/early80's.

********

That is three different versions of Dr. Scott meeting Christine. Unlike
you, I spent a fair amount of time around her and Dr. Scott and it is the
first one that comes closest to what I remember. I really did not care or
ask, that is just what I heard at the time.

Travis was certainly not a producer in Hollowood for someone of Pryor's
stature so that part is total bs.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Yeah, hard to believe Gene Scott would lie, isn't it?

No, you wanted proof that Shaw worked as a playboy bunny in a club and
I gave it to you, straight from your hero's mouth

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 7, 2007, 10:30:37 PM12/7/07
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and Gondar, I wouldn't exactly brag about being around Gene Scott so
much and being on his goon detail security team. Kinda makes you look
like a dumbass, dumbass

Judee77

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Dec 8, 2007, 12:03:36 AM12/8/07
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Okay, I'm confused. Call me a dumbass...I wouldn't care. But I know
what I saw and I saw Doc introduce Christine as his wife to the
congregation. I know she looked like a deer trapped in headlights.

My feeling at the time was watching someone motivated by fear
(Scott's). Why else get the congregation's hoots and hollers over
such an announcement? To push Christine farther into Doc's hold.

I could be wrong over the timeframe, but I thought it was after the
dingaling in Tuscon at the Okay Corral. Which pushed Doc into some
warped frenzy of hanging onto Christine even tighter. Parading her
before the Bots got them on Doc's side...then, when not too much
longer he appeared absolutely heartbroken over her betrayl: instant
sympathy for this crushed soul and loathing toward the one who not
only hurt him, but was now going after the Church assets.

Not long after that...payback time when Elke did a photo shoot at the
ranch, hanging all over Doc and Doc teasing the congregation about how
much we would all enjoy seeing it later that day on Festival. (How
could anyone actually state they wouldn't? Why, one could end up in
hell over that.)

Once that was "accepted" (how could it be turned down...not worth
going to hell over), Doc unrolled the thong twins, Budweiser Babes,
and a very peppy Mel shaking her crotch all over the stage as "back-
up" to John and Toni.

Take that, Christine!

As Doc jumped off the cliff, hanging suspended by delusions of
grandeur until Mel finally cut the web and watched him fall.

So, what the heck was that thingie I just read by JohnSmith? There's
a million witnesses who watched Doc set Christine up that day. Was
this sweet little document part of Doc's wrath on wife # two for
choosing hell over him?

W_Bane

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So where is Christine Shaw now?

gypsi...@gmail.com

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>
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seems to me that this was about the time he proclaimed himself a
domata?

Papillon

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Which apparently does not mean "the one with the gifts" in Greek, but
rather means "one whose wiener does not function." Hey, the dude's
wife was doing the tennis pro on their wedding day. He had to declare
himself a Bishop, a domata, and slap on a clerical collar to deal with
that ego crushing blow.

emal...@adelphia.net

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On 7 Dec, 10:29, johnsmith34...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 6 Dec, 20:33, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
>
> > Load of horse hooey. Christine was a secretary from the Phillipines.

>
> > --
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>
> So as we see, it's not a "load of horse hooey."
>
> The Scottbots are all the same: They demand proof, thinking you won't
> bother. And then you give them the proof and they backpedal and/or
> scurry like the cockroaches they are.


Emmett writes:
John, thanks for all the work but in 3 weeks gondar and all the
scottbots will deny any of this stuff. Once the lights go out
they come back out and it's the same old mantra. Dr. jean was
a good preacher anointed by God and had great teachings that
will continue on until the 2nd coming. Dr. jean was a saint and the
greatest preacher/teacher in the last 2000 years. Dr. jean is now
with Jesus watchin over our souls. It never ends.

emal...@adelphia.net

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On 7 Dec, 10:42, "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> wrote:
> On 7 Dec, 08:18, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image
> johnsmith wrote:
>
> and why is?
>
> rpbc wrote:
>
> I was wondering that too.
>
>
Emmett writes:
It's simple.
Them scottbots can't stand the truth.

emal...@adelphia.net

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On 7 Dec, 10:45, johnsmith34...@yahoo.com wrote:
> If Gene Scott were still alive today, there would be a huge, nasty
> lawsuit he would file against Melissa right about now. All for public
> eyes to see and read.
>
> Thinking of this, I'm actually kinda sorry the old man is in Hell now
> instead of here throwing lawsuits and the thread of lawsuits around.

