Beat The Boots on iTunes
Dickle
Boots boxes have been released on iTunes.
Dave
> This may have been covered already, but it appears that both Beat the
> Boots boxes have been released on iTunes.
I don't recall the topic coming up here, but over on zappa.com
the Zappa Albums forum has the topic "Was it the composer's
intent to sell lo-fi boots on iTunes?".
ttuerff
That's kind of an odd thing to ask. Frank didn't live long enough to
see mp3s. He'd probably be all over it.
TT
Poot Rootbeer
> That's kind of an odd thing to ask. Frank didn't live long enough
> to see mp3s. He'd probably be all over it.
Was it in TRFZB that he proposed a telephone-based music distribution
system, decades before iTunes?
I don't doubt FZ would have been interested in digital distribution;
would he have picked a smattering of muddy, low-fi, retroactively-
sanctioned bootleg tapes as representative of his work? Eat that
question.
-Poot
Poldie
> ttuerff <ttu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's kind of an odd thing to ask. Frank didn't live long enough
>> to see mp3s. He'd probably be all over it.
>
> Was it in TRFZB that he proposed a telephone-based music distribution
> system, decades before iTunes?
I think iTunes was the first to do it properly and make money from it
though. I think that's probably an important distinction.
ttuerff
know nothing, but:
Zappa's regular stuff USED to be on iTunes, eMusic, etc.
That was all the stuff issued by Ryko.
Gail and Ryko have always had their problems. So one day, all that
gets pulled.
Obviously, Gail knows there's a market, because a couple years ago she
put out that iTunes-Only AAAFNRA collection with five concert cuts.
Beat the Boots, as I recall, was released through Rhino, not Ryko. I
think Gail just saw the opportunity to get something -- ANYTHING -- up
and out there.
If FZ were still alive we probably wouldn't even be HAVING this
conversation because he'd still own everything and he'd be making it
all available in one way or another.
TT
On Jul 16, 8:45 pm, Poot Rootbeer <p...@dork.com> wrote:
ZapRat
CMELAK = RETARD
CMELAK = OWNED
CMELAK = SPAMMER
CMELAK = TROLL
CMELAK = WIFE BEATER
CMELAK = PERVERT
CMELAK = FOOL
CMELAK = SHITHEAD
CMELAK = CRYBABY
CMELAK = OWNED 100%
CMELAK = BAD TEETH
CMELAK = PARASITE
CMELAK = BUM
The Bill Cmelak of Antigo, Wisconsin "tribute" website:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm
Amateur radio license KB9TIX. HAMs, just be aware that when you talk
to this person, that you are talking to the town fool and that Cmelak
is an evil piece of crap.
Cmelak barely got out of high school at Milwaukee's Juneau High
School.
His relatives:
LORI S CMELAK (400lb. ex-wife who claims that fat Billy is impotent)
GRACE M CMELAK
JOSEPH A CMELAK
My name is William Bill Cmelak. I am a fat and stupid shithead. I
clean septic tanks for a living. I am emotionally disturbed and
never could hold down a regular job - that's why I have so much time
on my hands to watch television, read the news, and repost shit to
newsgroups that you could just as easily read at Yahoo News.
I also spam newsgroups using the following sockpuppets:
Hoodude
Hoodoo
Hoodini
Shrike!
25th Century Quaker
SSS333
Bug Bomb Pest Removal
Zaprat
Jose Gaspar
I have been stalking another guy for almost four years because I am
jealous of him and because he hurt my widdle feelings and I just
cannot get over the pain.
I live in an old singlewide mobile home here:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
(According to the Langlade County Proeprty Assessor's office Cmelak's
"massive" estate that he brags about is 7 acres of scrub land valued
at a grand total of $33,500 [$14.3K for the property and $19.2K for
the improvements] and a fair market value of a whooping $37,000!!!.
The stupid bastard has been working his ass off for years and bragging
about a mobile home lot that isn't worth as much as most people's
cars! That, and he's behind on paying his property tax. **TRAILER
TRASH!!!** Wonder if Cmelak can even afford running water?)
I drive a 25 year old ex-military truck because that's all that I can
afford.
It's an old diesel truck and I drive that because I know that I can
steal heating oil to burn in the truck when I cannot afford diesel.
Which is most of the time.
My teeth are black and worn to the gum. I cannot afford to see a
dentist.
I used to brag about being retired until someone found out that I was
a handyman. Like I said, I pump septic tanks for a living, when I can
get work.
If my momma hadn't died and left this mobile home for me I would be
homeless.
My family says that I sponge off of them. They called me a bum and a
parasite.
My brother and Daddy drank too much and it killed them. I used to be
an alcoholic, but I had to quit. Now I go around preaching to everyone
else about them being drunks when they drink two beers.
Wonder why I don't have any friends?
I flunked out of trade school. I went to a slow-learner's high
school. Everyone used to pick on me in high school.
I spend most of my spare time at my computer using an old dial up
connection. The rest of the time I watch television 24/7.
My biggest achievement in life was being mentioning in my tiny little
hometown newspaper for spotting something odd in the crossword. It
wasn't a mistake or anything, but it just made me laugh.
