Call Any Vegetable
Pablo Müller G.
What does FZ with this song mean????
I am not fully bilingual and i dont understand the real meaning of the
song.
Michael Pierry
English is my first language, and I don't understand the real meaning of it either!
Sam and/or Karen Rouse
As he sez - it's a song about vegetables; they keep ya regular, they're
really good fer ya.
In article <3591D3BC...@home.com>, Michael Pierry
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Pablo Müller G. <pmue...@geocities.com> wrote:
> What does FZ with this song mean????
It's a call for vegetable rights.
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On 24 Jun 1998 23:37:37 -0800, "Pablo Müller G."
<pmue...@geocities.com> wrote:
>What does FZ with this song mean????
>
>I am not fully bilingual and i dont understand the real meaning of the
>song.
Well "vegetable" is a slang term for someone in a (semi-) catatonic
state. It can also refer to brain-damaged hippies who've done too
much acid, or thoughtless consumers who are just out of it. My guess
is that "call any vegetable by name" means to call out the name of the
said catatonic individual, and they (might) respond to you. And they
aren't worth much past that (aside from keeping you "regular" (You
choose the denotation)).
But then again, it's just as likely that he was just being silly.
dan the kitti man
can i send e-mail to the vegetable?
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Kazimir
Hey, what do you do after you take a bite out of a vegetable?
"What?"
Put it back in the wheelchair...
JYOB
>vegetable?
>
Why do blondes wash their hair in the sink????
"cause that's where you wash the vegetables!!!!!
If you brought a big brown bag of 'em home, I'd jump up & down & hope you toss
me a carrot!!!
Did F.Z. steal Brian Wilson's idea about a song about vegetables??? Whose song
was recorded first??
Carl & Dennis Wilson
enigma
It's just
Frank being silly- one of his better attributes!
Ubermolch
>can i send e-mail to the vegetable?
Sort of a tangent. One day I was typing in random words followed by
".com" to see where they'd go. there's a really -- interesting isn't quite the
word -- page at rutabaga.com.
--Der Ubermolch
Biffyshrew
JYOB wrote:
>If you brought a big brown bag of 'em home, I'd jump up & down &
>hope you toss me a carrot!!!
>
>Did F.Z. steal Brian Wilson's idea about a song about
>vegetables??? Whose song was recorded first??
Recording of the Beach Boys' "Vegetables" began April 4, 1967,
and finished June 15. _Absolutely Free_ was released on May 26.
So neither song could have been stolen from the other. It's just
that there were vegetables in the air in those days...
Your pal,
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Steve Roche
JYOB wrote:
> If you brought a big brown bag of 'em home, I'd jump up & down & hope > you toss me a carrot!!!
>
> Did F.Z. steal Brian Wilson's idea about a song about vegetables??? > > Whose song was recorded first??
>
> Carl & Dennis Wilson
All 3 Wilson brothers & Paul McCartney had involvement with the BB's
tune. The Mothers' tune was recorded in Fall 1966. Smiley Smile
came out nearly a year later. Perhaps someone suggested both to Brian
Wilson and Frank Zappa writing song about our friends in the vegetable
kingdom. And I could've had a V-8!
PS I'm not selling my copy of Windows 3.11.
Steve Roche
dan the kitti man wrote:
>
> can i send e-mail to the vegetable?
>
I searched AltaVista for Vegetable Processors in my home Garden State
(NJ) and found none listed.
Perhaps the answer is no, but call & they'll come to you covered in dew.
Vegetables dream of responding to you.
Harald Wiester
>What does FZ with this song mean????
>
>I am not fully bilingual and i dont understand the real meaning of the
>song.
>
A sexual connotation?
Why is a vegetable something to hide?
Peter de B. Harrington
Actually, the sexual connotations were not attached to
the song until Laurel Fishman won a contest on a
Chicago radio station for her essay on what "Call Any Vegetable"
meant. The rest was history and a whole 'nother song.
