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Piper
Jul 5, 2013, 10:11:50 PM7/5/13
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This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
(And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6TaZdGFudQ
named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
(And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6TaZdGFudQ
Piper
Jul 6, 2013, 7:47:59 AM7/6/13
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http://www.billdahl.com/Pages/feat_tufano.html
Charles Ulrich
Jul 6, 2013, 7:10:34 PM7/6/13
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In article <kr7u2p$3q1$1...@dont-email.me>, Piper <pi...@gatesofdawn.com>
wrote:
> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
Maybe he said that the girl who wrote the letter on the back cover of
Freak Out! ("These Mothers is crazy...") didn't exist. But he also said
that Suzy Creamcheese existed and was Jeannie Vassoir and that later
Pamela Zarubica became Suzy Creamcheese.
> (And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
No, he wasn't. According to Tufano in the video clip, as well as the
article you cited in your next message, the song was written by James
Holvay and Gary Beisbier.
Guercio was their producer.
If Holvay's crush was really named Susan, then she probably wasn't
either Jeannie Vassoir or Pamela Zarubica. And she didn't write the
letter on the back cover of Freak Out! either. So that's at least three
Suzy Creamcheeses in Los Angeles in the 1960s, none of whom wrote the
letter.
But of course: it says right there on the cover that the letter was
written by Suzy Creamcheese of Salt Lake City, Utah, not Los Angeles.
By the way, I remember Kind Of A Drag, but I didn't recognize the song
Susan at all.
--Charles
wrote:
> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
Freak Out! ("These Mothers is crazy...") didn't exist. But he also said
that Suzy Creamcheese existed and was Jeannie Vassoir and that later
Pamela Zarubica became Suzy Creamcheese.
> (And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
article you cited in your next message, the song was written by James
Holvay and Gary Beisbier.
Guercio was their producer.
If Holvay's crush was really named Susan, then she probably wasn't
either Jeannie Vassoir or Pamela Zarubica. And she didn't write the
letter on the back cover of Freak Out! either. So that's at least three
Suzy Creamcheeses in Los Angeles in the 1960s, none of whom wrote the
letter.
But of course: it says right there on the cover that the letter was
written by Suzy Creamcheese of Salt Lake City, Utah, not Los Angeles.
By the way, I remember Kind Of A Drag, but I didn't recognize the song
Susan at all.
--Charles
Charles Ulrich
Jul 6, 2013, 7:17:49 PM7/6/13
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In article <charlesulrich-EBB183.16103406072013@shawnews>,
author of Susan. So does the label of the single
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjoQ4fUw78>.
I wonder if the song was originally written by Holvay and Beisbier (as
Tufano says in the clip you cited) and then Guercio took co-author
credit for adding the part that The Buckinghams didn't even like.
--Charles
Charles Ulrich <charle...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> In article <kr7u2p$3q1$1...@dont-email.me>, Piper <pi...@gatesofdawn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
> > named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
>
> Maybe he said that the girl who wrote the letter on the back cover of
> Freak Out! ("These Mothers is crazy...") didn't exist. But he also said
> that Suzy Creamcheese existed and was Jeannie Vassoir and that later
> Pamela Zarubica became Suzy Creamcheese.
>
> > (And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
>
> No, he wasn't. According to Tufano in the video clip, as well as the
> article you cited in your next message, the song was written by James
> Holvay and Gary Beisbier.
Okay, reading further, the article does say that Guercio was third
> In article <kr7u2p$3q1$1...@dont-email.me>, Piper <pi...@gatesofdawn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
> > named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
>
> Maybe he said that the girl who wrote the letter on the back cover of
> Freak Out! ("These Mothers is crazy...") didn't exist. But he also said
> that Suzy Creamcheese existed and was Jeannie Vassoir and that later
> Pamela Zarubica became Suzy Creamcheese.
>
> > (And one of the songwriters was a certain J.W. Guercio.)
