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nycfan

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Apr 25, 2002, 4:42:28 PM4/25/02
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What's up with the rumor from the VH-1 movie about Frank eating shit
on stage?? I never heard that before. Can someone shed some light on
that for me. Thank you!

Lloyd Devonshire

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Apr 25, 2002, 4:48:00 PM4/25/02
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"nycfan" <ho...@cegmusic.com> wrote in message
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> What's up with the rumor from the VH-1 movie about Frank eating shit
> on stage?? I never heard that before. Can someone shed some light on
> that for me. Thank you!

The rumor is usually this: Alice Cooper joined Frank on stage, and they
proceeded to have a gross-out contest including the aforementioned act of
coprophagy.

The light to be shed is: What Frank said about the rumor in the movie is
exactly what he said about it in real life.

My own take: The rumor is spread by people who really only know Frank from
the Phi Zappa Krappa poster. It's in the same realm as someone who wrote the
line about "wink, wink, drank purple kool-aid I got from Frank": He's a
"foul-mouthed wild and crazy rock-and-roller" so he must take drugs and have
gross-out contests.

He never did it, man. And like Dee Snider said, Alice never killed a
chicken, either, but Ozzy really bit the head off a bat.

One out of three ain't bad.


Sam Rouse

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:32:25 PM4/25/02
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In article <ucgqvv8...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Lloyd Devonshire" <no-...@noemail.com> wrote:

It was a dead bat, though. The dove, on the other hand, was live.
-

OO

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:50:49 PM4/25/02
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In his book, he denied everything about this rumour.... From here, pls said
he did that at a Québec show nearly 1976......
False all the way if you manage to know a "bit" about FZ.......
Really.....

"OO"

"The world's most plentiful ingredient is STUPIDITY"(Zappa)

"nycfan" <ho...@cegmusic.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
60a3bde7.0204...@posting.google.com...

-**NINJA**-

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:36:40 PM4/25/02
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i eat shit on stage all the time

twinkees

cupcakes

cookies

chocolate chocolate and more chocolate

apple pie


Its not your fault son,The devil made you do it

-**NINJA**-

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Apr 25, 2002, 5:38:52 PM4/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:32:25 -0700, Sam Rouse <sama...@newsguy.com>
wrote:


the next time i run in to him im gonna bitch slap him

for hurtin that little birdie

kiz...@attbi.com

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Apr 25, 2002, 6:44:25 PM4/25/02
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He did it for the corn...

David Wills

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:10:40 PM4/25/02
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Sam Rouse wrote:
>
> It was a dead bat, though.


not quite. rubber bats were used as props and thrown on stage
untill...

someone in the crowd threw a REAL dead bat onstage and of course ozzy
thinking it was rubber bit the head off as Sharon was motioning to ozzy
in horror 'its real dummy'. so off the ozz man went to the hospital for
those rabies shots.

The Late Budie Holie

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:55:24 PM4/25/02
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I heard the bat was taken in for Ozzy shots.


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Kevin C. McDonald

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Apr 25, 2002, 8:08:59 PM4/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:38:52 -0400, -**NINJA**- <**NI...@SWORD.EDG**>
wrote:

Now THAT would be a funny "The Osbornes" episode. Not that the others
are anything but delightful.

KCM


Dave White

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Apr 25, 2002, 8:30:11 PM4/25/02
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I have a tape of an interview with Frank where he said this rumor was made
up by people who were burned out on too much acid. There is absolutely NO
truth to it whatsoever.

Dave


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Sneelock

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Apr 25, 2002, 10:55:05 PM4/25/02
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I think this is an Urban Legend like the Vanishing Hitchhiker. I've
even heard the exact same story but with Ted Nugent instead of FZ.

Provide your own punchline.

Bloody Mary


-**NINJA** eats shit!

Greg Henry

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Apr 25, 2002, 11:18:18 PM4/25/02
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Dear God! You made my day. I haven't laughed that hard in way too long.
Thank you.

-g

Michael Gula

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Apr 25, 2002, 11:41:29 PM4/25/02
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Sneelock wrote:
>
> I think this is an Urban Legend like the Vanishing Hitchhiker. I've
> even heard the exact same story but with Ted Nugent instead of FZ.
>
> Provide your own punchline.

Ted Nugent is the son of Mr. Green Jeans?

Mr. 392

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Apr 26, 2002, 2:23:11 AM4/26/02
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Maybe they mistook Frank for G.G. Allin.Hey, they thought he was
Duane Allman... ;)


Mike Patton

Ville Kinnunen

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Apr 26, 2002, 2:46:48 AM4/26/02
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On 25 Apr 2002 13:42:28 -0700, ho...@cegmusic.com (nycfan) wrote:

If you have read it somewhere or seen it on tv, it must be true. Black
on white = true.

Ed Mann

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Apr 26, 2002, 8:30:46 AM4/26/02
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*****I forget the specifics but I do remember Frank explaining how
that rumor got started - it was silly stuff - and absolutely no truth
to it whatsoever - something like pretending to eat a stage prop and a
certain press individual....I am sure tha Gail knows.

