Catch E.R. Tonight?
Mephit, Floyd
it's still on here). Two guys got into a fight at a con (wasn't it a con?),
both wearing fursuits (kangaroo and opossom). They referred to themselves
as 'furries'. I wonder how many "what the hell?"s were collectively blurted
out in that moment.. The nurse knew what that meant (sorta) and explained
that as someone who dresses up in animal costumes. Apparently 'scritching'
turned into molestation. And just now a tender explanation from the
kangaroo to Dr. Weaver; and wouldn't you know it, she just walked in on the
opossom guy masturbating with the 'pawpet' that a patient gave her. (of
course). I wonder why this subject was brought on the show (and especially
why it was given as much airtime as it was). I hardly ever post but I was
just too suprised not to mention it. I imagine that I don't even have to
give my opinion, it should be obvious (and shared, I hope).
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Sarenthalanos
Mephit, Floyd <floyd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I assume I'm not the only one who watched e.r. tonight on NBC. (actually,
> it's still on here). Two guys got into a fight at a con (wasn't it a
con?),
> both wearing fursuits (kangaroo and opossom). They referred to themselves
> as 'furries'. I wonder how many "what the hell?"s were collectively
blurted
> out in that moment.. The nurse knew what that meant (sorta) and explained
> that as someone who dresses up in animal costumes. Apparently
'scritching'
> turned into molestation. And just now a tender explanation from the
> kangaroo to Dr. Weaver; and wouldn't you know it, she just walked in on
the
> opossom guy masturbating with the 'pawpet' that a patient gave her. (of
> course). I wonder why this subject was brought on the show (and especially
> why it was given as much airtime as it was). I hardly ever post but I was
> just too suprised not to mention it. I imagine that I don't even have to
> give my opinion, it should be obvious (and shared, I hope).
http://www.nbci.com/LMOID/bb/fd/0,946,-0-2176,00.html?shc.nbci.0.er.2176
5/3/01
FEAR OF COMMITMENT
Due to a clerical error, a startled Abby discovers that her suicidal mother
(Oscar-winning guest star Sally Field) is due in court for a competency
hearing and she rushes to testify that she should not be released -- but the
older woman musters an alarmingly masterful display of sanity before the
judge. Meanwhile, Dr. Weaver gives heartbreaking news to a sassy homeless
woman who once hosted a children's show that Weaver viewed as a child. Dr.
Benton steps in to help a junior high school teacher who was once his mentor
and now suffers a cardiac arrest. A busy Benton also injures his hand while
helping a fallen biker and learns that an injured Carla has checked into the
ER with his young son Reese.
TV-PG
=================
Interesting plot twist. One of the most notable all year, from the looks.
Perhaps I should start watching that show. Anyone else witness this
remarkable episode?
-Sar
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Hollie
<sarent...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Interesting plot twist. One of the most notable all year, from the looks.
>Perhaps I should start watching that show. Anyone else witness this
>remarkable episode?
>
>-Sar
Sure did! I thought it was a very funny comic relief to an otherwise
intense episode.
BTW, are you the same Sar who posts on LKF and Lukaholics Anonymous?
aki.
(sneaux miaoux and Goran Visnjic/Luka Kovac fan)
AfterFox
full of shit that a writer pulled off from all the bad press furries have been
getting.
I for one, definately am not "pleased" with the way furries were portrayed right
there.
AfterFox
Sarenthalanos
Hollie <mal...@IDONTLIKESPAM.concentric.net> wrote in message
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>
> Sure did! I thought it was a very funny comic relief to an otherwise
> intense episode.
>
Hmmm, I'll have to give it a look. It's on in a half-hour here.
> BTW, are you the same Sar who posts on LKF and Lukaholics Anonymous?
>
> aki.
> (sneaux miaoux and Goran Visnjic/Luka Kovac fan)
Can't say that I am.
-Sar
Joe Strike
types read the magazine, & we could shortly expect some sitcom family's wacky
neighbor or relative to show up walking around in a fursuit for a cheap laff or
two. Guess I was wrong - it happened on 'E.R.' & not on a sitcom. (Thanks a lot,
VF.) Sorry I missed the episode, though (one of countless dozens of series I
never watch - gives me more time to read aff) - it would've been interesting to
see just how wrong they got it.
Here's the brilliant suggestion - how about some LA-based fur volunteering to
become a 'technical advisor' to film or TV shows that want to feature furry
themes/story lines? You know, the same way they get a professional person
(doctor, lawyer, cop) or special interest group (gays, ethnic minorities, Native
Americans etc) to advise them when they feature those kind of characters in
their productions. At least this way we could avoid people just cribbing
inaccurately from an inaccurate magazine article they happened to read.