>
> No, he wasn't. According to Tufano in the video clip, as well as the
> article you cited in your next message, the song was written by James
> Holvay and Gary Beisbier.
author of Susan. So does the label of the single
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjoQ4fUw78>.
I wonder if the song was originally written by Holvay and Beisbier (as
Tufano says in the clip you cited) and then Guercio took co-author
credit for adding the part that The Buckinghams didn't even like.
--Charles
Piper
Jul 6, 2013, 11:31:15 PM7/6/13
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Tufano and the Buckinghams were from Chicago.
There was a Whisky a Go Go in Chicago. Tufano says this particular
"Whisky" was on Rush Street. Not the Whisky on the Sunset Strip in
California.
And Guercio and CBS Records should have paid royalties to the estate of
Charles Ives for using the opening to Central Park in the Dark for the
"psychedelic" interlude.
The old geezer
Jul 7, 2013, 7:04:54 AM7/7/13
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On Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:31:15 PM UTC-4, Piper wrote:
> >>> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
>
> >>> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
Thanks a lot, guys. Now I've had the tune "SC" going thru my head all day long. Well, I guess it's better than the "Mr. ED" theme song.......kinda.
> >>> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the Whiskey
>
> >>> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
The old geezer
ND: Organic Dandelion Root Tea
Charles Ulrich
Jul 7, 2013, 2:31:13 PM7/7/13
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In article <8b1c4732-e07c-4390...@googlegroups.com>,
Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
And no one can talk to a cheese. Puh-leeze!
That is, oh jeeze, unless the cheese
Is the famous Suzy C.
Go right to the Strip
And ask the hip
They'll give you an answer that makes you flip
She's always on a downward trip
Talk to Suzy C.
She's never worn fake eyelashes
Or joined the surfing set
Her European trip, she says
Is something she'd like to forget
A cheese is a cheese
Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
And this one'll talk till your brain will freeze
You've never heard of a talking cheese?
Well listen to this:
Hello, teenage America...
--Charles
The old geezer <JY...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:31:15 PM UTC-4, Piper wrote:
>
>
> > >>> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the
> > >>> Whiskey
> >
> > >>> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
>
> Thanks a lot, guys. Now I've had the tune "SC" going thru my head all day
> long. Well, I guess it's better than the "Mr. ED" theme song.......kinda.
A cheese is a cheese
> On Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:31:15 PM UTC-4, Piper wrote:
>
>
> > >>> This guy says that "Susan" was written for a go go dancer at the
> > >>> Whiskey
> >
> > >>> named Suzy Creamcheese (whom F. Zappa said didn't really exist).
>
> Thanks a lot, guys. Now I've had the tune "SC" going thru my head all day
> long. Well, I guess it's better than the "Mr. ED" theme song.......kinda.
Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
And no one can talk to a cheese. Puh-leeze!
That is, oh jeeze, unless the cheese
Is the famous Suzy C.
Go right to the Strip
And ask the hip
They'll give you an answer that makes you flip
She's always on a downward trip
Talk to Suzy C.
She's never worn fake eyelashes
Or joined the surfing set
Her European trip, she says
Is something she'd like to forget
A cheese is a cheese
Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
And this one'll talk till your brain will freeze
You've never heard of a talking cheese?
Well listen to this:
Hello, teenage America...
--Charles
It's that Guy again...
Jul 7, 2013, 7:29:25 PM7/7/13
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On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:31:13 -0700, Charles Ulrich
<charle...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>A cheese is a cheese
>Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
>And no one can talk to a cheese. Puh-leeze!
>That is, oh jeeze, unless the cheese
>Is the famous Suzy C.
>
>Go right to the Strip
>And ask the hip
>They'll give you an answer that makes you flip
>She's always on a downward trip
>Talk to Suzy C.
>
>She's never worn fake eyelashes
>Or joined the surfing set
>Her European trip, she says
>Is something she'd like to forget
>
>A cheese is a cheese
>Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
>And this one'll talk till your brain will freeze
>You've never heard of a talking cheese?
>Well listen to this:
>Hello, teenage America...
>
>--Charles
OH MAN, just great...
