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Tamar
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Razor
they may leave it on till begining the autopsy so as not to disturbe too
much.
Paul
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Tamar
found, "That's what you get for eating..." I actually had to stop for a
minute and think about it then busted out laughing when it hit me. This is
very funny, and I like the doctor guy that's running the autopsy. This is
actually the first time I've sat down and watched CSI (since in the past
some sports event was usually on tv so I watched that instead.) I may have
to start watching this show every week.
Tamar
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Tamar
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Razor
accurate. I think i will have to watch the show more often. And as much as
people we afraid this would be a horribly bad thing, I find the episode
entertaining. Its intersting to see a point of view that finds the furs
interesting and the other as odd, as I would expect most people to be.news:vq3igr1...@corp.supernews.com...
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Razor
sorry.
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Tamar
threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
gets hit by a car. MAN!
May that be a lesson to all you fursuiters. Never EVER get out of a car at
night on a highway.
Tamar
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Tamar
> Same here, both entertaining and as far as the police work goes pretty
> accurate. I think i will have to watch the show more often. And as much
as
> people we afraid this would be a horribly bad thing, I find the episode
> entertaining. Its intersting to see a point of view that finds the furs
> interesting and the other as odd, as I would expect most people to be.
Yeah, was it just me or did the one guy investigator seem to be having a
ball doing the investigation?
And I'll tell you this. For single episode show, I was actually pretty darn
surprised at how well those fursuits actually were. I mean, they didn't just
run to the store it seemed and grabbed any ol' mascot outfit. (Though some
here and there was lame, I found the lecture to be the most over the top.
I've never seen anybody that organized sounding giving a lecture in such a
serious way).
I thought it was pretty well balanced. They showed the nuts but also made it
a point that it was just fun and games for some folks. Snicker, though I
don't think I'll ever be able to think about a fursuiter at a con the same
again without laughing a bit.
Razor
elike he thought it was something that was neat and interesting.
FuzzWolf
>
> Yeah, was it just me or did the one guy investigator seem to be having a
> ball doing the investigation?
For me that was the best part. He's my favourite character and being that
open minded and curious is what I've come to expect from him.
>
> And I'll tell you this. For single episode show, I was actually pretty
darn
> surprised at how well those fursuits actually were. I mean, they didn't
just
> run to the store it seemed and grabbed any ol' mascot outfit. (Though some
> here and there was lame, I found the lecture to be the most over the top.
> I've never seen anybody that organized sounding giving a lecture in such a
> serious way).
The reason some of the suits look very well done is most of the people in
the con scenes are real furs. One fur was a technical advisor on the show,
he's made mention of it in his livejournal. Most of them are from the SoCal
area, I believe.
>
> I thought it was pretty well balanced. They showed the nuts but also made
it
> a point that it was just fun and games for some folks. Snicker, though I
> don't think I'll ever be able to think about a fursuiter at a con the same
> again without laughing a bit.
Yeah, I agree. Good balance there. Katherine's freaked out reaction vs.
Grissom's fascinated one made it really neat to watch.
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MHirtes
"Tamar" <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
> threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
> gets hit by a car. MAN!
>
"'Twas Bubba that killed the beast."
He died as he lived.........alone and on all fours.
DishRoom1
>LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
>threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
>gets hit by a car. MAN!
>
>May that be a lesson to all you fursuiters. Never EVER get out of a car at
>night on a highway.
Especailly when still in costume.
John Shughart
DishRoom1
Tamar wrote --
>> LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
>> threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
>> gets hit by a car. MAN!
>>
>
>"'Twas Bubba that killed the beast."
>
>He died as he lived.........alone and on all fours.
Kind of like your manhood, Mike.
John shughart
Darkmatter Studio
>He died as he lived.........alone and on all fours.
Hey, sounds like your own future demise....though, we both know you wont be on
all fours. Soon as you attempt to pop outta the indentation in your chair, the
sheer weight of yer gut will crush those unused legs of yours. :)
-MC
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DishRoom1
>Paf con? Wasn't Paf a guy that had a porcupine for an avatar?
>
Maybe so. The show may have gotten it from the furries working on the show with
them.
John Shughart
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> LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
> threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
> gets hit by a car. MAN!