-J
Rebecca Gallant
There are those that appreciate the genre as a part of sci-fi/fantasy and those
who make it a lifestyle.
I thought they did their research rather well and was even surprised that they
even made an effort to distinguish that there is a difference.
Hell, I was just surprised to see it portrayed in a main stream show at all!
I say kudos to the writers.
Well, that's my .02 cents anyway.
-Becky
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AfterFox
I got the chance to see it and it wasn tall that bad.
People I've been talking to have been saying it's absolutely horrible, a tragedy for
furry. I dunno. the roo guy was far more present than the possum and he didnt
really say any bad things or was portrayed in a negative manner.
*shrug* It'll be forgotten later on, I'm sure.
Heh, only bad thing about this is I hafta explain myself to my coworkers *again* ;)
After (nono, it's a hobby, you see...) Fox
Richard Lowman
Mephit, Floyd wrote in message <9ct5u2$iph$1...@raccoon.fur.com>...
>I assume I'm not the only one who watched E.R. tonight on NBC. (actually, it's
still on here).
>Two guys got into a fight at a con (wasn't it a con?), both wearing fursuits
(kangaroo and opossom).
>They referred to themselves as 'furries'. I wonder how many "what the hell?"s
I was about half-asleep at the time, and then came awake fully at the word....
>The nurse knew what that meant (sorta) and explained that as someone who
dresses up in animal costumes. Apparently 'scritching' turned into >molestation.
And just now a tender explanation from the kangaroo to Dr. Weaver; and wouldn't
you know it, she just walked in on the opossom >guy masturbating with the
'pawpet' that a patient gave her. (Of course).
A former kids TV host homeless and dieing of cancer....
Dr. Weaver-"Mr. Wiskers!...."
>I wonder why this subject was brought on the show (and especially why it was
given as much airtime as it was). I hardly ever post but I was just >too
suprised not to mention it. I imagine that I don't even have to give my opinion,
it should be obvious (and shared, I hope).
Yeah, I think that I have a good idea where the idea came from--a magazine
perhaps and because of the fact that the writers had to come up with something
current before going out on strike.
.....and so it goes.
DishRoom1
>I assume I'm not the only one who watched e.r. tonight on NBC. (actually,
>it's still on here). Two guys got into a fight at a con (wasn't it a con?),
>both wearing fursuits (kangaroo and opossom). They referred to themselves
>as 'furries'. I wonder how many "what the hell?"s were collectively blurted
>out in that moment.. The nurse knew what that meant (sorta) and explained
>that as someone who dresses up in animal costumes. Apparently 'scritching'
>turned into molestation. And just now a tender explanation from the
>kangaroo to Dr. Weaver; and wouldn't you know it, she just walked in on the
>opossom guy masturbating with the 'pawpet' that a patient gave her. (of
>course). I wonder why this subject was brought on the show (and especially
>why it was given as much airtime as it was). I hardly ever post but I was
>just too suprised not to mention it. I imagine that I don't even have to
>give my opinion, it should be obvious (and shared, I hope).
>
I'm not a big fan of "ER", so I didn't watch the episode in question. (I was
watching "Primetime Live" on ABC, opposite of NBC, instead.) So I didn't see
for myself how "ER" depicted furries. Therefore I have no opinion. If the show
portrayed us in a negative light, we can write to NBC and the "ER" producers
mail explaining more about our fandom.
John Shughart
DishRoom1
>Personally, I thought it portrayed both sides of the issue rather well.
>
>There are those that appreciate the genre as a part of sci-fi/fantasy and
>those
>who make it a lifestyle.
>I thought they did their research rather well and was even surprised that
>they
>even made an effort to distinguish that there is a difference.
>
>Hell, I was just surprised to see it portrayed in a main stream show at all!
>
Hey, Rebecca. :x) I hope that the "ER" episode went as you said, because I
didn't ever watch it that night.
Would you please explain a bit about what you watched for me?
John Shughart
Marc Fuller
>
[snip]
>
> Here's the brilliant suggestion - how about some LA-based fur volunteering to
> become a 'technical advisor' to film or TV shows that want to feature furry
> themes/story lines? You know, the same way they get a professional person
> (doctor, lawyer, cop) or special interest group (gays, ethnic minorities, Native
> Americans etc) to advise them when they feature those kind of characters in
> their productions. At least this way we could avoid people just cribbing
> inaccurately from an inaccurate magazine article they happened to read.
