confessions of a furry toonophile
D.M. Quozl Falk
: In the thread "POLL: Best Cartoon w/ furries?", I glowingly described my
: attraction to the characters in the film "Bambi". I was a bit surprised
: that some here expressed, shall we say, "discomfort" with the idea that
: innocent furriness can titillate. This reaction has puzzled me, because
: I've just assumed there were many among us who have an erotic attraction
: to storybook and cartoon animals ("furry toonophilia").
Actually, there's toonophilia and anthropomorphophilia (furryphilia),
similar but a bit different...
I can claim being both a toonophile and a furryphile- The former is
unquestionably represented by my own writings and my toonsex FTP site...
Also, there's alt.tv.tiny-toon.fandom, were toonsex is the norm, and not
just the Tiny Toons, either.... (Added here, BTW...)
: Now, I'm wondering: are toonophiles a minority here, or perhaps, am I a
: minority of one? That can't be, because *everything* we now think of as
: "furry" had their origins with the fantasy animals of fables, legends,
: and storybooks. Storybook animal illos are the ancestors of all furry
: art, and the characters we now call "toons" are their direct descendants.
: That being so, I think most furries are toonophiles to some extent. It's
: just that a few of us love toons in a very special, tender way...
I know there's quite a few that will readily admit to it, and others who
think such feelings are perverted...
: Let me tell you a little about my personal expression of toonophilia.
: I'm 41 now, a "born furry", and as far back as I can remember, I've been
: powerfully attracted to fantasy animal imagery (hey, by now, I *know*
: it's not "just a phase"! ;)
I am much the same way, though I'm only 30...
: When other kids were leering over Playboys,
: I was immersed in old English storybooks, LUSH with anthropomorphic art.
At about that time in my life, I was more interested in humans, not fully
realising my furryness, except for Easter-bunny fantasies that *were*
erotic... And then came the Captain Carrot comics! Before that, I wasn't
quite as immersed in furryness as you were, but I had Easter bunnies,
Snoopy, the WB toons, Pink Panther, M'Ress from the animated Star Trek,
ShirtTails and other mid-late-70's SatAM cartoons... But nothing quite as
erotic as the Easter bunny fantasies I've had since I was 10... Until
Albedo.... During the mid-late 80's, furry was a main part of my interest
in terms of both animation and comics, but mixed in with other
small-press "alternative" (or even less so) comics... By about 1990,
furry occupied almost all my character-based interests. The Easter bunny
fantasies were replaced by 6-foot anthro cats (after Albedo), squirrels,
mice, and skunks.... (And lately, I've has a series of dreams where I
traded my human body for that of a female skunkmorph, with full memory
and personality intact... Others had been having furry harems, mixed
species...)
: I couldn't help what happened when I gazed so fondly at those pictures,
: or when I watched my favorite cartoons. When I got aroused, I wasn't
: thinking about having sex with the creatures I was looking at; I didn't
: even know what sex was. These furry stirrings started half a decade
: before I hit puberty, so I have difficulty thinking of my desires as
: carnal, either then or now. It must be admitted that, of all things
: possible to the perverse mind of man, boinking over watching a happy,
: prancing toon bunny is about as innocent a fetish as can be imagined...
Some say otherwise, as it's considered "perversion of innocent cartoon
characters"--- My ass! With characters like Bugs Bunny, Pepe le Pew, Babs
bunny (and her gratuitous skirt peeks!) and Fifi la Fume, *amongst
others*, it's hard *not* to find some measure of sexuality in many
cartoon characters!
: <chuckle> Here's how my mind works. Wanna know what's *the* hottest
: image I've found so far in Furrydom? No, actually, I have to say, he's
: The-Sexiest-Thing-I've-Ever-Seen, period! It's Rocket Rabbit, pictured
: on the cover of Boudoir #5. <pulls at steaming collar> Oh, truly, that
: drawing of Rocky - fully clothed and *radiantly* moral - is almost too
: sexy for my mind to contain. His bright-eyed face, that shock of black
: fur on his forehead, his big toon bunny feet, his flared bunny tail...
: wow, I get warm and tingly all over just describing him! And the illo
: of Rocky with the blaster being pointed at his furry chest - oh my! His
: pose, with that simple, smooth, curved line betwixt his legs, sends my
: senses reeling like no anatomically-correct furrymorph ever could.