Emmett writes:
You're right but the scottbots would still be supporting Dr. jean
stronger than ever. More money, longer hours for the VOF's
and more glory for Dr. jean.

emal...@adelphia.net

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On 7 Dec, 11:44, matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 10:30 am, "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> wrote:
>
> snip

>
>
> Matt2442:
> What a frickin' joke that whole phase was. The whole church
> congregation got dragged through Gene Scott's personal vendetta
> against Christine, even to the point of people being kicked out of
> church because of their attitude towards the pony girls.
> Some people there today still don't get how wrong that was. The whole
> thing was completely looney tunes at that point.-

Emmett writes:
Looney tunes was my description of Dr. jean and his followers
from the very beginning in 1976 or so. I was just amazed that
everyone else couldn't see it.

emal...@adelphia.net

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Emmett writes:
Don't forget that Dr. jean is still watchin over their souls
so they have to be careful what they say or do.

matt2442

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On Dec 8, 9:39 am, gypsiel...@gmail.com wrote:

Matt2442:
The "domata" thing came in the late 1980's after Hope Street as I
recall, but in earnest about the time the clerical collar came out.

rpbc

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Dec 9, 2007, 3:18:36 AM12/9/07
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dtt wrote:
Whatever Christine's past, it's obvious
that Gene Scott liked pretty women with
no education, power or much money of their
own. That way he could exert some control
over where they went and how they spent
their time. He would never marry a woman
with her own career to which she was
also committed.

Can you see Gene Scott at a holiday
party with his wife and HER subordinates
and fans?

No way! Sheesh!

rpbc wrote:
Yes, but unlike missy Christine actually had some talent the situation.

jerichosfalling

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Dec 9, 2007, 8:51:41 AM12/9/07
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Ignorance is bliss Dennis. That's why Doc kept
everyone from comparing notes. His version of
lies was sold as the truth. He convinced folks
that nothing was their business when it
certainly is the business of the congregation
who support the church to know where that
support is going and who it's going for.

gondar

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Dec 9, 2007, 2:12:06 PM12/9/07
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No, you wanted proof that Shaw worked as a playboy bunny in a club and I
gave it to you, straight from your hero's mouth

--

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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On 9 Dec, 11:12, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> No, you wanted proof that Shaw worked as a playboy bunny in a club and I
> gave it to you, straight from your hero's mouth
>
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Yeah, that's right. Want to cut-and-paste anymore of my posts, dumbass?

matt2442

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On Dec 9, 5:51 am, "jerichosfalling" <d...@cog.net> wrote:
> Ignorance is bliss Dennis. That's why Doc kept
> everyone from comparing notes. His version of
> lies was sold as the truth. He convinced folks
> that nothing was their business when it
> certainly is the business of the congregation
> who support the church to know where that
> support is going and who it's going for.

Matt2442:
Yes it is. How Doc got any of us to buy into that "it's none of your
business what I do with the money" crap is mind boggling.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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Dec 9, 2007, 5:46:19 PM12/9/07
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cause you guys are stupid?

studio

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Dec 9, 2007, 5:55:28 PM12/9/07
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Stupid is waaaay too easy.

no johnsmith, it's just not that simple
to define.

Trusting someone....and lettng your
guard down.

It happens all the time in short lived marriages
and long term family abuses.

Garadawg S

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You're special!

<emal...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:2cf80a8c-1781-466a...@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

gondar

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Dec 9, 2007, 8:00:05 PM12/9/07
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yawn

That all you got? Three stories that don't agree with each other?

Yer funny.

Keep trying.

johnsmi...@yahoo.com

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On 9 Dec, 17:00, "gondar" <n...@funtime.com> wrote:
> yawn
>
> That all you got? Three stories that don't agree with each other?
>
> Yer funny.
>
> Keep trying.
>
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You should have paid better attention to Gene Scott. When he wasn't
fucking w/ people's lives, he knew a thing or two about sandbagging
folks. Just keep talking, loud w/ funny hats, and maybe people won't
pay attention to what the fuck is being said.

Face it Gondar, you're just another flying monkey, another Wescott
Failure.