But damn he must have had a long tongue to be able to lick another fursuiter
with that raccoon head on. He sure was devoted to his hobby though. I don't
know many suiters who'd have kept their heads on while puking if they
possibly could have gotten them off.
MHirtes
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> >From: dish...@aol.com (DishRoom1)
>
> >Tamar wrote --
> >
> >>LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
> >>threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then he
> >>gets hit by a car. MAN!
> >>
> >>May that be a lesson to all you fursuiters. Never EVER get out of a car at
> >>night on a highway.
> >
> >Especailly when still in costume.
>
> So... who has a link to that sign they put up once in Camp Feral?
>
CYD. :)
MHirtes
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Let's hope that's ALL they got from the furries.
Wanderer
> LOL! Yiffing! BWAHAHAHA! Furpile? Never head of that one before.
>
If you're serious, you're one of the few.;) I'm just happy that they got
the definitions of "skritch" and "yiff" straight.
Um... well, you know what I mean.;)
Yours wolfishly,
The non-sequiturial,
Wanderer
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:12:25 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> LOL, would they really leave the guy in his costume? 9:12 (six foot condum).
That's the first time I've ever heard of a latex liner in a
fursuit...hell, a cotton liner gets bloody uncomfortable after a while
just walking around...
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:34:11 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> Good point. Heh, the line where they talk about the trace evidence they
> found, "That's what you get for eating..." I actually had to stop for a
> minute and think about it then busted out laughing when it hit me. This is
> very funny, and I like the doctor guy that's running the autopsy. This is
> actually the first time I've sat down and watched CSI (since in the past
> some sports event was usually on tv so I watched that instead.) I may have
> to start watching this show every week.
Wait, the ranger walks away without charges when they could so make
criminally negligent homicide stick?
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:08 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> Yeah, was it just me or did the one guy investigator seem to be having a
> ball doing the investigation?
He seemed to be getting into it, indeed.
> And I'll tell you this. For single episode show, I was actually pretty darn
> surprised at how well those fursuits actually were. I mean, they didn't just
> run to the store it seemed and grabbed any ol' mascot outfit.
The raccoon was from Marylens (though without the latex liner, that
was something they did...). The person who designed that costume (and
many others) for Marylens has informed Marylens that he won't be doing
that for them anymore, or buying from them anymore (he was a good
customer of theirs as well). Apparently Marylens lied to him about
how the suit would be used in the episode of CSI.
> I thought it was pretty well balanced. They showed the nuts but also made it
> a point that it was just fun and games for some folks. Snicker, though I
> don't think I'll ever be able to think about a fursuiter at a con the same
> again without laughing a bit.
It was rather more sex and fursuit heavy, the convention in
particular. Take a look at the schedule if you can freezeframe it,
it's pretty damn outlandish as well.
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:00:06 -0500, FuzzWolf <fuzz...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Yeah, was it just me or did the one guy investigator seem to be having a
>> ball doing the investigation?
>
> For me that was the best part. He's my favourite character and being that
> open minded and curious is what I've come to expect from him.
My favorite character from that episode would have to be the guy doing
the paint analysis. "I stopped trying to figure out why people do
what they do long ago." I strongly suspect he has "Technical Support
Representative" somewhere on his resume.
> The reason some of the suits look very well done is most of the people in
> the con scenes are real furs. One fur was a technical advisor on the show,
> he's made mention of it in his livejournal. Most of them are from the SoCal
> area, I believe.
You'd think they could have helped them get it right.
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The 31 Oct 2003 04:18:20 GMT, Darkmatter Studio <furo...@aol.communist> wrote:
> Hey, sounds like your own future demise....though, we both know you
> wont be on all fours. Soon as you attempt to pop outta the
> indentation in your chair, the sheer weight of yer gut will crush
> those unused legs of yours. :)
Actually, I kinda figured hirtes would go out more like Elvis: Keeled
over the can. Except nobody would sit him upright on the can afterwards.
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The 31 Oct 2003 04:15:44 GMT, DishRoom1 <dish...@aol.com> wrote:
>>May that be a lesson to all you fursuiters. Never EVER get out of a car at
>>night on a highway.
>
> Especailly when still in costume.
I think that was implied.
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:58:43 -0600, Karl Meyer <fer...@rcn.com> wrote:
> But damn he must have had a long tongue to be able to lick another fursuiter
> with that raccoon head on. He sure was devoted to his hobby though. I don't
> know many suiters who'd have kept their heads on while puking if they
> possibly could have gotten them off.