For me, it's David Bliss' Chimi (mouse), Eric W. Schwartz's Amy & Sabrina
(and the occaisional mousegirl), Joe Rosales' Musty (mink) & his various
skunkgirls and some others furrygirls), Many of Michele Light's
skunkettes, mice, bunnies, and squirrels, Steve Gallacci's Beatrix
Farmer, Taral Wayne's skunks, mice, and bunnies... Sean Wilkenson's
furrygirls... Oh, you get the idea... :)
And who COULDN'T drool over the cover of Wild Life #8 (as well as #1)...
Let's face it: sex sells... And I'd still love to see posters of the
above two... :)
: So, these are the confessions of a furry toonophile. Our furversion may
: be less graphic and spoogey than others', but vive le difference, non?
Well, who could deny there is something going on sexually in the
Springtime scene in "Bambi"?
....Quozl!
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Lenester the Badger
>Now, I'm wondering: are toonophiles a minority here, or perhaps, am I a
>minority of one? That can't be, because *everything* we now think of as
>"furry" had their origins with the fantasy animals of fables, legends,
>and storybooks. Storybook animal illos are the ancestors of all furry
>art, and the characters we now call "toons" are their direct descendants.
>That being so, I think most furries are toonophiles to some extent. It's
>just that a few of us love toons in a very special, tender way...
>Let me tell you a little about my personal expression of toonophilia.
<SNIP>
>So, these are the confessions of a furry toonophile. Our furversion may
>be less graphic and spoogey than others', but vive le difference, non?
Hey, I'm a toonophile to the core, for various reasons. And, while I didn't
personally have the same reaction to Bambi that you did <grin>, I understood
it. My toonophilia actually originated as an appreciation of the wit and
irony present in many of the better cartoons; characters like Fifi la Flume
and Rebecca Cunningham were an added attraction, of course, and I'm glad
they're there; however, without the quality humor, the shows are extremely
boring. Yes, what I usually remember and talk about is that pose Minerva
struck, but what caused me to watch the show was that line Slappy delivered.
Anyway, that's my two cents. It wound up having very little to do with what
Lontra said, but what the hey. :>
Lenester the Badger
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SiberTiger
>minority of one? That can't be, because *everything* we now think of as
toonophile until early this summer, when I was wandering the web, and found a
little known site with a character on it named Minerva Mink. I fell in love
instantly. She was blatantly sexual, and absolutle goregeous. I think I had my
main crush on her until I saw "Moon over minerva." And then her personality
scared me off.
That's when I re-discovered a cartoon that I used to watch and love.
Tiny Toon Adventures. And the one character in there that fell in love with,
and to this day have not stopped, Fifi La Fume. Her personality was just
right, and her situation was just like my own. So much so that I became a
hardcore Pepe Le Pew fan, because me and him share alot in common.
It wasn't up until the end of the summer that I even knew what a furry
was. But when i finally found some fan art done by Ken Cougar, I knew I was at
home.
In the same sense as you, I was never really into the mags at a time
when most boys are. I didn't even really care. And I found out why many years
later, as I discovered 'toons again.
Now, I've even changed hobbies...I'm a practicing WB-style animator.
Why WB-Style? You figure it out for yourself. ;) And over 3/4 of the stuff I
have is either Minerva Mink or Fifi La Fume. I've got a few original
creations, but nothing that I can compare to Fifi. I just love her to death.
I've had those dreams before. The ones where you meet the toon you
have a crush on. I've even been married to her in my dreams before.
Well...that's my ramblings. You're in NO way by yourself here.
-Sibertiger
(aka Brisco on FM.)
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> In the thread "POLL: Best Cartoon w/ furries?", I glowingly described my
> attraction to the characters in the film "Bambi". I was a bit surprised
> that some here expressed, shall we say, "discomfort" with the idea that
> innocent furriness can titillate. This reaction has puzzled me, because
> I've just assumed there were many among us who have an erotic attraction
> to storybook and cartoon animals ("furry toonophilia").
Hmm... I guess you can count me in too, though I probably wouldn't
quite classify my reaction as "erotic" -- though that's another of
those variable intensity words...
> <chuckle> Here's how my mind works. Wanna know what's *the* hottest
> image I've found so far in Furrydom? No, actually, I have to say, he's
> The-Sexiest-Thing-I've-Ever-Seen, period! It's Rocket Rabbit, pictured
> on the cover of Boudoir #5. <pulls at steaming collar> Oh, truly, that
> drawing of Rocky - fully clothed and *radiantly* moral - is almost too
> sexy for my mind to contain. His bright-eyed face, that shock of black
> fur on his forehead, his big toon bunny feet, his flared bunny tail...