Fuck you

gondar

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Dec 10, 2007, 1:15:42 AM12/10/07
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This is a response? Is that the limit of your reasoning ability? Oh well,
I at least thought you could communicate in complete sentences. Come back
when you learn some proper English.

damnthetorpedos

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Dec 10, 2007, 2:29:39 AM12/10/07
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That must be why Gene Scott and his aides always
said "just keep watching" when a natural and
glaring question would arise. They didn't know
what to say and Gene Scott was being inconsistent
or off the wall from the Bible.

gypsi...@gmail.com

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On Dec 7, 4:04 am, "WeatherMan" <WeatherCent...@Jackass.com> wrote:
> I've had my suspicions and Melissa is the final
> acid test...know what I mean?-Studio
>
> WM-He was warned.

>
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RE: "I've had my suspicions and Melissa is the final
acid test...know what I mean?" -Studio

gypsie: they deserved each other.

gypsi...@gmail.com

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On Dec 7, 8:18 am, "Garadawg S" <garad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> johnsmith34556, you give this NG a very bad image!
>
> <johnsmith34...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d68e55d1-d905-445c...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Here you go Gondor, but you still won't believe it, will
> > you you
> > Shitbird. And this is coming from your hero Dr. Scott:
>
> > SHAW vs. SCOTT (or SHAW-SCOTT vs. SCOTT) LA COURTS
> > DOWNTOWN
> > #BD284659:
> > I first would like to say it always amazes me when ever
> > you open a
> > court case that Scott is involved with. It always drips
> > with
> > hostility
> > and hate. I mean you can feel the hatred just by touching
> > the paper.
> > No
>
> > wonder he died of Cancer, he hated and resented and
> > persecuted so
> > many
> > close to him. His corpse must have been so foul, I
> > seriously doubt
> > the
> > Earth would or will ever accept it. Now, opinions, aside,
> > just the
> > facts:
>
> > The jist of this case filed in 1998 is that Shaw claims to
> > have been
> > married to Scott either in 3/1980 or 11/28/91 and is
> > sueing for
> > "various separate property assets the full extent, nature
> > and
> > location
> > of which are unknown to petitioner at this time."
> > Splitting because
> > of
> > irreconcilable differences.
>
> > Scott dismisses these claims and states that they were
> > friends and
> > partners, but never husband and wife, and thru attorney
> > Masry gives
> > tons of documentation that Shaw always claimed she was an
> > single
> > woman,
>
> > employee, friend, partner, to Scott but never a wife to
> > him.
>
> > However, The two went to Anguilla, British West Indies,
> > site of
> > Scott's
>
> > International Broadcast HQ,
>
> > in 1/95, for the purpose of getting married. LA Mayor Tom
> > Bradley
> > was
>
> > to be Scott's best man. But while in Anguilla Shaw
> > disappered one
> > night
>
> > and after a frantic search by Scott and his enentourage
> > she re-
> > appered
> > at 3am in the Malliouhana Hotel room and said "she didn't
> > want to
> > marry
>
> > and be the wife of a preacher." She also had had an affair
> > with "the
> > tennis pro" at the Malliouhana Hotel who had been hired by
> > Scott to
> > play tennis with her during their stay in Anguilla.
>
> > The Shaw and Scott group return from Anguilla, and to the
> > shock of
> > those close to them (basically Ed Masry, because Scott
> > doesn't seem
> > to
> > be close to anyone but attorneys) there had been no
> > wedding.
>
> > To avoid a costly and public fight over assets, somehow in
> > 11/95
> > Scott
> > got Shaw to sign a "release agreement" - "fully and
> > forever
> > realeasing
> > Scott from claims of any nature whatsoever." This
> > agreement wasn't in
> > the case file and is only alluded to. Shaw claims the
> > "release
> > agreement" is a scam, or forgery or something.."
>
> > Shaw claims THEY were married (or as good as married) on
> > 11/28/91,
> > Thanksgiving Day, at 2 Oak Knoll, when they both told
> > Mom-Scott that
> > they wished to be married but because, by that time,
> > Mom-Scott was
> > resembling grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, she
> > couldn't
> > remember if this had happened or not. Shaw says yes, Scott
> > says no. I
> > could figure out why Shaw thought she had been married on
> > 3/80.
>
> > Also, in 1992 Masry had married his wife Joey at Silver
> > Oaks Ranch
> > and
> > wanted Scott/Shaw to marry with them and have a double
> > service. They
> > said no, wishing to do it instead in Anguilla. Scott/Masry
> > claim this
> > also proves, that while Shaw had the chance to marry
> > Scott, she
> > didn't
> > and was single and never married to him.
>
> > Basically, Shaw doesn't have a chance in Hell of proving
> > her side of
> > the case, that she was married with Scott. To fight the
> > case, Scott's
> > attorney, Masry, encloses document after document proving
> > Shaw is
> > single, never married to Scott. These documents are
> > rereveling in-so-
> > as
>
> > they tell the origins of Shaw, and trace her income,
> > duties with
> > Scott,
>
> > etc...
>
> > end part 1
>
> > PART 2
>
> > The Origins of Christine Shaw.

