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REDOXEN8

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
might be fun to know
So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?

I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most art
you can find out there :)

Redoxen

Nate Patrin

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REDOXEN8 <redo...@aol.com> wrote:

> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?

1) Terrie Smith
2) Jim Groat
3) Michele Light
4) Eric Schwartz
5) Lance Rund

Oops, wait, you mean FAVORITE furry artists! Sorry, that was my list of
"*overexposed* furry artists". Sorry. Ahem. *cough*

The real list:

1) Charla "Squee Rat" Trotman
2) Scotty Arsenault
3) Amy "Amara" Pronovost
4) Ainsley Seago
5) Sara Palmer

Of course, if I wanted to have a top 50... well, I *might* be able to get
all my faves on there.

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In article <199808201728...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

redo...@aol.com (REDOXEN8) wrote:
> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>

I have a very loose definition of art, so here goes, in no particular order:

Paul Di Filippo
H.R. Giger
Johnny Depp
Jean-Michelle Basquiet
Anson Maddox
Sarah Donovan

Oh, wait, you mean subculture-specific? Okay. I don't have favorite artists
per se, and I tend to get cold on popular people. Mostly it's just people I
know, again in no particular order:

Rain Simpson
David Steele
Matt Harpold
Charla Trotman
Peter Bednar
Nate Patrin


b.root
also has a loose definition of the number five. o)

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Syke

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>REDOXEN8 <redo...@aol.com> wrote:
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>> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
>it
>> might be fun to know
>> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>

Uhm... is this a multiple choice question because I don't
do so well on fill in the blanks....

Skip Sanders

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Hmm, a toughie to select... and you didn't specify how many. <grin>

Welll....

Todd Sutherland (Great stories, too!)
James Hardiman
Terrie Smith
Tygger
Doug Winger
Roz Gibson
Karri Aronen
Sky Rigdon
Wookie/Nakira
And a cast of at least dozens more. <smile>

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>I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
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>might be fun to know
>So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
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Jim Lee Jr.

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REDOXEN8 wrote:

> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
> I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most art
> you can find out there :)
>
> Redoxen

Here's my list, to wit:Albert Temple
Scotty Arsenault
Al Jones
Malakai Cain
T.K. Dye
G. Raymond Eddy
Rain Simpson
Dan Ramos

Jim Lee Jr.

Rebecca Gallant

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REDOXEN8 wrote:
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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
> I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most art
> you can find out there :)
>
> Redoxen

My favorite furry artist that isn't me (smiles) is Nami Jarret a.k.a
Red.
The guy kicks ass! ;)
Check him out at Furnation, under the name "Red".
-Becky
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song...@usa.net

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> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?

Right off the top of my spotted head, these are the ones I go out of my way
to look for.

Cartoonists: Jeff MacNelley (who does anthro paintings as well as the cartoon
'Shoe') Wiley Miller (who's cartoon 'Non Sequitor' frequently includes anthro
characters) Micheal Fry and T. Lewis ('Over the Hedge') Bill Holbrook ('Keven
and Kell')

Furry Artists:
Michele Light
Tygger Graf
Becky Kemp (Gallant)

Chance
(trying to get around the firewall at work)

Don Sanders

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>I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
>might be fun to know
>So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
>I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most art
>you can find out there :)
>
>Redoxen

Here we go again folks! Who is your favorite furry artists?

for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!
but I guess one must think positive here.

Don Sanders

Dsan Tsan on #furry of Yiffnet
Artist at Roll Yer Own Graphics
http://www.dreamscape.com/dsand101/dsan.htm
(my furry page) Email dsan...@future.dreamscape.com

Chuck Melville

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REDOXEN8 <redo...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199808201728...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
> I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most
art
> you can find out there :)
>


Gah. There are so many I could never name them all.

Here's five in no particular order:

Terrie Smith
Ken Fletcher
Robert & Margaret Carspecken
Heinrich Kley
Sky Rigdon

Mind you, this is only -five- of my favorites.


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ilr

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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
>

Blah Blah Blah.

Shane Fisher
Lisa Jennings
Naylor
Schwartz
Doug
JWillard
SWilkinson
Blumrich
Shawntae Howard
Black Rabbit
Tygger
Calvin Brodus

Blah eleven Blah lucky number, Blah-foo.

-Blah

Razor

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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>

> I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most
art
> you can find out there :)
>

> Redoxen
>


Ken Sample
Sara Palmer
Brian O'Connell
Wolf Kidd
Todd Sutherland

S. arsenault

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ilr wrote:
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> > I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> > might be fun to know
> > So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
> >
> >
>
> Blah Blah Blah.

>
> Blah eleven Blah lucky number, Blah-foo.
>
> -Blah

blahbluh blah?

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S. arsenault

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REDOXEN8 wrote:
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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>

eeeh.. hmm..
i like lots of 'em.
i try to remain impartial :)
i will say, I like my own cartoons best! (is that so
wrong? :D

oh, and Walt Kelly. :)

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Bob "Rac Cooney" Nelson

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for me:
Joe Ekaitis,for his funny giant furries
Digo Raccoon
Gene Catlow
Scott Arsenault
G. Raymond Eddy
Mike Sagara(Hey Neeters,Shanda)
Mike Kazelah
and some of the newer Yerfers,like Sarnia Hudson(I
think that's her name?) and Doodles.

Bob "Rac Cooney" Nelson
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mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <6rihof$ckh$1...@chaos.ao.net>,

noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!

Oh, that's easy. Jason Williams, followed closely by Joe Ekaitis.

b.root

Howie T. Cat

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mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> In article <6rihof$ckh$1...@chaos.ao.net>,
> noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> > for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!
>
> Oh, that's easy. Jason Williams, followed closely by Joe Ekaitis.
>
Two words: "David" and "Gonterman". Wheeee..


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Howie T. Cat

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REDOXEN8 wrote:
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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
Um.. letsee.. here's some of them, in no particular order:

Matt Burt
Erin Vernon
Candy L. (surprised no one's mentioned HER yet... )
Carol Schneeweiss
Rain Simpson
Albert Temple
Al Mackey
David Steele (surprised no one's mentioned HIM either)
Julie Miyamoto
Erin Middendorf
Meike Thomas
Scotty Arsenault
Mary Minch
Charla Trotman
Frank Villareal(sp?)
William Ruzica(sp?)
Some other people

Yeah.. the list goes on for a while. I can't decide on anything. That's
why I don't have a "favorite" anything. Anyway, it was nice to put some
names on my list that others haven't.. Goodnite:

"Puff Daddy Sucks!"

Gordon McVey

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> B. arsenault

You're changing your name? Cool.

Gordon McVey

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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?

Eric Schwartz
Michele Light
Candy Lewin
Scotty Arsenault
Amy Pronovost
Melissa Drake
Erin Vernon
Al Mackey
Samuel Jirenius
Antti Remes
Bobby Holiday
Keith Belcher
KeV Beeley
Rain Simpson
Sue Rankin
Tom Ziolkowski
Amara Tie... Tei... Err... oCeLoT :)

Hmm... This could go on all night!


Chuck Melville

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S. arsenault <su...@yerf.com> wrote in article
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> oh, and Walt Kelly. :)

Walt Kelly is good.