> wow, I get warm and tingly all over just describing him! And the illo
> of Rocky with the blaster being pointed at his furry chest - oh my! His
> pose, with that simple, smooth, curved line betwixt his legs, sends my
> senses reeling like no anatomically-correct furrymorph ever could.
Interesting little quirk of mine here. I mainly function with an
auditory representational system (which for those of you not Anthony
Robbins fans means I'm more impacted by sounds than sights or tactile
senses). When I react "emotionally" (for lack of a more specific word)
to a 'toon character it is almost always the result of the timbre and
quality of the voice rather than the physical representation.
For example, Minerva Mink does absolutely nothing for me (though I do,
of course understand why she would to a visual RS), but I was
tremendously impressed by "Sunni" (sp?), the teenage female in
_Disney's Gummibears_. I've since forgotten the voice-artists name,
but she appeared again on _Rescue Rangers_ doing the voice of a bat
named "Foxglove" -- same reaction.
I've also had similar reactions to "Vixey" from _Fox and The Hound_
(Sandy Duncan), and especially "Rita" of _Rita and Runt_ fame (the
tremendously furry Burnadette Peters). There are, of course, others;
but no need to further elaborate, I think.
Go figure, eh? ;-) Actually, this carries over into humans and RL too,
for example I never could understand the attraction to Loni Anderson,
but Erin Grey...
> So, these are the confessions of a furry toonophile. Our furversion may
> be less graphic and spoogey than others', but vive le difference, non?
Indeed! Or, as a friend has put it "Wouldn't the world be a dreadful
place if all the birds were one color?"
Brer Foxxe (je...@capecod.net)
Richard Chandler
I think the problem here is that SOMEBODY is not understanding that not
all reactions to beauty are necessarily sexual.
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>Also, there's alt.tv.tiny-toon.fandom, were toonsex is the norm
_Was_. The closest one can get to a toon's pants now are 'legal briefs'.
*bandwidth offering*
>Some say otherwise, as it's considered "perversion of innocent cartoon
>characters"--- My ass! With characters like Bugs Bunny, Pepe le Pew, Babs
>bunny (and her gratuitous skirt peeks!) and Fifi la Fume, *amongst
>others*, it's hard *not* to find some measure of sexuality in many
>cartoon characters!
Nils forbid you should notice it!
D.M. Quozl Falk
: I think the problem here is that SOMEBODY is not understanding that not
: all reactions to beauty are necessarily sexual.
That depends on what one would consider "sexual". Sexuality is as much a
state of mind as it is a state of libido, and what one person finds
attractive, another may not.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
'Wilford Wolf' Bryan Chaney
feed doesn't carry....
On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Lontra wrote:
> In the thread "POLL: Best Cartoon w/ furries?", I glowingly described my
> attraction to the characters in the film "Bambi". I was a bit surprised
> that some here expressed, shall we say, "discomfort" with the idea that
> innocent furriness can titillate. This reaction has puzzled me, because
> I've just assumed there were many among us who have an erotic attraction
> to storybook and cartoon animals ("furry toonophilia").
>
> Now, I'm wondering: are toonophiles a minority here, or perhaps, am I a
> minority of one?
Hardly. Toonophiles and toon furries are the minority, but there
certainly others. Oddly, some within the furry community find toon
furries somehow strange. *shrug* It's just that the attraction, for me
at least of being both a furry *and* a toon are equally strong.
That can't be, because *everything* we now think of as
> "furry" had their origins with the fantasy animals of fables, legends,
> and storybooks. Storybook animal illos are the ancestors of all furry
> art, and the characters we now call "toons" are their direct descendants.
> That being so, I think most furries are toonophiles to some extent. It's
> just that a few of us love toons in a very special, tender way...
As Quozl pointed out in the other post, there is discussion of this in
alt.tv.tiny-toon.fandom (and I would suspect, to some extent also in
rec.arts.anime.fandom, but you know fanboy and those cute anime
girls...I'd prefurr a cute anime cat girl ]:o}) Most of discussion
centers around WB toons, with some sliding into Simpsons and Disney toons.