Bahahahahhahahahahhahaha!!! I wrote to the newspaper and they
mentioned my name. My relatives all said that was because the
newspaper thought that I was an oddball, but I don't see things that
way.
I am really good at trivia, even if none of the trivia that I know is
important stuff. No one gets my jokes, and no one would ever hire me
to supervise anyone else, not even at the convenience store where I
used to work. But it doesn't matter - I are smarter than them.
No one will give me the respect that I know that I deserve.
Four years ago I was approached by an old woman named Karen Anderson
who talked me into helping her stalk and troll this guy. She had had a
crush on him and he kicked her to the curb. She drove to his town and
followed him around for two days without him knowing it. She is also
jealous of him. Anderson has stalked several other men before.
She lives at:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
Anderson and I are both addicted to stalking. We know that what we do
is wrong, and we see this other guy kick our asses all the time, but
we just don't have the willpower to stop stalking him.
I am so jealous, jealous, JEALOUS of that guy that it makes me want to
BURST. I spend all of my time researching what he does, where he
lives. Hell, I even follow his eBay account.
This dude that I hate is popular in his town and community and I HATE
that. So I make up crap about him and his girlfriend and post it to
newsgroups and generally make a nusiance out of myself. Most of what
I make up is a complete figment of my imagination but if I repeat my
lies often enough maybe someone stupid will believe them.
This guy just drives me CRAZY. He's president of a motorcycle club,
he's involved with several charities. Everyone that meets him seems
to like him. I am so damned jealous that I cannot stand it.
Did I mention that I am insanely jealous?
He lives in a warm climate, and I am stuck here in the sticks of
Wisconsin, barely able to afford to keep warm.
He travels all the time and I haven't been out of Wisconsin in years.
He is active, and my health issues keep me from leaving the house.
He motorcycles all over the country and into Mexico and I cannot ride
any more. I hate that. And I hate those damned Mexicans, even though
that doesn't make me a racist because I said so.
I tell people that I am a big, tough Harley dude but the truth is that
I only owned a Sportster - sort of an entry-level Harley - for 6
months before it got repo'd.
I had a good job once. Back in 1998. Then I fucked up, got fired,
and my wife left me. Now I cannot hold down a regular job.
This guy makes more money than I do and that can't be right. I just
know there's something wrong there.
He has a girlfriend that loves him and takes care of him and I haven't
had a date with a woman for over 10 years. And when he was single he
got laid all of the time. Now that's not right either.
My 400 lb. wife - Lori Cmelak - left me. And I miss the little
heffer, even if I did have to smack her a time or two to keep her in
line. But she won't talk to me any more, and I hate that.
What can I possibly do? I am so unhappy. I'd blow my brains out but I
cannot afford the bullets.
Signed, Bill Cmelak of Antigo, Wisconsin
Mike Espinoza
> Well, you're probably not figuring in all the details, of which we
> know nothing, but:
>
> Zappa's regular stuff USED to be on iTunes, eMusic, etc.
>
> That was all the stuff issued by Ryko.
>
> Gail and Ryko have always had their problems. So one day, all that
> gets pulled.
>
> Obviously, Gail knows there's a market, because a couple years ago she
> put out that iTunes-Only AAAFNRA collection with five concert cuts.
>
> Beat the Boots, as I recall, was released through Rhino, not Ryko. I
> think Gail just saw the opportunity to get something -- ANYTHING -- up
> and out there.
>
> If FZ were still alive we probably wouldn't even be HAVING this
> conversation because he'd still own everything and he'd be making it
> all available in one way or another.
I think this point is debatable.
First of all, there are about a dozen releases on CD that probably
would never seen the light of day had Frank lived.
Secondly, Frank would have had to have gotten the right kind of deal
from iTunes (or Wal-Mart or Amazon or whoever) before he would have
agreed to have his music on there. Despite the fact that it uses
Frank's original idea, iTunes is not a high fidelity medium for
distributing music. Switching from LPs to CDs was a no-brainer for
Frank because he had already embraced digital recording. I'm not sure
he would have felt the same way about iTunes' current music format.
What gets lost in the whole "Beat The Boots in the ONLY Zappa music on
iTunes" issue is that the Beat The Boots material has been made
available again whereas it was previously deleted and you can even buy
only one song (if it is shorter than ten minutes) or only one album
rather than an entire box (as Beat The Boots II required). To me,
this is progress.
--
Mike E.
Dave
"Mike Espinoza" <espi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8d9931a6-20f5-4237...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> First of all, there are about a dozen releases on CD that probably
> would never seen the light of day had Frank lived.
Which ones would those be? Joe's Domage for sure.
The Ryko compilations?
Mike Espinoza
> "Mike Espinoza" <espin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
FZ Plays The Music Of FZ
FZ:OZ
Halloween
Joe's Corsage
QuAUDIOPHILIAc
Joe's Domage
Joe's XMASage
MOFO
MOFO (fazedooh)
Buffalo
The Dub Room Special (CD)
Wazoo
One Shot Deal
--
Mike E.