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Anybody know which Zappa band memebers were gay?

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Muffin Man

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Aug 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/6/98
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Just curious, I have certain suspiscions (Terry Bozzio aka "Punky's
Whips"), but who out there knows?


Ron Spiegelhalter

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In article <01bdc0d1$1a48fa10$5f57ba9b@srinic>, jncon...@hotmail.com
mumbled something like...

> Just curious, I have certain suspiscions (Terry Bozzio aka "Punky's
> Whips"), but who out there knows?
>
Uhh...isn't Bozzio on his second wife now, the first being Dale? That
would rule him out I think, though not necessarily I suppose.

I think this thread came up about two months ago, and no one seemed to
have much to say about it then. Of course none of this is anybody's
business, but what the fuck, I'll speculate...

Pretty sure Smothers is gay, right? How about Thunes? Not sure where I
heard that one. After that, I think I'd be going on looks alone, and I'm
not sure that's fair. What about Lisa Popeil? If we can count her as a
band member (highly arguable), do I remember reading somewhere that she's
of the lesbian persuasion?
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ron
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Now you say "good for you"
Maybe it's a certain enzyme you lack
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Michael Pierry

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I asked that very same question, several moons ago, but got nothing but B.S.
Terry Bozzio is probably not gay, since he is now in his second marriage (to a
woman). Somebody else said Mike Keneally is gay, too, which I also don't
think is true because he is married and has a daughter.

Roger Dilworth

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The ones whose dicks taste like shayte.

Ron Spiegelhalter

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In article <6qd55d$j...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
asa...@worldnet.att.net mumbled something like...

>
> The ones whose dicks taste like shayte.

Are you volunteering for the taste-test? ;-)

Emperor of Ice Cream

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He say, she say, I'ma tella you what...

>Just curious, I have certain suspiscions (Terry Bozzio aka "Punky's
>Whips"), but who out there knows?
>
And while we're discussing totally irrelevant matters:

Which were born on Thursday?
Which had bad eyesight?
Which had visited Portugal?


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Mistah Kurtz, he dead...

Gigantic1

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hasn't Motorhead Sherwood been seen at Detour and Rage and Roosterfish?
patootey

JYOB

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Aug 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/6/98
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> Anybody know which Zappa band memebers were gay?

Don't ask.....Don't tell! WHO CARES!!!

Were any Zappa band members Chicago Cubs Fans????

Carl & Dennis Wilson

Bossk (R)

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Aug 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/6/98
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Michael Pierry wrote:

> I asked that very same question, several moons ago, but got
> nothing but B.S.

You got nothing but bisexuals? Damn!

> Terry Bozzio is probably not gay, since he is now in his second
> marriage (to a woman).

This does not preclude (is that a real word?), however, a real crush on
Punky Meadows, which many people seem to think; neither does it preclude (?)
having hung out in gay bars with fellow band members[mumble] and [mumble].
But it seems you'll never trust me on that.

> Somebody else said Mike Keneally is gay, too, which I also
> don't think is true because he is married and has a daughter.

Yes - this one was posted in the highly dubious "list of gay band members",
said to originate "with a roadie", which also included Bobby Martin: the
otherwise recycled lore is that Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS
was why Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T STAND HIM and
the '88 tour crash-landed. I don't know if this is true or not; the only
(circumstancial) evidence I know of is 1) Scott is being pointed at in the
"He's So Gay" video, and 2) "butt-fuck", used as a secret word on the '88
tour, was identified by Mike Keneally as having originated with some
"Mann/Thunes bickering". Neither of these have anything to do with Bobby,
though.

--- johan <wik...@mbox301.swipnet.se>

"It's not legal yet!"
- Michelle Reis, FONG SAI-YUK 2, Hong Kong 1993 (English subtitle)

Jon Naurin

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Ron Spiegelhalter writes:

>Pretty sure Smothers is gay, right?

An Italian friend of mine used to hang around with the Zappa gang on the 1982
and 1984 tours. Once, in 1984 I think, the ol' Iron Sausage asked my friend to
fix some girls for him, a mission he did not accomplish. As a punishment,
Smothers hindered him to see the first 30 min of the show that night.

- Jon


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Pher

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Aug 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/7/98
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>I have certain suspiscions (Terry Bozzio aka "Punky's
>Whips")

Just a joke song sang from a teenager's point of view.

BOZZIO = TOO DICK SUCKING AND FUCKING HOT TO BE GAY = TRUE

PAPA <> GAY
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Tal

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Bossk (R) heeft geschreven in bericht
<7_py1.3507$JR2.5...@nntpserver.swip.net>...

>
>Yes - this one was posted in the highly dubious "list of gay band members",
>said to originate "with a roadie", which also included Bobby Martin: the
>otherwise recycled lore is that Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS
>was why Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T STAND HIM and
>the '88 tour crash-landed. I don't know if this is true or not; the only
>(circumstancial) evidence I know of is 1) Scott is being pointed at in the
>"He's So Gay" video, and 2) "butt-fuck", used as a secret word on the '88
>tour, was identified by Mike Keneally as having originated with some
>"Mann/Thunes bickering". Neither of these have anything to do with Bobby,
>though.


From everything I read the reason Scott was not liked by some 88 bandmembers
was that Scott just is not one of the most communative and friendly people.
He just wasn't as nice a guy as Artie Barrow was. But a great bassplayer.
And you might just want to consider the possibility that he contributed to
the high level of playing during the 88 tour.

