Do you think Frank Zappa was a kibologist?
Kibologists have always understood the importance and mandatory irrelevence
of Conceptual Continuity.
If it's funny once ... it's funny ALL OVER YOUR SCREEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!
- Leah Muaaaaaah
Wasn't (isn't?) Kibo that guy that used to appear whenever his name
figured on the net? Like a sort of Internet Kilroy? He was all over
the place, but no-one knew where he came from or who he was....
Some info would be appreciated.
Steve
===============================================
Steve Cobham st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk
"When it comes to information, I believe that
more is better."-- Roger McGuinn
"Information is not knowledge."-- Frank Zappa
"Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
===============================================
This is an Urban Myth. Everyone knows the InterNET is far too big for
anyone to appear all over it at once. There's SO MUCH INTERNET ITS ALL
OVER YOUR SCREEN!
: Some info would be appreciated.
Did you know that the people on Gilligan's Island were not in fact
stranded on a desert island at all, but were in fact played by ACTORS?
It's TRUE!
: "When it comes to information, I believe that
: more is better."-- Roger McGuinn
: "Information is not knowledge."-- Frank Zappa
: "Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
Therefore, LEE MAJORS IS SOCRATES!
--
Tom Scudder aka tom...@umich.edu <*> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~tomscud
Eight sir, Seven sir, Six sir, Five sir / Four sir, Three sir, Two sir, one!
"Tenser" said the Tensor / "Tenser" said the Tensor /
"Five dollars" said the lady with the alligator purse
--
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: Did you know that the people on Gilligan's Island were not in fact
: stranded on a desert island at all, but were in fact played by ACTORS?
: It's TRUE!
I've heard a lovely theory about Gilligan's Island. Now, we all
know that were it a "real" situation, the Professor would have built a
raft and gotten them all off the island. So there has to be a reason why
he doesn't do that. The reason is, they want to STAY. They're running a
drug-smuggling and production ring from this island. You've got the
Professor who does chemical production and refining, Mary Ann in charge
of the botanical end, the Howells for money laundering, the Skipper for
navigation when it's necessary to make a trip to the mainland, and Ginger
for contacts. Now, Gilligan is oblivious. When strange people show up on
the island, like natives, or movie producers, or the Harlem
Globetrotters, they're there in disguise to make a delivery or pick up a
shipment. When weird things start happening, like Gilligan's teeth start
picking up radio stations, then the Professor has slipped a new,
experimental drug into Gilligan's system to see what it does to a
person. While it is certainly not what the creators had in mind when
they devised the show, keeping this theory as a framework for watching
the show makes it much more enjoyable and considerably deeper.
--Jason Arvey
I think you're confusing Kibo with Serdar Argic. Lots of people knew where
Kibo came from (RPI) and who he was (the late Adm. James Perry).
Eddie
--
Keroppi says: (Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wagh'nagl fhtagn!>--- oo
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Steve Cobham wrote in message <3496e8cc.26990709@news>...
>On 16 Dec 1997 19:46:16 GMT, "Leah Verre"
><leahv.ba...@badaddress.humongous.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> ant (weasels ripped my flesh)
>>
>>Do you think Frank Zappa was a kibologist?
>>
>>Kibologists have always understood the importance and mandatory
irrelevence
>>of Conceptual Continuity.
>>If it's funny once ... it's funny ALL OVER YOUR SCREEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Wasn't (isn't?) Kibo that guy that used to appear whenever his name
>figured on the net?
If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you.
> Like a sort of Internet Kilroy?
Well, you don't see an alt.religion.kilroyogy, do you?
> He was all over
>the place, but no-one knew where he came from or who he was....
Everyone knew who he was; he was KIBO!
And Spot is just a dog.
>Some info would be appreciated.
Um, OK, sure:
On Febuary 23, 1974, I was born. And I wasn't wearing pants.
The charge of a proton is exactly opposite that of the electron.
