Who's the bass player on WAKA/JAWAKA
Charles Ulrich
In article <3501DE74...@cmr.no>, Tom Lislegaard <t...@cmr.no> wrote:
> I'm just listening to WAKA/JAWAKA and wondering who tha bass player is.
> The sleeve (RYCO disc) says
> 'Erroneous - electric bass'.
> Anybody know who the bassplayer was ?
> Could be Roy Estrada from the sound of it, but I can't imagine why he
> would have to use an alias ??
Another one for the faq.
Alex Dmochowski, formerly of Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation, and either an
illegal alien or at least not a member of the Musician's Union.
--Charles
Tom Lislegaard
I'm just listening to WAKA/JAWAKA and wondering who tha bass player is.
The sleeve (RYCO disc) says
'Erroneous - electric bass'.
Anybody know who the bassplayer was ?
Could be Roy Estrada from the sound of it, but I can't imagine why he
would have to use an alias ??
-tom
JYOB
Was it Michael j. Pollard?? Al Jardine??? Jimmy Greenspoon????
Bossk (R)
I'm sure "Erroneous" is in some FAQ somewhere. His last name is Dmochowsky,
and I always seem to get his first name wrong. The legend is that they
listed him as "Erroneous" because he wasn't a member of the musicians union.
--- johan <wik...@mbox301.swipnet.se>
Prez Zappa
listed there as bass player. Also, in the accompaning booklet (The Legend of
Cleetus Awreetus-Awrightus & The Grand Wazoo) Still miffed though.
Later, Cliff
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Erroneous Erroneous Erroneous - cool name huh?
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Tom Lislegaard wrote in message <3501DE74...@cmr.no>...
RDNZL88
Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
Dialectic of Poodle Play).
Robert S. Carter
I'm pretty sure Erroneous was playing bass in Jon Mayall's band circa
1990 (with Coco Montoya on guitar). Bob.
Steve Cobham
On 9 Mar 1998 05:23:26 GMT, rdn...@aol.com (RDNZL88) wrote:
>Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
>question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
>Dialectic of Poodle Play).
Ben Watson is correct.
Alex was the bass player in Aynsley Dunbar's Retaliation - pre-Zappa -
and I saw the band many times around London in their heyday. Alex had
a justified reputation as somewhat of a hard-hitting player. From the
part of my mind that wassn't too stoned at the time, I seem to recall
one gig where he broke three strings, but not all at once. Let's see,
Victor Brox was on vocals and pocket trumpet, and the guitarist was
John Morshead (?). Good band, sort of second league beneath Mayall and
Fleetwood Mac in terms of pecking order.
But why "Erroneous"? Perhaps it was some sort of comment on the
misspelling of his name that used to happen in the music press here?
I wonder what he's doing now?
Steve.
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Martin Higgs
On 9 Mar 1998 05:23:26 GMT, rdn...@aol.com (RDNZL88) wrote:
>Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
>question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
>Dialectic of Poodle Play).
>
Ben Watson states that Alex Dmochowski was a session player,
previously he was also in Ansley Dunbar's band in the UK, 'Aynsley
Dunbar's Retaliation', so I would guess that Aynsley introduced Alex D
to FZ.
Martin...........
Patrick Neve
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Robert S. Carter wrote:
> RDNZL88 wrote:
> >
> > Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
> > question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
> > Dialectic of Poodle Play).
>
> I'm pretty sure Erroneous was playing bass in Jon Mayall's band circa
> 1990 (with Coco Montoya on guitar). Bob.
That would make sense since John Mayall produced at least one Aynsley
Dunbar Retalliation album, with Alex on it.
Paul Hinrichs
"Robert S. Carter" <rs...@hhmi.upenn.edu> wrote:
>RDNZL88 wrote:
>>
>> Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
>> question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
>> Dialectic of Poodle Play).
>I'm pretty sure Erroneous was playing bass in Jon Mayall's band circa
>1990 (with Coco Montoya on guitar). Bob.
Yeah, he also played on an album by Country Joe.
Bill
Robert S. Carter wrote:
>
> RDNZL88 wrote:
> >
> > Why he called himself "Erroneous" is beyond me, however the bass player in
> > question is Alex Dmochowski (according to Ben Watson's book "the Negative
> > Dialectic of Poodle Play).
>
> I'm pretty sure Erroneous was playing bass in Jon Mayall's band circa
> 1990 (with Coco Montoya on guitar). Bob.
I think Alex D. also played with Peter Green.
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Dennis Moody
> I'm just listening to WAKA/JAWAKA and wondering who tha bass player is.
> The sleeve (RYCO disc) says
> 'Erroneous - electric bass'.
> Anybody know who the bassplayer was ?
> Could be Roy Estrada from the sound of it, but I can't imagine why he
> would have to use an alias ??
>
> -tom
Tom Fowler probably, he was very active in Franks band at this time...