Here's five more of my favorites:

Bill Holbrook
Bob Clampett
Gene Colan
Mike Kazaleh
Frank Frazzetta

Again, in particular order.

Don Sanders

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In article <6rj825$jqa$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <6rihof$ckh$1...@chaos.ao.net>,
> noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
>> for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!
>
>Oh, that's easy. Jason Williams, followed closely by Joe Ekaitis.
>
>b.root
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Ah, that's the spirit, however I would not put Joe Ekaitis on that list of
worst artist. I see that I must set aside yet another catagory.

Ok folks! now about this?

Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out tons of
art to the fandom. Or at least tries.

Chuck Melville

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Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote in article
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> Ok folks! now about this?
>
> Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out
tons of
> art to the fandom. Or at least tries.

Jordan Greywolf. The man has hundreds of scans on the net, and I hardly
ever hear his name mentioned; which is a pity, because he does some
beuatiful work. Another one of my favorite artists.

Here's five more of my favorites, just for the heck of it, and again in no
particular ranking:

Conrad Wong
Maggie DeAlarcon
Amara (oCeLoT) Telgemeir
Tracy Kazaleh
Monika Livingstone

Amy 'Amara' Pronovost

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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:17:37 GMT, noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders)
was chased around by rabid Ewoks for posting this drivel!

>
>Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out tons of
>art to the fandom. Or at least tries.

Well I've only seen my name mentioned once this time around..

In thw words of Calvin 'your popularity polls are slipping' <grin>

Could just be because I've been busy with two jobs and quiet lateley.

Good work with little recognition: Christine Klunder... does anyone
know what happened to her? I haven't seen her in a long time

Amy

Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci

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Favorite artist?
Art you like? Or art you respect? There is a difference. Or artist you
like as a person, since it said "favorite furry artist" ;)
If we are talking about people in the "community" as opposed to pros who
happen to do anthro/furry/animal art -

Tom Verre (likely the best true artist who's been throught the fandom)
Then there are a leagion of other artists who i enjoy the work of, the
memeber list of Huzzah, Most of the stable at AP, and any number of others.

There are next to none that I don't like on some level, but they ususally
are either some unfortunate beginners who haven't yet or can't seem to
ever mastered the basics, or those whos style simply doesn't "click" with
me, like Hardiman(?)or is it Hardison(?), the guy who does those
rediculiously explicite skunks. Regardless of content, there is that
little something in how he does it that just doesn't work for me. But
that he seems sucessful and popular, hopefully for reasons other than
exposed genitalia, shows that favorite artist is awfully subjective.

sonny windstrup

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REDOXEN8 wrote:
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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
>
> I for one like the work that Michele Light does, it's different then most art
> you can find out there :)
>
> Redoxen

So it's time for that again. ;)

FWIW, here's a list in no particular order
of some folks known to be rendering
anthropomorphic animals, whose art I happen
to like a lot.

- Charla Trotman
- Eric Blumrich
- Amy Pronovost
- Sondra Roy
- David Steele
- Albert Temple
- Amara Telgemeier
- Margaret Carspeckan
- Jim Groat
- Stephanie Gladden
- Ainsley Seago
- Erin Middendorf
- Conrad Wong
- Mel. White


kobus

Jeff Mancebo

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REDOXEN8 wrote:
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> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought it
> might be fun to know
> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?

boojum cocks his head... "Can I vote for most of them?" He
asks with a *giggle*. "Actually, my top 10 list would have
to be Tygger!, Lance Rund, Michelle Light, Monika Livingstone,
Terrie Smith, Bruce Elliot, Paul Defenbaugh, Wookie, Michelle Gault,
and Keese."

boojum the brown bunny

Brian Yee

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> David Steele (surprised no one's mentioned HIM either)

yes, Too bad he left without a trace


John & Paula Knode

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I like a whole lot of artists, but if I had to pick my favorates
they'd have to be:

Michelel Light, Nuff' said
Conna Stevenson, Cuanu rocks
Ken Singshow, Merry is adorable, and he can do almost any kind of art,
Terrie smith, Love those Lemurs!
Eric Shawtz, A fellow Ohioan
Candy L. Trixi is, um, very atractive. (Words come to mind that She'd
rather not have me use. ;) )
Kajima Appleseed Stormrider, I wonder how they fit that on his driver's
license.
and lastly,
Ginger, who's real name escapes me at the moment.

And, the worst. (nothing personal guys)

Myself, I'm still drawing on notebook paper wiht a mechanical pencil.
G. Raymond Eddy,
Sully, minus Reeba, she's cool
Rober Djesus, please stick wiht aneme art, your stinking up the fandom,
and last and least,
A furry who's name escapes me, but who's perverted ball point pen
drawings on norebook paper of nude vixens from certain. . .angles are
the worst and most disgusting thing that ever passed as furry, please,
get a life or some skill.

Joshua


Nate Patrin

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John & Paula Knode <trin...@bright.net> wrote:

> Terrie smith, Love those Lemurs!

Oi! I draw lemurs, too! So's Juan Crespo. Jeez...

> And, the worst. (nothing personal guys)

> Sully, minus Reeba, she's cool

Pardon me while I stare at the screen and try to convince myself I'm not
hallucinating this.

> A furry who's name escapes me, but who's perverted ball point pen
> drawings on norebook paper of nude vixens from certain. . .angles are
> the worst and most disgusting thing that ever passed as furry, please,
> get a life or some skill.

Well, that narrows it down to about... oh, 50 different 'artists'.

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John & Paula Knode

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>
>
> > Sully, minus Reeba, she's cool
>
> Pardon me while I stare at the screen and try to convince myself I'm not
> hallucinating this.
>

I shlud have said, artists who's art interests me least, Sully may have
talent but I simply am not persnaly impressed by the art I've seen.

One more correction, I did't mean G. Raymond Eddy, I meant another fur
who i often get mixed up iwht G. raymond eddy.

Howie T. Cat

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Brian Yee wrote:
>
> > David Steele (surprised no one's mentioned HIM either)
>
> yes, Too bad he left without a trace

Eh? He left? This I did not know?

"I don't know nothin, see?"

Howie T. Cat

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Howie T. Cat wrote:
>
> REDOXEN8 wrote:

> > So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?
> >

> Um.. letsee.. here's some of them, in no particular order:

[snip-ola of a big list]

I was just reminded of another artist I like:

Keith Belcher

How could I forget *him*?

Richard Chandler - WA Resident

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In article <bevnsagE...@netcom.com>, bev...@netcom.com (Bev Clark/Steve
Gallacci) writes:
> Tom Verre (likely the best true artist who's been throught the
> fandom) Then there are a leagion of other artists who i enjoy the work
> of, the memeber list of Huzzah, Most of the stable at AP, and any
> number of others.

He and Pat Kelly are two of my absolute favorites. I can never get enough of
their stuff, and I can't think of a single thing they've done that I didn't
like. I want more Yujo! I want ten more volumes of Verre-Ations. I'll spend
good money on his art!


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Trixi Bigfoot

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I tend to appreciate many artists not just for their work, but also
for their efforts and personalities, meaning, that I am more apt to
enjoy the work of an earnest beginner over a professional simply by the
personalities that come out through the artist themselves and their
art.. =). But anyways, these are some of my faves, and why they are.