> -J
>
I don't think it would work. In the case of professionals, the writers
care about technical accuracy, and the genuine ethnic groups are large
enough and organized enough to be a legal pain in a libel/slander suit.
Furries fall in the same category as sci-fi fans, at best, as far as the
writers are concerned. I.e, a generally defined but non-cohesive bunch of
goof-balls and freaks that they can write in as anything from comic relief
to "example of citizen gone tragically wrong."
Marc Fuller
Akai
>
> I assume I'm not the only one who watched e.r. tonight on NBC.
<kersnippen>
I'm on the west coast here so I just finished watching the episode about
a half hour ago. Never watched the show before but found it generally
entertaining.
The treatment of the fursuiters came across to me as being on the same
level of any other fetish, a better known one being costume-wearing
sci-fi fans. No better, no worse. Something odd to lighten up the tone
of the episode in contrast to some of the more serious bits. Whoever
wrote the episode knows the terminology well enough although it appears
no research was done beyond reading the Vanity Fair article (or
something similar). One who has never heard of "furries" before may be
led to belive that the hobby is all about fursuiting but at least there
was nothing presented to cause a panic either.
Personally I'd be more concerned if one of the news magazine shows like
"60 Minutes" or "Dateline" decided to do an expose.
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this (Ikea commercial, TV, "Meet the parents, etc). Do people riot due
to these "horrible displays of independence"? No, of course not. Why? As
people in today's society are far too stressed about the big problems in
their everyday lives than to worry about what goes on behind closed
doors. Tolerance is a slow growing thing indeed... but everything is
accepted eventually. All it takes is time.
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Marc Fuller
>
> Mephit, Floyd wrote--
>
>
> I'm not a big fan of "ER", so I didn't watch the episode in question. (I was
> watching "Primetime Live" on ABC, opposite of NBC, instead.) So I didn't see
> for myself how "ER" depicted furries. Therefore I have no opinion. If the show
> portrayed us in a negative light, we can write to NBC and the "ER" producers
> mail explaining more about our fandom.
>
> John Shughart
And they'll do the same thing as VF - ignore the umpteen-hundred (or dozen,
or whatever) literate, calm, rational letters, in favor of getting
something juicy out of whatever psycho-nutjob hatemail they get. (And they
will get it from someone.) "Furry fandom" isn't organized enough for them
to care about legally, and isn't large enough for them to care about
alienating politically. The fandom isn't important enough for them to care
about doing accurate research. Since the spooge-meisters and
plushie-humpers are the ones that will get the biggest reaction from the
viewing public, that is how furry will be portrayed. They don't mind
insulting Trekkies, and they're a lot better organized at the moment.
Marc Fuller
Furplay
You see, I own a "ReplayTV" (please forgive the following, since I know
it sounds like a brag when it's not meant to be), of which one of it's
nifty functions is to create a "theme channel" (you type in a keyword,
set the "channel", and the unit will scour it's database (based from the
gist.com TV system) for any and all programs containing that keyword in
the actor/director/show name/show description categories [as well as
search each new listing update once it downloads it from the network
each night] and would set itself to record that show).
Ever since I heard about Mister Duanne's sellout of furry fandom to Mtv,
I've had a "furry" and a "furries" channel standing by to snatch it as
soon as it airs. And so far, it's been quiet on the furry front.
If the media's out to ruin furrydom, they have'nt been advertising it (yet).
[Now when The 700 Club starts doing something on "furries". THAT should
be a weird bit of vid]
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>
> Personally, I thought it portrayed both sides of the issue rather well.
>
> There are those that appreciate the genre as a part of sci-fi/fantasy and those
> who make it a lifestyle.
>
> I thought they did their research rather well and was even surprised that they
> even made an effort to distinguish that there is a difference.
>
> Hell, I was just surprised to see it portrayed in a main stream show at all!
>
> I say kudos to the writers.
>
> Well, that's my .02 cents anyway.
>
> -Becky
I'm just talking total bollocks based on what Mephit wrote, but the hint
that 'scritching" was a lead-up to molestation, and someone having a
wank with a hand puppet (oh, imagine the bloody horror that would ensue
if Darell cought this guy doing THAT at CF).
Um, where's the distinguishing that there is a difference?
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Tara
> Man, I missed it but my friend told me all about it. That sounds like a pile
> full of shit that a writer pulled off from all the bad press furries have been
> getting.
>
> I for one, definately am not "pleased" with the way furries were portrayed right
> there.
>
> A
> fterFox
Hi Afterfoxy! :D
Goodness, isn't that feeding the sterotypes. :/ I've never encountered a
truly insightful and well researched plot.