<charle...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>A cheese is a cheese
>Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
>And no one can talk to a cheese. Puh-leeze!
>That is, oh jeeze, unless the cheese
>Is the famous Suzy C.
>
>Go right to the Strip
>And ask the hip
>They'll give you an answer that makes you flip
>She's always on a downward trip
>Talk to Suzy C.
>
>She's never worn fake eyelashes
>Or joined the surfing set
>Her European trip, she says
>Is something she'd like to forget
>
>A cheese is a cheese
>Oh jeeze, oh jeeze
>And this one'll talk till your brain will freeze
>You've never heard of a talking cheese?
>Well listen to this:
>Hello, teenage America...
>
>--Charles
I've done a few of those type of things
too, and guy, that was just great..here's another,
not on subject, but hey..go for it....I got sick of folks
cross posting everywhere..well... anyway...
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It's so weein-e,
..a fantasy free-bee.
No one can see thee,
no, not at all <chuckle>
It's another reflection,
..but wears virus infection,
Well secluded,
...they cookie all.
With a bit of a 'bot' flip
You're locked into the Google trip.
And nothing can ever be the same.
You're spaced out on retention.
Like you're under correction...
Let's do the Cross Post again.
Let's do the Cross Post again.
Well I was cruise'n down da groups just a-having a wink
When a spammer of a joke gave me an spy-bot blink.
Got my email off some cross posted coward's lies.
He had a T3 trunk, but Free-Agent eyes.
He ping-ed at me while he slogged the drain.
Norton's means nothing, upgrade time again.
Let's do the Cross Post again.
Let's do the Cross Post again.
It's just a TAB to the left.
And then ctrl-c\v to the right.
Put some ALTs in the heads.
And bring your ISP into sight.
Yet it's the porn-o thrust
That really SPAMS yer mem-brain (AINAINAN) !!!
Let's do the Cross Post again
Let's do the Cross Post again.
===============================
Then there's that idiot 'ray gordon' who inspired:
============================
..U gonna go there! ?"
Fuz 'da Bun: "..I'm gonna spill me some beans ! : "
ROUND 'em UP !!
Well we're ASF shilling..
Big Bad RICO villains
And we scam everyone, ya know
(that sounds like us ? )
We sing about seduction
And we sing about gurlz
as we put on a little show
(yeah, ca-ching! Kiss me, hun..)
We have all kind-a girls
we live out all kind-a thrills
But the 1 thrill we WANNA know..
Is the thrill of that true fame
When you get your real name
On the docket with Gordon Roy
Gordon Roy
"..fucking court.." gonna call out our names..
Parker-boy !
"..fucking judge.." gonna make him explain..
ROY !
Nothing ever gonna be the same..
On the docket with Gordon Roy
He got all of his "..inexcusable failures.."
and that ruins all of his wet dreams..<sad>
He got his own collection of dollies
Re-Writing his "ray-world" schemes...
Now it's not a crime, cause he's so blind..,
But U gotta say it's pretty lame..
unLike the thrill of the true fame
When you get your real name
On the docket with Gordon Roy
Gordon Roy
He's gonna throw all his Meds away....
Parker-boy !
Post in Drag all night and day....
ROY !
But he'll have to fully explain ..
On the docket with Gordon Roy
mASF: hey, we know all about his failures..!!!
<insert teenage guitar solo HERE !>
(spoken)
JJT: "..hey, I'm John Doe #17 !!!"
--------------------------------
"... upon consideration of Plaintiff Gordon Roy Parker's... continued
and inexcusable failure..." {Gordon Roy Parker v. "et. al".}
02-CV-7215 (Feb. 25, 2003, Federal District Court, Eastern District,
Pennsylvania)
--------------------------------
THE WORLD:: Counter sue his ass, Google !!!..
He dreams of underaged gymnasts "..sexual performers.."
& that fuels up his wet dreams: "..if it were legal."
He's got a made up hooker named, um, 'hellen'..
