How to recognize an Anti-fur
ferret
were separate species, I thought I'd add one to the list, The Anti-fur.
These beasts are as annoying as moths as they flitter about the fandom
they claim to hate with egos that often inflate like a puffer fish. They
are fairly easy to recognize by their behavior patterns:
They claim to hate furries or the furry fandom as a whole.
They direct their ire in spewing diatribes at the fandom or 'furries' as
though either were a single entity that could react to their jabs.
They use single examples to extrapolate the behavior of everyone
involved in the fandom.
They use out of date examples to try to show how bad the fandom or
furries are. If somebody is using an example of bad behavior more than 3
years old in an argument about problems in the fandom, it's a pretty
good bet you're dealing with an Anti-Fur.
They refuse to offer any sort of suggestions for workable solutions to
the problems they are complaining about even if directly asked. If any
solutions are offered, they are so obviously unrealistic as to be
equivalent to offering nothing at all.
They react extremely badly to having logical holes punched in their
often long winded diatribes. Often their tantrums would make a 3 year
old look calm and restrained.
They resort to insults when they know they've lost in the realm of logic
and reason. Their favorite ones are to shout "Lifestyler!" or
"FIAWOLer!" at those they can't shout into submission as though either
were automatically an evil thing to be.
They tend to disappear for various periods in time when enough others
see through their spurious logic and puncture their large, but fragile
egos. Unfortunately, they are hard to kill entirely and often return for
another round when you least expect them.
In short, they seem to get their joy from the fandom by complaining
about it. That's why they rarely offer any actual possible solutions or
tend to offer completely unrealistic ones. If things got better they'd
have less to complain about and therefor less enjoyment.
There are two ways to deal with an Anti-Fur. You can ignore them
entirely which will cause their egos to go into overload and ultimately
explode in a grand supernova of unintelligible screams or you can shoot
enough holes in them with a logic laser that they shrivel up and go away
for at least a while. While they tend to come back, their longevity is
greatly reduced by each retreat. Eventually they either go away for good
or evolve into a higher and less annoying lifeform.
Disclaimer:
Nobody is specifically named in this post. Anybody who takes personal
offense ought to look at why rather than just reacting. I'll respond to
actual points of discussion, but screams of rage, flames, and tantrums
will simply be ignored.
Dan Skunk
I thought we were over being bothered by that kind of nonsense.
BR
> In the spirit of another who likes to define fandom pests as though they
> were separate species, I thought I'd add one to the list, The Anti-fur.
So if an anti-fur and a posi-fur meet? Will there be annihilation?
Marc
a fandom/group so much, why go to events, subscribe to newsgroups, or
even remotely associate with them?
Just bugger off?
But that would require an ingredient lacking from their view of the
universe; logic.
(This works for anyone who is anti-anything yet still hang out with what
they profess to hate).
CT
If only we were so lucky...
CT >:-)
Dan Skunk
"Marc" <grey...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> What gets me is simple; if you (anti-fur described very well below) hate
> a fandom/group so much, why go to events, subscribe to newsgroups, or
> even remotely associate with them?
>
> Just bugger off?
>
> But that would require an ingredient lacking from their view of the
> universe; logic.
>
> (This works for anyone who is anti-anything yet still hang out with what
> they profess to hate).
>
If you really hate something, you'll want to destroy it, or at least cause
as much damage as you can. You can't do that if you don't hang around it.
Skipai Otter
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process. The most important thing is to improve on oneself and not worry
about which group is doing what? But then when has any done any common
sense these days.
"I don't like the way you do things in your (name of group) but please
follow our rules and join our (group)
My advice... :) Get your own house in order first before trying to talk to
another on how to do stuff. Heh
--
Skipai
ferret
No, usually just a lot of flaming back and forth.
ferret
> What gets me is simple; if you (anti-fur described very well below) hate
> a fandom/group so much, why go to events, subscribe to newsgroups, or
> even remotely associate with them?
>
> Just bugger off?
>
> But that would require an ingredient lacking from their view of the
> universe; logic.
You are correct. They usually make up for in volume what they lack in
logic. As I stated, I think they actually get enjoyment from the
complaining itself. Otherwise they'd simply leave and be done with it.
Dan Skunk
"Skipai Otter" <skipa...@fishbones.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What if this other group of people is a threat to you and your way of life?
You can't just leave them alone and let them slowely undermine and destroy
everything you believe in.
Fear, I believe, is the operative emotion. Fear of what furries might do to
you. Fear of what they might expose about yourself that you want to keep
hidden.
We create beliefs about the world and ourselves and how they work. They're
make the world comfortable and predictable and safe. When someone challenges
those beliefs, they begin to break away at that sense of safety and comfort.
People don't like being scared and uncertain.
FuzzWolf
>
> What if this other group of people is a threat to you and your way of
> life?
> You can't just leave them alone and let them slowely undermine and destroy
> everything you believe in.
>
> Fear, I believe, is the operative emotion. Fear of what furries might do
> to
> you. Fear of what they might expose about yourself that you want to keep
> hidden.
>
> We create beliefs about the world and ourselves and how they work. They're
> make the world comfortable and predictable and safe. When someone
> challenges
> those beliefs, they begin to break away at that sense of safety and
> comfort.
> People don't like being scared and uncertain.
LOL, this is hilarious. I didn't know we furries were so powerful, like
some kind of international criminal gang. :-p
Fuzzy
mouse
> What if this other group of people is a threat to you and your way of
> life? You can't just leave them alone and let them slowely undermine
> and destroy everything you believe in.