[snip]
> <chuckle> Here's how my mind works. Wanna know what's *the* hottest
> image I've found so far in Furrydom? No, actually, I have to say, he's
> The-Sexiest-Thing-I've-Ever-Seen, period! It's Rocket Rabbit, pictured
> on the cover of Boudoir #5. <pulls at steaming collar> Oh, truly, that
> drawing of Rocky - fully clothed and *radiantly* moral - is almost too
> sexy for my mind to contain. His bright-eyed face, that shock of black
> fur on his forehead, his big toon bunny feet, his flared bunny tail...
> wow, I get warm and tingly all over just describing him! And the illo
> of Rocky with the blaster being pointed at his furry chest - oh my! His
> pose, with that simple, smooth, curved line betwixt his legs, sends my
> senses reeling like no anatomically-correct furrymorph ever could.
Some of the sexiest imagery I've ever seen has is one particular shot of
Rita in "Home on De-Nile". She looks positively sultry. ]:o}~~~~ There is
the Winger Minerva pictures, of course....
> So, these are the confessions of a furry toonophile. Our furversion may
> be less graphic and spoogey than others', but vive le difference, non?
While personal like some spooge, I much prefurr other furry art,
especially toon furry art. Probably because much of what I have is on a
personal level, the people I know toonified, to me just makes it that much
more special.
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reason romance novels are so popular.) Attraction to furries is not uncommon either.
Sometimes, the furry is intentionally drawn or written to be attractive (like Minerva Mink,
or Pepe LePew), and sometimes it is the innocence of the character that is attractive (like
Thumper). Furry fans tend to be much more open minded than others, which may account for
some of it.
I still have strong feelings for Gadget, and even sometimes feel jealous of Chip and Dale.
I recently read a story posted on the 'net in which Gadget dies in a plane crash. I
couldn't sleep that night, and had nightmares about it for days afterwords.
[This is my first post to a newsgroup, and I hope it works.]
Fly the FURendly skies! :)
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Colin Palmer
> I've just assumed there were many among us who have an erotic attraction
> to storybook and cartoon animals ("furry toonophilia").
There are probably a number of furries who are, just as there are some
who aren't.
> Now, I'm wondering: are toonophiles a minority here, or perhaps, am I a
> minority of one? That can't be, because *everything* we now think of as
> "furry" had their origins with the fantasy animals of fables, legends,
> and storybooks. Storybook animal illos are the ancestors of all furry
> art, and the characters we now call "toons" are their direct descendants.
> That being so, I think most furries are toonophiles to some extent. It's
> just that a few of us love toons in a very special, tender way...
Well I'm a definate "toonophile" myself (although I've never had a word
for it until now), so I agree with your points here.
> even know what sex was. These furry stirrings started half a decade
> before I hit puberty, so I have difficulty thinking of my desires as
> carnal, either then or now. It must be admitted that, of all things
> possible to the perverse mind of man, boinking over watching a happy,
> prancing toon bunny is about as innocent a fetish as can be imagined...
Innocent? If only I could convince some of my friends that...
> wow, I get warm and tingly all over just describing him! And the illo
> of Rocky with the blaster being pointed at his furry chest - oh my! His
> pose, with that simple, smooth, curved line betwixt his legs, sends my
> senses reeling like no anatomically-correct furrymorph ever could.
I haven't seen the pics, but your description just about has me agreeing
with you anyway.
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Dr. Cat
: I think the problem here is that SOMEBODY is not understanding that not
: all reactions to beauty are necessarily sexual.
Of course, that is only a problem in a society where non-sexual
appreciation of something is considered "better" than sexual appreciation
in some way. A society that wants to pigeonhole reactions as "sexual or
non-sexual" and deny the reality that people's feelings often contain
elements of both. The combination being especially confusing to those
who want to judge one extreme bad and the other good - how do you label
feelings that are somewhere in the middle?
People are also often uneasy about the association of sexuality and
symbols of "innocence", like cartoons and stuffed animals. Because we
have a deep emotional association between "innocence" and "children", and
there's a powerful desire to protect children from having sex before
they're ready for it. We have a strong instinct to "protect innocence".
That's fine, but extending that protection to cartoons and stuffed
animals isn't necessary, they need no protection. Imaginary characters
don't get traumatized by things that their fans do. :X)
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: In the thread "POLL: Best Cartoon w/ furries?", I glowingly described my
: attraction to the characters in the film "Bambi". I was a bit surprised
: that some here expressed, shall we say, "discomfort" with the idea that
: innocent furriness can titillate. This reaction has puzzled me, because
: to storybook and cartoon animals ("furry toonophilia").
