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Matt Schlabach

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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Hello.

I was listening to Billy the Mountain, and towards the end of the song is
the portion whose lyrics read:

do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do ... ... I'm so hip ... beef pies ... he
was born next to the beef pies, underneath Joni Mitchell's autographed
picture, right beside Elliot Robert's big bank book, next to the boat where
Crosby flushed away all his stash and the cops got him in the boat and drove
away, to the can where Neil Young slipped another disc ...
Frozen (something) pie
Frozen (something) pie
Frozen (something) pie
And that was the main influence on him
The influence of a frozen beef pie.

I didn't think too much of it at first, but then I was driving some people
somewhere when a song came on the classic rock radio station that sounded
EXACTLY like that part of the song. It was quite interesting. I was so
surprised that I almost crashed into the back of a car that was stopped in
front of me.

But I couldn't find out what song it was that FZ was making fun of. None of
the FAQs, or the Notes N' Comments sections of Zappa websites have mentioned
it.

I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied in
that part of the song. If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about,
you can check it out on the Just Another Band from L.A. album, or the
Playground Psychotics album. It appears more than halfway into the song,
and it starts with the "do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do" part. From what
I recall of the song on the radio, it had a folk feel to it, with acoustic
guitars and whatnot.

Thanks for any help,

The Deej

fho...@mail.utexas.edu


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?Hello.
?
?I was listening to Billy the Mountain, and towards the end of the song is
?the portion whose lyrics read:
?
?do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do ... ... I'm so hip ... beef pies ... he
?was born next to the beef pies, underneath Joni Mitchell's autographed
?picture, right beside Elliot Robert's big bank book, next to the boat where
?Crosby flushed away all his stash and the cops got him in the boat and drove
?away, to the can where Neil Young slipped another disc ...
?Frozen (something) pie
?Frozen (something) pie
?Frozen (something) pie
?And that was the main influence on him
?The influence of a frozen beef pie.
?
?I didn't think too much of it at first, but then I was driving some people
?somewhere when a song came on the classic rock radio station that sounded
?EXACTLY like that part of the song. It was quite interesting. I was so
?surprised that I almost crashed into the back of a car that was stopped in
?front of me.
?
?But I couldn't find out what song it was that FZ was making fun of. None of
?the FAQs, or the Notes N' Comments sections of Zappa websites have mentioned
?it.
?
?I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied in
?that part of the song. If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about,
?you can check it out on the Just Another Band from L.A. album, or the
?Playground Psychotics album. It appears more than halfway into the song,
?and it starts with the "do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do" part. From what
?I recall of the song on the radio, it had a folk feel to it, with acoustic
?guitars and whatnot.
?
?Thanks for any help,
?
?The Deej
?
?fho...@mail.utexas.edu
?
?
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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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>I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied in
>that part of the song.

Suite: Judy Blue Eyes by Crosby, Still & Nash off their first Lp (1969).

TOG

Doug Boucher

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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Matt Schlabach <phattm...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote

> I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied
in
> that part of the song.

It's Suite: Judy Blue Eyes by Crosby, Stills, and Nash. (From their first
self-titled album.) The first time I heard it in Billy The Mountain, I about
shit myself laughing so hard.

Doug

Charles Ulrich

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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In article <zjxA4.9680$w81.8...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>, "Matt Schlabach"
<phattm...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:

> I was listening to Billy the Mountain, and towards the end of the song is

> the portion whose lyrics read:
>

> do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do ... ...
>

> I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied in
> that part of the song.

"Suite: Judy Blue Eyes"
written by Stephen Stills
recorded by Crosby Stills & Nash, circa 1969

--Charles

SS2

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Suite Judy Blue Eyes: Crosby,Stills, Nash and Young

Jack P. Armstrong

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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>Suite Judy Blue Eyes: Crosby,Stills, Nash and Young

No Young, just CSN.
- - - - - - -
Jody B. (aka Jack P. Armstrong)
"The program for this evening is: we do a bit, and then we stop for a bit, and
then we do a bit more." - Robert Wyatt

Kristian Kier

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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On 19 Mar 2000 07:16:42 GMT, stuco...@aol.com.net.org (Jack P.
Armstrong) wrote:

>>Suite Judy Blue Eyes: Crosby,Stills, Nash and Young
>
>No Young, just CSN.

That makes it CSNNY then, right?

-Kristian

Jack P. Armstrong

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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>>>Suite Judy Blue Eyes: Crosby,Stills, Nash and Young
>>
>>No Young, just CSN.
>
>That makes it CSNNY then, right?

