Meaning Of Magdalena?
Stu Mark
Band From L.A. and after listening to Magdalena, I'm reminded of the
time I tried to get my brother to listen to this album and he
complained about Magdalena - he said he couldn't listen to it because
he had a daughter. And I had no response for him, because I had no
idea what the song was about. I've researched what I can, but I
haven't found an explaination that rings true.
So what is it? What am I missing? Who is the focus of this satire?
Thanks,
Stu
(who gets that it's fucking great to be alive, ladies and gentlemen)
NP: Like Suicide by Soundgarden
Steve Brooks
"Stu Mark" wrote
> So I'm sittin' here on the group W bench, listening to Just Another
> Band From L.A. and after listening to Magdalena, I'm reminded of the
> time I tried to get my brother to listen to this album and he
> complained about Magdalena - he said he couldn't listen to it because
> he had a daughter. And I had no response for him, because I had no
> idea what the song was about. I've researched what I can, but I
> haven't found an explaination that rings true.
>
> So what is it? What am I missing? Who is the focus of this satire?
>
> Thanks,
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a real life inspiration for the song
but, if so, I've no idea what it was. To me the song has always sounded
like a description of a failed attempt at father-daughter incest. Which
probably explains your brother's discomfort.
'You're mom'll never know.'
Lovely song. The bit where -
"Magdalena, Magdalena, Magdalena, Magdalena,
daughter of the smog-filled winds of Los Angeles"
- happens always makes the hairs on the back of my arms stand up.
I do wonder why it switches from Montreal to Los Angeles in the middle.
> Stu
> (who gets that it's fucking great to be alive, ladies and gentlemen)
Truly.
--
SB
Charles Ulrich
<410d8d10-baac-449d...@g23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Stu Mark <stu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I'm sittin' here on the group W bench, listening to Just Another
> Band From L.A. and after listening to Magdalena, I'm reminded of the
> time I tried to get my brother to listen to this album and he
> complained about Magdalena - he said he couldn't listen to it because
> he had a daughter. And I had no response for him, because I had no
> idea what the song was about. I've researched what I can, but I
> haven't found an explaination that rings true.
>
> So what is it? What am I missing? Who is the focus of this satire?
Canadian fathers who lust after their daughters, I guess.
Have you read the following?
<http://www.arf.ru/Notes/Jabfla/magda.html>
<http://starling.rinet.ru/music/frank.htm#LA>
Eric F. Clarke, "Subject-Position and the Specification of Invariants in
Music by Frank Zappa and P. J. Harvey", Music Analysis, Vol. 18, No. 3.
(Oct., 1999), pp. 347-374.
--Charles
Charles Ulrich
"Steve Brooks" <ste...@postmaster.invalid> wrote:
> It wouldn't surprise me if there was a real life inspiration for the song
Howard Kaylan has stated that there wasn't.
> I do wonder why it switches from Montreal to Los Angeles in the middle.
Probably the same reason that Studebaker Hoch's car changes from a
Cadillac to a Lincoln--inconsistent localization of the standard lyrics.
--Charles
David Z
news:410d8d10-baac-449d...@g23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> So I'm sittin' here on the group W bench, listening to Just Another
> Band From L.A. and after listening to Magdalena, I'm reminded of the
> time I tried to get my brother to listen to this album and he
> complained about Magdalena - he said he couldn't listen to it because
> he had a daughter. And I had no response for him, because I had no
> idea what the song was about. I've researched what I can, but I
> haven't found an explaination that rings true.
>
> So what is it?
An attempt at incest.
> What am I missing?
Probably nothing. What's the mystery?
> Who is the focus of this satire?
A lecherous father and his obsessive attaction to the "thing" he "gave his
sperm to."
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stu
> (who gets that it's fucking great to be alive, ladies and gentlemen)
Me, too.
Stu Mark
> > Band From L.A. and after listening to Magdalena, I'm reminded of the
> > time I tried to get my brother to listen to this album and he
> > complained about Magdalena - he said he couldn't listen to it because
> > he had a daughter. And I had no response for him, because I had no
> > idea what the song was about. I've researched what I can, but I
> > haven't found an explaination that rings true.
>
> > So what is it?
>
> An attempt at incest.
>
> > What am I missing?
>
> Probably nothing. What's the mystery?
It seems too harsh to be random silliness - Maybe it really is just
random humor set over this wonderful music, but it strikes me as
really sharp, as though he had someone in mind.
>
David Z
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I agree that the concept is provocative and even disturbing. But I think
you can say that about a lot of Frank's songbook. There's a fine line in
his work between humor and distastefulness. A lot of what I like about
Frank's humor (e.g., The Illinois Enema Bandit) others find offensive and,
in some cases, way over the line.
Joachim Ott
> In article <mSIyn.11692$rU3....@newsfe19.ams2>,
> "Steve Brooks" <ste...@postmaster.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It wouldn't surprise me if there was a real life inspiration for the song
>
> Howard Kaylan has stated that there wasn't.
Well:
|| Spread mayonaise and kaopectate all over your body
This can't be fiction. He must have lived it out. :-)
Strictly Commercial
Or maybe just for the rhyme.
Rolf
ttuerff
sometimes a song is just a song."
On Apr 18, 3:41 pm, Strictly Commercial <maurerr...@telus.net> wrote:
> Charles Ulrich wrote:
> > In article <mSIyn.11692$rU3.2...@newsfe19.ams2>,
Big Al Tomatoes
It seems to me just another group he's taken a stab at.
marc rosen
Is that the same brother who lives in Washington DC and is friends
with Daphne and Steve?
What's a Group W bench?
Marc (who used to
sign off in the third person on most of his snail mail - and some
emails - years ago but now feels outgunned by your superior use of the
paraphenses.)
marc rosen
>
> - Show quoted text -
That should read "parentheses". Shit, another typo due to hasty
posting.
Marc
Strictly Commercial
> That should read "parentheses". Shit, another typo due to hasty
> posting.
Geez, the Internet is going to hell in a handbasket.
Rollo
David Z
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Fathers who lust after and/or sexually assault their daughters?
Martin Gregorie
> What's a Group W bench?
>
Have a listen to Arlo Guthrie's 'Alice's Restaurant' or watch a DVD of
the film to get the full gory details.
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