>
> > Shaw seems to have first appeared on the scene as a
> > secretary for
> > Masry
>
> > in 1980. She was hired by him as Dr. Scott's driver and
> > secretary.
> > Why
> > Shaw thought she was married to Scott in 1980 is unclear.
>
> > However,
>
> > A Mark Travis, who worked for Scott from 80's to the
> > present as an
> > aide
>
> > to Scott, claims to have met Shaw when he was prodcuing
> > "Richard
> > Pryolr
>
> > Live In Concert" in 12/79. Another producer for RP Live In
> > Concet,
> > Bill
>
> > Sargen, introduced Travis to arttracte "bunny" girl from
> > Playboy
> > Enterprises and this was Cristine Shaw. Travis also
> > introduces Scott
> > to
>
> > Shaw in late 70's/early80's.
>
> > Shaw has one son Christian M. Shaw from a previous marrage
> > to David
> > C.
> > Shaw. In the Shaw vs. Scott case son Christian gave a
> > depostion
> > against her mother and in favor of Scott. Mother and son
> > seem not to
> > get along, even tho Christian works , at the time, in some
> > form or
> > antoher for Scott as did Shaw. In 1993 Shaw, with Masry
> > and Scott
> > lurking over her, Shaw made up a Last Will and Testament
> > while at one
> > of Scott's properties authoring Scott as the execuor of
> > her wil if
> > something should happen to her, and if he couldn't, the
> > "president of
> > the Wescott Christian Center would be executor."
> > Strangely, in her
> > will, Shaw left 1.00 dollar to her son Christian. "I have
> > carefully
> > considered this gift to Christian Shaw, and have
> > determined that he
> > should be forever precluded from receiving, sharing and/or
> > participating in the asssets of my estate, other than the
> > aforemetioned
>
> > $1.00."
>
> > Everything was to be left to Scott or Wescott.
>
> > Lawyer for Christine Shaw was both Cary W. Goldstein,
> > Beverly Hills,
> > 310/273-7777 and Darrel Johnson. First by Johnson who she
> > agreed to
> > pay
>
> > in installments then stopped paying him and got Goldstein.
> > Johnson
> > sued
>
> > Shaw for not paying him, which is a whole nother Oprah.
> > Regardless,
> > Both Scott and Shaw (probably just Scott, actually) wanted
> > to come to
> > some kind of settlement over their relationship quietly
> > and outside
> > of
> > the courts.
> > Scott claimed that Shaw made a threat to "take it public"
> > but it was
> > seattled between the two, at first.
>
> > In the case documents any kind of figure suce as Scott's
> > income or
> > how
> > much Scott was to be paying Shaw every month is blacked
> > out with a
> > black marker. ANY kind of money figure concerning Scott is
> > blacked
> > out.
>
> > Any where that Shaw identifys herself as a single person,
> > not
> > married,
> > is highlighted. It's hard to learn anything about Scott's
> > personal
> > finances, for obvious reasons.
>
> > Under the agreement between Shaw and Scott, reached
> > outside of court,
> > Shaw was to get xxx dollars a month for 15 years from
> > Scott . Scott
> > would pay Shaw's attorney Johnson and Johnson would take
> > out his cut
> > and give Shaw the rest. This agreement went ok for 3 years
> > when, in
> > june 1998 Shaw, totally dependant on these checks from
> > Scott, asked
> > for
>
> > a restraining order in preventing Scott from sending check
> > to
> > attorney
> > Johnson. Shaw had stopped paying Johnson and wanted all
> > the checks to
> > herself. Scott refused. Shaw filed her case against him.
>
> > end part 2
>
> > INCOME TAX DOCUMENTS OF CHRISTINE SHAW
>
> > starting in 1979, Shaw started useing accountant Gary
> > Crane, CPA, of
> > Box 89, Oroville, CA, as the person who filed her taxes
> > for her. he
> > is
> > also Faith Center, Inc's accountant.
> > So she started using fatih center's accountant as soon as
> > she meets
> > Masry.
>
> > Christine E. Shaw Single S.S. #573-84-6622
>
> > YEAR OCCUPATION ADDRESS INCOME
>
> > 1979 Secretary Beverly Hills
> > 3,877.00
>
> > 1980 Secretary Beverly Hills
> > 2,658.00
>
> > 1981 secretary beverly hills 20,800.00
>
> > 1982 secretary box 89 Orovilee, ca
> > 20,800.00
>
> > 1983 secretary box 89, oroville 12,300.00
>
> > 1984 secretary box 89, oroville 10,159.00
>
> > 1985 Director box 89, oroville 80,719.00
>
> > 1986 director box 1426, oroville 71,700.00
>
> > 1987 director box 1426, oroville 174,064.00
>
> > 1988 director box 1426, oroville 263,121.00
>
> > 1989 director box 1426, oroville
> > 297,823.00
>
> > 1990 director / interor decorator box 1426, oroville
> > 218,561.00
>
> > 1991 ?
>
> > 1992 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville
> > 272,509.00
>
> > 1993 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville
> > 294,817.00
>
> > 1994 director / interior decorator box 1426, oroville
> > 237,663.00
>
> > 1995 director / interior decorator box 1230, oroville
> > 237,000.00
>
> > 1996 director / interior decorator box 67E91 (sic), LA
> > 213,303.00
>
> > end of submitted tax returns by Masry/Scott in case file.
>
> > end prt 3
>
> > Reply
> > part 4
>
> > MORE INCOME TAX STUFF
>
> > if Shaw and scott broke up over the "tennis pro" affair I
> > don't know
> > why she's still working as a director for him as late as
> > 1996. If ,
> > as
> > Scott claims, she was paying her a monthly agreed upon
> > amount, I
> > don't
> > know why he's also paying her to be a Director/Interior
> > diecorator
> > for
> > him???
>
> > According to these tax records, Shaw never had more then a
> > couple of
> > Hundred dollars in bank accounts over the years $80 here,
> > 150$ here,
> > $75 there, etc.
>
> > Begining in 1987, listed in here Schedule C income and
> > Schedule B
> > (interest and dividend) other monies started appearing:
>
> > 1. Horse winning earnings starting in 1987 and appearing
> > each year
> > between 20-30k a year.
>
> > 2. Starting in 1992 she was paid 20-30k a year for a
> > "finder's fee
> > for
> > Silver Oaks Ranch." Not sure what she was finding but she
> > was paid
> > well
>
> > for it.
>
> > 3. In Schedule B Income (interesest and divident) begining
> > in 1988
> > she
> > started reporting big earnings 71-150k a year in
> > colllectable stamp
> > assests. She listed the stamp asset income with a Wilshire
> > Stamp and
>
> ...
>
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dawggie, you say johnsmith givers this NG a bad image. howso??