Tom Tuerff
In article <dennismoody-ya02308...@news.compuserve.com>,
denni...@compuserve.com (Dennis Moody) wrote:
Erroneous is not Tom Fowler, nor Roy Estrada. I forget his name but his
picture is on the cover of Grand Wazoo. He used the name Erroneous because
his record company wouldn't give him permission to record on another label
using his real name.
TT
Claude Kuhnen
Tom Tuerff schrieb:
(according to ben watson)
Patrick Neve
On 15 Mar 1998, Tom Tuerff wrote:
> Erroneous is not Tom Fowler, nor Roy Estrada. I forget his name but his
> picture is on the cover of Grand Wazoo. He used the name Erroneous because
> his record company wouldn't give him permission to record on another label
> using his real name.
Here's a spaced-out picture of Erroneous, if you always wondered what he
looked like. Also a discography and some recent AFFZ banter.
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~splat/Erroneous.html
Dan The Kitti Man
In article <6ejm68$itd$1...@news01.btx.dtag.de>, Claude...@t-online.de
gleefully giggled...
> you're right. his real name is alex dmochowski, a session player
is it just me, or do the same questions come up a lot?
if i may explain, here are the answers to the most frequently asked
questions.
alex dmochowski was the son of mr. green genes
RDNZL stands for "zappa ate shit onstage"
erroneous was the daughter of a wealthy florentine pogen
(erroneous was alwo a conehead kind of a girl kind of a guy kind of a
girl-thing)
there really was a composer named francesco renaldi. he composed a
spaghetti sauce.
despite rumors to the contrary, jean-luc ponty did not blow into his
violin
anything else?
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Kristian Kier
>In article <6ejm68$itd$1...@news01.btx.dtag.de>, Claude...@t-online.de
>gleefully giggled...
>> you're right. his real name is alex dmochowski, a session player
>
>is it just me, or do the same questions come up a lot?
>
>if i may explain, here are the answers to the most frequently asked
>questions.
>
>alex dmochowski was the son of mr. green genes
>
>RDNZL stands for "zappa ate shit onstage"
>
>erroneous was the daughter of a wealthy florentine pogen
>(erroneous was alwo a conehead kind of a girl kind of a guy kind of a
>girl-thing)
>
>there really was a composer named francesco renaldi. he composed a
>spaghetti sauce.
>
>despite rumors to the contrary, jean-luc ponty did not blow into his
>violin
>
>anything else?
Didn´t Deep Purple caused the fire in Montreux?
-Kristian
APPAZ200M
RDNZL=REDUNZEL
Hanzo
In article <3513f2ac...@news.w-i-s.net>
KrK...@rocco.wupper.de (Kristian Kier) writes:
No, they only smoked on the water.
Hanzo
Harald Wiester
Kristian Kier wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:51:12 -0500,
> DanK...@NOSPAMPLEASEworldnet.att.net (Dan The Kitti Man) wrote:
>
> >In article <6ejm68$itd$1...@news01.btx.dtag.de>, Claude...@t-online.de
> >gleefully giggled...
> >> you're right. his real name is alex dmochowski, a session player
> >
> >is it just me, or do the same questions come up a lot?
> >
> >if i may explain, here are the answers to the most frequently asked
> >questions.
> >
> >alex dmochowski was the son of mr. green genes
> >
> >RDNZL stands for "zappa ate shit onstage"
> >
> >erroneous was the daughter of a wealthy florentine pogen
> >(erroneous was alwo a conehead kind of a girl kind of a guy kind of a
> >girl-thing)
> >
> >there really was a composer named francesco renaldi. he composed a
> >spaghetti sauce.
> >
> >despite rumors to the contrary, jean-luc ponty did not blow into his
> >violin
> >
> >anything else?
>
> Didn´t Deep Purple caused the fire in Montreux?
Frank made them putting fire to the Festival Hall to create conceptual
continuity clues. The fire naturally made the guy in England pushing him
from stage, (Phase II), which caused the Mothers split-up (Phase III)
and so on. Like some other weirdo-beardo long-haired guy a long time
ago, Frank knew in advance that he had to suffer for the sake of
mankind.
And Erroneous is known by many nameth.
And Captain Beefheart´s real name is Caspar Hauser III.
Dan The Kitti Man
In article <35164C...@uni-konstanz.de>, Harald.Wiester@uni-
konstanz.de gleefully giggled...
> Frank made them putting fire to the Festival Hall to create conceptual
> continuity clues. The fire naturally made the guy in England pushing him
> from stage, (Phase II), which caused the Mothers split-up (Phase III)
> and so on. Like some other weirdo-beardo long-haired guy a long time
> ago, Frank knew in advance that he had to suffer for the sake of
> mankind.
there was a confession from the guy that started the fire, saying zappa
made him do it "because it was in the score to 200 motels. he's such a
creep."
> And Erroneous is known by many nameth.
but not opal the hot little bitch.
> And Captain Beefheart愀 real name is Caspar Hauser III.
er, i thought that was Captain Beefheart N. Tennille. but i forget what
the n. stands for.
AJ Wilkes
Dan The Kitti Man <DanK...@NOSPAMPLEASEworldnet.att.net> wrote:
: > And Captain Beefheart愀 real name is Caspar Hauser III.
