STAGE #2 Bass Drum Revisited: Mark Pinske

Bossk (R)

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Jan 11, 2003, 5:09:26 PM1/11/03

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MIX: There seems to be some reference in the newsgroups to the possibility
that the kick drum on the Helsinki concerts was kind of sampled in or
something.

PINSKE: It was. It's called a Disco Boombox. It was made by dbx. It's a
little thing called Disco Boombox. That's what the name of it was. You could
spit into it and a kick drum would come out. [Laughs.] You could basically
send anything you wanted into it and a kick drum would come out.
We did do some triggering with Synclavier and some stuff like that, try to
do that. It kind of got a little bit overdone in some ways. But we did
manufacture drums out of--what I did was, I would take the original drums on
the Helsinki stuff--I sectioned off what was originally just a stereo pair,
and then I would take a graphic equalizer, for instance, and find the snare.
And EQ everything else out. And then we would use that ridiculously sounding
EQ that would spit every time the snare played, and I would externally
trigger, using a gate and an external trigger, we'd externally trigger maybe
a sample of a good snare that we recorded in the studio. And we tried to
make it sound a little bit more real. Because a lot of them sounded just
horrible. A lot of them didn't have any drums on at all. They were just a
ring-y room. And we tried to give them some definition. And it was real easy
sometimes to get a little bit too carried away, and get the proportions a
little too up front, or too far back.

Read the full interview at www.mixonline.com

Shiborugu

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:50:18 PM1/11/03

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I always figured it was added (it made a weird click noise on my version).
but anyway, thanks for the post, man

Shiborugu

Mikael Sillman

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Jan 12, 2003, 5:22:46 AM1/12/03

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Thanks fot the link, great reading!

One thing that I wondered...Mark says that the drums on "Vally Girl" were
played by Vinnie. I always thought Chad was on all the songs on "Ship
Arriving...".

Any ideas?

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Bill

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Jan 12, 2003, 8:10:10 AM1/12/03

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Mikael Sillman wrote:
>
> Thanks fot the link, great reading!
>
> One thing that I wondered...Mark says that the drums on "Vally Girl" were
> played by Vinnie. I always thought Chad was on all the songs on "Ship
> Arriving...".
>
> Any ideas?
>

<snip>

Mark's wrong.

Stan

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Jan 13, 2003, 11:26:13 AM1/13/03

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In article <3E216932...@patriot.net>, Bill
<billf_ga...@patriot.net> wrote:

I noticed one other mistake by Pinski: He's almost certainly confusing
"Crush All Boxes" with "Chalk Pie." On the whole, though, it's a great
interview, even though I had to skip a bunch of the real technical
equipment-oriented stuff.

One other thing: He seems to be confusing Ryko with Rhino as the company
that bought the rights to Frank's recordings. The figure he gives for the
buy-out is interesting. I wonder if it's what Rhino actually offered (it's
about half of the rumored amount that Ryko supposedly paid), or if it's the
real amount that Ryko paid, since Mark seems to be confusing the two
companies.

--Stan

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
--Henry Kissinger, New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973

Bill

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:41:16 PM1/13/03

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Ryko refinanced itself for $40m, but Gail didn't get $40m.
She got in the neighborhood of $20m from what I heard.
So the $22m figure sounds fine.
Gail should be kicking herself though for not accepting ~$10m from Rhino
for what's left in the vault.