Yeah, seems like the smell of puking in your head would make you puke
again...
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The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:18:02 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> Paf con? Wasn't Paf a guy that had a porcupine for an avatar?
Actually, first thing I thought was a guy I know whose last name was
Paff.
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> The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:12:25 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> > LOL, would they really leave the guy in his costume? 9:12 (six foot
condum).
>
> That's the first time I've ever heard of a latex liner in a
> fursuit...hell, a cotton liner gets bloody uncomfortable after a while
> just walking around...
>
<rolls eyes> Don't remind me... and I don't have a real fursuit, just a
"Bear in the Big Blue House" costume fur Halloween (there were *no* good
werewolf costumes that year...). Just based on that and my Haunted Verdun
Manor experience, I'd expect a fursuiter in a latex-lined suit to last maybe
five, ten minutes tops.
Yours heatedly,;)
The wolfish,
O...@furrymuck.notreally.com
That was a big hole in their investigation, alrighty. Obviously, their
reconstruction of events was flawed, and it would be kind of fun
to come up with an alternative interpretation of the evidence that
accounts for such things. Guess I'm more of a mystery-story geek
than I thought.
It is also dubious that our poor victim could get shot (from across
the road at night; I'm impressed) through the suit (was there an exit
wound? This was a reasonably high-powered weapon, yes?) and yet
leave not one drop of blood at the scene. The writers didn't think
this stuff all the way through.
Mike and Carole
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> In article <vq3jv6q...@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Tamar" <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
>
> > LOL! He was mistaken as a coyote! I mean, dang! Take about your triple
> > threat of a night. First the guy gets drugged. Then he gets shot, then
he
> > gets hit by a car. MAN!
> >
>
> "'Twas Bubba that killed the beast."
>
You know, Mike, that remark was pretty funny. Even Carole laughed.
Mike
iBuck
>criminally negligent homicide stick?
What exactally was negligent? I mean the one in a billion chance of spotting
someone crawling around in an -animal- costume on the side of a western higway
raise pleanty of reasonable doubt on a negligence charge..
"You can have it Quickly,Correct, Complex - Pick 2"
Samantha Ann Patterson
You know. Hirtes really isn't performing up to par. I mean the guy that
shot the furry was a puppy breeder.
Why not run this scenerio? After being ditched from the car, he thumbed a
hitch with the farmer, who took him up to his house to make a phone call,
on finding all the puppies, he went on a mad humping spree. The guy caught
him in the act and went chasing after him, he ran out into the road and was
hit by the truck, then the rancher shot him to make sure he was dead, and
that's why there was very little blood at the scene from the bullet wound.
the dead don't bleed.
Why do you guys respond to Hirtes' flame posts anyhow? He isn't even a
GOOD troll. :p
Mike and Carole
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> The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:34:11 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> > Good point. Heh, the line where they talk about the trace evidence they
> > found, "That's what you get for eating..." I actually had to stop for a
> > minute and think about it then busted out laughing when it hit me. This
is
> > very funny, and I like the doctor guy that's running the autopsy. This
is
> > actually the first time I've sat down and watched CSI (since in the past
> > some sports event was usually on tv so I watched that instead.) I may
have
> > to start watching this show every week.
>
> Wait, the ranger walks away without charges when they could so make
> criminally negligent homicide stick?
>
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They cut the ranger some slack since he was tired of chasing Yogi Bear
stealing those pic-a-nic baskets.
Mike
DishRoom1
>It is also dubious that our poor victim could get shot (from across
>the road at night; I'm impressed) through the suit (was there an exit
>wound? This was a reasonably high-powered weapon, yes?) and yet
>leave not one drop of blood at the scene. The writers didn't think
>this stuff all the way through.
Good point. In the flashback sequence where someone Rocky was shot near the
end, there was shown a close-up of the bullet hitting the ground after
persumablly going through his torso.... and yet you have this "condom-like"
suit that can seal in a lot of the blood rather than having some of the blood
splat on the dirt.
John Shughart
Keeshah
>
> "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursine.ca> wrote in message
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> > The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:12:25 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> > > LOL, would they really leave the guy in his costume? 9:12 (six foot
> condum).