In no particular order...

Chandra Odom: Simply amazing expressions, wonderful character designs!
I just love Isis!
Rose Besch: A very stylized form of anime, modern, and beautiful! And
she tends to work solely with generic brand markers. still managing
wonderful effects. Gorgeous!
Albert Temple: It's hard not to smile at his work. It's so amiable,
friendly, and expressive. The characters leap right out at you. And such
a sweetie IRL!
Thomas K. Dye: Comic strip artist whose simple designs become so
vibrant and expressive...I wish I had half his talent, gosh! And of
course, he too, is adorable and sweet IRL. What a guy. =D
Amara Telgemeier: Versatile, extremely talented, and just plain
Awesome. Words can't describe her work.
Sara Wheeler: Noelani Manawolf is just too awesome. Her pics are so
sweet and sexy, and detailed! Wonderous use of color, too.
Don Sanders: Dsan Tsan of Yiffnet, doesn't think his adorably
expressive art is any good. Man, chow, show some confidence, I LOVE your
work! It's simply charming.
"Cyber Hare": Wonderfully adorable pics, great expression!
Tom Ziolkowski: Awesome cartooney stuff...I sure miss his work.
Ken Singshow: Amazing cartooney stuff, with such a wide array of
styles. This guy can draw just about anything!
John Barrett: Roxikat! Wonderful anime!
Micheal Higgs: Simply adorable art, so realistic too! You just wanna
cuddle the creatures he draws. =D
Ryan Dewalt: Now, would I leave my own significant other out? I'm
stepping out of the "bias zone" as much as I can for this, bear with me.
;> Tet's art needs a bit of work, but I've seen him draw in person.
I've seen the amount of detail he painstakingly adds to his pics, and I
know how absolutely hard he tries to make things work. And for that, I
admire his art. (It's improving a good bit too!)
Scotty Arsenault: Sully. Just. Rules. =D.
Jessica Heyl: Asrial Cat...Amazingly expressive pics, and so
adorable and energetic!
Jason Furness: Extremely funny and expressive art...this guy has one
of the best senses of humor I've ever seen.

Goodness...there are so many more...This isn't even half, but all of
these artists have simply charmed me with their delightful work and
wonderful personalities. I bow down and bring offerings of goldfish
crackers to you all! >:)

Trixi Bigfoot

Chuck Melville

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Richard Chandler - WA Resident <mau...@gte.net> wrote in article
<980821211...@mauser.at.gte.net>...

> In article <bevnsagE...@netcom.com>, bev...@netcom.com (Bev
Clark/Steve
> Gallacci) writes:
> > Tom Verre (likely the best true artist who's been throught the
> > fandom) Then there are a leagion of other artists who i enjoy the work
> > of, the memeber list of Huzzah, Most of the stable at AP, and any
> > number of others.
>
> He and Pat Kelly are two of my absolute favorites. I can never get
enough of
> their stuff, and I can't think of a single thing they've done that I
didn't
> like. I want more Yujo! I want ten more volumes of Verre-Ations. I'll
spend
> good money on his art!
>

Tom and Leah are pretty much out of furry fandom these days, and doing
pretty well working for Humongus Software; I rather suspect they don't miss
Furry much. Pity; I was fond of both of their work.

mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <6rjkvt$27l$1...@chaos.ao.net>,

noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> Ah, that's the spirit, however I would not put Joe Ekaitis on that list of
> worst artist. I see that I must set aside yet another catagory.

And it's not fair to have just two artists who I dislike. Add to the list
Colin Crisanti, Richard Bartrop, and Warner-Jones (or whoever it is that owns
that directory on the Orlando).


>
> Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out tons of
> art to the fandom. Or at least tries.

Say, uh, you wouldn't be talking about yourself, would you? o)

mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <01bdcd3d$7e49b220$baf4...@brian.wave.shaw.ca>,

"Brian Yee" <bria...@NOSPAMPLEASE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > David Steele (surprised no one's mentioned HIM either)
>
> yes, Too bad he left without a trace

No he didn't. I know where he is.

mokele

mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <35DE1BB2...@bright.net>,

John & Paula Knode <trin...@bright.net> wrote:
> I shlud have said, artists who's art interests me least, Sully may have
> talent but I simply am not persnaly impressed by the art I've seen.
>
> One more correction, I did't mean G. Raymond Eddy, I meant another fur
> who i often get mixed up iwht G. raymond eddy.

And let's not leave out the lamest of lame hacks, Fauxx.

Don Sanders

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In article <6rm1as$tka$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <6rjkvt$27l$1...@chaos.ao.net>,
> noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
>> Ah, that's the spirit, however I would not put Joe Ekaitis on that list of
>> worst artist. I see that I must set aside yet another catagory.
>
>And it's not fair to have just two artists who I dislike. Add to the list
>Colin Crisanti, Richard Bartrop, and Warner-Jones (or whoever it is that owns
>that directory on the Orlando).
>
>
>>
>> Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out tons of
>> art to the fandom. Or at least tries.
>
>Say, uh, you wouldn't be talking about yourself, would you? o)

Nah! I would not put myself in that catagory. I don't pump out that much art
to the fandom, I'm rather a slow doggie at that. As for trying, I have been
told I could do better, so that could be considered not trying hard enough.
>
>b.root


>
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Don Sanders

Joe Ekaitis

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Don Sanders wrote:

>
> Ah, that's the spirit, however I would not put Joe Ekaitis on that list of
> worst artist. I see that I must set aside yet another catagory.
>

> Ok folks! now about this?
>

> Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out tons of
> art to the fandom. Or at least tries.
>

How about "People who Inspire Passion at Both Ends of the Scale"? :)
--
Joe Ekaitis
JoeEk...@anthro-animal-art.com
http://www.anthro-animal-art.com
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sonny windstrup

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Jeez, you two --

This is, like, the most incredibly offensive and outrageous
spinoff to this old, old lame thread that I've ever seen.
Knock it off...!
Posting 'worst artist' contests is going to hurt
and discourage and do nobody any good. Shame on you. :P

kobus

mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> In article <6rihof$ckh$1...@chaos.ao.net>,


> noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> > for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!
>
> Oh, that's easy. Jason Williams, followed closely by Joe Ekaitis.
>

Jim Lee Jr.

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Don Sanders wrote:

> In article <6rm1as$tka$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mok...@hotmail.com wrote:

> >In article <6rjkvt$27l$1...@chaos.ao.net>,


> > noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
>
> >And it's not fair to have just two artists who I dislike. Add to the list
> >Colin Crisanti, Richard Bartrop, and Warner-Jones (or whoever it is that owns
> >that directory on the Orlando).

> >Say, uh, you wouldn't be talking about yourself, would you? o

> >b.root

I am getting a little concerned over this list of disliked artists; I purrsonally
think such opinions should not be pubically aired and that the feelings of the named
artists should be respected. If others said the same things about in public, how
would you react? I would not publically embarass another artist whose art I did not
like. Can we please go on to another thread?

Jim


Syke

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Joe Ekaitis wrote in message <35DF5B9C...@anthro-animal-art.com>...

