2.) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - John Ford's Swan Song...another
GREAT Classic even though most of it was shot on indoor sets. "That
was my steak, Liberty. Pick it Up!"
3.) - The Hired Hand - Peter Fonda & Warren Oates. A flop at the Box
office means that it is good! A real life tale about how the West
really wuz.....working your ass off 14 hours per day. Check it out if
you've never seen it.
4.) Man In The Wilderness - Richard Harris & John Huston. A Fantastic
Western/ Mountain man flick.... EVERY scene in this movie MEANS
something! Very spiritual movie. Everything happens for a reason!
Man's regrets/life choices/indesicions/all come back to haunt you.
Very realistic of the times. Take your dead with you. Richard Harris
& John Huston shoulda won Oscars for their performances.
5.) The Spikes Gang - Lee Marvin meets the cast of American
Graffitti! A neat little revisionist Western notable for one of
Arthur Hunnicutt's last & BESTperformances....a real scene stealer!
Lee is GREAT...as usual. Ronnie Howard isn't.
5 1/2) Jeremiah Johnson.......love this one too. Very realistic of
the times. The Fight scene where Redford just walks into the Indian
camp is one of the best.
There are probably about 20 more I could name...(7 Men from Now, Major
Dundee, The Wild Bunch, the Good, Bad & Ugly, Tall In The Saddle,
Unforgiven, El Dorado, Big Jake, Mountain Men, some Fred Sears
Westerns & some others I forget at the moment.
The old geezer
NP: Texture Maps - Steve Roach
ND: Genesee Bock Beer
Shane
High Noon
The Magnificent Seven
The Quick and the Dead
Quigley Down Under
This may change upon further reflection and consideration.
Does Blazin' Saddles count?
> Shane
>
> High Noon
>
> The Magnificent Seven
>
> The Quick and the Dead
>
> Quigley Down Under
>
>
> This may change upon further reflection and consideration.
>
>
>
> Does Blazin' Saddles count?
High Plains Drifter
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
My Name is Nobody
The Wild Bunch
The Outlaw Josey Wales
--
Les Cargill
I saw all but High Noon in a movie theater.
--
Bill
> High Plains Drifter
I have to agree here. You don't know it's a ghost story until
way too late.
I can't pick five. Sorry.
--
Les Cargill
<snip>
1. Red River
2. Magnificent Seven
3. Good, Bad, Ugly
4. Little Big Man
5. Last Of The Wild Horses (MST3K version!)
Rich
Culpepper cattle company
Little Big Man
Big Jake
The Great Train Robbery
Jeremiah Johnson
--
Mike E.
> Does Blazin' Saddles count?
Certainly does in my book.
> What's a Western Movie?
Probably not "Bride and Prejudice".
--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
OK, no no particular order:
High Noon
A Fistfull of Dollars
Blazing Saddles
Dances with Wolves
Little Big Man
> What's a Western Movie?
Western Movies = a-side of Well! by The Olympics
--Charles
The Ox Bow Incident
Seven Samurai
Yojimbo
Sanjuro
The Wild Bunch
Bil
Or Silverado
Or One-Eyed Jacks (Brando)
Or Goin' South (Nicholson, Belushi, etc.)
Or the "Trinity" movies
Or that one that had Bob Dylan in it.
You CANNOT have a Western with Count Basie's Big Band performing in it.
I mentioned The Magnificent Seven. The original telling of this story
in the Seven Samurai is a much better film. I didn't think it met
TOG's criteria.
> Or that one that had Bob Dylan in it.
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
Rolf
The Cowboys
Little Big Man
Blazing Saddles
Dead Man (if it wasn't for Nobody, I don't know that I'd list this)
Jeremiah Johnson (haven't seen this since the 70's, so maybe I don't
actually like it anymore)
Zachariah
Gawd, not a old world western, but still...
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> What's a Western Movie?
Western Movies = a-side of Well! by The Olympics
--Charles
> What's a Western Movie?
Western Movies = a-side of Well! by The Olympics
--Charles
We heard you the first time. Ha Ha. Very Clever.
TOG
Pretty weird too --- as if the Firesign Theatre was hired to script a
movie, then the producers panicked when confronted with the masterpiece
they produced, and called in some old-fashioned Hollywood script doctors
to "fix" it.
Something like that, anyway. The end result is neither "Firesign
Theatre" nor "movie".
Rolf
> On Feb 4, 6:34?pm, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article
> > <0dab48bb-402e-40f3-bd1d-73cf50123...@v36g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,
> > ?Mike Espinoza <espin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What's a Western Movie?
> >
> > Western Movies = a-side of Well! by The Olympics
> >
> > --Charles
>
> We heard you the first time. Ha Ha. Very Clever.
Actually, you heard me the third time. These last two messages were
actually the first two, but they took the long way around.
--Charles
But seriously folks...
Westerns don't make me puke, but we Gen Xer's pretty much missed the
era of Westerns.
They were pretty much dying out in the 70s until Michael Cimino
unwittingly tried to kill the genre outright.
