Canada: Mentally-Defective Beaver or Bullying Bear?

[Oliver]

"Beaver or bear? Fur flies over Canadian sense of identity

The suggestion from a Canadian senator that Canada should replace its
national emblem has sparked a national debate about what it means to
be a Canadian in the 21st Century.

Beaver or polar bear? This is the stark choice Canadians face as they
rethink how they want to present themselves to the rest of the world."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16219305

[§nühw¤£f]

Sure, because its easier to focus on real meaningful stuff like a
national mascot than a disaster like the Tar Sands.

CanaDUH might want to try and "present themselves" as something other
than a retarded clone of Uhmurikuh.

<nods>


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[Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry]

> Beaver or polar bear? This is the stark choice Canadians face as they
> rethink how they want to present themselves to the rest of the world."

It's a false dichotomy. There are many options, as demonstrated by
this year's re-branding of "The Beaver":
http://www.flayrah.com/2981/beaver-re-branded-modern-readers

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[§ñühwö£f]

Still trying to create traffic for your site, bub?

:)

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[Oliver]

On Dec 22, 8:41 pm, §ñühwö£f <snuhw...@netscape.net> wrote:

> Still trying to create traffic for your site, bub?

GreenReaper knows how easy it is to whip up hits for Flayrah: All he
has to do is run yet another news article about yet another furry
caught sticking his dick into yet another dumb animal, and every
dogfucker-apologist will rush there to defend the sick fucks.

[§ñühwö£f]

Well, that would explain that nervous look on your face :)

[Oliver]

Enjoy what's left of this group, Snuffy, you stupid fucking cunt!

[§nühw¤£f]

Oliver wrote:
> Enjoy what's left of this group, Snuffy, you stupid fucking cunt!
>

Hey happy holidays to you too. If this NG is "dead" its because people
like you and the rest who've left for webbie forums dont put any effort
into "keeping it alive". Theres yer Xmass present...from me to you: a
hearty dose of reality :)

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[Wanderer]

Typo alert: That should be "Dentally-Defective", as specified in the
article.

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[Wanderer]

BOTH of you take it outside, okay? Honestly, if it isn't one of you acting
like a teenager searching for more ways to act stupid, it's the other one
swearing like a sailor that used to be a carpenter.

"§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message
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[§nühw¤£f]

Wanderer wrote:
> BOTH of you take it outside, okay? Honestly, if it isn't one of you acting
> like a teenager searching for more ways to act stupid, it's the other one
> swearing like a sailor that used to be a carpenter.
>

OMG! Its happened! You've devolved into a top-poster! How the mighty
have fallen...

<nods>

[thesaprophyte]

§nühw¤Łf wrote:
> Wanderer wrote:
>> BOTH of you take it outside, okay? Honestly, if it isn't one of you
>> acting like a teenager searching for more ways to act stupid, it's the
>> other one swearing like a sailor that used to be a carpenter.
>>
> OMG! Its happened! You've devolved into a top-poster! How the mighty
> have fallen...
>
> <nods>

Dominance display.

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[§ñühwö£f]

Heh...wandererer is a "pitcher"...

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[Wanderer]

Was that top-posting joke #20 or #21? I lost count somewhere around the
fifteenth time you pretended there was something in your posts worth
thinking about.

"�n�hw��f" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message
news:201112261537.UTC.jda4bt$u94$1...@tioat.net...

> Wanderer wrote:
>> BOTH of you take it outside, okay? Honestly, if it isn't one of you
>> acting like a teenager searching for more ways to act stupid, it's the
>> other one swearing like a sailor that used to be a carpenter.
>>
> OMG! Its happened! You've devolved into a top-poster! How the mighty have
> fallen...
>
> <nods>
>

>> "�n�hw��f" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in

[§nühw¤£f]

Wanderer wrote:
> Was that top-posting joke #20 or #21? I lost count somewhere around the
> fifteenth time you pretended there was something in your posts worth
> thinking about.
>

Hey bub, you gonna see the latest "Underworld" offering? Its new and
improved: Family Size Werewolves. Oh, and Kate is back in her skin tight
leather suit...

Liam Nieson is in some horrid "thriller" called the Grey that depicts
wolves as bloodthirsty killers. Stay Classy, h0llyw00d. Gotta keep those
bullshit memes alive.

And no, I wont be watching that.