I am sure I have some of the details wrong and missing
key facts, so Mammies Express Yo'selves.
Pete
Hoodoo
On 26 Jun 1998 03:43:56 GMT, uber...@aol.com (Ubermolch) wrote:
>>can i send e-mail to the vegetable?
>
> Sort of a tangent. One day I was typing in random words followed by
>".com" to see where they'd go. there's a really -- interesting isn't quite the
>word -- page at rutabaga.com.
Without checking it out I know that they have something to do with
canoes. And I don't mean a connection with large corporate breweries
in America.
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Ubermolch
>Actually, the sexual connotations were not attached to
>the song until Laurel Fishman won a contest on a
>Chicago radio station for her essay on what "Call Any Vegetable"
>meant. The rest was history and a whole 'nother song.
>
>I am sure I have some of the details wrong and missing
>key facts, so Mammies Express Yo'selves.
>
>Pete
>
>
Actually, her essay was on the topic of her life being saved by the
benefits that vegetables give to one's lower digestive tract. At least, that's
the real Frank Zappa Book story. the fact that she liked to insert vegetables
into multiple orifices didn't come out until she started spending time with Mr.
Vai.
--Der Ubermolch
Fred Banta
Biffyshrew <biffy...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199806260416...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> JYOB wrote:
>
> >If you brought a big brown bag of 'em home, I'd jump up & down &
> >hope you toss me a carrot!!!
> >
> >Did F.Z. steal Brian Wilson's idea about a song about
> >vegetables??? Whose song was recorded first??
>
> Recording of the Beach Boys' "Vegetables" began April 4, 1967,
> and finished June 15. _Absolutely Free_ was released on May 26.
> So neither song could have been stolen from the other. It's just
> that there were vegetables in the air in those days...
Questions: did the Beach Boys, Vegetables come out on a single? Was it on
the original Smile? The liner notes to Smiley Smile indicate the LP wasn't
available for public consumption until September 1967.
RDNZL
Fred Banta wrote:
> Biffyshrew <biffy...@aol.com> wrote in article
> <199806260416...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> > JYOB wrote:
>
> > >Did F.Z. steal Brian Wilson's idea about a song about
> > >vegetables??? Whose song was recorded first??
> >
> > Recording of the Beach Boys' "Vegetables" began April 4, 1967,
> > and finished June 15. _Absolutely Free_ was released on May 26.
> > So neither song could have been stolen from the other. It's just
> > that there were vegetables in the air in those days...
>
> Was it on the original Smile? The liner notes to Smiley Smile indicate the LP
> wasn't
> available for public consumption until September 1967.
Excellent question. Haven't the slightest idea. But the key word here is most
likely "public". I would bet if you were in the biz it wouldn't have been too hard
to get 'advance' pressings, or get copies of tape. But I agree with Biffy.
Everything went really veggie that year. Some went out of their way to become
broccoli. And more than a few succeded.
--
Michael
"I came down from the skies to cry you a song"
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Paul Hinrichs
RDNZL <ech...@erolsx.com> wrote:
>Fred Banta wrote:
This wsa all inspired by the only other charting single by the "Louie
Louie" group, The Kingsmen - "The Jolly Green Giant". It was based on
the popular TV commercial for some canned and frozen vegetable
distributor, whose name I can no longer remember. I think they might
have changed the name of the company to "Green Giant", because that's
what it says on the silvery can of Le Sueur Very Young Small Early
Peas in my pantry, but soon to leave it for the trash since the can
also says "use before June 1995" and botulism poisoning is a very
dreadful thing. Hah! - maybe I should donate this to the Homeless
Shelter next time they come running out to wash my windshield and beg
for donations.
Anyway, as you might expect, the song was about the Green Giant and
band members would interject the names of various vegetables between
the lines of the main vocal, using a really goofy voice like Frank did
when he'd say "stringbeans to Utah".