>Don Sanders wrote:
>
>>
>> Ah, that's the spirit, however I would not put Joe Ekaitis on that list
of
>> worst artist. I see that I must set aside yet another catagory.
>>
>> Ok folks! now about this?
>>
>> Name the Artist(s) who get little or no recogition(sp?) yet pumps out
tons of
>> art to the fandom. Or at least tries.
>>
>
>How about "People who Inspire Passion at Both Ends of the Scale"? :)

Passion inspiring, goes to David Hopkins, Pepe Val Pew. He has his own
style and while it may not be as realistic as some nor as 'good' in some
people's
eyes *My own the first time I saw some of it*, but geeze, his style carries
over
excellently in the subject matter of his comics and anything else he does.
It's just
not 'cute' as some people like, and if it's not cute, it's not popular,
apparently. :P
Now that I've killed the comma, I'll just go on saying, that of all the
artists I listed previously,
my favorite for portraying a mood and passing it on, is David, even if I do
find
some of his subject matter .. uhm.. questionable ;)

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Black and White *Yes, it will resume as of
this upcoming Monday*
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ilr

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>
> > Terrie smith, Love those Lemurs!
>
> Oi! I draw lemurs, too! So's Juan Crespo. Jeez...
>
Yeah, yeah,
me too.!
and she's not wearing any pants *tee hee*

ilr

flashcat

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ilr wrote:
>
> >
> > > Terrie smith, Love those Lemurs!
> >
> > Oi! I draw lemurs, too! So's Juan Crespo. Jeez...

Of course, if you're talking Chester, technically he's not a lemur.
Terrie explained him to me once, when we were first talking over the
litle crud.

He's what's sometimes known as a "miner's cat" -- a somewhat
large-ish, non-domestic feline native to North America. Their range
included Texas and Kansas at one time, though they seem to've thinned
out the last centure or so. Least I'VE never run across one.

An easy mistake, though. It's the looong, striped tail that leads to
the confusion.

That's okay. I bob it for him in HAVOC # 7. Yep, cut it right off,
leaving him with a new identity and personality. From then on, it's "Mr.
Stubs", the passive and rather dull green grocer!

Of course I'm just kidding...

ilr

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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>
> Ok, consider it knocked off. However I think I may have made a point in
> showing that popularity goes above those who goes unnamed. At least a few
> names came out that would have otherwise have gone unnoticed and lost in the
> obscurity which is our lots in life. As for discourage and hurting somebody,
> I feel that silence hurts more than a bad comment anyday.
> :P
>
I agree bout the silence. I'd rather hear "Yeah, fu*k
the ilr, I fu*kin hate it too". Probably more than half
of us artists here(& writers too) have never had our
names mentioned in the same sentence as art unless
it was initiated by an obvious play for pity, or mentioned
by a scant few friend(no, not plural). Where's the recognition
I spent 20 hours a week to get, why should I even be an
artist if no one knows it? And don't gimme that freakin
"you should do it for yourself" line. We've already got the
images in our heads people, we don't really need to see it
on paper. We're only trying to share them with you.
If a tree falls on Bambi in the forest and no one's around
to hear it, well, you know the rest. But you wanna talk
about naming everybody, SHOW ME DA BANDWIDTH!

Which is probably why it was a stupid thread in the first
place and so few people tied their boats to it. They knew
better, Donit Suk be'in somewhat of a newby?
Wouldn't stop me from participating in it in the future.
I like dropping names, but I won't hold my breath
waiting for someone to drop mine.

You seem comfortable with this so I won't lie to you Dsan,
I wouldn't put you in my top ten, maybe #21. But that's only a
matter of interest. Maybe it's just the thing I have against
Playboy Bunnies, but the rabbits just don't do it for me.
-ilr

Dan Pankratz

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In article <01bdce5d$97436a20$b92226d1@ilr>, "ilr" <i...@rof.net> writes:

> to hear it, well, you know the rest. But you wanna talk
> about naming everybody, SHOW ME DA BANDWIDTH!
>
> Which is probably why it was a stupid thread in the first
> place and so few people tied their boats to it. They knew

Got it in one, grasshoppa.

-Dan

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Jim Boswell

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Hi kids, here's my list of top-notch high-hitting extra-value
double-karate-chop-action kid-tested-mother-approved artists, in no
particular order. Well, alphabetical, actually, though that's not my
fault... :)

Eugene Arenhaus
Sully
Adam Duncan
Cameron Floyd
Abe Groter
André Heinonen
Nami Jarrett
Stephanie Lostimolo
Nate Patrin
Brian Reynolds
Sondra Roy
Amara Telgemeier

With love from the guy who's never worth more than $.02,

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Chuck Melville

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Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote in article
<6rnpc4$8vo$1...@chaos.ao.net>...

> >mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <6rihof$ckh$1...@chaos.ao.net>,


> >> noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> >> > for once I would love to see who is anyone's worst furry artist!
> >>
> >> Oh, that's easy. Jason Williams, followed closely by Joe Ekaitis.
> >>
> >> b.root
> >>


> In article <35DF65F6...@uu.net>, sonny windstrup <so...@uu.net>
wrote:


> >Jeez, you two --
> >
> >This is, like, the most incredibly offensive and outrageous
> >spinoff to this old, old lame thread that I've ever seen.
> >Knock it off...!
> >Posting 'worst artist' contests is going to hurt
> >and discourage and do nobody any good. Shame on you. :P
> >
> >kobus
> >
>

> Ok, consider it knocked off. However I think I may have made a point in
> showing that popularity goes above those who goes unnamed. At least a
few
> names came out that would have otherwise have gone unnoticed and lost in
the
> obscurity which is our lots in life. As for discourage and hurting
somebody,
> I feel that silence hurts more than a bad comment anyday.
> :P

While it's true that quite a few folks chose the same artists as
favorites, quite a few others (including myself) chose artists -not-
mentioned as a consensus. So it's not entirely a 'popularity' contest; the
choices made were personal.
I strongly disagree that silence hurts more than a negative comment,
particularly in this case. A carelessly or thoughtlessly negative comment
such "So-and-so's art stinks" is needlessly cruel; this isn't even a
critique, but a personal value judgement, and can cause ill feelings and
resentment. Whereas silence... is silence. It may not be helpful, but at
least it doesn't contribute to ill feelings.
And for what it's worth, I disagree with the opinion offered of both of
those gentlemen's work; I happen to think their work is just fine... and
I've enjoyed Joe's work for years, since he first posted regularly on AOL's
predesecor, Q-Link.

Not Thomas K. Dye

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(Kevin J. Dog enters the stage with a big pair of goofy glasses on, an
obvious fake moustache, a trenchcoat, and an unplaceable accent.)

Yes zirs, my favorit furry artist iz zee wan and only Thomas K. Dye. After
Candy L. and Albert Temple, he rulez thee big world there bwana. Coming
from Spain or Russia (I forget which) it sure is nice to see good american
furry artist like Thomas K. Dye. Pleez think of heem next time you make
such list becoz wan can only tell by heez work that hee try hard. Yes zir.
Now I go back to my native country, whatever it waz.