Crosby Slowly Nudged Neil Young...
"Come, Slow Neil, to New York!"
Cor, smelly neil never yawned!
Cause sometimes, nobody needs yawn.

phil

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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One more thing FZ trivia fans:
"The browness of her body makes me sweat inside my crotch" section of
"Supergrease" from
"Playground Psychotics" is a parody of "Lady of the Island" which is also on the
1st CSN album.
But you all knew that anyway didn't ya.
Cheers
phil

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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In article <38D61258...@tssp.com>, phil wrote:

>One more thing FZ trivia fans:
>"The browness of her body makes me sweat inside my crotch" section of
>"Supergrease" from
>"Playground Psychotics" is a parody of "Lady of the Island" which is also
>on the
>1st CSN album.

Here's another for the trivia spotters: name two songs (both by major hit-
making artists), snatches of which are sung by MOI members during "The
Living Garbage Truck" on _Playground Psychotics_.

Biffy the Elephant Shrew @}-`--}----
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http://www.mp3.com/michaelpdawson (just starting out; more soon)

Rolf Maurer

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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On 03 Apr 2000 01:29:02 GMT, biffy...@aol.commie.rats (Biffy the
Elephant Shrew) wrote:

>
>In article <38D61258...@tssp.com>, phil wrote:
>
>>One more thing FZ trivia fans:
>>"The browness of her body makes me sweat inside my crotch" section of
>>"Supergrease" from
>>"Playground Psychotics" is a parody of "Lady of the Island" which is also
>>on the
>>1st CSN album.
>
>Here's another for the trivia spotters: name two songs (both by major hit-
>making artists), snatches of which are sung by MOI members during "The
>Living Garbage Truck" on _Playground Psychotics_.

And while we're on the subject, what's that playing in the background
of Don't Take Me Down, track 8 on PP? " ... Right on! Right on! Right
on!"

Rolf


Michael Gula

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Biffy the Elephant Shrew wrote:
>
> >Here's another for the trivia spotters: name two songs (both by major
> >hit-making artists), snatches of which are sung by MOI members during

> >"The Living Garbage Truck" on _Playground Psychotics_.
>
> Perhaps everyone hates _Playground Psychotics_ too much to check this
> one out...?

Impossible!

More likely, the question is a stumper.
--

To reply remove MORESPAM

Lewis Saul

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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>Impossible!
>
>More likely, the question is a stumper.
>--


I actually took a few listens at this and though you can hear Howard or Mark
(?) singing [I wrote the timing down somewhere but it flew away] at _____, I
can't believe it's actually identifiable as a song. But then again, never
play "I can name that tune in less than 1.5 notes with Biffy!"

As far as snippet #2 goes, I never even heard any other singing. The roar
and whine of the garbage truck drowns everything else out. Sort of like
bagpipes and lute...

I wonder if our 3,600-acre luxury home guy would consider playing this cut
at full volume at around 3:25 a.m. some Wednesday night?

ls


Charles Ulrich

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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In article <sf045l...@corp.supernews.com>, "Lewis Saul"
<ls...@azstarnet.com> wrote:

> I actually took a few listens at this and though you can hear Howard or Mark
> (?) singing [I wrote the timing down somewhere but it flew away] at _____, I
> can't believe it's actually identifiable as a song. But then again, never
> play "I can name that tune in less than 1.5 notes with Biffy!"
>
> As far as snippet #2 goes, I never even heard any other singing. The roar
> and whine of the garbage truck drowns everything else out. Sort of like
> bagpipes and lute...

I listened several times, found the quotes, but didn't think I knew the
songs, so I didn't post.

O:49 "...won't be lonely for long"

O:57 "where are you ... a long hot summer"

Anyone recognize these lyrics?

--Charles

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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>Here's another for the trivia spotters: name two songs (both by major
>hit-making artists), snatches of which are sung by MOI members during
>"The Living Garbage Truck" on _Playground Psychotics_.

Perhaps everyone hates _Playground Psychotics_ too much to check this
one out...?

Biffy the Elephant Shrew @}-`--}----

Mark Mott

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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>
>
> O:57 "where are you ... a long hot summer"
>
> Anyone recognize these lyrics?
>
> --Charles

Jimi Hendrix - "Long Hot Summer Night" on Electric Ladyland


John Hopkins

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Lewis Saul <ls...@azstarnet.com> wrote in message
news:sf045l...@corp.supernews.com...

