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Paulo Chagas

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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What means RDNZL?
Can you tell me?
Thanx
Paulo

Michael Pierry

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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As far as I know, the only person who could've told you what means RDNZL is dead.

Knut Skogstad

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Paulo Chagas wrote:
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> What means RDNZL?
> Can you tell me?
> Thanx
> Paulo

Rdnzl is FZ's "pumpkin" Gail. ie his wife.

Knut

Foggy G

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>What means RDNZL?

Here we go again....
Despite what anybody else says, it means...
RATS...DISC NUMBER TWO...LOOSE!

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AJ Wilkes

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Foggy G <10517...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

: >What means RDNZL?

: Here we go again....
: Despite what anybody else says, it means...
: RATS...DISC NUMBER TWO...LOOSE!

Nope - and here's the long version folks...


R! ... R... R is for Rarity, and that's what an Xmas 76 page is around here.

D! ... D is for Don't you go pullin' the trick of embarrassing me on your
web page again, for if you Do, the R before the D will be Raging - as in
Destruction, which is what the D 'could' be. See?

R D N! N is nothing, which is what I see when I look for the Christmas
review, that you, in your infinite wisdomical style, are taking a while to
produce. How obtuse...

R D N! (no hyphen) r d n Z!! Z rhymes with bed, not flea, although you
wouldn't know it if you took any notice of that yellow bird and giant
elephant on kids TV... which, in a roundabout way, takes us to the Z being
for... Znuffaloffagus!

L! Oh my God, you don't wanna go to L, for in L they have the charred and
scarred remains of touring pages from ages ago, when B. L. Z. Bub played Dub
for the ladies of Hades, and the Dead were Grateful.


r d n z L! After I had gotten through with spelling RDNZL, correctly, and
with no hyphens, I felt much better and could get on with the rest of this
post:

Join the march, and eat my starch.

-jk-

Foggy G

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>Nope - and here's the long version folks...

And so goes the beginning of AJ "Insert Your Own NIckname Here"
Wilkes hilarious definition of the true meaning of RDNZL.
Laughing out loud, I apologize to the Brit for any offense he
may have taken at my recent dig at him on my web page.
But it is MY web page dammit! :-)
Stay Freaked, Y'all!!
-Fogz
-who needs to find a way to secretly post the Xmas '76 page
without Aj knowing, and then convince everyone to lie about its
nonexistence....Or maybe we're already doing that? Eh, AJ? :-)

Geir Corneliussen

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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Paulo Chagas wrote:
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> What means RDNZL?
> Can you tell me?
> Thanx
> Paulo

For me, RDNZL has always been the sound of fireworks exploding.
Every newyear (If I stay home) I play it at twelwe o'clock.
Then I look at the fireworks from my large windows at the top of the
hill. Try it, and you will never again ask this question.

Geir Corneliussen

AJ Wilkes

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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Foggy G <10517...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

: -who needs to find a way to secretly post the Xmas '76 page

: without Aj knowing, and then convince everyone to lie about its
: nonexistence....Or maybe we're already doing that? Eh, AJ? :-)

Oh brother, First Watergate, and now this. It's all a conspiracy!

-jk-

Tom Tuerff

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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In article <01bdca21$ae7cfc00$01f441c2@mop0000>, "Paulo Chagas"
<dani...@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

> What means RDNZL?
> Can you tell me?
> Thanx
> Paulo

Two possibilities: A play off "Rapunzel," and "Redundant," just a Zappa
play on words for the sake of a song title;

OR

RDNZL was apparently the choices given on the transmission window of some
old cars in Zappa's youth, R--reverse, D--Drive, N--Neutral, Z--takes the
place of 2, for second gear; and L--or l in lower case, while looks like a
1, and means first gear. Maybe he always thought it looked like Rdunzl.

Or maybe RDNZL is swahili for "I never ate shit on stage."

TT

Michael Pierry

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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Tom Tuerff wrote:
>
> In article <01bdca21$ae7cfc00$01f441c2@mop0000>, "Paulo Chagas"
> <dani...@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
> > What means RDNZL?
> > Can you tell me?
> > Thanx
> > Paulo
>
>
> Or maybe RDNZL is swahili for "I never ate shit on stage."
>

What do you mean, "maybe"? I thought everyone knew that!