OK

*e

-**NINJA**-

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Apr 26, 2002, 8:54:13 AM4/26/02
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maybe you could ask her she doenst like us

GeorgeCO

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Apr 26, 2002, 9:51:03 AM4/26/02
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Ville Kinnunen wrote:

Yes, and this is one the few eternal "Zappa legend" that will absolutely
never vanish and will probably survive not only everyone here but anyone
born this day and probably longer.

FZ himself in The Real Frank Zappa Book told about a guy from some band in
the late '60s who asked him (Zappa) about it and, who,upon hearing from
Zappa himself that he'd never done anything of the sort was absolutely
crushed because he thought Zappa was so fantastically cool for doing the
"shit bit" which he never did. FZ said he almost felt bad for this poor
nitwit upon breaking him this sad news to him. After that, FZ always
recounted the story of the Holiday Inn in Fayetteville, SC in whose dining
facility he felt that he'd come about as close to eating shit as you can
without actually doing it!

--GeorgeCO

John Henley

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Apr 26, 2002, 9:48:57 AM4/26/02
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In article <ucgqvv8...@corp.supernews.com>, "Lloyd Devonshire"
<no-...@noemail.com> wrote:

> My own take: The rumor is spread by people who really only know Frank from
> the Phi Zappa Krappa poster. It's in the same realm as someone who wrote the
> line about "wink, wink, drank purple kool-aid I got from Frank": He's a
> "foul-mouthed wild and crazy rock-and-roller" so he must take drugs and have
> gross-out contests.

In sort of the same vein, the used-CD-&-LP store
near where I work, which almost always has some
FZ in the racks, some time ago altered the name
tag on the LP divider to say: "Frank 'Poo-Poo' Zappa'

If you think this doesn't express an attitude, I
was in there last week and somebody'd unloaded a Verve
copy of Lumpy Gravy. On the price tag, right under-
neath the $19.95, the clerk had written:
"The Dangerously Over-Rated Frank Zappa"

Sigh.

John Henley
Austin TX

computeruser

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Apr 26, 2002, 11:04:56 AM4/26/02
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John Henley <jhe...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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I would say "The Dangerously Under-Rated Frank Zappa"

Lumpy Gravy is a masterpiece.


computeruser

Whoopysnorp

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Apr 26, 2002, 6:48:36 PM4/26/02
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Mr. 392 <mr...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe they mistook Frank for G.G. Allin.Hey, they thought he was
> Duane Allman... ;)
>
>
> Mike Patton
>

You shouldn't impersonate Mike Patton.


Gary

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Apr 26, 2002, 7:17:44 PM4/26/02
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I understand that Frank had the clonemeister du jour eat the shit in
rehearsal, but when it came time on stage, Frank couldn't bring
himself to do it.

Ville Kinnunen

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Apr 27, 2002, 2:36:41 AM4/27/02
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LOL

Lewis R. Saul

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Apr 27, 2002, 2:46:30 AM4/27/02
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> If you think this doesn't express an attitude, I
> was in there last week and somebody'd unloaded a Verve
> copy of Lumpy Gravy. On the price tag, right under-
> neath the $19.95, the clerk had written:
> "The Dangerously Over-Rated Frank Zappa"
>
> Sigh.
>
> John Henley
> Austin TX

This sounds like one of John Cusack's friends in "High Fidelity" -- or Diane
Keaton and Michael Murphy in "Manhattan," speaking of Mahler and Van Gogh as
"over-rated"...

These people need to take a spin on the cosmic utensil for chrissakes.
Dangerously Over-Rated...

Go punch that guy out, John...


Mr. 392

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Apr 27, 2002, 2:51:24 AM4/27/02
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I didn't say WHICH Mike Patton, did I? ;)

Trey Spruance

Ed Mann

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Apr 27, 2002, 8:51:46 AM4/27/02
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> >*****I forget the specifics but I do remember Frank explaining how
> >that rumor got started - it was silly stuff - and absolutely no truth
> >to it whatsoever - something like pretending to eat a stage prop and a
> >certain press individual....I am sure tha Gail knows.
> >
> >OK
> >
> >*e
>
>
>
> maybe you could ask her she doenst like us

**I think maybe she does....but it is just not readily
apparent.Although I cannot speak for her. I have no bad feelings
toward Gail. Read that interview w/her up on their site. That really
brings through the whole Zappa experience - and a great understanding
of Frank and Gail.
*ed

Ed Mann

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Apr 27, 2002, 8:54:19 AM4/27/02
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Ville Kinnunen <ville.k...@spammenot.iki.fi.invalid> wrote in message news:<jnhkcuk3ce0trgvd5...@4ax.com>...

**not true. Frank always treated the clonemeister(s) with respect. BTW
- historical trivia - that name "clonemeister" comes from me and
Tommy Mars.

*ed

Ville Kinnunen

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Apr 28, 2002, 2:27:42 AM4/28/02
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How did you like being the clonemeister? Did you at any point wonder
if a certain passage could be played in a certain way, to your and not
FZ's likeness? And if you did, how did you tell it to Him?