Riboflavin is good for you.
There are more irrational numbers than rational numbers.
There are more irrational posters than rational posters.
Usenet is like a great big salad. But I haven't found any croutons yet.
On January 1st, 2000, I predict approximately 5000 deaths from people
getting fed up with arguments over whether the millenium starts in 2000 or
2001.
This information provided as a public service. Please send $19.95 plus
slipping and handbagging for a complete transcript in Mandarin Chinese.
Allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery, and 4 hours at 350 degrees for baking.
--
Kevin Allegood ri...@mindspring.com
"My insanity is only measured based on the size of my
ego... To be that crazy, you'd have to be institutionalized.
Why the heck I'm still running around loose is beyond me.
Your guess is as good as mine." -Derek "Notso" Smart
No, HE wants to stay. He was performing a psychological experiment on the
other castaways.
And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
names.
--
Nick Bensema <ni...@primenet.com> 98-KUPD Red Card #710563 UIN: 2135445
~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prepare ship for ludicruos speed!
http://www.climatefacts.org/ - Everyone but the bad boys have to behave.
> Knight Rider 1
>
> Knight Rider With All-New
> Super Pursuit Options For '86 1
>
> Knight Rider 2000: The Movie 2
>
> Knight Rider 2010: The Movie 3
>
> Team Knight Rider 2.5
>
No, Michael, you may not listen to _The Bee Gees_.
No, Michael, we are not there yet.
I'm sorry Michael, you'll just have to hold it.
Michael, shift up.
Michael, leave me in 'park'.
Michael, my door is open.
Very funny, Michael. Remember, I can eject you and pick any bozo off of
the street to take your place.
Michael, take your finger out of the cigarette lighter.
-Teg
: And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
: names.
They do have names. I've heard them mentioned at some point.
Alas, I don't remember what they are. I've also heard Gilligan's full
name, but it, too, has drifted from my memory.
--Jason Arvey
: --
>Wasn't (isn't?) Kibo that guy that used to appear whenever his name
>figured on the net? Like a sort of Internet Kilroy? He was all over
>the place, but no-one knew where he came from or who he was....
>
>Some info would be appreciated.
>"Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
>===============================================
Mmmmmmm... Bacon.
--
Dean Lenort dean....@worldnet.att.net
European: 'American culture is all crap'
American: 'Why don't you come over here and say that and I'll KICK YOUR ASS'
- Tom Thornhill in alt.religion.kibology on cultural differences
As the duly appointed representative of the 1860s, I hereby declare that
we, the eighteen-fixtief, do hereby annex the year MM to our Noble Decade.
>Nick S Bensema (ni...@primenet.com) wrote:
>
>: And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
>: names.
>
> They do have names. I've heard them mentioned at some point.
>Alas, I don't remember what they are. I've also heard Gilligan's full
>name, but it, too, has drifted from my memory.
Gilligan's first name was Willie, and I think the Skipper's name was
Jonas Quimby. I just recently read the Professor's name somewhere,
but I can't remember it. Mrs. Howell did not have a first name (unless
it was "Lovey").
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew @}-`--}----
Visit me at http://members.aol.com/biffyshrew/biffy.html
Hope I buy before I get sold.
> >> On January 1st, 2000, I predict approximately 5000 deaths from
> >> people getting fed up with arguments over whether the millenium
> >> starts in 2000 or 2001.
>
> Chris> Well then I guess it's safe to start the voting now.... I say
> Chris> the year 2000 is part of the 2000s just like 1990 was part of
> Chris> the 1990s. Seems so simple when you think about it.
>
>If it is so simple, how come Stephen Jay Gould wrote a long book about
>it in which he concluded "I don't know."?
>
>AFAIK, the right thing to do is start partying on New Year's even 1999
>and not stop until New Year's day 2002, because, after all, how often
>do you get to celebrate a millenium and who would want to miss it?