Cherone

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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>> Or maybe RDNZL is swahili for "I never ate shit on stage."
>>
>
>What do you mean, "maybe"? I thought everyone knew that!

I was under the understanding (it's better than being above it.....<cymbal
crash>) that it was swahili for "I lied, I ate shit on stage and got high all
of the time!" No?


Scott "Penguin In Bondage" Fischer
CHE...@AOL.COM
***ALWAYS ON DUTY***
}:洌-


[SpiderGecko]

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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On 17 Aug 1998 21:54:22 GMT, "Paulo Chagas" <dani...@mail.telepac.pt>
wrote:

>What means RDNZL?
>Can you tell me?

Best explanation I've heard is

RDNZL
uoeay
teepr
hsdpi
n ac
' 's
t s


__-_--_---_----_-----_---------_-----_----_---_--_-__

[SpiderGecko] not spidergecko #1145 * Agamura Persica
<lame> http://thunder.prohosting.com/~sgecko/ </lame>

--_-__-___-____-_____-_________-_____-____-___-__-_--

dan the kitti man

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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Once upon a time in the faerie woods, in
<35d9d4e4...@news.service.emory.edu>, nos...@nospam.com
([SpiderGecko]) said...

> Best explanation I've heard is
>
> RDNZL
> uoeay
> teepr
> hsdpi
> n ac
> ' 's
> t s
>

that is very interesting. reading down = ruth don't need zappa's lyrics,
but reading accross = RDNZL uoeay teepr hsdpi n ac' 's t s which means
the wickly booger bear owns the newsgroup with obi & inner.

every time wickly cowardice booger bear. EVERY TIME is no matter!!

--
===== dan the kitti man === surf.to/dankitti <-- actual web url

where would the music be without the pauses between the notes?
how could there be dancing without the pauses between the
motions? how could we breathe if we were constantly filled with air?

exhale to inhale again..

-- ana voog

DartheadNY

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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i asked Eric Buxton and he said look at your steering column.
reverse
drive
neutral
2nd
low

It Never Entered My Mind

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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Don't forget to add the "Dynamic" when you refer to the great and
legendary entertainer Eric Buxton, immortalized on Broadway the
Hardway.

Svante

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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o...@stockholm.com (It Never Entered My Mind) vrute-a:

>>i asked Eric Buxton and he said look at your steering column.
>>reverse
>>drive
>>neutral
>>2nd
>>low
>
>Don't forget to add the "Dynamic" when you refer to the great and
>legendary entertainer Eric Buxton, immortalized on Broadway the
>Hardway.

Ok:

reverse
dynamic
neutral
2nd
low

Mouhahahaha.

--
Svante Pettersson
The Highway Star - http://www.deep-purple.com/
Another site - http://deep-purple.family-tree.org/
(C) 1998 The Deep Purple Can Do No Wrong Society

StucoHomes

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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>i asked Eric Buxton and he said look at your steering column.
>reverse
>drive
>neutral
>2nd
>low

Once again, that isn't correct.

1) I've never seen that PRINTED on the steering column, although some automatic
gearshifts stick out the side of the column.

2) It's not "low", but 1. For first gear.

3) It's not the correct order, either. It goes Reverse, Neutral, Drive, 2nd,
1st.


------------
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questionable psychic, writer, author, arthur?, composer, disposer, imposer,
imposter, et al


Michael Pierry

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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StucoHomes wrote:
>
>
> 2) It's not "low", but 1. For first gear.

I beg to differ. My car most definitely has an L, for low gear.

Sam and/or Karen Rouse

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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In article <199808260112...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
stuco...@aol.com (StucoHomes) wrote:

> 3) It's not the correct order, either. It goes Reverse, Neutral, Drive, 2nd,
> 1st.

This has been done to death, but - given that FZ didn't drive, he could
easily have switched a couple of characters (or done it deliberately so
that it could be pronounce "Redunzel") - so in the absence of concrete
info, which may never come to light, it's still a valid hypothesis.

--
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http://www.teleport.com/~rouse/fz/rc5.html
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Randy Cech

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Sam and/or Karen Rouse wrote in message ...