> "§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message

> news:201112261537.UTC.jda4bt$u94$1...@tioat.net...
>> Wanderer wrote:
>>> BOTH of you take it outside, okay? Honestly, if it isn't one of you
>>> acting like a teenager searching for more ways to act stupid, it's the
>>> other one swearing like a sailor that used to be a carpenter.
>>>
>> OMG! Its happened! You've devolved into a top-poster! How the mighty have
>> fallen...
>>
>> <nods>
>>

>>> "§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in

[Inkan1969]

On Jan 12, 10:17 am, §nühw¤£f <snuhw...@Use-Author-Supplied-

Address.invalid> wrote:
> Liam Nieson is in some horrid "thriller" called the Grey that depicts
> wolves as bloodthirsty killers. Stay Classy, h0llyw00d. Gotta keep those
> bullshit memes alive.

I saw the trailer. I'm rooting for the wolves. :-)

- Inkan1969

[Oliver]

Given that the so-called 'wolves' in 'The Grey' are almost certainly
all-CGI, as they were in 'The Day After Tomorrow', why would anybody
think they are meant to reflect, or be a reflection on, real animals?

At least the bear in 'The Edge' was played by a flesh-and-blood beast.

[§ñühwö£f]

Oliver wrote:
> Given that the so-called 'wolves' in 'The Grey' are almost certainly
> all-CGI, as they were in 'The Day After Tomorrow', why would anybody
> think they are meant to reflect, or be a reflection on, real animals?
>

Its a myth that feeds the fears of the ignorant. You assume that many
people would know that wolves are not blood thirsty man eaters.

> At least the bear in 'The Edge' was played by a flesh-and-blood beast.

Bart? or maybe his kid...

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[Wanderer]

"§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message

news:201201121523.UTC.jemtu5$kb3$1...@tioat.net...

> Hey bub, you gonna see the latest "Underworld" offering? Its new and
> improved: Family Size Werewolves. Oh, and Kate is back in her skin tight
> leather suit...

Blech, I took one look at the CGI and abandoned ship. She'd have to look a
lot hotter for me to endure that mess.

>
> Liam Nieson is in some horrid "thriller" called the Grey that depicts
> wolves as bloodthirsty killers. Stay Classy, h0llyw00d. Gotta keep those
> bullshit memes alive.
>
> And no, I wont be watching that.
>

Well, keep in mind that wolves killed and ate a geology student back in, let
me check...

... 2005. Kenton Joel Carnegie was stalked, killed and eaten very
effectively on his way back to camp from the lake. He was herded, exhausted
and killed.

(cocks head) On my human side, of course, it turns my stomach.

On the wolf side... well, I have to applaud a perfectly-executed stalk.
Beautiful technique, really.

Yours in two minds,

The conflicted,

Wanderer

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What does it matter *where* people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow!
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I* don't know!
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[§ñühwö£f]

Wanderer wrote:
> "§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message
> news:201201121523.UTC.jemtu5$kb3$1...@tioat.net...
>> Hey bub, you gonna see the latest "Underworld" offering? Its new and
>> improved: Family Size Werewolves. Oh, and Kate is back in her skin tight
>> leather suit...
>
> Blech, I took one look at the CGI and abandoned ship. She'd have to look a
> lot hotter for me to endure that mess.
>

I dont know that thats even physically possible :)

>> Liam Nieson is in some horrid "thriller" called the Grey that depicts
>> wolves as bloodthirsty killers. Stay Classy, h0llyw00d. Gotta keep those
>> bullshit memes alive.
>>
>> And no, I wont be watching that.
>>
>
> Well, keep in mind that wolves killed and ate a geology student back in, let
> me check...
>
> ... 2005. Kenton Joel Carnegie was stalked, killed and eaten very
> effectively on his way back to camp from the lake. He was herded, exhausted
> and killed.
>
> (cocks head) On my human side, of course, it turns my stomach.
>
> On the wolf side... well, I have to applaud a perfectly-executed stalk.
> Beautiful technique, really.
>

And on the side of truth & facts...the evidence is inconclusive:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenton_Joel_Carnegie_wolf_attack>

<nods>

Maybe if you integrated your "sides" you'd get a taste for logic :)

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[Wanderer]

Congratulations on using Wikipedia. Pity you didn't read to the end, where
they mention not finding any bear tracks... but plenty of wolf tracks. Kind
of rare to find a flying bear eating people, wouldn't you say?

The inquest has ruled. And, however much I'd like to support the "no wolf
attacks by healthy wolves in North America" idea, I'm not going to deny the
facts. Where someone's been killed and eaten, and there are tracks only of
the victim and wolves, I don't think bears are responsible.