gypsi...@gmail.com

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On Dec 7, 10:30 am, "rpbc" <spicer_17@protected .com> wrote:
> Garadawg wrote:
>
> OK. What you're talking about is when they got back from the
> planned ceremony in Anguilla that went awry. Correct? I
> saw him practically drag Christine into the Cathedral and
> make her sit in the front row. He had been wearing a
> clerical collar every Sunday up until that day. On that day
> it was a plain old dress shirt.
>
> Is that what we're talking about?
>
> rpbc wrote:
>
> I'm getting confused too. I think there a couple of events being talked
> about as one. I remember the one you just referenced with Christine on
> the front row next to Jean Parkin, both leaning away from each other.
> Christine was dressed to the nines, hot and full of attitude, all sexy
> with her legs crossed showing her power. It must have been difficult for
> 'ol Doc that day knowing who had the lasting power over the other, and he
> was playing it as though she would suffer his loss of affection and
> attention. Ten years later he was still attempting to play that card. He
> lost face and the only course available to him was revenge which he sought
> with a passion. I was very close to Christine on that day, close enough
> to observe her every movement and the body language between them was
> palpable. There he was, mister macho... there isn't a man as attractive
> to a woman as one that can walk out that door... at the near end of his
> power game with her. And instead of him walking out that door, she left.
> For a year and a half it seems he openly sulked.... hurt and angry. There
> were a few dates but when he came out it was with a fury and that began the
> parade of pony girls like subjects from the realm paraded before the king
> for his choosing. He made his choice and it was Melissa. His discernment
> chose Melissa.

>
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the story that was spread was that christine was full blown demon
possessed and sought to tear down doc's ministry/church

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