I think I am the only person who ever always bought the next release
of every one-hit wonder. I was very insecure and trying to catch the
next trend. I got over that when I realized I looked like a major
dumbass getting all excited about these third-rate recordings that
never went anywhere. It was worse than being simply clueless.
Biffyshrew
Fred Banta wrote:
>Questions: did the Beach Boys, Vegetables come out on a single? Was it on
>the original Smile? The liner notes to Smiley Smile indicate the LP wasn't
>available for public consumption until September 1967.
"Vegetables" was indeed intended for the original _Smile_ LP. I'm
pretty sure it was never released as a single by the Beach Boys--
certainly not as an A-side--though I believe Brian Wilson produced
a cover version for another band that was a single.
Steve Roche
Biffyshrew wrote:
>
> "Vegetables" was indeed intended for the original _Smile_ LP. I'm
> pretty sure it was never released as a single by the Beach Boys--
> certainly not as an A-side--though I believe Brian Wilson produced
> a cover version for another band that was a single.
>
with new vocals by Jan & Dean. The record was released as the work of
a band called Laughing Gravy.
JYOB
>The cover version was created by Brian using an outtake backing track
>with new vocals by Jan & Dean. The record was released as the work of
>a band called Laughing Gravy.
>
Was this Brian Wilson ripping off Zappa's "Lumpy Gravy"????????????
Michael Gula
http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/imo/ipo/chpv3p8.HTM
http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/askext/canning/4577.htm
http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_fnut/HRAP/STORAGE/cupstor.htm
http://www.mayohealth.org/mayo/9610/htm/storage.htm
Sam and/or Karen Rouse wrote:
>
> In article <6n4s8n$o14$1...@camel18.mindspring.com>, paul...@mindspring.com
> (Paul Hinrichs) wrote:
>
> > I think they might
> > have changed the name of the company to "Green Giant", because that's
> > what it says on the silvery can of Le Sueur Very Young Small Early
> > Peas in my pantry, but soon to leave it for the trash since the can
> > also says "use before June 1995" and botulism poisoning is a very
> > dreadful thing.
>
> OK, serious question time (since botulism is indeed no laughing matter) -
> can it really develop in canned food that has gone past the "use before"
> date? I always thought the canning process pretty well eliminated the
> chances of the little buggers developing, and that in the fortunately rare
> cases where they do develop it happens quickly and is due to problems in
> the canning process. (About all I know about botulism is that it's caused
> not directly by the bacteria but by their highly poisonous secretions, that
> it's an anaerobic bacteria - which is why it only has the chance to produce
> the poison in a can & so is not a concern with fresh veggies - and that
> both the bacteria and their spores are supposed to be killed by a proper
> hi-temp canning process.)
>
> I need to know whether we need to go thru our canned-food pantry (which
> contains a few ancient things). I always thought the "use before" date on
> canned goods meant it would taste like crap beyond a certain point, not
> that it might kill you, assuming the can isn't starting to get convex at
> the ends.
>
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Paul Hinrichs
ro...@teleport.com (Sam and/or Karen Rouse) wrote:
>OK, serious question time (since botulism is indeed no laughing matter) -
>can it really develop in canned food that has gone past the "use before"
>date?
Clostridium Botulinum is anerobic and commonly found in earth. Canned
food is, of course, stored in anerobic conditions. Most canned foods,
like fruits or tomato-based sauces, have either sufficient sugar or
acid to prevent the growth of anerobic bacteria. Foods that don't,
like meats, are pressure-canned (10 pounds pressure - getting the
surrounding temperature to 250º F) for fairly long periods, an hour to
an hour and a half, to destroy just about anything living in the
can/jar. Compare that to the 10 to 20 minutes for a boiling water bath
used for acidic foods.
Both processes produce a vacuum in the jar which seals it. This seal
can last for many years and, if it fails, there is usually ample
evidence that it has - drying, normal spoilage, etc. However, I apply
the general rule "when in doubt, throw it out". Five years is my
cutoff point for home-canned goods - even though 9999 out of 10,000
will still probably be okay. Botulism is something I don't want to
fuck with.