Whatever Scott's sexual preferences were/are, he had a girlfriend according
to Mike's reports and recently got married to a German girl called Ute (I
think) according to either T'Mershi Duween or Bryan Beller.

Bobby Martin looked like a gay-icon in DHBIM. Are we going to doubt his
sexual preferences now? And how about the cluster-fuck? And the stuff going
in Uncle Meat with JC Black and Don Preston (?)?

Anyway, good question. Let me add these to big issues:
- Why did Mr and Mrs Underwood split up?
- Whatever happened to FZ's dad, Mr.Green Jeans?
- Is Pinky's Whopper green?


--Tal
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Cherone

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Aug 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/7/98
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>"list of gay band members",
>said to originate "with a roadie", which also included Bobby Martin:

>Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS


>was why Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T STAND HIM

Is it just me or do these two statements completely contradict each other
concerning Bobby Martin's sexual status?!?!?!?!

>1) Scott is being pointed at in the
>"He's So Gay" video,

Gee, then it must be true! =p


Scott "Penguin In Bondage" Fischer
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Cherone

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>Don't ask.....Don't tell! WHO CARES!!!
>
>Were any Zappa band members Chicago Cubs Fans????

I heard this rumor that Scott was a HUUUGE Cubs fans but Bobby and Ed Man loved
the Chicago White Sox so there was this big falling out as a result..... ;p

Bossk (R)

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Cherone wrote:

> > ... "list of gay band members", said to originate "with
> > a roadie", which also included Bobby Martin ...


>
> > Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS was why
> > Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T

> > STAND HIM ...


>
> Is it just me or do these two statements completely contradict
> each other concerning Bobby Martin's sexual status?!

That was my POINT: contrasting the "list of gay band members" with "usual
newsgroup lore", to POINT OUT this contradiction. Congratulations on
spotting it anyway.

--- johan <wik...@mbox301.swipnet.se>

"I've told you!"
- Lau Kar-Fai, SHAOLIN & WUDANG, Hong Kong 1983 (English subtitle)

Bob Eichler

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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On Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:21:18 GMT, nau...@mbox300.swopnet.se (Jon
Naurin) wrote:

>Ron Spiegelhalter writes:
>
>>Pretty sure Smothers is gay, right?
>
>An Italian friend of mine used to hang around with the Zappa gang on the 1982
>and 1984 tours. Once, in 1984 I think, the ol' Iron Sausage asked my friend to
>fix some girls for him, a mission he did not accomplish. As a punishment,
>Smothers hindered him to see the first 30 min of the show that night.


When I first read that, I used the MST3K crew's pronunciation of
"hinder". The sentence took on a much different meaning.

-- Bob "Been watching too much MST3K" Eichler


Mike Puterbaugh

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> > > Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS was why
> > > Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T
> > > STAND HIM ...
> >
> > Is it just me or do these two statements completely contradict
> > each other concerning Bobby Martin's sexual status?!
>
>That was my POINT: contrasting the "list of gay band members" with "usual
>newsgroup lore", to POINT OUT this contradiction. Congratulations on
>spotting it anyway.
> --- johan <wik...@mbox301.swipnet.se>

Of course, in reality, ALL GAY PEOPLE like each other...

Bobby could have hated Scott for being "the wrong kind of gay"
(theoretically, of course. I have no knowledge of nor interest in the
sexual orientation of either man).

It Never Entered My Mind

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On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 02:36:06 GMT, mb...@cornell.edu (Mike Puterbaugh)
wrote:

Personally, I have nothing against the couples - the married gays.
The ones I can't stand ... it's those tramps in the bars ! Ya know,
the married ones, they're all right. But those in the bars...THOSE
BUMS!

JWB

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All of these assumptions make me sick. Keneally is happily married with a
kid. Bobby Martin and Scott Thunes are both married. What indication is
there that any of them might be gay? Because Bobby Martin wore high cut
shorts in 1984? Everyone did! DUH.

The facts:

- Who cares
- Just because Bozzio is married doesn't mean he might not be bisexual, as
has been hinted
- O'Hearn and Bozzio frequented gay bars together
- Just because Smothers grabbed peoples asses and taunted Bozzio doesn't
mean he's gay
- Most of the band members who have been ACCUSED of being gay are married
- Who cares

Draw your own conclusions, stereotypical or not.

--

John W. Busher
muds...@ptdprolog.net

It Never Entered My Mind

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On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 02:36:06 GMT, mb...@cornell.edu (Mike Puterbaugh)
wrote:

>> > > Scott Thunes is gay (or bisexual) and THIS was why
>> > > Bobby Martin (and, by some means, Ed Mann) COULDN'T
>> > > STAND HIM ...
>> >
>> > Is it just me or do these two statements completely contradict
>> > each other concerning Bobby Martin's sexual status?!
>>
>>That was my POINT: contrasting the "list of gay band members" with "usual
>>newsgroup lore", to POINT OUT this contradiction. Congratulations on
>>spotting it anyway.
>> --- johan <wik...@mbox301.swipnet.se>
>
>Of course, in reality, ALL GAY PEOPLE like each other...
>
>Bobby could have hated Scott for being "the wrong kind of gay"
>(theoretically, of course. I have no knowledge of nor interest in the
>sexual orientation of either man).

re: the previous posting, was Lenny Bruce paraphrased.

Pher

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I think O'Hearn and Bozzio would have made a great couple. But like everyone
else is saying, "who cares". By the way, who is Smothers? Is he the iron
sausage body guard guy? If not, who is that?
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