Even on television, "Gunsmoke" went off the air when I was 6 years
old.
Westerns were pretty much what my father and grandfathers watched.
That said, I can pretty much watch any Clint Eastwood movie that is
not named "Bronco Billy". Although I have seen none of the "Man With
No Name" movies, I thoroughly enjoyed "High Plains Drifter", "The
Outlaw Josey Wales", and "Unforgiven".
I can, also, say that I liked "Silverado". What I have seen of
"Little Big Man" was pretty entertaining.
And, yes, "Blazing Saddles" is great.
--
Mike E.
What's odd is that "Heaven's Gate" (the version that's about
four hours )is a pretty good movie. Cimino apparently just
went kinda nuts, and it literally took a studio down.
"3:10 to Yuma" was remade in 2007, and did a respectable business.
When Spielberg reinvented the movie business with "Jaws", it
got a lot more gamble-ier. And he largely had to do it
that way ( blitzkrieg nationwide release ) because there
had been an application of the Sherman Antitrust Act against
the studios owning the theaters. Er, that's *part* of why.
When movies were cheaper, people could take more risks. Even
now, movies like "The Hurt Locker" ( an indy film ) is Oscar
nominated, so maybe it'll go more that way again. And I would
not be surprised to see westerns come back.
> Even on television, "Gunsmoke" went off the air when I was 6 years
> old.
>
> Westerns were pretty much what my father and grandfathers watched.
>
Yes - your generation made video games more lucrative than movies,
too.
> That said, I can pretty much watch any Clint Eastwood movie that is
> not named "Bronco Billy". Although I have seen none of the "Man With
> No Name" movies, I thoroughly enjoyed "High Plains Drifter", "The
> Outlaw Josey Wales", and "Unforgiven".
>
> I can, also, say that I liked "Silverado". What I have seen of
> "Little Big Man" was pretty entertaining.
>
> And, yes, "Blazing Saddles" is great.
> --
> Mike E.
--
Les Cargill
> When movies were cheaper, people could take more risks. Even now, movies
> like "The Hurt Locker" ( an indy film ) is Oscar nominated, so maybe
> it'll go more that way again. And I would not be surprised to see
> westerns come back.
>
With the right connections, movies can still be made cheaply and well,
think "Slumdog Billionaire".
Others that should have made it were "Calendar Girls", "Monsoon Wedding"
and "Bride and Prejudice". All did well here. That they apparently didn't
make it in the US tends to show that some sort of black list is alive and
well.
BTW, did "Notting Hill", "Three Weddings and a Funeral" and "Love,
Actually" get much visibility in the US?
> BTW, did "Notting Hill", "Three Weddings and a Funeral" and "Love,
> Actually" get much visibility in the US?
I saw 4 weddings & a funeral. Thought it was very good but felt the
cuss words were unnecessary.
TOG
It did - at least on video.
Total US Gross $31,011,616
International Gross $62,063,000
Worldwide Gross $93,074,616
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2003/CGIRL.php
> "Monsoon Wedding"
> and "Bride and Prejudice". All did well here. That they apparently didn't
> make it in the US tends to show that some sort of black list is alive and
> well.
>
Perhaps "black list" is too harsh. Movie theaters in the US don't run
unstupid movies - when I went to see "There Will Be Blood", the room
had a total of ten people in it. But there were three instances of
the sacrilege "Horton Hears a Who" running, all full... teenagers
go to movies.
Remember, our highest-grossing sport is still NASCAR....
> BTW, did "Notting Hill", "Three Weddings and a Funeral" and "Love,
> Actually" get much visibility in the US?
>
I don't know anything about that species of movie. You can look up
grosses on der Net:
Notting Hill: Total US Gross, $116,089,678. International Gross,
$258,000,000.00 1/4B ain't shabby... I have never sat thru a Julia
Roberts nor Hugh Grant movie...
The point about the Sherman Act is that they used to do staggered
releases - they'd test movies out in certain theaters, to try to
find a home for it, to let word of mouth build up. But TV,
some internal developments (ie, the death of the star system )
and the Sherman Act all conspired...
--
Les Cargill
> The Quick and the Dead
I am pleased to see that someone besides me likes that one. Great
characterizations within it. "Ace Hanlon" was a cool fool. The Indian
who could not be killed, but was. Keith David, the Black shootist.
One film that I've always enjoyed is: El Dorado (1966) with John Wayne,
Robert Mitchum and James Caan as "Alan Bourdillion Tra-who?"
There are so many others, various of them having been mentioned in
earlier follow-ups, that I cannot at this moment think of four more to add.
Oh wait, Tombstone, starring Kurt Russell. Billy Bob Thornton as the
loudmouh, punk-ass faro dealer was good. And of course, the
"huckleberry," Val Kilmer.
I owe you three more titles.
--
Trout Mask Replica
1. Once upon a time in the west
2. The good, the bad and the ugly
3. High noon
4. Unforgiven
5. The magnificent seven