> As far as snippet #2 goes, I never even heard any other singing. The roar
> and whine of the garbage truck drowns everything else out. Sort of like
> bagpipes and lute...

Ah! A PDQ Bach reference!

I heard this once, a very long time ago. What album was it on? All I can
remember is Shickele's (sp?) intro along the lines of "The lute is a very
beautiful instrument. Think of it, while you're listening to the bagpipes."


/John "busted sig" Darkhop

Lewis Saul

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>I heard this once, a very long time ago. What album was it on? All I can
>remember is Shickele's (sp?) intro along the lines of "The lute is a very
>beautiful instrument. Think of it, while you're listening to the bagpipes."
>


It's from the Sinfonia Concertante, S. 98.6 [Sehr Unruhig mit schmalz --
Andante senza moto -- Presto mit schleppend] on the very first album
(CD)!! -- Peter Schickele Presents An Evening With P.D.Q. Bach (1807-1742)?
(Vanguard VBD-79195) -- and also on subsequent greatest hits sets...

The solo instruments are bagpipes, left-handed sewer flute, lute,
double-reed slide music stand, balalaika and ocarina.

I'm really surprised more people in this group aren't into PDQ. Yes, it's
true, you need to have a pretty solid feel for classical music, in general,
to get most of the references -- not to mention a pretty fair knowledge of
the world's literature -- but Peter is basically a real down-home guy who is
one of the funniest humans on the planet.

His work is *so* similar to FZ's -- in concept, style, execution, etc. Aside
from the obvious Spike Jones influence on both, the little musical jokes
which appear in the margins of the music are equally astonishing in both
composers (yes, PS *is* a composer, too...)

I think most FZ fans would find the 1990 "Oedipus Tex" to be *very* FZ-like
insofar as the "lyrics" and funny punning are concerned -- again, don't
expect any rock and roll -- but if you like classical music even a teensy
bit, you'll laugh your ass off!

There is also a work called "Classical Rap" which has to be heard to be
believed.

[Telarc CD-80239]

**
His first Telarc disc, "1712 Overture" is pretty damn good, too...

[Telarc CD-80210]

Lewis Saul
The Frank Zappa Musical Resource Institute (TFZMRI)
http://www.onour.com/tfzmri
ls...@azstarnet.com


Cosmc

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On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:01:24 -0700, "Lewis Saul" <ls...@azstarnet.com>
wrote:

>>I heard this once, a very long time ago. What album was it on? All I can
>>remember is Shickele's (sp?) intro along the lines of "The lute is a very
>>beautiful instrument. Think of it, while you're listening to the bagpipes."
>>
>
>
>It's from the Sinfonia Concertante, S. 98.6 [Sehr Unruhig mit schmalz --
>Andante senza moto -- Presto mit schleppend] on the very first album
>(CD)!! -- Peter Schickele Presents An Evening With P.D.Q. Bach (1807-1742)?
>(Vanguard VBD-79195) -- and also on subsequent greatest hits sets...
>

I've got another obscure reference to ask about, from a Firesign
Theatre bit...during the track "The American Pagaent," originally on
How Can You be in Two Places at Once...., during which one of them, to
the tune of Yankee Doodle Dandy, sings:

"Yankee Doodle came to terms, writing Martin Bubar, stuck a fuhrer in
her back and called it [?]"

I've never been able to make sense of the word(s) sung at the question
mark, but I've always thought it was 'shickle-something.' Now I learn
of this Schickele maniac and his PDQ Bach (which I would think the
Firesign fellas would have been into), and I can't help but think
there's a connection.

SO, can anyone fill in the blank for me? Explain? Did I spell Bubar
correctly? Does Schickele indeed rhyme with pickle?

Let go of that pickle,
Cosmc

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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In article <38F0570B...@bellsouth.net>, Mark wrote:

>> O:57 "where are you ... a long hot summer"
>>
>> Anyone recognize these lyrics?
>

>Jimi Hendrix - "Long Hot Summer Night" on Electric Ladyland

Correct. The other one is harder, so before I give the answer (below),
here's a clue that will give away the identity of the original artist (and
I hate like *damn*...etc.):

The artist had numerous chart hits throughout the '70s under a name
that was not his birth name, and he now goes by a name that is neither
his birth name nor his old stage name.

*

*

*

*

*

Give up?

*

*

*

*

*

"Mona Bone Jakon" by Cat Stevens (born Stephen Giorgiou, now Yusuf Islam).