Yours showing more logic than your previous post,

The well-read,

[§nühw¤£f]

Wanderer wrote:
> Congratulations on using Wikipedia. Pity you didn't read to the end, where
> they mention not finding any bear tracks... but plenty of wolf tracks. Kind
> of rare to find a flying bear eating people, wouldn't you say?
>
> The inquest has ruled. And, however much I'd like to support the "no wolf
> attacks by healthy wolves in North America" idea, I'm not going to deny the
> facts. Where someone's been killed and eaten, and there are tracks only of
> the victim and wolves, I don't think bears are responsible.
>

So the bears tracks were obscured by the wolves who fed on the already
dead carcass.

Got it.

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[Oliver]

Can't say I'm particularly keen to see 'The Grey' but at least they
had the sense to cast Liam Neeson as lead, a actor who looks like he's
been in a fight or two, and not some teenaged, fresh-faced, peach-
fuzzed prettyboy out of 'Twilight' or whatever.

All this talk of wolves reminds me... need to get 'Drak Pack: The
Complete Series' on DVD.

[thesaprophyte]

Wanderer wrote:
> Congratulations on using Wikipedia. Pity you didn't read to the end, where
> they mention not finding any bear tracks... but plenty of wolf tracks. Kind
> of rare to find a flying bear eating people, wouldn't you say?

I say, the whole thing sounds like a confounded bugbear.

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[Wanderer]

"§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message

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> So the bears tracks were obscured by the wolves who fed on the already
> dead carcass.
>
> Got it.
>

Sorry, no. Unless the wolves were following the presumed bear *en masse*,
you'd still have bear prints in the vicinity. Heck, they could even see
where a fox had stopped by to see what was going on after the wolves left;
the bear hypothesis requires evidence which does not exist.

That's before you notice that the wolf tracks, as I mentioned before, are a
textbook stalk:

1 wolf follows him from the lake, cutting off his retreat.
2 wolves or more proceed ahead of him, and begin "herding" him to cut him
off from his "herd".

Once he was steered off the trail, he was on wolf-favored ground. He made a
brave run for it, true, but by then he was already dead; he just needed to
be eaten. He spilled most of his blood when they started to hamstring him
from behind, and didn't get much further before he died. Then the other
humans interrupted the pack feast, but hey, it happens. That's why the
wolves dragged the carcass into a shady area for better protection from big
strangers that don't leave you alone to finish eating.

The prints support this being done by wolves. There are neither bear
tracks, nor bear spoor, nor bear fur, nor bear sightings in the area. The
only bite marks on the carcass are from wolves. (The fox didn't stay for
lunch.) And there were wolves sighted in the area; no bears. Plus, a wolf
killed soon after had fabric in his stomach.

I'm sorry, Snuh, but wolves eat meat, and humans are made of meat. It's
nothing personal, you understand. Just survival.

[Wanderer]

"Oliver" <oaco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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If you do, let me know where to get it, won't you? My birthday's coming up.
:)

[§nühw¤£f]

Pretty funny coming from a guy who dosnt live in snow country, dosnt
live in wolf country and has likely never seen a dead carcass of any
kind up close. I spend more time in the woods than you do eating your 3
squares a day.

[swiftcall]

On Dec 18 2011, 6:49 am, Oliver <oacoom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Beaver or bear? Fur flies over Canadian sense of identity
>
> The suggestion from a Canadian senator that Canada should replace its
> national emblem has sparked a national debate about what it means to
> be a Canadian in the 21st Century.
>
> Beaver or polar bear? This is the stark choice Canadians face as they
> rethink how they want to present themselves to the rest of the world."
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16219305

I have to admit it's hard for Canadians to think of anything that
defines them. For instance, can you think of a Canadian monument? No.
A natural wonder? I think not. A great military victory? Nope.

America can say Statue of Liberty, Mt Rushmore, Lincoln Monument,
Grand Canyon/ Hoover Damn, and kicking Hitlers' ass. Then you start
thinking of Edison, Tesla, and Einstein. Then there is Ford, JFK, MLK,
the moon landing and the atom bomb.

Canadians have Bob and Doug McKinsey, and on a map their country looks
like a hat that our country wears.

So it can't be easy being Canadian. But I love them anyway because
they try.