However, I've never seen a rule of thumb on age posted by any
agricultural extension group.
Patrick Neve
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Paul Hinrichs wrote:
> ro...@teleport.com (Sam and/or Karen Rouse) wrote:
> >OK, serious question time (since botulism is indeed no laughing matter) -
> >can it really develop in canned food that has gone past the "use before"
> >date?
>
> Clostridium Botulinum is anerobic and commonly found in earth. Canned
> food is, of course, stored in anerobic conditions. Most canned foods,
> like fruits or tomato-based sauces, have either sufficient sugar or
> acid to prevent the growth of anerobic bacteria. Foods that don't,
> like meats, are pressure-canned (10 pounds pressure - getting the
> surrounding temperature to 250º F) for fairly long periods, an hour to
> an hour and a half, to destroy just about anything living in the
> can/jar.
I used to work as quality control for a salmon cannery in alaska. The
phrase that rang true in your post was "just about anything living."
Commecial pressure canning, at least of meats, doesn't quite kill
everything, just most everything. I forget the figures.. are they really
important? The thing is, that it inhibits the rate of bacteria growth to
the pace which takes years and years to become re-established.. but it can
happen. The reason shelf dates are set is because the cannery can no
longer be liable after a length of time, and that time is calculated on
the rate that unkilled bacteria can potentially re-colonize.
Potentially.. we're still talking one in a million, maybe. A swollen can
is a sure sign to toss it out. I wouldn't take any chances anyway.
And finally, just some friendly advice; NEVER EVER EVER eat commercially
canned salmon!!!! You wouldn't BELIEVE what that crap looks like when they
stuff it in the cans! Botulism should be the least of your concerns! I'm
serious!!! Gory details available upon request.
Paul Hinrichs
Patrick Neve <sp...@darkwing.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>I used to work as quality control for a salmon cannery in alaska. The
>phrase that rang true in your post was "just about anything living."
>Commecial pressure canning, at least of meats, doesn't quite kill
>everything, just most everything. I forget the figures.. are they really
>important? The thing is, that it inhibits the rate of bacteria growth to
>the pace which takes years and years to become re-established.. but it can
>happen. The reason shelf dates are set is because the cannery can no
>longer be liable after a length of time, and that time is calculated on
>the rate that unkilled bacteria can potentially re-colonize.
>Potentially.. we're still talking one in a million, maybe. A swollen can
>is a sure sign to toss it out. I wouldn't take any chances anyway.
>And finally, just some friendly advice; NEVER EVER EVER eat commercially
>canned salmon!!!! You wouldn't BELIEVE what that crap looks like when they
>stuff it in the cans! Botulism should be the least of your concerns! I'm
>serious!!! Gory details available upon request.
A friend of mine worked a summer at the Campbell's tomato soup factory
in Napoleon, Ohio. The idiots working there used to delight in
spitting tobacco or pissing in the vat. Not enough that it would ever
show up in the QC tests, I'm sure, but still makes the product kinda
disgusting to me.
Zoogz Rift
Makes ya wonder about their "Chunky" variety...
--ZRTLM
Hoodoo
Question: Do you remember when Arby's "restaurants" used to have
squeeze bottles of horsey sauce at the tables?
Answer: Nevermind...
{8-{ in NY
somebody wrote:
>What does FZ with this song mean????
>
>I am not fully bilingual and i dont understand the real meaning of the
>song.
Some one else said:
Well "vegetable" is a slang term for someone in a (semi-) catatonic
state. It can also refer to brain-damaged hippies who've done too
much acid.......<snip>
>>But then again, it's just as likely that he was just being silly.
I agree, but I also took it to be a bizarre parody of protest songs by Bob
Dylan, Phil Ochs, & Joan Baez.
{8-{> in New York