& (StucoHomes) wrote:
>
>> 3) It's not the correct order, either. It goes Reverse, Neutral, Drive,
2nd,
>> 1st.
>
>This has been done to death, but - given that FZ didn't drive, he could
>easily have switched a couple of characters (or done it deliberately so
>that it could be pronounce "Redunzel") - so in the absence of concrete
>info, which may never come to light, it's still a valid hypothesis.
>
I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I
know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic. Second, Cars in the
fifties, when frank would have driven, may have what we would consider odd
placement of the gears on the shift arm, this is not out of the question.
Third, Zappa once said "You've got to name them Something" Fourth what about
the other possibility of "Ruth Doesn't Need Zappa's Lyrics"? Fifth and
finally Zappa may have done this intentionally to create a mystery /
mystique around this song, just look how long this tread is. He's been doing
it for years!

Thomas Pfaller

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Michael Pierry schrieb in Nachricht <35E3735E...@home.com>...

>StucoHomes wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2) It's not "low", but 1. For first gear.
>
>I beg to differ. My car most definitely has an L, for low gear.

Hmm, perhaps we should start searching for the right type of car. Maybe a
Cadillac...

Paul Hinrichs

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> wrote:


>I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I
>know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic. Second, Cars in the
>fifties, when frank would have driven, may have what we would consider odd
>placement of the gears on the shift arm, this is not out of the question.
>Third, Zappa once said "You've got to name them Something" Fourth what about
>the other possibility of "Ruth Doesn't Need Zappa's Lyrics"? Fifth and
>finally Zappa may have done this intentionally to create a mystery /
>mystique around this song, just look how long this tread is. He's been doing
>it for years!

Then why the fuck do we keep coming up with the same old shit over and
over again?

Here's a new "Z", my modest contribution:

zeugma


Hoodoo

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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On 26 Aug 1998 01:12:08 GMT, stuco...@aol.com (StucoHomes) wrote:

>>i asked Eric Buxton and he said look at your steering column.
>>reverse
>>drive
>>neutral
>>2nd
>>low
>
>Once again, that isn't correct.
>
>1) I've never seen that PRINTED on the steering column, although some automatic
>gearshifts stick out the side of the column.
>

>2) It's not "low", but 1. For first gear.
>

>3) It's not the correct order, either. It goes Reverse, Neutral, Drive, 2nd,
>1st.

The following paragraph is a repeat of a message I posted on this
topic some days ago:

Some of the American cars equipped with automatic transmissions, in
the 50's when they first came out, had the gears arranged with Reverse
and Drive next to each other. After people had accidents and
dangerous situations with that design, a more or less standard pattern
was adopted with Reverse separated from Drive and Neutral between
them. On the early automatic equipped cars, Park wasn't even thought
of yet and the selector was placed in the lowest forward gear with the
emergency (actually called the "parking" back then) brake applied.

Some additional information in regards to the quoted post above and
others in this thread:

"L" was indeed used to designate "low gear", not "1" signifying "first
gear".

I believe the type of American car that had the RDN2L shift
arrangement was the General Motors' Hydramatic transmission
equipped cars of the late 1940's up to the late 1950's. These would be
the Oldsmobile (most if not all of the early Rocket 88 models had the
Hydramatic), Pontiac, and Cadillac. I sold my 1948 Cadillac two years
ago and it had this automatic transmission in it.

The Chevrolet cars of this period utilized the Powerglide two-speed
automatic transmission. The Chevy was really the lower-class, or,
entry level, of the General Motors family of cars. I believe the Chevy
cars weighed less and therefore didn't require the additional gears
that the Hydramatic transmission provided.

========
Hoodoo

With all of the untruths uncovered through the years,
why don't we rename that place the White-Lie House?

To contact me via e-mail please remove the
obvious pest deterrent in my address.

Randy Cech

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Paul Hinrichs wrote in message <6s1ls1$5pa$1...@camel25.mindspring.com>...

>"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I
>>know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic. (SNIP)
>>Fifth andfinally Zappa may have done this intentionally to create a

mystery /
>>mystique around this song, just look how long this tread is. He's been
doing
>>it for years!
>
>Then why the fuck do we keep coming up with the same old shit over and
>over again?


Well excuse me, the guy wants a serious answer to a question and I thought I
would post some plausible answers. Flame away

See Hoodoo's post below.