[Freddy1X]

swiftcall wrote:

( cuts )

>
> I have to admit it's hard for Canadians to think of anything that
> defines them. For instance, can you think of a Canadian monument? No.
> A natural wonder? I think not. A great military victory? Nope.
>
> America can say Statue of Liberty, Mt Rushmore, Lincoln Monument,
> Grand Canyon/ Hoover Damn, and kicking Hitlers' ass. Then you start
> thinking of Edison, Tesla, and Einstein. Then there is Ford, JFK, MLK,
> the moon landing and the atom bomb.
>
> Canadians have Bob and Doug McKinsey, and on a map their country looks
> like a hat that our country wears.

There is also the Red Green show and the Frantics. The Frantics even had
the occasional furry skit in their show.

Freddy,
remembering the 80s.

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[Wanderer]

"�n�hw��f" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message
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> Pretty funny coming from a guy who dosnt live in snow country, dosnt live
> in wolf country and has likely never seen a dead carcass of any kind up
> close. I spend more time in the woods than you do eating your 3 squares a
> day.
>

Ah, ad hominem, how I have NOT missed you. "The evidence is wrong because
you live in Texas" is not a logical statement, Snuhbuhleh, no matter how
much you wish it could be; not even the Blue Fairy could turn it into a Real
Argument.

If you wonder why I sound rather smug in the above text, it's because you've
actually managed to go so far off the map in your analysis of me that you
seem to have landed somewhere outside Oz. For your information and
edification:

1. "You don't live in snow country."
STEE-RIKE ONE! Sorry, Weather Wizard, but yes, Texas does get snow on
occasion. Real, honest-to-goodness frozen water crystals falling from the
sky, yes. Some years a dusting, some years a blizzard, but yes, Virginia,
there is such a thing as snow in Texas.

2. "... likely never seen a dead carcass of any kind up close."
STEE-RIKE TWO! Honestly, Snuh, do you think I'm one of those people that
believes meat comes in plastic packages from the Supermarket Gods? My
family hunts, my family has run farms before, so yes, I know all about where
meat comes from.

Moreover, you don't live in Texas without at least seeing some flattened
aramadillos and skunks with their guts spread out along the highway, and
I've been here a long time now. I've stood there while a poisoned dog
breathed his last in the vet's parking lot, I've stood by the side of my
beloved pet cat while he died, I've seen the leavings of a turkey vulture,
I've seen how animals are killed for meat processing. You may... MAY, mind
you... have seen MORE carcasses than I have, but yes, I have seen and
touched carcasses. I just wish one of my blasted relatives had been willing
to show me how to prep the carcass for butchering, darn it... no, on second
thought, my mother always said they were bad at getting all of the shot out
of the meat, so maybe I should find another teacher.

(Ironically, leather of all kinds gives me the willies. Something about the
scent and touch of boiled skin, I dunno...)

3. "I spend more time in the woods than you do eating your three squares a
day."
And YER OUTA HERE! Sorry, Snuh, but I'm a primitive camping nut. While my
recent time in the woods hasn't been nearly what I'd like (what with my
sister in the hospital, her husband in the hospital for a week, me having to
care for two kids without having a car or any other form of transportation,
etc.), I LOVE spending time in actual woods. Real woods with real wild
animals in them that eat other animals, yes. I've looked at a rabbit from a
foot away... twice... and called a crow down from the sky. And some day,
when I can finally have some time to myself instead of taking care of all
these people, I am going off into the woods for at least a week to let
myself decompress.

(Honestly, Snuh, don't you remember my complaints over Sabrelion's Meow,
back on AHWW? Way too cushy. It isn't camping when you're in a cabin with
a/c, a microwave, a hot plate, satellite TV and bunk beds. I much preferred
the Texas Mini-Howl when I could go: Tents, campfires, and sweet, sweet
nature out beneath the stars.)

Next time you want to analyze someone, you might try analyzing THEM instead
of your own prejudices.

Yours truly,

The pining-for-the-pines,

Wanderer

Where am I going? I don't quite know.
What does it matter *where* people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow!
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I* don't know!
-- a. a. milne, *On A Spring Day*

[§nühw¤£f]

Wanderer wrote:
> "§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message

tl;dr

<rolls eyes>

[Wanderer]

"§nühw¤Łf" <snuh...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message

news:201201191554.UTC.jf9eaq$e9i$1...@tioat.net...

> Pretty funny coming from a guy who dosnt live in snow country, dosnt live
> in wolf country and has likely never seen a dead carcass of any kind up
> close. I spend more time in the woods than you do eating your 3 squares a
> day.
>

Yours truly,

The pining-for-the-pines,

Wanderer

Where am I going? I don't quite know.
What does it matter *where* people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow!
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I* don't know!
-- a. a. milne, *On A Spring Day*