> >
> > That's the first time I've ever heard of a latex liner in a
> > fursuit...hell, a cotton liner gets bloody uncomfortable after a while
> > just walking around...
> >
>
> <rolls eyes> Don't remind me... and I don't have a real fursuit, just a
> "Bear in the Big Blue House" costume fur Halloween (there were *no* good
> werewolf costumes that year...). Just based on that and my Haunted Verdun
> Manor experience, I'd expect a fursuiter in a latex-lined suit to last maybe
> five, ten minutes tops.
>
> Yours heatedly,;)
Paul Johnson
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The 31 Oct 2003 15:59:25 GMT, iBuck <lncra...@aol.com.star> wrote:
> What exactally was negligent? I mean the one in a billion chance of
> spotting someone crawling around in an -animal- costume on the side
> of a western higway raise pleanty of reasonable doubt on a
> negligence charge..
He clearly had no idea what he was shooting at. Responsible people
don't go outside shooting everything their dogs bark at, especially
without knowing exactly what they're shooting at. What an impatient
people we have become when nobody sees something wrong with an idiot
shooting blindly into the dark without even bothering to get a
flashlight and positively identifying his target first.
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> In article <vq3jv6q...@corp.supernews.com>,
> "'Twas Bubba that killed the beast."
Damn, you're dense. The redneck ranger didn't kill him. Go watch the
episode again, they actually say how it happened.
Tamar
Boy, that also makes me wonder just how interesting fursuit parties get at
cons now. Heh.
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Tamar
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Luke Allen
> Depends, if they were still looking of rphysicla eveidence on the costume
> they may leave it on till begining the autopsy so as not to disturbe too
> much.
Y'know, I winced when I saw them cutting upen that fursuit. It was a
piece of art. (Well, a piece of CBS costume department art, but
still. I wonder who gets all the fursuits they created for that
episode? How about a charity auction at the next Anthrocon?)
Four things they got wrong in this episode:
1. Too many women.
2. Too many full fursuits, worn throughout the con; not enough
tail-and-ears budget fursuits, and NO badges or artwork!
3. What's a furpile?
4. The entire con would have ground to a halt as soon as word of
Rocky and Linda's deaths got around. The entire con would have been
at a memorial service in their honor, especially once the story came
out. The wolf (TYPECASTING!) would forever be a pariah, and the
"mistaken for a coyote" story would have been passed around the
newsgroups for years.
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BlueNight
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> MHirtes
> wrote:
>> "'Twas Bubba that killed the beast."
>
> Damn, you're dense. The redneck ranger didn't kill him. Go watch the
> episode again, they actually say how it happened.
"'twas BUICK killed the beast."
freddy1X
> The Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:08 -0500, Tamar <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> > And I'll tell you this. For single episode show, I was actually pretty darn
> > surprised at how well those fursuits actually were. I mean, they didn't just
> > run to the store it seemed and grabbed any ol' mascot outfit.
>
> The raccoon was from Marylens (though without the latex liner, that
> was something they did...). The person who designed that costume (and
> many others) for Marylens has informed Marylens that he won't be doing
> that for them anymore, or buying from them anymore (he was a good
> customer of theirs as well). Apparently Marylens lied to him about
> how the suit would be used in the episode of CSI.
For Sale:
One 6 foot Raccoon fursuit, used once. Has two holes and a large slash
along one side, some theatrical blood & spooge staining. Head may need
laundering.
>
> > I thought it was pretty well balanced. They showed the nuts but also made it
> > a point that it was just fun and games for some folks. Snicker, though I
> > don't think I'll ever be able to think about a fursuiter at a con the same
> > again without laughing a bit.
What was that comment the wolf made about raccoons? "Marsupial
wanna-be"
( Everybody knows that r'coon are bear wanna-be's )
>
> It was rather more sex and fursuit heavy, the convention in
> particular. Take a look at the schedule if you can freezeframe it,
> it's pretty damn outlandish as well.
>
The schedule, for those who did not record( shame on you, if you didn't!
)
SPOILER!
SPOLIER!
SPOILER!
SPOLIER!
