medium cool
tactic
about this movie
question
was al this theme music by the mothers?
there are some parts
that don't seem to be mothers
and if not
Who did it?
anybody?
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vriendelijke groet,
Theo Alers
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indifference.
tactic
even the liner notes on the movie don't mention the music theme's that i was
talkin about.
so
don't patronise
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Charles Ulrich
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> >
> > "tactic" <390...@4987909.cm> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > about this movie
> > >
> > > question
> > >
> > > was al this theme music by the mothers?
> > > there are some parts
> > > that don't seem to be mothers
> > >
> > > and if not
> > > Who did it?
> > >
> > > anybody?
> >
> > www.imdb.com
> > www.google.com
> >
> there is more to say about this then can be googled
> even the liner notes on the movie don't mention the music theme's that i was
> talkin about.
> so
> don't patronise
>
> the net is extremely overestimated
Okay, then I won't mention Román's page
<http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/videography/Medium_Cool.html> which one
might suppose would summarize the knowledge of the inhabitants of affz
on this topic.
The IMDb gives considerable information about the music in the film if
you look hard enough.
From <http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0064652/trivia>:
> In the psychedelic nightclub sequence, the band seen performing on
> the stage is The Litter, a Minneapolis-based group. However, in the
> original release version, their music is not heard; instead, we hear
> a piece by Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention.
This suggests that, in some version other than the original release, The
Litter themselves are heard in this scene.
> When the film was released on video, Paramount was sued by the
> copyright holders of the song "Merry-Go-Round". Under their 1969
> agreement, Paramount had rights to the song for showing the film in
> theatres and on television. Paramount argued that video release was
> the same as television broadcast. The courts ruled that the copyright
> holder in 1969 could not have considered videocassettes to be like
> television broadcast, as home videocassettes were not invented.
Román's page indicates that this is indeed Wild Man Fischer's
Merry-Go-Round they're talking about.
From <http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0064652/fullcredits>:
> Original Music by
> Mike Bloomfield
> Mike Bloomfield .... musician (as Michael Bloomfield)
> Paul Butterfield .... musician
> Marcus Doubleday .... musician
> Bob Jones .... musician
> Noel Jukes .... musician
> John Kahn .... musician
> Ira Kamin .... musician
> Fred Olson .... musician
> Jerry Oshita .... musician
So perhaps the music you were asking about was written by Mike
Bloomfield and performed by these musicians, most of whose names I
recognize from the credits of various albums recorded in San Francisco
around this time (Mike Bloomfield, Electric Flag, Brewer & Shipley, etc.)
By the way, flutist Noel Jewkes (I believe this is the correct spelling)
has recorded with affz's own Graham Connah.
Bassist John Kahn was in the Jerry Garcia Band, who opened for FZ,
8/18/84 Chicago.
--Charles
tactic
Charles
I thought i recognised the love
but cannot find them on the credits.
I'll get back on the topic whit the exact time the music i asked about is
playing.
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Charles Ulrich
"tactic" <390...@4987909.cm> wrote:
> I thought i recognised the love
> but cannot find them on the credits.
You mean like Arthur Lee? Why didn't you said so?
From <http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/main/2002/april/love.html>:
> 'Emotions' closes the first side
[of the first Love album]
> , it's a combination Morricone/surf instrumental that is forever
> linked in my mind to the film Medium Cool. The song is used
> repeatedly to mirror the tension in said film, which depicts a
> reporter investigating racial unrest in Chicago immediately prior to
> and during the riots of the Democratic Convention of 1968. Emotions'
> sinister atmospherics and blending of styles make one wish that Love
> had recorded more instrumentals. And like a question mark it brings
> the first side of the record to an appropriately open ended close
> compelling you to flip it over to see what comes next.
From <http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00002516U/103-1188713-0296617>:
> In particular, "Emotions", a quite brilliant and eerily haunting
> instrumental that has been used as backing music in several film
> scenes (most notably throughout Haskell Wexler's cult classic,
> "Medium Cool") and which will grab repeated space on your CD player.
> Worth the price of the album on its own.
From <http://lege.cz/hudba/love.htm>:
> Instrumentalni skladba Emotion z LP 1 byla pouzita jako ustredni
> motiv i u nas kdysi kultovniho filmu Medium Cool.
Oh, and while we're on the subject of Love's first album--what's the
connection between that album and FZ?
> > > there is more to say about this then can be googled
> > > the net is extremely overestimated
I found the answer to your question on the internet, using Google's
search engine.
--Charles
tactic
>search engine.
:-))
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> > > the net is extremely overestimated
i shouldn't have used the word extremely for sure,...
i apologise
))))))))
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indifference ^^
> > > > there is more to say about this then can be googled
> > > > the net is extremely overestimated
>
> i shouldn't have used the word extremely for sure,...
> i apologise
>
> ))))))))
Don't patronize.
tactic
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thanks a lot mr Ulrich
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Michael Brenna
From Weasels Ripped My Flesh:
Oh No 0:00-2:28
= Medium Cool 0:25:24-0:25:52
From Freak Out!:
The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet 8:10-8:23 + 9:07-9:25
= Medium Cool 1:22:40-1:23:11
From We're Only In It For The Money:
Are You Hung Up? 0:10-0:26 + 1:09-1:24
= Medium Cool 1:23:11-1:23:43
Who Needs The Peace Corps? 0:00-0:20 + 0:37-2:14
= Medium Cool 1:23:43-1:25:34
Mom & Dad 0:00-1:10
= Medium Cool 1:32:23-1:33:33
Notes:
- Medium Cool was released August 27, 1969, a year before Weasels Ripped My Flesh.
- The female "Who's that" remark, around the splice in Monster Magnet, is probably added by the filmmakers.
- Mom & Dad is prolonged with a non-FZ cue, at 1:33:33-1:34:04.
- Merry-Go-Round by Wild Man Fisher is still missing.
Personal view:
The movie is a timeless masterpiece. The perfection is also reflected in the sparse, but highly efficient use of FZ's music. Visuals, sound and lyrics are tightly edited, giving the scenes a very sharp ironic edge.