It's no different than -10 years ago when blacks were portrayed as bank robbers and
hispanics portrayed as drug dealers. +10 years from now furries won't be portrated
as
satan worshippers and child molesters.
But I'm sure some other group will still be sterotyped +20 years from now, it's too
bad writters can't just learn to stop sterotyping. :/
I have a scrip for ER: two writers get send to the ER on fire, everyone watches as
they
burn to death in slo-motion for an hour. ^.^
I'd watch that!
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> Personally, I thought it portrayed both sides of the issue rather well.
>
> There are those that appreciate the genre as a part of sci-fi/fantasy and those
> who make it a lifestyle.
>
> I thought they did their research rather well and was even surprised that they
> even made an effort to distinguish that there is a difference.
>
> Hell, I was just surprised to see it portrayed in a main stream show at all!
>
> I say kudos to the writers.
I don't inject opinion unless I feel my prescription can be an improvement,
in this case it could have. How to get furs into the ER from a con, why not
a stage act on bad or a fur suit catch on fire? Something more creative would
be fine as long as it wasn't so negative, the arguement wasn't all that too much
but I feel the segment was too much portraying `nasty tree-huggers' with very
extreme character.
First rule is to not portray something obscure from mainstream from distant
corners.
Furplay
>
>
> I'm not a big fan of "ER", so I didn't watch the episode in question. (I was
> watching "Primetime Live" on ABC, opposite of NBC, instead.) So I didn't see
> for myself how "ER" depicted furries. Therefore I have no opinion. If the show
> portrayed us in a negative light, we can write to NBC and the "ER" producers
> mail explaining more about our fandom.
>
*sigh* You guys never learn, do you?
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show, and what made it worse was the 'furry' content... or lack thereof.
Well, I guess all who decided to open their muzzles to Vanity Fair got
what they deserved here. Seems like the producers of E.R. had fun
putting this one together after they saw all the plush-screwing,
"weird-sex" supposed 'furs' in Vanity Fair.
I try to stay out of politics because I am very busy and have site
members to take care of, but I do have my opinions at times too. And my
opinion on this is: everyone who took part in the Vanity Fair article,
thanks for nothing...
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Joe Strike
tongue-in-cheek. An organized protest by any established special interest group would
get a lot of press attention & make a studio or network very nervous, whereas if
anyone even noticed a protest by furries, it would be as material for another snide
throwaway gag
Joe Strike
had any idea they were onto something when they wrote that 25+ years ago
Furplay
>
> Don't you remember Monty Python's 'mouse party' sketch? I wonder the Pythons
> had any idea they were onto something when they wrote that 25+ years ago
Eek!
Kimba W. Lion
while you do the important business of blaming other people for your
complaint.
Kimba
magnwa
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> Nashoba
> FurNetwork.net, Owner
>
Some people take themselves far too seriously. IF you want to make a
difference in this world, make a difference. Being tagged a furry won't
stop that.
Sheesh. Grow up, stop fighting over stupid stuff, and make a difference or
sit down and shut up. :)
Magnwa
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Joe Ekaitis wrote:
> "Fur-turama". . .now THAT was pure genius. :)
My wife was watching ER..I was outside tending to my bonsai grove. She come out
to tell me what was going on...all I could think of was "Man...folks will have a
field day on AFF.." I did come in on the guy in the suit "supposedly" yankin'
off with a puppet...I found it more amusing than anything. But you know...they
probably pull those dumb costumes out of some Hollywood backstage vault because no
real died-in-wool fursuiter would wear those ugly things!!
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> Hi Afterfoxy! :D
> Goodness, isn't that feeding the sterotypes. :/ I've never encountered a
> truly insightful and well researched plot.
> It's no different than -10 years ago when blacks were portrayed as bank
> robbers and hispanics portrayed as drug dealers. +10 years from now
> furries won't be portrated as satan worshippers and child molesters.
Please. Furry is nothing but an interest group. It's a HELL of a
LOT different than the opression ethnic groups have suffered for YEARS. To
even compare the jokes made at furs' expense to racism is ridiculous.
> But I'm sure some other group will still be sterotyped +20 years from
> now, it's too
Yes, but I'm sure what happens to that group won't be an horrible
and shocking as what's been done to a CERTAIN GROUP of furs
> bad writters can't just learn to stop sterotyping. :/
Certain furs need to realize how funny they are to the rest of the
world.
> I have a scrip for ER: two writers get send to the ER on fire, everyone
> watches as they burn to death in slo-motion for an hour. ^.^
Wow, how enlightened of you.
Bender