PAF
CON
Plushies & Furries
Schedule
9:00A.M. Breakfast & Orientation
10:30A.M. Lecture #1
*Doe eyes: innovative
techniques in looking
for love
11:45A.M. Furry raffle( main lobby )
12:00P.M. Lecture #2
*Fur-ever young
1:00P.M. Banquet lunch( Banquet hall )
3:30P.M. Lecture #3
*laws and effect: A look
at the legal issues regarding
fur in the work place
4:45P.M. Vinyards & vendors
7:30P.M. Banquet dinner( Banquet hall )
9:30P.M. Pile-on-party( Main lounge )
( seems like a rather thin schedule for an all weekend event. )
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freddy1X
There were a few other things that come to mind: some plot holes, some
cheesy production
( A-hem )
( assumes Simpsons comic-book reading nerd #3 voice )
The pawprints on the pavement look just like that: prints( or painted
stencles ). Not to mention that a 'suit is unlikely to use anatomically
correct foot-paws.
During all of the commotion( ralphing, shooting, bashing ) he never
looses his head( sic ). That raccoon is one cool dude!
I thought it was odd that there were 8 x 10 glossies for sale one one of
the dealers tables. Art works maybe, but I've never seen photographs of
that caliber.
They only found ONE bullet along the road!!? There must be a serious
shortage of rednecks in Los Vegas.
( Does ahyone know when the next PAF-CON is scheduled? )
On a different note, didn't anyone else notice the furry-like
commercials that ran along with the episode?
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DishRoom1
I wrote --
>>
>> Ogg wrote --
>>
>> >It is also dubious that our poor victim could get shot (from across
>> >the road at night; I'm impressed) through the suit (was there an exit
>> >wound? This was a reasonably high-powered weapon, yes?) and yet
>> >leave not one drop of blood at the scene. The writers didn't think
>> >this stuff all the way through.
>>
>> Good point. In the flashback sequence where someone Rocky was shot near the
>> end, there was shown a close-up of the bullet hitting the ground after
>> persumablly going through his torso.... and yet you have this "condom-like"
>> suit that can seal in a lot of the blood rather than having some of the
>blood
>> splat on the dirt.
>>
>> John Shughart
>
>There were a few other things that come to mind: some plot holes, some
>cheesy production
>
>
>( A-hem )
>( assumes Simpsons comic-book reading nerd #3 voice )
>
>The pawprints on the pavement look just like that: prints( or painted
>stencles ). Not to mention that a 'suit is unlikely to use anatomically
>correct foot-paws.
Kind of hard to pick things up with animal paws that are too real.
>
>During all of the commotion( ralphing, shooting, bashing ) he never
>looses his head( sic ). That raccoon is one cool dude!
And yet when they unmasked him, the racooon head comes off easily.
>
>I thought it was odd that there were 8 x 10 glossies for sale one one of
>the dealers tables. Art works maybe, but I've never seen photographs of
>that caliber.
>
>They only found ONE bullet along the road!!? There must be a serious
>shortage of rednecks in Los Vegas.
>
>
>( Does ahyone know when the next PAF-CON is scheduled? )
>
>
>On a different note, didn't anyone else notice the furry-like
>commercials that ran along with the episode?
I noticed that, too, but then forgot about mentioning them in the heat of
writing about this episode itself.
On comerical was a Sprint photo-cel phone ad with the Looneytunes in it,
apperently to tie in with "Looneytunes: Back In Action" (I was watching "CSI"
with my parents and my dad laughed out histerically at the reaction Porky had
over the dynomite blown-up Daffy), and another was of Toys R' Us, the hilarious
ad with Geffeory in a hot-air balloon.
All the while, I found it ironic that ads featuring animated furry-type
critters were shown between breaks of a fictional show that more focused to the
fursuiters and fursuit sexers, but no furry cartoons, art, ect.
John Shughart
DishRoom1
>Paul Johnson wrote:
Tamar wrote --
What? No puppet shows, art acutions, or ever a "How to draw Artica Fox"?
(pardon the clever dig, Tamar. ^_^)
John Shughart
Wanderer
> I am serious. Does it really mean what they showed on the show?
Yes... thanks, no doubt, to a certain technical advisor.:) "Skritch" is
just, as "Sexy Kitty" put it, "friendly scratching"... nothing more intense
than grooming action, as a rule. "Yiff", of course, is more intense.;)
>
> Boy, that also makes me wonder just how interesting fursuit parties get at
> cons now. Heh.