Definitely not Thomas K. Dye
www.newshounds.com (which this total stranger is recommending)

P.S. This has been a test of the Emergency Joke System. ;)

S. arsenault

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Not Thomas K. Dye wrote:
>
> (Kevin J. Dog enters the stage with a big pair of goofy glasses on, an
> obvious fake moustache, a trenchcoat, and an unplaceable accent.)
>
> Yes zirs, my favorit furry artist iz zee wan and only Thomas K. Dye. After
> Candy L. and Albert Temple, he rulez thee big world there bwana.
> P.S. This has been a test of the Emergency Joke System. ;)

*points and giggles* siwwy puppy! :D

--

S. arsenault
Yerf

Don Sanders

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In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>, "Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com> wrote:
>
>
>Don Sanders wrote:
>
>> In article <6rm1as$tka$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mok...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >In article <6rjkvt$27l$1...@chaos.ao.net>,

>> > noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
>>
>> >And it's not fair to have just two artists who I dislike. Add to the list
>> >Colin Crisanti, Richard Bartrop, and Warner-Jones (or whoever it is that
> owns
>> >that directory on the Orlando).
>> >Say, uh, you wouldn't be talking about yourself, would you? o
>
>> >b.root
>
>I am getting a little concerned over this list of disliked artists; I
> purrsonally
>think such opinions should not be pubically aired and that the feelings of the
> named
>artists should be respected. If others said the same things about in public,
> how
>would you react? I would not publically embarass another artist whose art I did
> not
>like. Can we please go on to another thread?
>
> Jim
>

Which was one reason why I changed my topic from disliked artists to artists
who are not reconized for their work. Although some of you may find that not
much of a change, I explained before that my intentions was not to belittle or
hurt anyone, but to try and bring to light all thoses who at least try and
don't get much of a fanfare. I am sure not everyone feels bad about this
considering the responses I have seen. Am I to gather that it is ok to sing
the praises of those who excel and ignore those who dare to try??

This thing happened last year and I think the year before with the list of
favorite artists. I felt it was high time some of the lesser known artists
share in the light. Even if it may be in a negative light, it will give them
an incentive to improve and join the ranks of artists who would be known.

(A chow who wants to make everyone a star for at least 15 minutes.)

Chuck Melville

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Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote in article
<6rp1ap$64o$1...@chaos.ao.net>...

> In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>, "Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com>
wrote:
> >
> >

> Which was one reason why I changed my topic from disliked artists to


artists
> who are not reconized for their work. Although some of you may find that
not
> much of a change, I explained before that my intentions was not to
belittle or
> hurt anyone, but to try and bring to light all thoses who at least try
and
> don't get much of a fanfare.

Ah. Well, that's different. The problem was in the header: there's a
whole world of difference between listing artists you think are -bad- and
artists you feel are being overlooked.

>I am sure not everyone feels bad about this
> considering the responses I have seen. Am I to gather that it is ok to
sing
> the praises of those who excel and ignore those who dare to try??

I don't have a problem with mentioning the overlooked. But I think you
greatly misunderstand the whole 'favorite furry artists' thing: it's people
listing artists whose work they personally like, not necessarily those
artists who are exceptionally good or who excel beyond all others. The two
may and do coincide quite often, but they're not mutually interchangeable.
This isn't an award show, but folks listing their favorites, and in such a
list, yes, several artists will always get left out; frankly, it can't be
helped -- there's only so much space in a post, and so many good artists.
I've tried to list just a -few- of my favorite artists, but the truth is I
like and admire a lot of good artists, and it's just darn impossible to
list -everybody-; and no matter whose praises I sing, there will always be
somebody else whose work I enjoy who will wind up getting ignored simply
for the reason that I can't mention everybody in a single breath.



> This thing happened last year and I think the year before with the list
of
> favorite artists. I felt it was high time some of the lesser known
artists
> share in the light. Even if it may be in a negative light, it will give
them
> an incentive to improve and join the ranks of artists who would be known.

Spotlighting an artist in a negative light, such as Artists Who Are Bad,
is not really a very good incentive for improvement. It's a
discouragement, and is likely to even inspire -some- artists to hang it up
and walk away from drawing at all. (I've known folks like this.) They
find it tough enough -not- to be mentioned at all, but to be mentioned in
this manner could be heartbreaking to them, and the straw that breaks the
camel's back.

phox...@my-dejanews.com

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Hmm. Top Ten Fave Furry Artiste' Types.

Wow. This is a lot like the same cliquish bullshit we dealt with in
middle school, but then again, we are doing what a lot of middle-schoolers do,
so I'm not surprised in the least bit.

But, ah, what the hell? I'll join in this little round of phallus-pleasing
merriment and cast my vote to the turgid broken-winds of foxen flatulence that
is furry fandom.

O'Keefe (she *wasn't* in Genus, fanboy...) Rob Zombie (Proud member of P.A.
*Psychoholics Anonymous*) Pushead (most of you Metalli-posers wouldn't know
who this guy was if he smacked your ass with a two-by-four...) Brute (I
don't make sense. But I've got my pride. Don't need no meaning..) Ravenwolf
(He's a *real* artist, not just a furry one, smeg head. And *no*, just
because you can "...draw anime, too!" doesn't constitute you as being one.
Try spending your soul on paper next time, you'll be surprised what you come
up with.) Sark (http://www.campsark.com) Rafferty Enid Jobe Nate The Many
Artists who've encouraged and dealt with me in constructive and honest along
the way.

No thanks to the ego-hounds that want to show me the closet from the inside
out and tell me how non-talented I am. Just for the record, and you all know
who you are, you've got no life, self-esteem, or personal hygiene.

Of course, you *don't* have to pay me any attention. I'm just some crazy
college kid trying to get into the animation program at UCF, and I don't get
along welll with furries RL. That'd make me the odd fox out. 'cest la vie I
guess! :)
_____________________________________________________________________________
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"...and if I died today, I'd be the Happy Phantom..." --Tori Amos
Big Drew "Da Phox" Vaughan
Happily Out of Middle School.

Syke

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Chuck Melville wrote in message <01bdce67$4b836ea0$LocalHost@kathleen>...

>Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote in article
><6rp1ap$64o$1...@chaos.ao.net>...
>> In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>, "Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>
>> Which was one reason why I changed my topic from disliked artists to
>artists
>> who are not reconized for their work. Although some of you may find that
>not
>> much of a change, I explained before that my intentions was not to
>belittle or
>> hurt anyone, but to try and bring to light all thoses who at least try
>and
>> don't get much of a fanfare.
>
> Ah. Well, that's different. The problem was in the header: there's a
>whole world of difference between listing artists you think are -bad- and
>artists you feel are being overlooked.
>

There, that should be a better topic, artists who need improvement and have
some talent, but just aren't quite there... and I am wording this carefully
so as not
to offend these people, because my list is full of people who are quite
popular and
friends of mine, but their artwork is lacking a bit in being uniform and
well... it just lacks
something in general that keeps it from looking professional and smooth.
In other words,
this isn't negative, more of an encouragement really.

It's artwork that I enjoy looking at and know the artist is trying and
improving on,
but isn't quite there yet. This is for artists who shouldn't give up,
because they DO
have talent. There, how's that sound?

Bobby (Although I don't think he draws anymore)
Myself (I want to be in a category!)
Candy Lewin (Trixi, who has a LOT of potential)
Dsan Tsan(An artist in other means, thinking to that beautiful scan of the
more crafty and harder
to do yarnwork, grrr, and I can't remember what it's called, but it
was gorgeous.)
Darkhorse (Nice artwork and an intriguing character)

There, that's five. I could list more... but I can't remember their NAMES!

