It's The Amougies Festival. And yes, I've got a copy of it...
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> Nik Lowenberg wrote:
> > FZ and PF jammed on Interstellar Overdrive on 10/25/69 at the Actuel
> > Festival in Belgium. Last I heard a private collector had the film of it
> > but wouldn't release it. I think the audio is out there...has anyone heard
> > it?
> > -Nik
> It's The Amougies Festival. And yes, I've got a copy of it...
Then the Amougies festival and the Actuel Festival are one and the same?
There seem to be two different dates:
10/25/69 and 11/17/69... which is it?
Also, I thought it was spelled "D'Amiogies".
I thought there was an unproduced film called "Music Power" or something
which was to feature this.. what can you tell me about the real title of
Someone please tell the whole scoop on this film!!!
See my other post for video details.
What? The film? Um...yeah, there is a film. Two documentaries were made
of the festival and one called Music Power featured Pink Floyd and it went
on the French cinema circiut in June '70. It is highly probable that the
jam was filmed as it was played in the middle of the set (as opposed to an
encore or at a different time all together). Now, I haven't seen the film
and the jam may not be in it. It could be on the editing room's floor.
But I read somewhere else that a private collector had it.
>Didn`t Beefhart appear at this Festival also?
Yes, Capt Beefheart was there. FZ introduces him to the crowd.
>I saw this movie in Montreal this past summer. There is some Pink Floyd
>footage, also FZ and some CB but no Intersteller Overdrive. Boy what a
>shitty movie [... ] Boy what a horrible film!
Thanks for telling us about it ... and how bad it is.
Under what title?
I've heard the audio of IO, and it's my opinion Zappa does not participate.
At least the piece I heard.
Maybe Biffy can enlighten us if he finds the time to check in.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did as newspaper reported on it. Plus it's
legendary and legends are usually based on truth...
Like the one about eating shit on stage, right?
Don't know about that one...was that in a reputable newspaper?
It's too bad nobody asked Zappa! maybe they did? Now I have interviews where
he mentions people he has played with like Lennon, Hendrix (twice), but no
mention of Floyd in that one. We need to research this!
>I've heard the audio of IO, and it's my
>opinion Zappa does not participate.
It's my understanding that the tape in circulation purporting to be the
Amougies "Interstellar Overdrive" is not Amougies at all.
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>I thought this was a rumor that Zappa had put to rest, but damned if I can
In Society Pages USA #2, Zappa stated unequivocally that he did not play
onstage with Pink Floyd. Then two issues later, they turned up a photo of the
jam, showing FZ ca. 1969 onstage with a guy who is identifiably Nick Mason and
another guy with a P-Bass whose face isn't visible but whose hunched posture is
that of Roger Waters...
There has been a photograph published in the 1970's, that was re-printed in
one of the Society Pages (USA) fanzines that shows FZ on stage with Pink
Floyd at Amougies. I believe Dominique Chevalier forwarded it on to Den &
Rob to help clear up the matter, after FZ stated in one of his interviews
with Society Pages that he didn't play with the Floyd. Sorry but I don't
remember which adition of SP it was in.
Ketchup Is A Vegetable!
> In Society Pages USA #2, Zappa stated unequivocally that he did not play
> onstage with Pink Floyd. Then two issues later, they turned up a photo of the
> jam, showing FZ ca. 1969 onstage with a guy who is identifiably Nick Mason and
> another guy with a P-Bass whose face isn't visible but whose hunched posture is
> that of Roger Waters...
As usual, the Shrewish power of recall comes to the rescue.
When Bill Gates buys out the developer of the first neural microchip, Biffy
can still breathe easy.
> It's too bad nobody asked Zappa! maybe they did? Now I have interviews where
> he mentions people he has played with like Lennon, Hendrix (twice), but no
> mention of Floyd in that one. We need to research this!
An interview with PF drummer Nick Mason mentions this Amougies jam with
Zappa; I remember him saying something to the effect that "very few
people have the right personality to play with us", but what Zappa did
was "terribly right".
This makes me foam at the mouth. I sure hope footage of this sees the
light of day while I'm alive.
That is probably what I have, which is buried somewhere!
If anyone thinks they actually have this recording please send me a copy! I
have lot's to trade!
Only one problem with that, he did jam with Pink Floyd onstage in Amourgies
'69. Melody Maker and others reported on it. We've established that FZ
said something to the contrary, I'm sure he had some reason to deny playing
(we'll never know that reason probably). He did the jam...that's final.
Maybe he didn't want people to know, because he was totally embarrassed to
have played with a band that SUCKS A BIG FAT DONKEY DICK!!! If I saw any of
those guys from Pink Floyd, I'd crap in my hand and throw it at them! Because
they SUCK. Especially the revered Syd Barrett-psychedelic Alice-in-Wonderland
psychedelic "See Emily Play with herself" bullshit.
(This post was brought to you by Ian Penman on five shots of cheap whiskey.)
"Is that a wheel of cheese in your pocket or are you... um... some kind of
lumpy person?" - Matt Baume
Wow, that's harsh. The Floyd rule. I can't stand Barrett either, but a
lot of their stuff is great. Echoes, parts of Dark Side of the Moon, their
live shit, Point Me at the Sky, etc...
Sorry, it was a joke. That's my bizarre sense of humor when I'm trying to unwind.
If i had to choose three main influences on me as a songwriter, they'd be Frank
Zappa, Syd Barrett, and Robert Wyatt, in no particular order.
But what do I know?
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>> I just recently listened to what The dynamic Eric Buxton calls "The
>> of the Century" where he and Den Simms interviewed Frank at his house for
>> almost 4 hours . They asked Frank that question , if he had played with
>> as rumored and Frank said No. He was at the show which featured many acts
>> he introduced certain bands and jammed with Ansly Dunbar , but " did not
>> with Pink Floyd".
>> And that is right from Franks mouth...
>Only one problem with that, he did jam with Pink Floyd onstage in Amourgies
>'69. Melody Maker and others reported on it. We've established that FZ
>said something to the contrary, I'm sure he had some reason to deny playing
>(we'll never know that reason probably). He did the jam...that's final.
Maybe it would be best to think of Zappa's comment in this context:
The YCDTOSA liner notes.
Mother Nature's a mad scientist, Jerry!
> "Iao Zai Zao Mai Mao Tai Tao Now" - Daevid Allen
You apparently know that Gong rules! Gong '75 is great too: no Daevid
Allen, new violin player, and they're still crazy as hell!