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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In article <qUrxOFMEBJK+wc...@4ax.com>, Cosmc wrote:

>"Yankee Doodle came to terms, writing Martin Bubar, stuck a fuhrer in
>her back and called it [?]"

Schickelgruber. Meaning Hitler. (It was his mother's maiden name, I
think.)

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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In article <qUrxOFMEBJK+wc...@4ax.com>, Cosmc wrote:

>SO, can anyone fill in the blank for me? Explain? Did I spell Bubar
>correctly?

Yes, but you spelled Buber incorrectly. Which is okay, because I think
Schickelgruber may actually be Schicklgruber. (To paraphrase Cecil
Adams, on the subject of the many spellings of Moammar Khadafy,
let's just call him Fuckface and be done with it.)

>Does Schickele indeed rhyme with pickle?

No, it's pronounced schick-ul-ee.

Cosmc

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On 10 Apr 2000 04:47:24 GMT, biffy...@aol.commie.rats (Biffy the
Elephant Shrew) wrote:

>In article <qUrxOFMEBJK+wc...@4ax.com>, Cosmc wrote:
>
>>SO, can anyone fill in the blank for me? Explain? Did I spell Bubar
>>correctly?
>
>Yes, but you spelled Buber incorrectly. Which is okay, because I think
>Schickelgruber may actually be Schicklgruber. (To paraphrase Cecil
>Adams, on the subject of the many spellings of Moammar Khadafy,
>let's just call him Fuckface and be done with it.)
>

Agreed.

>>Does Schickele indeed rhyme with pickle?
>
>No, it's pronounced schick-ul-ee.
>
>Biffy the Elephant Shrew @}-`--}----
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>http://www.mp3.com/michaelpdawson (just starting out; more soon)

Thanks for the info and the blank-filling, Biffy...
alt.fan.firesign-theatre is pretty much a ghost town, but I knew I
could count on someone 'round these here parts for some answers.

Cosmc

Rolf Maurer

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>The artist had numerous chart hits throughout the '70s under a name
>that was not his birth name, and he now goes by a name that is neither
>his birth name nor his old stage name.
>

>
>Give up?

That still leaves the question of what the band on stage is playing in
the background to Don't Take Me Down on PP. Ooooh, it's right on the
tip of my brain too.

Rolf


gilw...@yahoo.com

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On Friday, March 17, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Matt Schlabach wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I was listening to Billy the Mountain, and towards the end of the song is
> the portion whose lyrics read:
>
> do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do ... ... I'm so hip ... beef pies ... he
> was born next to the beef pies, underneath Joni Mitchell's autographed
> picture, right beside Elliot Robert's big bank book, next to the boat where
> Crosby flushed away all his stash and the cops got him in the boat and drove
> away, to the can where Neil Young slipped another disc ...
> Frozen (something) pie
> Frozen (something) pie
> Frozen (something) pie
> And that was the main influence on him
> The influence of a frozen beef pie.
>
> I didn't think too much of it at first, but then I was driving some people
> somewhere when a song came on the classic rock radio station that sounded
> EXACTLY like that part of the song. It was quite interesting. I was so
> surprised that I almost crashed into the back of a car that was stopped in
> front of me.
>
> But I couldn't find out what song it was that FZ was making fun of. None of
> the FAQs, or the Notes N' Comments sections of Zappa websites have mentioned
> it.
>
> I would like to know the group and the song title that was being parodied in
> that part of the song. If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about,
> you can check it out on the Just Another Band from L.A. album, or the
> Playground Psychotics album. It appears more than halfway into the song,
> and it starts with the "do-do-do do-do-doot doot do-do-do" part. From what
> I recall of the song on the radio, it had a folk feel to it, with acoustic
> guitars and whatnot.
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> The Deej
>
> fho...@mail.utexas.edu

You must be young ... That part made us laugh the most. Its "Crosby still BLAH BLAH Suite:Judy Blue Eyes"

The old geezer

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19 years later he ain’t so young anymore!

Martin Gregorie

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I know of two official versions of 'Billy the Mountain', in JABFLA and
Playground Psychotics, neither have anything like

"I'm so hip ... beef pies ...he was born next to the beef pies,
underneath Joni Mitchell's autographed picture"

or

"Frozen (something) pie Frozen (something) pie Frozen (something) pie"

though I can hear where something like that might be ad libbed in the
JABFLA version (just after SH rings his wife when he's making wings).

... so which album has the version of BTM everybody is supposed to know
and where and when was it recorded?


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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