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http://www.FurNation.com/Syke/

Black and White
http://www.FurNation.com/Syke/blawhi.html
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Dan Pankratz

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In article <35DFB54C...@hinet.spammenot.net.au>, Jim Boswell <bos...@hinet.spammenot.net.au> writes:
> Hi kids, here's my list of top-notch high-hitting extra-value
<snip>

How come noone ever mentions Mouse?

Syke

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Dan Pankratz wrote in message <6rpfub$oul$1...@crucigera.fysh.org>...

>In article <35DFB54C...@hinet.spammenot.net.au>, Jim Boswell
<bos...@hinet.spammenot.net.au> writes:
>> Hi kids, here's my list of top-notch high-hitting extra-value
><snip>
>
>How come noone ever mentions Mouse?
>

Who's this Mouse I keep hearing about anyway?

Dan Pankratz

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In article <cmZD1.224$Cj.5...@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "Syke" <Sy...@amaonline.com> writes:

> Who's this Mouse I keep hearing about anyway?

As far as I know, his art has only appeared in PawPrints and in a portfolio
called "Injected With a Poison" that Lynx has been selling at cons. He's got a
whole pile of new stuff in PawPrints #8, and Zolna has some copies of the
portfolio available on clearance (Blasphemy!). I tried to get ahold of him in
email once, but failed... anyway, he draws all sorts of kick-ass rollerbladers,
BMX'ers, surfers, DJ's, musicians, and general warm-fuzzies type couples... stuff
with a Christian bent too which is really good. Alot of the same themes which
Nate Patrin and others of that milieu are bringing to the fandom, y'know, the
young urban trip-hopper culture. Awesome.... I'd kill for a chance to buy one of
his originals.

-Dan, thinking of "Jeremy", among others

Karl Meyer

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phox...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: Pushead (most of you Metalli-posers wouldn't know

: who this guy was if he smacked your ass with a two-by-four...)

The posers may not but I have. Great artist. I first saw his work around
1983. Wish I would have bought some then. A friend at the time knew him
fairly well. I haven't seen his work since then but if he's kept at it all
these years I'd imagine it would be incredible.

Don Sanders

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In article <6rpien$p81$1...@crucigera.fysh.org>, rans...@au-au.extern.ucsd.edu (Dan Pankratz) wrote:
>In article <cmZD1.224$Cj.5...@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "Syke"
> <Sy...@amaonline.com> writes:
>
>> Who's this Mouse I keep hearing about anyway?
>
>As far as I know, his art has only appeared in PawPrints and in a portfolio
>called "Injected With a Poison" that Lynx has been selling at cons. He's got a
>whole pile of new stuff in PawPrints #8, and Zolna has some copies of the
>portfolio available on clearance (Blasphemy!). I tried to get ahold of him in
>email once, but failed... anyway, he draws all sorts of kick-ass rollerbladers,
>BMX'ers, surfers, DJ's, musicians, and general warm-fuzzies type couples...
> stuff
>with a Christian bent too which is really good. Alot of the same themes which
>Nate Patrin and others of that milieu are bringing to the fandom, y'know, the
>young urban trip-hopper culture. Awesome.... I'd kill for a chance to buy one
> of
>his originals.
>
>-Dan, thinking of "Jeremy", among others
>

Ah, there we are folks! Exactly what I have been trying to present there.
It took me a few moments to figure out who Mouse is, otherwise if the question
was not raised, nobody would know. I am sure there are others out there who
still go unnoticed. Bring them to light people, give them their 15 seconds of
fame.

I feel better now cause at last I am interacting with a thread without having
to battle flameage on a subject that is quite understandable and easy to
perform damage control on.

(A chow who is passing out Chowish Huggles.)

JadedCat

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phox...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

:: up with.) Sark (http://www.campsark.com) Rafferty _Enid_ Jobe Nate
:: Many Artists who've encouraged and dealt with me in constructive and
:: honest along the way.

Wow, that caught me by surprise :>
That made my day #-.-#

Take care!
Enid/JadedCat


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mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>,
"Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com> wrote:
>
> I am getting a little concerned over this list of disliked artists; I
purrsonally think such opinions should not be pubically aired and that the
feelings of the named artists should be respected.

Sir, you clearly do not know me.

> If others said the same things about in public, how would you react?

I have to assume you meant to include a 'you' in there, somewhere. And even
so, it's irrelevant, because I've beaten them to the punch.

> I would not publically embarass another artist whose art I did not like. Can
we please go on to another thread?

And talk about what else? This is a discussion group, yes? Maybe we can
make this constructive. But instead of anybody asking why I dislike the work
of the people I've named, I'm simply told to shut up. Ah, well.

b.root

Chuck Melville

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mok...@hotmail.com wrote in article <6rr4dl$gd$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

> In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>,
> "Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com> wrote:

> > I would not publically embarass another artist whose art I did not
like. Can
> we please go on to another thread?
>
> And talk about what else? This is a discussion group, yes? Maybe we can
> make this constructive. But instead of anybody asking why I dislike the
work
> of the people I've named, I'm simply told to shut up. Ah, well.

This may be a public discussion group, yes, but common sense dictates that
-some- conversations should be kept private or semi-private. Discussing
the fallacies of artists' work, or the -perceived- fallacies of artists'
work, in a public forum would be exceedingly tactless. There's a whole
world of difference between a -critique- and a -criticism-. It is best to
discuss them in private, whether in person, by phone, or by e-mail. If I
do critiques of another artist's work, I keep it to that level, whether
good or bad; it's nobody else's business.

On the other hand, if you want to discuss flaws and really bad art
techniques that bother you in a general fashion without naming names or
pointing fingers, that could be done, along with examples of how -you-
strive to avoid making the same errors.
But to publicly berate or deride other artists for what you consider poor
quality or sloppy techniques -- in a very public forum -- serves no real
purpose other than to antagonize others and whip up bad feelings all
around. (On a more practical note, keep in mind that you never know if
twenty years down the line you might wind up depending on one of these
people for a job; be careful of prematurely burning bridges, because some
folks have long memories.)

Don Sanders

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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In article <01bdcf30$edc78e20$LocalHost@kathleen>, "Chuck Melville" <cp...@zipcon.net> wrote:
>mok...@hotmail.com wrote in article <6rr4dl$gd$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> In article <35DF6CE7...@xta.com>,
>> "Jim Lee Jr." <pe...@xta.com> wrote:
>
>> > I would not publically embarass another artist whose art I did not
>like. Can
>> we please go on to another thread?
>>
>> And talk about what else? This is a discussion group, yes? Maybe we can
>> make this constructive. But instead of anybody asking why I dislike the
>work
>> of the people I've named, I'm simply told to shut up. Ah, well.
>
> This may be a public discussion group, yes, but common sense dictates
> that
>-some- conversations should be kept private or semi-private. Discussing
>the fallacies of artists' work, or the -perceived- fallacies of artists'
>work, in a public forum would be exceedingly tactless. There's a whole
>world of difference between a -critique- and a -criticism-. It is best to
>discuss them in private, whether in person, by phone, or by e-mail. If I
>do critiques of another artist's work, I keep it to that level, whether
>good or bad; it's nobody else's business.