: er, i thought that was Captain Beefheart N. Tennille. but i forget what
: the n. stands for.
nothing
-JK-
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E.B.
AJ Wilkes wrote in message <6fp8u6$q0f$2...@cfs2.kis.keele.ac.uk>...
>Dan The Kitti Man <DanK...@NOSPAMPLEASEworldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>: > And Captain Beefheart´s real name is Caspar Hauser III.
>
>: er, i thought that was Captain Beefheart N. Tennille. but i forget what
>: the n. stands for.
>
>nothing
Beefheart is Dutch dunno his real name tho...
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On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:02:19 +0200, "E.B."
<erka...@NOTHINGwirehub.nl> SPEWED FORTH:
>
>AJ Wilkes wrote in message <6fp8u6$q0f$2...@cfs2.kis.keele.ac.uk>...
>>Dan The Kitti Man <DanK...@NOSPAMPLEASEworldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>: > And Captain Beefheart愀 real name is Caspar Hauser III.
>>
>>: er, i thought that was Captain Beefheart N. Tennille. but i forget what
>>: the n. stands for.
>>
>>nothing
>
>
>Beefheart is Dutch dunno his real name tho...
>
> "Nothing but the best for my mudshark"
>~)!(@*#&$^%&$*#(@)!_~)!#&$^%&$*#(@
>#! And you'll never hear &|
>|& " vloerbedekking " !$
>$! again #|
>+~_!)@(#*$&%^_~)!(@*#_~)!(@*#&$^%~!
> "But i don't wanna un-do my doo..".
> Remove nothing for e-mail
>
shit even ninja knows the answer that
Charles Ulrich
In article <6frag3$mkp$1...@thor.wirehub.nl>, "E.B."
<erka...@NOTHINGwirehub.nl> wrote:
> Beefheart is Dutch dunno his real name tho...
Actually, he's American, though the surname Van Vliet certainly suggests
Dutch ancestry.
--Charles
E.B.
Charles Ulrich wrote in message ...
Thank's for correcting me........
Michael Gula
I thought his "given" name was simply Donnie Vliet and he appropriated
the "Van." Is this right or wrong?
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>I thought his "given" name was simply Donnie Vliet and he appropriated
>the "Van." Is this right or wrong?
That is right. But I'll bet a nickel that somewhere in his family tree
are some ancestors who *were* named Van Vliet before shortening
the name.
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It seems history is to blame.
Mike Harrison
In article <6frgqk$qtp$1...@thor.wirehub.nl>, E.B.
<erka...@NOTHINGwirehub.nl> writes
>
>Charles Ulrich wrote in message ...
>>In article <6frag3$mkp$1...@thor.wirehub.nl>, "E.B."
>><erka...@NOTHINGwirehub.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Beefheart is Dutch dunno his real name tho...
>>
>>Actually, he's American, though the surname Van Vliet certainly suggests
>>Dutch ancestry.
>>
>>--Charles
>
>Thank's for correcting me........
>
very long time ago for some reason of his own.
Whilst on the subject of the Cap`n, does anyone have information (not
speculation) on his health status?
He was rather seriously ill not so long ago and unable to do very much
at all, painting-wise. He has, of course, been completely retired as a
musician/performer for some years now.
Jimmy Carl Black said in November he was in pretty bad shape.
--
Mike Harrison
Gypsyman3
>> And Erroneous is known by many nameth.
>
Bill
Gypsyman3 wrote:
>
> >> And Erroneous is known by many nameth.
> >
> I heard that Shuggie Otis, son of the R & B great played bass on Waka/Jawaka.
I heard that Rod Stewart had to get his stomach pumped.
Charles Ulrich
In article <199804130357...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
gyps...@aol.com (Gypsyman3) wrote:
> >> And Erroneous is known by many nameth.
> >
> I heard that Shuggie Otis, son of the R & B great played bass on Waka/Jawaka.
Shuggie Otis played bass on "Peaches En Regalia". (If you're only going to
play on one FZ track, that's a pretty good choice.) Alex "Erroneous"
Dmochowski played bass on all tracks on Waka/Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo.
--Charles
Dan The Kitti man
In article <353203...@patriot.net>, Bill
(billf_i...@patriot.net) got really silly and said something like...
> I heard that Rod Stewart had to get his stomach pumped.
only because he drank more fluid than jeff beck.
arielh...@gmail.com
>
> > I'm just listening to WAKA/JAWAKA and wondering who tha bass player is.
> > The sleeve (RYCO disc) says
> > 'Erroneous - electric bass'.
> > Anybody know who the bassplayer was ?
> > Could be Roy Estrada from the sound of it, but I can't imagine why he
> > would have to use an alias ??
>
>
> Alex Dmochowski, formerly of Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation, and either an
> illegal alien or at least not a member of the Musician's Union.
>
> --Charles
https://www.united-mutations.com/e/erroneous.htm (Ariel)
The old geezer
Michael P. Dawson
> Whatever happened to Dan the Kitti Man???