>
Better yet, let's start a thread arguing about it *now*, make occasional
side-references which semi-justify the crossposting of said thread to all
kinds of froups, until by mid-1999 it is running in some form or another in
10000 or so froups, and keep *it* going until 1/1/02, at which point we can
all say "Damn! We forgot to party!".
Hey, it could happen.. this is the INTERNET! THE INFOBAHN! UZEN3TT IZ SO
KQQL, 'CAUSE 0NL33 3L33T UZERS LI|<3 ME C4N FIGG3R QUT H0W 2 UZ IT!!!!11!1!!!
TH03S MED14 GAYZ R SOO R1T3, TH3Y |<NO 3XA|<TL33 WAT ITZ ABOUT!!!!1!!111!!
AND, L1|<3 WHO CAREZ AB0UT THE M1LINIUM MAYB33 B33ING IN 2001? i'M G0NNA
G3T, L1|<3 S00 DRUNK 1N Y2K 'CUZE MY B4D-4SS 0LDER BRO IZ G0NNA H4\/3 4 FAKE
1D 4ND H3 S3Z H3 IZ G0NN4 G3T M3 B33R!!!!1!!1!!!!1!! B33R RO|<Z!!!!!111!!!!
Me, tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1997.
What, you want funny? You want original? You want a joke that hasn't been
pounded into the sand? IDKWYM!
ps - If the show Millenium remains popular, what'll they call it after the
Milennium happens? Hopefully we don't have to worry.
Beable beable mrmee mrmee.
Flollop floopily, young man, flollop floopily.
>Nick S Bensema (ni...@primenet.com) wrote:
>
>: And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
>: names.
>
> They do have names. I've heard them mentioned at some point.
>Alas, I don't remember what they are. I've also heard Gilligan's full
>name, but it, too, has drifted from my memory.
> --Jason Arvey
>
>
Apparently the professor got to Jason too! Probably some designer
hallucinogen by the sound of it.
Hey everybody, I just realized why that car on "Team Knight Rider"
turns into two motorcycles! It's because the Knight Rider car got
a bad reputation after Timothy McVeigh used it to blow up the
Edward R. Murrow building! That's why they had to change the name
of the show from "Team Knight Rider" to "The Penske File"!
(Enter a futuristic woman with no belly button.)
DIANA MULDAUR: SCULLY, BRING ME THE PENSKE EXTRACT!
> Some info would be appreciated.
But other info wouldn't. STOP DISCRIMINATING AGAINST BAD STUFF!!!
-- K.
Bozo scale:
Knight Rider 1
Knight Rider With All-New
Super Pursuit Options For '86 1
Knight Rider 2000: The Movie 2
Knight Rider 2010: The Movie 3
Team Knight Rider 2.5
Everything else in the whole world
except the Princess Di Beany Baby <1
The man slouched lower in his seat, his eyes gone dull long ago, as if he
had lost the capacity for joy. "Oh, who cares?" he drawled, bitterly,
"Who is Kibo?"
KIBOLUV turned her head away, abruptly. She had never liked that phrase.
But she had things to do. As long as she was able, she would fight the
destroyer, the great drainer of brains. Around the country, grad students,
physicists, lawyers, computer programmers were vanishing from their
newsgroups, like the lights of a city winking out before some immense night.
: : "When it comes to information, I believe that
: : more is better."-- Roger McGuinn
: : "Information is not knowledge."-- Frank Zappa
: : "Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
:
: Therefore, LEE MAJORS IS SOCRATES!
Quotes are not syllogisms. Syllogisms are not top-ten lists. Top-ten lists
are not comedy. Comedy is not "funny". "Funny" is not "funny funny".