Sheesh! are we back to this again? I was hoping this would be flame free, but
I guess not. Yep, a valid point was made about discussing the fallacies of
artists work in a public forum may be tactless and in bad form. But would you
consider the orginal post being the same way? If it is harmful to mention and
name artists who don't make the cut in public, then mentioning artists who
have gotten good and excelled should be considered in this. You can't have
one without the other. I guess the worry here is real negative feedback here,
fragile egos, and such. Gee, why not ban Sickel and Eggbert from the airways,
Thumbs up and Thumbs down could be considered the same thing, no?

>
> On the other hand, if you want to discuss flaws and really bad art
>techniques that bother you in a general fashion without naming names or
>pointing fingers, that could be done, along with examples of how -you-
>strive to avoid making the same errors.
> But to publicly berate or deride other artists for what you consider
> poor
>quality or sloppy techniques -- in a very public forum -- serves no real
>purpose other than to antagonize others and whip up bad feelings all
>around. (On a more practical note, keep in mind that you never know if
>twenty years down the line you might wind up depending on one of these
>people for a job; be careful of prematurely burning bridges, because some
>folks have long memories.)
>
>

I don't know about that, I felt the urge to improve for the sake of showing
them I can. It seems those who are striving to make the art biz their
liveyhood would be affected by this. Perhaps it would be best not to even
come up with the idea of Favorite Artists just for the sake of not having
Artists who don't meaure up follow suit. Heck! I know I don't measure up but
really I don't really care, I've been given worse treatment and still
survive.

Ok, I guess for the sake of making some folks happy and such things like that,
I advice all to continue with the Favorite Artists Thread and totally drop the
Thread about artists who don't deserve mention.

(one chow who crawls back under the rug of obscurity(sp?))

Koschei

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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Nate Patrin <n8r...@pioneerplanet.infi.spammers.smoke.crack.net> wrote:
[...]
> 1) Charla "Squee Rat" Trotman

Yes! Yes, yes, affirmative, indeedy, you bet'cha, damn straight. That
distinctive style. The *life* of those drawings (ready to start moving on
the damned page). The *characters* (Kohhhhhh-be!)! The woman can not
only draw, but she can *write*. Not to mention put up a damned cool web
page.

:)

-- Koschei

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mok...@hotmail.com

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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In article <6rs4h5$s1d$1...@chaos.ao.net>,

noo...@myemail.com (Don Sanders) wrote:
> Ok, I guess for the sake of making some folks happy and such things like that,
> I advice all to continue with the Favorite Artists Thread and totally drop the
> Thread about artists who don't deserve mention.

Excellent idea. No Speech except for Approved Speech.

Timothy Fay

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci wrote:
>
> Tom Verre (likely the best true artist who's been throught the fandom)

Couldn't agree more. The same is true for Leah Verre, though I don't
think she considers herself strictly a "furry" artist, I still don't
see enough of her work these days.

My "favorites" are always in flux; you probably wouldn't get the same
list from me on any given day. However, there are a few whose works
are consistently good and/or entertaining: The Carspeckens, Ken
Singshow (his NIMH drawings and his "DefCon" drawing of Stinken and
his rat friend -- I laugh every time I see that one), Sondra Roy
(who does morbidly humorous and beautifully rendered art like "True
Love" [I think that's the title] along with great characters like
Mort the dog and Trashi Vixen), the Heathers -- Riesen and Kendrick,
Shelly Pleger (who does all that marvelous CATS DON'T DANCE fan art),
Comrade Blumrich, "Loam," Jay Kennedy... Heck, just about anyone
reading this who has posted art to Avatar or Rat.org has gotten on
my list at least one time or another.

-Tim
--
"Hey, ho -- let's go!" -Ramones

oCeLoT

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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My turn! Perhaps I'm picking up this thread rather late, but I just
yesterday got the newsreader reinstalled... anyway, here's my list of
artists whose work I find to be asthetically pleasing, humourous, witty,
well-developed in style and/or technically sound. Read: eye candy.

Al Mackey
Amy Pronovost (Amara)
Andrew Powell
Chris Goodwin (Paf)
David Steele
Daniel Fox (WhiteFox)
Eric Blumrich
Evan Butler (Rhodin)
Eugene Arenhaus (Chipmunk)
Monika Livingstone
Matt Harpold (Turbine Divinity)
Nami Jarett (Omega Red)
Paul Defenbaugh (Ravenscroft)
Sarah Wheeler (Noelani Manawolf)
Sonny Windstrup (Kobus)

...

Um, I know there are many more. I just can't remember them all right now. :)

--oCeLoT

Wanderer

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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Chuck Melville wrote in message <01bdce5b$67f1fd60$LocalHost@kathleen>...
(snip)

> While it's true that quite a few folks chose the same artists as
>favorites, quite a few others (including myself) chose artists -not-
>mentioned as a consensus.
(snip)
And *some* of us made no statement ... fur the simple reason that we have
too small a sample of the art out there to possibly make an informed
decision (and we know it!).

Yours truly,

The off-in-the-netherworld,

(well, it's hot enough)

Wanderer**wand...@applink.net
Where am I going?I don't quite know.
What does it matter where people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow.
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I*don't know!

Chuck Melville

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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Don Sanders <noo...@myemail.com> wrote in article
<6rs4h5$s1d$1...@chaos.ao.net>...

> Sheesh! are we back to this again? I was hoping this would be flame
free, but
> I guess not. Yep, a valid point was made about discussing the fallacies
of
> artists work in a public forum may be tactless and in bad form. But
would you
> consider the orginal post being the same way? If it is harmful to
mention and
> name artists who don't make the cut in public, then mentioning artists
who
> have gotten good and excelled should be considered in this. You can't
have
> one without the other. I guess the worry here is real negative feedback
here,
> fragile egos, and such. Gee, why not ban Sickel and Eggbert from the
airways,
> Thumbs up and Thumbs down could be considered the same thing, no?

No flames offered, Don; just sensible advice. There's no harm in
mentioning artists who have -improved-; that's not quite the same things as
saying "this person's art stinks". But just digging in with a list of
'bad' artists probably -will- result in a massive flame war. There's also
the matter that not everybody is going to agree with what constitutes 'bad'
art; that's something I prefer to leave in the judgement of the more
experienced artists than to the readership of AFF at large.
Siskel and Ebert are professional critics with a very keen understanding
of the medium they critique; they've been doing it, singly and together,
for a few decades now, and know -how- to critique. And you'll note that
even -they- aren't in agreement much of the time.


> I don't know about that, I felt the urge to improve for the sake of
showing
> them I can. It seems those who are striving to make the art biz their
> liveyhood would be affected by this. Perhaps it would be best not to
even
> come up with the idea of Favorite Artists just for the sake of not having

> Artists who don't meaure up follow suit. Heck! I know I don't measure
up but
> really I don't really care, I've been given worse treatment and still
> survive.

The Favorite Artist poll shouldn't ever be mistaken for a Best Artist
poll; the two are -not- necessarily interchangeable. Not making it on a
Favorites list doesn't mean that an artist is in any way deficient; he's
just not a favorite.