Earning money to get him laid... ha ha ha ha ha
He gets all the jobs $10k n failures provide.,
Still he whines cause he's all alone..
Yet we keep gettin' richer,
..still he can't get our signature
On the docket with Gordon Roy
Gordon Roy
He'll make all the "cunts" and "whores" pay...
Parker-boy !
"..if it were legal.." children, he would slay !..
Gordon ROY !
I just wonder what the Judge will say....
On the docket with Gordon Roy
Talking:
I don't know why we ain't in no courtroom, baby!
He's an "..inexcusable failure.." at it, ya know..!
I ain't kiddin' you man, we'd make great defendants..
I mean, I can see it right now--we be up front,
Oh, we be laughing so hard......beautiful!
===============================
...and..... www.rayfaq.com
===============================
------------Sung to the N.Y. Dolls song "Personality Crisis" ----
YEEEAAHHHHH!!! YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH..
<WAIT> NO NO NO NO ..NO NO NO.. N0! N0!
Well we can't take him this week
And his dolls don't need another S-P-E-A-CCCCC-HHH !!!
Hoping for a better day when this newsloon just goes away..
all' about that "..inexcusable failure.."
...if he likes it &/or no-t..
But now his um, 'hellen' & herpes, 'dats whot he got..
(Judge had'a rule about that "..inexcusable..")
yeah...yeah yeah yeah...
But now he needs to be a man, now he got to be 'da man'..
AND he KNOWS he gots to do it all, NOW NOW WOWS !!!
But he thinks about the times he failed, on every account..
when it sure got to be a 'drag' when he wanted 2 kill his'self..
he has to deal with "..AOL.." chat rooms where he molested about
(He molest' 'bout..)
All 'bout his "..inexcusable failure.."
..a Judge told him that.....that's what he got..
But now his mommie, and dollies, 'dats all he got..
Judge GOTTA SHOUT ABOUT HIS "..inexcusable.."
YEAH YEAH YEAH...YEAH...
<break for crowd to think the song is over..>
And he's a... coward hate monger on that 9/11 afternoon..
<livin proof of a real loonie-toon ! ! >
change on into da sock-puppet, fooling no 1 2 soon..
he WETS his UNDER-ROOOOOSSSSSS!!!!!!
......"..inexcusable failure.."
if he likes it &/or no-t....It's always "..NOT.."
But now um, 'hellen' and herpes ' dats whot he got..
That loser "..INEXCUSABLE FAILURE !!!!.."
YEAH YEAH..YEAH YEAH..
Now, with all da perks and free rides that his mommie pays
His dollies become his 'private friends' nite n day..
That "..inexcusable.." 's (failing to do it all againnnnn)
(ah ah..no longer fun..)
"..inexcusable.." will his pain ever end..?
<not 2 B so much like a..>
"..inexcusable.." impression of a joke,
..n 2 pretend 2 pretend 2 pretend too pretend,
"..inexcusable ..".." dreams of celebrities he'll never meet
(he lives their life off television)
Talkin' about that "..inexcusable failure.."
if he likes it &/or no-t....It's always "..NOT.."
But now um, 'hellen' and herpes ' dats whot he got..
hey grp-ie don't you worry
"..inexcusable failure.." please don't cry
he's just a "..inexcusable failure.." and cannot stop
Because he walks a "..inexcusable.."
Talks a "..inexcusable failure.."
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Anyway, guy that SCC one was real good..Mr. Ed would be proud...
JJTj
Dirk Van de moortel
Jul 9, 2013, 11:52:02 AM7/9/13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzy_Creamcheese
I someone has some reliable sources, feel free to hone - Wikipedia is yours.
Dirk Vdm
derek from the internet
Nov 17, 2015, 2:19:59 PM11/17/15
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Charles Ulrich
Nov 17, 2015, 2:29:11 PM11/17/15
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Mower B. Yard
Nov 17, 2015, 11:10:27 PM11/17/15
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Scheila doing the ya-ya-ya-ya-ya part was a highlight.
We are still singing it to each other 6 weeks later.
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