"Funny funny" is not "killing Bob Hope". "Killing Bob Hope" is not
crossposting to rec.org.mensa. Crossposting to rec.org.mensa is not
B31NG B1FF!!!!1111!! B31NG B!FF is not kibology. Kibology is the
greatest of all of these. --You Can't Do That on USENET Anymore,
volume 27b-6
--
Stephen Tanner (tan...@math.wisc.edu)
On 16 Dec 1997, Teg Pipes wrote:
> ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>
> > Knight Rider 1
> >
> > Knight Rider With All-New
> > Super Pursuit Options For '86 1
> >
> > Knight Rider 2000: The Movie 2
> >
> > Knight Rider 2010: The Movie 3
> >
> > Team Knight Rider 2.5
> >
>
> No, Michael, you may not listen to _The Bee Gees_.
>
> No, Michael, we are not there yet.
>
> I'm sorry Michael, you'll just have to hold it.
>
> Michael, shift up.
>
> Michael, leave me in 'park'.
>
> Michael, my door is open.
>
> Very funny, Michael. Remember, I can eject you and pick any bozo off of
> the street to take your place.
>
> Michael, take your finger out of the cigarette lighter.
Michael, a door is a jar.
Michael, pass me the door of strawberry marmalade.
Michael, dwarves are people, too.
Michael, Straight
FLEOEVDETYHOEUPROEONREWMEILECSOFMOERSGTIRVAENRGEEARDSTVHIESBIITBTLHEEPSRIACYK
Ethical Mirth Gas/"I'm chaste alright."/Magic Hitler Hats/"Hath grace limits?"
"Irate clam thighs!"/Chili Hamster Tag/The Gilt Charisma/"I gather this calm."
On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, James Kibo Parry wrote:
> In a.r.k & alt.fan.frank-zappa, Steve Cobham (st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk) sez:
> >
> > Leah Verre (leahv.ba...@badaddress.humongous.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you think Frank Zappa was a kibologist?
> > >
> > > Kibologists have always understood the importance and mandatory irrelevence
> > > of Conceptual Continuity.
> > > If it's funny once ... it's funny ALL OVER YOUR SCREEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Wasn't (isn't?) Kibo that guy that used to appear whenever his name
> > figured on the net? Like a sort of Internet Kilroy? He was all over
> > the place, but no-one knew where he came from or who he was....
>
> Hey everybody, I just realized why that car on "Team Knight Rider"
> turns into two motorcycles! It's because the Knight Rider car got
> a bad reputation after Timothy McVeigh used it to blow up the
> Edward R. Murrow building! That's why they had to change the name
> of the show from "Team Knight Rider" to "The Penske File"!
Kibo is trying to say that Frank Zappa is the Greatest American Hero!
But someone put a bozo filter over his mouth!
Wouldn't that be a great gag!
SMTIRCAHIAGEHLT
Chris escribió:
> "Riboflavin" <ri...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
> >Usenet is like a great big salad. But I haven't found any croutons yet.
>
> Yeah, after you eat it you're still hungry.
>
> >On January 1st, 2000, I predict approximately 5000 deaths from people
> >getting fed up with arguments over whether the millenium starts in 2000 or
> >2001.
>
> Well then I guess it's safe to start the voting now....
> I say the year 2000 is part of the 2000s just like 1990 was part
> of the 1990s. Seems so simple when you think about it.
>
> -Chris (Them's fightin' werds)
There was no Year 0, so Year 1 B.C. was the LAST year of the 1st Century B.C.,
and Year 1 A.D. was the FIRST year of the 1st Century A.D.
So the Year 2001 is the FIRST year of the 21st Century.
So the Second Millenium will begin the first day of January, 2001.
Now that I know that, I know I won't be one of the 5000. Phew...
And, you know, the Eons are Closing...
> -- K.