> Ok, I guess for the sake of making some folks happy and such things like
that,
> I advice all to continue with the Favorite Artists Thread and totally
drop the
> Thread about artists who don't deserve mention.

Why? If there's artists you feel that deserve to be mentioned, then by
all means mention them. You can do that without making a list of 'bad'
artists.

Dan Pankratz

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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In article <35E1D6...@tc.umn.edu>, Timothy Fay <fayxx001@delete..this..maroon.tc.umn.edu> writes:

> Shelly Pleger (who does all that marvelous CATS DON'T DANCE fan art),

Ayyy-men! That little story of hers what appeared in HUZZAH! #30 blew me away...
/so/ well executed I thought it came from the freakin' studio, and man, is she
subtle when it comes to sentimentality. If this were a short, it'd be a
heartbreaker... but then again, I'm a sentimental fool. :)

She had a url but I just tried it and it don't work no more.

-Dan

Timothy Fay

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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Dan Pankratz wrote:
>
> In article <35E1D6...@tc.umn.edu>, Timothy Fay <fayxx001@delete..this..maroon.tc.umn.edu> writes:
>
> > Shelly Pleger (who does all that marvelous CATS DON'T DANCE fan art),
>
> Ayyy-men! That little story of hers what appeared in HUZZAH! #30 blew me away...
>
> She had a url but I just tried it and it don't work no more.

Her site address has changed. Try:

http://www.teleport.com/~tpleger/CDD/

--
"Bowl a strike, not a spare -- revolution everywhere!" -RABL motto

Tiernan

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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On 21 Aug 1998 05:05:38 GMT, "Bob \"Rac Cooney\" Nelson"
<RACC...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>for me:
>Joe Ekaitis,for his funny giant furries
>Digo Raccoon
>Gene Catlow
>Scott Arsenault
>G. Raymond Eddy
>Mike Sagara(Hey Neeters,Shanda)
>Mike Kazelah
>and some of the newer Yerfers,like Sarnia Hudson(I
>think that's her name?) and Doodles.
>
>Bob "Rac Cooney" Nelson
>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/8195

Ok... Admittedly my experience is limited, but I have enjoyed
enormously the art out of all the artists who'd drawn for SFA.
However I do want to mention one standout ....

Ted Vollmer. Had the pleasure of sitting with him at AAC and watching
him draw ... DEFINITELY one of my favorite things about AAC. This guy
is GOOD. (And Ted ... I know you're going to think I posted this just
to make you feel good, and I did post it to make you feel good but you
deserve to have it said because it also happens to be the TRUTH .. as
you also know ;) because I've told you many many times :) :).
*kittyfae snuggles*

Tiernan

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Mark Freid

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mok...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6ri60f$9ik$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <199808201728...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> redo...@aol.com (REDOXEN8) wrote:
>> I looking to see who is all of your furs favorite furry artist, I thought
it
>> might be fun to know
>> So, who is all of your favorite furry artists?


My favorite Furry artists eh?

well, here's all the ones that I could think of off the top of my head. (in
Alphabetical order, by last name)
Now, like I said these were the only ones I could think of off hand... I'm
sure I forgot a few.

Anderson, Freddy
Arenhaus, Eugene
Arnorrson, Kjartan
Aronen, Karii
Arsenault, Scotty
Bartrop, Richard
Bednar, Peter
Beiro, Mitch
Berdoz, Chris
Bernal, Jeremy
Blumrich, Eric
Bolton, John
Boulton, John
Brown, Darrin
Bruton, Heather
Burchill, Bonnie
Canal, Ollie
Carspecken, Margaret & Robert
Chin, Jimmy
Cook-Whitmore, Genesis Eve
Corbett, Steve
Cotlessa, David
Davies, Chuck
Defenbaugh, Paul
Drake, Melissa
Earle, Malcolm
Elliot, Eric
Engel, Baron
Faust, Will
Fay, Tim
Findlayson, Oscar
Fisher, Shane
Flahive, Dan
Foley, Richard
Gallacci, Steve
Gault, Michelle
Gembeck, Frank
Gibson, Roz
Gladden, Stephanie
Graf, Tygger
Greywolf (Peacock), Jordan
Groat, Jim
Groter, Abe
Haas, Ashtoreth
Hanson, Christina (Smudge)
Hanson-Roberts, Mary
Hardiman, James
Harlan-Stein, Diana
Harp, Brian
Hayden, Jim
Heinonen, Andre
Hernandez, Richard
Higgs, Michael
Hilton, Craig
Ho, Garret
Holbrook, Bill
Holiday, Robert
Howard, Shawntae
Howell, Shon
Ignacio, Rommel Karlo C.
Jennings, Lisa
Jirenius, Samuel
Johnson, Tim
Jones, Al
Jones, Charles M.
Kazaleh, Mike
Kazaleh, Tracy
Keller, Shawn
Kelley, Pat
Kelley, Walt
Kennedy, J.W.
Kidd, Jeremy
Kleifoth, Karena
Kuelbs, Bill
Kuhn, Dave
Kuprijanow, Lisa
Lage, Daphne
Light, Michelle
Livingstone, Monika
Mackey, Alan
McAdam, Marci
McKinley, Chris
McMurray, Michael-Scot
Melville, Chuck
Middendorf, Erin
Milliorn, Tom
Morrissey, Phil
Mulder, Kevin
Naylor, Jay
Norton, Dean
Nunnemacher, John
Ny, Joe
O’Connell, Brian
Olinyk, Michael
Palmer, Sara
Perry, Fred
Petrie, Margaret
Pick, Ken
Pounds, Roy
Powell, Andrew
Pronovost, Amy
Purcell, Steve
Raabe, Mike
Reynolds, Brian
Riesen, Heather
Rigdon, Sky
Rodriguez, Ruben (Rags)
Rosales, Joe
Roy, Sondra
Ruggels, Scott
Sagara, Mike
Sakai, Stan
Sample, Ken
Schlarmann, Alex
Schmickle, Bill
Schwartz, Eric
Seago, Ainsley
Shell, Jay
Sheppard, Ted
Simon, Paul
Simpson, Rain
Singshow, Ken
Smith, Terrie
Stanley, Mark
Steele, David
Sutherland, Todd
Sutton, Brian
Telgemeir, Amara
Temple, Albert
Thomas, Meike
Trotman, Carla
Van Camp, Susan
Vick, Diana
Wagner, Traci
Wang, Bryan
Wayne, Taral
Whalen, Chris
Wheeler, Sara
White, Mel.
Whitley, Deal
Wilcken, Kurt
Wilkinson, Sandi
Willard, Jessica
Windstrup, Sonny
Wong, Conrad
Wyman, Vicky
Yaffe, Chad
Yune, Tommy
Ziolkowski, Tom


*whew*!!!

Mark

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Sep 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/1/98
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In article <LRIG1.3082$EF3.15...@cmnws01.we.mediaone.net>,

Wow! NOw that's impressive. Add yourself to the list and it's almost
complete. -- Ebony Leopard

Mark Freid

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how...@hotmail.com wrote in message

>Wow! NOw that's impressive. Add yourself to the list and it's almost
>complete. -- Ebony Leopard


Tee Hee. thanks.
But, I'm not one of my own favorite artists :P

Mark Freid
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