Ed Mann

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Apr 28, 2002, 9:16:36 AM4/28/02
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> >
> >**not true. Frank always treated the clonemeister(s) with respect. BTW
> > - historical trivia - that name "clonemeister" comes from me and
> >Tommy Mars.
>
> How did you like being the clonemeister? Did you at any point wonder
> if a certain passage could be played in a certain way, to your and not
> FZ's likeness? And if you did, how did you tell it to Him?

*I was honored that Frank chose me for the job after only one year
with the outfit -altho the way it came down was odd - I just walked
into rehearsal one day and Tommy said -"Ed - Frank called and said you
are the new rehearsal director, starting now - he will be in later,
wants you to get started right away.."

But I did not enjoy the gig because I would have prefered to have been
an equal/colleague with the band members and not the guy who makes
sure that they show up on time. learn the parts etc. Vinnie at the
time - was a very free spirited individual - that showed in his
playing too - fucking brilliant. But it was difficult for me to reign
that free spiritedness into the confines of Frank's strucured
expectations. I would have rather just been able to lay back and dig
everything that he was doing. Anyway- after that year was over I quit,
and the gig went to Arthur - who is without a doubt the best
clonemeister ever.

Frank and I lways saw eye to eye on phrasing - I think he hired me
becasue of the way I phrase thigs- I remember when we recorded the
Black Page - before I was in the band - there was a certain passage
that I played on wood things rthat was very pronounced in the
recording - he looked at me and nodded and said - "yeah!"

But Frank liked things phrased edgey - toward the front of the beat -
in yeasr since I have been learning to phrase in back of the beat -
which took some time given how long I played for Frank.

I really loved working with Frank. We had some great times.

tonyw...@hotmail.com

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Apr 28, 2002, 9:29:24 AM4/28/02
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Ed Mann <edm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> But I did not enjoy the gig because I would have prefered to have been
> an equal/colleague with the band members and not the guy who makes
> sure that they show up on time. learn the parts etc. Vinnie at the
> time - was a very free spirited individual - that showed in his
> playing too - fucking brilliant. But it was difficult for me to reign
> that free spiritedness into the confines of Frank's strucured
> expectations.

That pretty much sums up what I feel about teaching. I don't want to be the
one who makes them stay in to finish their homework or forces them to do
their maths quietly else they won't understand it, but there's no other way.
If you let them have too good a time, they don't end up learning as much, or
knowing how to behave.

Not that I could teach a Zappa band, but I can empathise - we all want to be
able to pull our trousers up to our armpits and walk around on our knees
with dustbin lids on our heads, but a primary school environment is not the
one to do it in.


As I found out...


0vercooked

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Apr 28, 2002, 10:05:11 AM4/28/02
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:29:24 +0000 (UTC), tonyw...@hotmail.com wrote:

>we all want to be
>able to pull our trousers up to our armpits and walk around on our knees
>with dustbin lids on our heads, but a primary school environment is not the
>one to do it in.

Thanks for the sig


" we all want to be
able to pull our trousers up to our armpits and walk around on our knees
with dustbin lids on our heads, but a primary school environment is not the
one to do it in."

-T.Wilkes

Whoopysnorp

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Apr 28, 2002, 11:25:46 AM4/28/02
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Mr. 392 <mr...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I didn't say WHICH Mike Patton, did I? ;)
>
> Trey Spruance
>

Oh! Oh! There you go again!

Pike Matton


MC

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May 2, 2002, 6:59:38 PM5/2/02
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Whoopysnorp wrote:

He's cuckoo for caca!

Bil Hansen

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May 3, 2002, 2:09:58 AM5/3/02
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Coprophagy is discussed in a short article in the 25 April issue of
the UK-based science journal Nature (Vol 416 No. 6883, p. 807
http://www.nature.com).

The article, by 8 biologists and food biotechnologists based in Spain,
discusses the shit-eating habits of the rare Egyptian vulture.

The authors, who declared they have no financial interest in promoting
shit-eating, said coprophagy was rare among birds, because: shit has a
high level of parasites; it is a poor source of nutrients (less than
5% protein and 0.5% fat); and it takes time and effort to search for
it without nutrient compensation.

The Egyptian vulture, they show scientifically, eats cow shit and bull
shit (and sheep and goat shit too) because such shit has a high level
of carotenoids (high in relative terms: the authors cite 185
micrograms of carotenoid per gram of sheep shit and 36 micrograms of
carotenoid per gram of cow shit).

Carotenoids are valuable micronutrients for vertebrates because of
their antioxidant and immunostimulant properties and because
vertebrates cannot make carotenoids themselves and so have to get them
via eating. The Egyptian vulture has a bright yellow head, so the
pigments of the carotenoids do not go to waste.

So Carrot-Headed Vulture, not Potato-Headed Bobby, this time around.
Or maybe not: doesn't the word 'carrot' just mean 'head'? Anyway,
vegetables are involved.

Cheers

Bil
--
Bil Hansen
P Pinang, Malaysia

NINJA

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May 9, 2002, 8:47:31 AM5/9/02
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is this worse than drugs ?

i doubt it

DRUGS

Its not your fault son, zappa made you do them

dont like this country then move the fuck away

and heres a little kick in the ass to send you on your way




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