Are you on crack, dude?
> We create beliefs about the world and ourselves and how they work.
> They're make the world comfortable and predictable and safe. When
> someone challenges those beliefs, they begin to break away at that
> sense of safety and comfort. People don't like being scared and
> uncertain.
put down the pipe
BR
> LOL, this is hilarious. I didn't know we furries were so powerful, like
> some kind of international criminal gang. :-p
We are furries. Hear us roar!
Lorrie
> On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:24:15 -0500, ferret wrote:
> So if an anti-fur and a posi-fur meet? Will there be annihilation?
No one knows. It's similar to particle pair creation. So long as you
don't look, then the actual particle spin is indeterminate. Once you
establish the spin of one particle, the other one flips to the opposite
spin state.
When the anti-fur comes into proximity to a posi-fur, they change
polarity. Next thing you know, the anti-fur particle is taking
commissions for writing smutty fanfic, posting yiff, and even full on
spooge, to Deviant Art, posting about the best diapers to wear on
babyfur message boards, administrating furry forums, and attending cons
while fitting right in.
mouse
news:186dnSH0JOPc6R3Z...@comcast.com:
[snip]
Are you shit-talking about me, you weasel fuck-face?!?!
Chris Farmer
is evidence of your own problems with being a furry and with certain
elements of the fandom. Like the other post from Xydexx about how the
word "furries" was used, at best, in a neutral manner in certain news
articles as being evidence of furries being "accepted." There's nothing
TO accept; furries haven't been victims to ANYTHING substantial, and
they aren't now and they won't be, ever.
I've never seen a serious enemy or threat to furries. Nothing ill said
of or done to furries has ever threatened the livelihood, let alone
existence of the fandom. Furries aren't downtrodden masses, they're
nerds with a particular interest. That's all.
Trying to give them enemies and detractors doesn't help in any way. It
only gives more an excuse to look for ways to be victimized, which,
clearly, nobody wants, right? "The Anti-Furs are at it again!" There
wouldn't be Anti-Furs if we didn't make them. There wouldn't be victims
if we didn't allow ourselves to be them.
There's no good reason for this thread. There's no good reason for this
attitude. Seriously, cheer up, stop looking for reasons to be mad and
to be sad. This is ridiculous.
Lorrie
Chris Farmer wrote:
> Trying to give them enemies and detractors doesn't help in any way. It
> only gives more an excuse to look for ways to be victimized, which,
> clearly, nobody wants, right? "The Anti-Furs are at it again!" There
> wouldn't be Anti-Furs if we didn't make them. There wouldn't be victims
> if we didn't allow ourselves to be them.
>
> There's no good reason for this thread. There's no good reason for this
> attitude. Seriously, cheer up, stop looking for reasons to be mad and
> to be sad. This is ridiculous.
Sure there is: it adds spice to Usenet. :-D
Allen Kitchen
> There's no good reason for this thread. There's no good reason for this
> attitude. Seriously, cheer up, stop looking for reasons to be mad and
> to be sad. This is ridiculous.
>
It's called discussion. If you don't care for the topic, then don't
reply to it. And you've been here long enough to recognize a _real_
flamewar - this doesn't even count as the striking of a match.
Allen Kitchen (shockwave)
Dan Skunk
"BR" <brodr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I don't think we're really a threat to anyone, but those that are against us
believe we're doing something wrong and there's no reason for them to fight
us if they don't think we're a threat to anyone.
We've got a few people scared.
BR
It's luminous paint.
Chris Farmer
> It's called discussion. If you don't care for the topic, then don't
> reply to it. And you've been here long enough to recognize a _real_
> flamewar - this doesn't even count as the striking of a match.
>
What's to discuss? All I've read is a lot of back-patting and "Oh yes,
I know people just like this!" What could possibly blossom out of this
other than a fake entity to dump home-grown animosity on?
Kyle L. Webb
> "Marc" <grey...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>But that would require an ingredient lacking from their view of the
>>universe; logic.
>>
>>(This works for anyone who is anti-anything yet still hang out with what
>>they profess to hate).
>>
>
> There's logic in it, actually.
>
> If you really hate something, you'll want to destroy it, or at least cause
> as much damage as you can. You can't do that if you don't hang around it.
>
There's even more of a logic than that.
Much of the over the top "OMG. <insert fandom> are ruining everything"
has much more to do with the person saying it than the group it's said
about.
A good solid item to be righteously indignant about is very emotionally
valuable for some people trying desperately to define themselves.
Example: Can you imagine Mike Hirtes with nothing to be angry about?
What would be left?
Kyle Webb
Hartree Fox
ferret
> I can't help but feel you're making a straw man to attack here and this
> is evidence of your own problems with being a furry and with certain
> elements of the fandom.
I'm not actually attacking anybody in particular. The elements have
problems with are those who whine and bitch about problems in the fandom
(legitimate or not), but won't actually do anything other than whine and
complain because that's what they seem to enjoy the most.
> Trying to give them enemies and detractors doesn't help in any way. It
> only gives more an excuse to look for ways to be victimized, which,
> clearly, nobody wants, right? "The Anti-Furs are at it again!" There
> wouldn't be Anti-Furs if we didn't make them. There wouldn't be victims
> if we didn't allow ourselves to be them.
I don't know about being a victim. Anti-furs are more annoying than
anything else since they never actually do anything other than bitch.
> There's no good reason for this thread. There's no good reason for this
> attitude. Seriously, cheer up, stop looking for reasons to be mad and
> to be sad. This is ridiculous.
There's no good reason for most threads