Some of my earliest erotic fantasies involved the 'Bambi' characters. Even
when I was too young to know why, I liked Bambi and Flower in a different way
than I liked other cartoon characters. For the longest time, I thought that I
must be, if not unique, at least extremely rare. Now that I'm older, I know
better :) I wonder how many of today's little kids like Simba or Nala in a
way they find hard to explain :)
My advice is don't worry about it - you're certainly not going to hurt anyone
by dreaming about @boinking Bambi. I'd go so far as to suggest that the
people who are made uncomfortable by the idea need to carefully examine the
concept, and try to discover just _why_ it makes them nervous. Certainly it's
a deviant idea, but so are many, if not most, erotic fantasies. One tends to
fantasize about things one can't actually have, after all.
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Captain Packrat <captp...@sisna.com> wrote:
>Physical attraction to fictitious characters is a very common occurance
(which is one
>reason romance novels are so popular.) Attraction to furries is not uncommon
either.
>Sometimes, the furry is intentionally drawn or written to be attractive (like
Minerva Mink,
>or Pepe LePew), and sometimes it is the innocence of the character that is
attractive (like
>Thumper). Furry fans tend to be much more open minded than others, which may
account for
>some of it.
Innocence? I wonder. Why do you suppose he does that with his hind feet?
Still, most people are presumably attracted to human fictitious characters
(that is, our own species). Sometimes nature makes a mistake, and you end up
with an attraction to pointy ears, or bushy tails, or striped fur instead.
Some of the attraction of toons in particular may be the exaggeration of
certain human features, like eyes 8). I like more naturalistic furries rather
than toons, but big eyes are a definite plus. (My personal ideal is a cute
furry female brown elf-mouse with a mouse tail, claws, ears, and whiskers, but
with big, wide, expressive green elf-eyes and the personality and intelligence
of Richard Feynman.) So I can understand why toons are popular, with their
eyes. But why are tails so important, since we haven't had them for millions
of years? Probably the same reason, as an expression of personality.
Squirrels (real-life squirrels) certainly seem to use their tails for
expressive purposes, though I don't understand their meaning.
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Major Matt Mason
toonophile:
lm> feeling" for as a kid. She was a car! - Susie The Little Blue Coupe
lm> from the Disney cartoon of the same name. Susie was so sweeeet!
lm> *beep!* *beep!*
(I will NOT make an 'autoerotica' joke...I will NOT make an 'autoerotica'
joke...I will NOT make an 'autoerotica' joke...I will NOT make an 'autoerotica'
joke...)
(The Major wanders off, sobbing quietly to himself)
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Marshall Anthony Woods
: On 3/27/96, lon...@netcom.com said to All concerning Re: confessions of a furry
: toonophile:
:
: lm> feeling" for as a kid. She was a car! - Susie The Little Blue Coupe
: lm> from the Disney cartoon of the same name. Susie was so sweeeet!
: lm> *beep!* *beep!*
You know, in my lab I've got a couple of cartoon animals pinned up, as well
as a picture of Vicky Rabbit. A few of my colleagues know how I feel about
them, most (I think) just know that I 'like' cartoons. However, when I go
through the machine shop at work (we're a large rubber company, with attached
machine works) I've noticed that one fellow has large numbers of automobile
pictures on his locker. Now, I didn't think anything about it at first -
autos seem like something a machinist would naturally admire. I've noticed
over time, though, that all the machines in his pictures have certain traits
in common, such as color schemes (purple and white), and design elements of
the body style (hood scoops, wheelcovers). It makes me wonder...
Jim Groat
Major.Ma...@p1.f952.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Major Matt Mason) wrote:
:>On 3/27/96, lon...@netcom.com said to All concerning Re: confessions of
a furry
:>toonophile:
:>
:> lm> feeling" for as a kid. She was a car! - Susie The Little Blue Coupe
:> lm> from the Disney cartoon of the same name. Susie was so sweeeet!
:> lm> *beep!* *beep!*
:>
:>(I will NOT make an 'autoerotica' joke...I will NOT make an 'autoerotica'
:>joke...I will NOT make an 'autoerotica' joke...I will NOT make an
'autoerotica'
:>joke...)>
:>(The Major wanders off, sobbing quietly to himself)
Personally I find 27-36 Duesenburgs highly erotic,the 47 Tucker Torpedo a
rolling wet dream, 38 Cords sexually exciting and 41-45 GPW's an orgasmic
experience.And shoot my wad over 26-36 Pierce Arrows.
(Jim now heads to the bathroom with a copy of 'The Robb Report'.)
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