>
<chuckle> Not very. While I've heard of people who have fursuit sex (and
even known one guy with a... ahem... functional 'suit), it's not the sort of
thing fur orgies and such... the blasted things are just too stifling hot
inside. I mean, my Halloween costume is a "Bear in the Big Blue House"
suit. No lining, open face, large open places at the hands and feet, and I
*still* look like I've been swimming in my own sweat by the time I'm done.
Fursuit *skritching* is a lot more common... and a great tactile
experience.;)
Yours with a talent fur massage,
The gentle-pawed,
Wanderer
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> "Razor" <psa...@execpc.com> wrote in message
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> > Depends, if they were still looking of rphysicla eveidence on the
costume
> > they may leave it on till begining the autopsy so as not to disturbe too
> > much.
>
> Y'know, I winced when I saw them cutting upen that fursuit. It was a
> piece of art. (Well, a piece of CBS costume department art, but
> still. I wonder who gets all the fursuits they created for that
> episode? How about a charity auction at the next Anthrocon?)
Actually, they farmed out the fursuit work to Marylen:
Of the raccoon fursuits, one was torn apart in the autopsy scene, one was
torn apart in the reconstruction scenes, and one was used for the pictures
and flashbacks... only the last is in any condition fur re-use.
>
> Four things they got wrong in this episode:
>
> 1. Too many women.
Har, har. There were quite a few femme furs at MFM, thank you.:>
> 2. Too many full fursuits, worn throughout the con; not enough
> tail-and-ears budget fursuits, and NO badges or artwork!
Well, there *were* quite a few tail-and-ears people in the lecture... even
the lecturer just had an earhood. And Mother spotted several in the crowd
scene.
> 3. What's a furpile?
Any horizontal collection of furs. It can be used in reference to a group
on an overloaded piece of furniture ("Just crash in the furpile on the
couch."), a bunch of furs on the floor ("The furpile? They're playing
Trivial Pursuit."), or any other group of horizontal furries. (Technically,
what appeared on C.S.I. was a variant of a "yiffpile", itself a variant of a
"skritchpile".)
> 4. The entire con would have ground to a halt as soon as word of
> Rocky and Linda's deaths got around.
Keep in mind that nobody at the con (other than the wolf) had seen "Rocky"
without his head on. This all takes place *before* any news gets around.
> The entire con would have been
> at a memorial service in their honor, especially once the story came
> out.
Again, this obviously wasn't a usual thing for Rocky... nobody had seen him
sans 'suit. The memorial service would've been small.
> The wolf (TYPECASTING!) would forever be a pariah, and the
> "mistaken for a coyote" story would have been passed around the
> newsgroups for years.
>
Remember, the wolf didn't kill him... just slipped him some ipecac through
his yiffpartner's 'suit, making him sick. It was the combination of a
puppy-breeder's rifle shot and an impact from Linda Lamb's car that did him
in. The wolf would more likely be on the "suspicious" list fur a few years,
then slowly reintegrate. (Remember, Rocky *was* sleeping around on Linda.)
Yours with an eye to detail,
The wolfish,
(Hiya, BlueNight!)
Wanderer
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> I think that line was subposed to be a spandex-lined suit.
I don't think so... remember Sidle's line about, "This isn't a costume.
It's a six-foot condom"? Doesn't make much sense unless the lining is some
kind of plastic, which brings us back to having him die of heatstroke before
the car ever turns around.
Yours wolfishly,
The overheated,;)
Silver Seams
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> The pawprints on the pavement look just like that: prints( or painted
> stencles ). Not to mention that a 'suit is unlikely to use anatomically
> correct foot-paws.
Well, now, that depends on who made it.
(I can't say as mind come with self-inking pads, though...)
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Kay Shapero
dish...@aol.com says...
> Tamar wrote --
>
> >Paf con? Wasn't Paf a guy that had a porcupine for an avatar?
> >
>
> working on the show with
> them.
>
Naw, it was short for "Plushies and Furries". This before they
started talking to the real furries.
And given that one scene that vanished between filming and airing
involved someone asking "are you a Plushie or a Furry?", I
suspect someone tactfully explained a few things to them... :->
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Kay Shapero
howar...@erie.net says...
>
> Yeah, was it just me or did the one guy investigator seem to be having a
> ball doing the investigation?