Paul Hinrichs

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> wrote:

>Well excuse me, the guy wants a serious answer to a question and I thought I
>would post some plausible answers. Flame away

Didn't flame. Just posted an equally plausible and implausible
suggestion for one letter in this complex equation. The old guesses
are getting a bit tiresome...


Svante

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> vrute-a:

>I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I
>know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic.

Speaking of Dweezil: That was inspired by Gail's toe, right? Maybe
RDNZL was another part of someone's body?

It Never Entered My Mind

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:57:21 GMT, paul...@mindspring.com (Paul
Hinrichs) wrote:

>"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I

>>know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic. Second, Cars in the
>>fifties, when frank would have driven, may have what we would consider odd
>>placement of the gears on the shift arm, this is not out of the question.
>>Third, Zappa once said "You've got to name them Something" Fourth what about
>>the other possibility of "Ruth Doesn't Need Zappa's Lyrics"? Fifth and

>>finally Zappa may have done this intentionally to create a mystery /
>>mystique around this song, just look how long this tread is. He's been doing
>>it for years!
>

>Here's a new "Z", my modest contribution:
>
>zeugma
>

What's surprising is that the Barking Pumpkin origin might actually
not be cigarette coughs but flatulence! At least according to Ben
Watson, the former might be a cleaned up version of the reality.
It's less shocking to cough than to flatulate.

StucoHomes

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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>> 2) It's not "low", but 1. For first gear.
>
>I beg to differ. My car most definitely has an L, for low gear.

I shoulda put one of my patent pending "I've never seen a..." in there
somewhere... I stand corrected.

Sam and/or Karen Rouse

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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In article <6s1ls1$5pa$1...@camel25.mindspring.com>, paul...@mindspring.com
(Paul Hinrichs) wrote:

> Here's a new "Z", my modest contribution:
>
> zeugma

Ray Does No Zeugma Lyrics?

Hoodoo

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:57:21 GMT, paul...@mindspring.com (Paul
Hinrichs) wrote:

>Here's a new "Z", my modest contribution:
>
>zeugma

That was so good I had to look up the definition. What I really like
about it is the pronunciation...it made me think of the maternal
parent of Zoogz Rift.

How about Zeitgeist?

Paul Hinrichs

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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hoodooB...@newnorth.net (Hoodoo) wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:57:21 GMT, paul...@mindspring.com (Paul
>Hinrichs) wrote:

>>Here's a new "Z", my modest contribution:
>>
>>zeugma

>That was so good I had to look up the definition. What I really like
>about it is the pronunciation...it made me think of the maternal
>parent of Zoogz Rift.

>How about Zeitgeist?

That's Zoogz's Daddy, Oh.

Tal

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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It Never Entered My Mind heeft geschreven in bericht
<35e5b0ff...@news.total.net>...

>>
>What's surprising is that the Barking Pumpkin origin might actually
>not be cigarette coughs but flatulence! At least according to Ben
>Watson, the former might be a cleaned up version of the reality.
>It's less shocking to cough than to flatulate.

On the other hand, in Poodle Play Mr.Watson is quite anal-fixated, so maybe
HE just wanted it to be about flatulence.

And I don't (want to) know what your farts sound like, but mine and the
farts of those that I love don't sound like barking.

Yours,

--Tal
_____________________________________________
e-mail : an...@cidanka.nl
web : http://www.cidanka.nl


Tal

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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Svante heeft geschreven in bericht <35e4934e...@news.one.se>...
>"Randy Cech" <Sam_P...@email.msn.com> vrute-a:

>
>>I agree to a point with Sam. First of all Frank may have been Dyslectic, I
>>know Dweezil is, but am not sure if it is genetic.
>
>Speaking of Dweezil: That was inspired by Gail's toe, right? Maybe
>RDNZL was another part of someone's body?


Oohh, I'm afraid to ask, but what do you think?

Svante

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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"Tal" <an...@SPAM.cidanka.nl> vrute-a:

>>Speaking of Dweezil: That was inspired by Gail's toe, right? Maybe
>>RDNZL was another part of someone's body?
>
>Oohh, I'm afraid to ask, but what do you think?

Frank's facial hair could be a Rdnzl.

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