>
That would be the lead CSI, Gil Grissom. Who is one of the most
interesting characters in the show imho. He's one of those
highly focused characters whose self image requires them to
understand just about everything. He's got to be on top of the
situation (which got VERY funny in an episode when he got
involved with a good practical anthropologist/psychologist
runninng a S&M club.) He's also a forensic entomologist.
> And I'll tell you this. For single episode show, I was actually pretty darn
> surprised at how well those fursuits actually were. I mean, they didn't just
> run to the store it seemed and grabbed any ol' mascot outfit.
Actually they dug things out of Wardrobe and rented the rest.
Then they went over the lot and picked out the best ones, with
the help of Dark Fox. Note also that such things look a lot
better on screen than off (some of 'em were pretty scruffy in
person.)
Kay Shapero
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> > What exactally was negligent? I mean the one in a billion chance of
> > spotting someone crawling around in an -animal- costume on the side
> > of a western higway raise pleanty of reasonable doubt on a
> > negligence charge..
>
> He clearly had no idea what he was shooting at. Responsible people
> don't go outside shooting everything their dogs bark at, especially
There was a scope on the rifle... he should have been able to see
that something was weird, if not precisely what.
Paul Johnson
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> ( seems like a rather thin schedule for an all weekend event. )
I think that was only one day's worth of programming. According to
the calendar on the raccoon's bedroom's wall, PAF-CON was Thu-Sat.
Judging that they were able to go back the next day after their
initial visit, I would say the accident happened Thursday night, the
initial visit by the investigators was Friday. They only had the
day's schedule up at the convention.
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> ( Does ahyone know when the next PAF-CON is scheduled? )
Fake con for the show.
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The 01 Nov 2003 22:04:37 GMT, DishRoom1 <dish...@aol.com> wrote:
> All the while, I found it ironic that ads featuring animated
> furry-type critters were shown between breaks of a fictional show
> that more focused to the fursuiters and fursuit sexers, but no furry
> cartoons, art, ect.
Makes me if the advertisers expected us as an audience or something.
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> There was a scope on the rifle... he should have been able to see
> that something was weird, if not precisely what.
>
Remember what his actual position was supposed to be, not the view the
camera gave us. Basically, he could see something furry, on all fours, down
by the highway, with its head moving up and down. (The scope just means he
could see a bigger image of "something furry, on all fours, down by the
highway, with its head moving up and down"... it wasn't a nightscope.)
Given that the show is set in/around Las Vegas, a coyote was a reasonable
assumption... thus, as Brass points out, "The rancher gets off".
Yours logically,
The reasonable,
Paul Johnson
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>> He clearly had no idea what he was shooting at. Responsible people
>> don't go outside shooting everything their dogs bark at, especially
>
> There was a scope on the rifle... he should have been able to see
> that something was weird, if not precisely what.
Still, I think he spent more time shooting and less time thinking.
Think twice, shoot once.
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> The Sun, 02 Nov 2003 08:57:22 GMT, Kay Shapero <kaysh...@see.my.sig.invalid> wrote:
> >> He clearly had no idea what he was shooting at. Responsible people
> >> don't go outside shooting everything their dogs bark at, especially
> >
> > There was a scope on the rifle... he should have been able to see
> > that something was weird, if not precisely what.
>
> Still, I think he spent more time shooting and less time thinking.
> Think twice, shoot once.
They would have found something to charged him with here in Ohio..
Your not allowed to even point a gun twords a road, let alone taking
pot shots at coyotes along a freeway!.
kee
freddy1X
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> The Sat, 01 Nov 2003 13:20:10 -0500, freddy1X <fred...@indynetx.netx> wrote:
> > ( Does ahyone know when the next PAF-CON is scheduled? )
>
> Fake con for the show.
Er... I guess I forgot to put a smiley there. Yes, I knew it was a fake
con.
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BR
> Er... I guess I forgot to put a smiley there. Yes, I knew it was a fake
> con.
Maybe life will imitate art?
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knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.
Tamar
thing draws more gals than guys I'm all for it.
Bring on the ladies!
Tamar
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iBuck
>people we have become when nobody sees something wrong with an idiot
>shooting blindly into the dark without even bothering to get a
>flashlight and positively identifying his target first.
If he was shooting blindly, he wouldn't have -hit-. As it was he -did-
identify what he was shooting at, wrongly, but still a reasonable conclusion,
I've seen the big western 'yte's in zoos and stuff, given the scrub it's
not an -unreasonable- identification.
which as I said, leaves room for -reasnable- doubt.. the case isn't as
open and shut as you;d like to make it..
perhaps -some- weapons charge might stick, but negligant homocide, I doubt
would be an airtight case..
"You can have it Quickly,Correct, Complex - Pick 2"
MHirtes
"Tamar" <howar...@erie.net> wrote:
> Won't see me complaining about too many women. Heck if anything, if this
> thing draws more gals than guys I'm all for it.
>
> Bring on the ladies!
>
Too bad most of them are the types that also go to visit gay bars.
Kay Shapero
wand...@ticnet.com says...
> > 2. Too many full fursuits, worn throughout the con; not enough
> > tail-and-ears budget fursuits, and NO badges or artwork!
>
> Well, there *were* quite a few tail-and-ears people in the lecture... even
> the lecturer just had an earhood. And Mother spotted several in the crowd
> scene.
Most of the real furries were wearing badges - cat brought a lot
of his old badges and passed them out for the shoot. Thing is,
as I gather usually happens they cut rather a lot of what they
filmed, and of course concentrated on the fursuits. I was
wearing a straw hat with furry ears on it - I think I may have
seen it in the lecture scene though I'd have to single frame
through the tape to be sure.
Kay Shapero
> > All the while, I found it ironic that ads featuring animated
> > furry-type critters were shown between breaks of a fictional show
> > that more focused to the fursuiters and fursuit sexers, but no furry
> > cartoons, art, ect.
>
> Makes me if the advertisers expected us as an audience or something.
>
I'd be surprised if they didn't - most likely this is one of the
reasons they involved real furries in the first place.
Richard de Wylfin
Silver Seams <silve...@silverseams.com> wrote:
> begin freddy1X <fred...@indynetX.netx> quotation from
> news:3FA3F9...@indynetX.netx:
>
> > The pawprints on the pavement look just like that: prints( or painted
> > stencles ). Not to mention that a 'suit is unlikely to use anatomically
> > correct foot-paws.
>
> Well, now, that depends on who made it.
>
> (I can't say as mind come with self-inking pads, though...)
Those prints weren't anatomically correct for a raccoon anyway.
They looked like the familiar feline/canine digitgrade pawprints.
And no, while raccoons' paws do resemble hands, they do *not* have
opposable thumbs.
New alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe products on Cafeshops:
http://www.cafeshops.com/jotandcomma
Wanderer
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> Those prints weren't anatomically correct for a raccoon anyway.
> They looked like the familiar feline/canine digitgrade pawprints.
Be fair, nobody in the show said they were. Remember Sidle, at the opener?
"What kind of animal... ?"
> And no, while raccoons' paws do resemble hands, they do *not* have
> opposable thumbs.
>
True, and a strange mistake fur Grissom... according to the character bio,
he used to autopsy roadkill when he was little. Raccoons have a claw which
they use *like* an opposable thumb, which is why they have such a good
grip... it's not quite as good as an opposable thumb, but still provides
leverage.
Yours wolfishly,
The anatomically correct,
(I couldn't resist...;)
Silver Seams
news:thetalkingfox-6D5...@velox.critter.net:
> Those prints weren't anatomically correct for a raccoon anyway.
> They looked like the familiar feline/canine digitgrade pawprints.
> And no, while raccoons' paws do resemble hands, they do *not* have
> opposable thumbs.
Ah. Didn't see the show, so I don't know what the prints looked like.
Mine are correct for the species, though I've not yet made raccoon feet.
Ken Pick
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>
> That's the first time I've ever heard of a latex liner in a
> fursuit...hell, a cotton liner gets bloody uncomfortable after a while
> just walking around...
I have actually seen a six-foot condom costume. For real.
Many-many years ago, at an Equicon in Pasadena, held on Easter
weekend.
A six-foot condom with a cartoon happy face, cartoon-glove hands, and
Easter bunny ears (on a headband around the head/nose/point/whatever
of the condom) was going through the Dealer's Room, passing out little
plastic Easter eggs with condoms inside. He was heralded by others
going on about "IT'S THE EASTER RUBBER! HE'S COME! HE'S COME!"
Tamar
too much friction from rubbing up against one anoter. :D
Tamar
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