>
> Bozo scale:
>
> Knight Rider 1
>
> Knight Rider With All-New
> Super Pursuit Options For '86 1
>
> Knight Rider 2000: The Movie 2
>
> Knight Rider 2010: The Movie 3
>
> Team Knight Rider 2.5
>
> Everything else in the whole world
> except the Princess Di Beany Baby <1
What about the Knight Rider episodes with Michael's evil twin brother,
Garthe, and the big black semi-truck, Golaith? Shouldn't they be
considering seperate and special from the other episodes? I'd also
classify them as a 1.5 on the open-ended bozosity scale.
-brian.
--
---
Brian Chase <(o)> <(o)> http://world.std.com/~bdc/ VAXZilla LIVES!!!
the best thing about those episodes? how you could tell Garth was the
evil twin because he had a mustache! and how, even though Garth was
supposedly a genius, he couldn't design a Goliath truck that didn't
have a nice weak spot.
don't get me started on KARR. KARR meets KITT in a mid-air collision
and even though they are both made of the same indestructible alloy,
KARR ends up in a million pieces and KITT in one piece. it's like
the Irresistable Force meets the Immovable Object, but the Knight
Rider script writers can solve it because they are the ALEXANDER
ABIANS OF TV SCIENCE.
-brent
Chairman, TV Science Dept., University of Perth Amboy
>No, HE wants to stay. He was performing a psychological experiment on the
>other castaways.
>And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
>names.
They do have names - but they are classified because they are both CIA
operatives.
>There was no Year 0, so Year 1 B.C. was the LAST year of the 1st Century B.C.,
>and Year 1 A.D. was the FIRST year of the 1st Century A.D.
>So the Year 2001 is the FIRST year of the 21st Century.
>So the Second Millenium will begin the first day of January, 2001.
>Now that I know that, I know I won't be one of the 5000. Phew...
>And, you know, the Eons are Closing...
Wait a minute - haven't we already had two millenia? Two thousand
years has to be two complete ones.
And what about all those funny years where they get counted backwards?
Are BC millenia positive or negative? If they're negative, we have a
long ways to go before the net sum is positive. If they're positive,
we have millenia coming out the yinyang.
Yow! Does my yinyang ever need some Preparation Ouch!
On a less fun note, Stephen Jay Gould soberly blasts the idea that we
have to wait until 1/1/2001 to celebrate the new millenium in _Dinosaur
In A Haystack_ -- I don't have it here, but if someone's curious I'll
look it up tonite and let ya know later -- my memory's not what it used
to be. I'm not even sure what it used to be...maybe a hat...
Yers,
John
>st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk (Steve Cobham) wrote:
[snip]
>http://www.kibology.com/ <---URL left for additional publicity
>
>>"Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
>>===============================================
>
>Mmmmmmm... Bacon.
Come to think of it, I always wondered why they named cured pork after
an English dramatist. Also I feel there just isn't enough discussion
about pork products in these newsgroups. When, I ask you, did we last
have a really good thread about, say, prosciutto or pigs-foot jelly?
And the whole question of the relevance of spam fritters to the early
orchestral works of Frank Zappa has been largely overlooked, in my
view.
--R.
p.s. I wrote this just to spook Lisa Pea.
p.p.s. PORK!
: Hey everybody, I just realized why that car on "Team Knight Rider"
: turns into two motorcycles! It's because the Knight Rider car got
: a bad reputation after Timothy McVeigh used it to blow up the
: Edward R. Murrow building! That's why they had to change the name
: of the show from "Team Knight Rider" to "The Penske File"!
: (Enter a futuristic woman with no belly button.)
: DIANA MULDAUR: SCULLY, BRING ME THE PENSKE EXTRACT!
Midnight at the Kiboasis... Maria Muldaur.
Downstairs, where it really matters (can you hear me there downstairs?
I be talkin' to you Mr. Scrotum!! Are you listen'? Have a nice day!!),
this stuff about there was no year "zero" makes no fucking sense to me
whatsoever - even though, once you accept the basic premise, you can
swallow the hook and think it doesn't matter. That's just a year, give
or take four or five based on discrepancies between the Julian and
Gregorian calendars, leap years, gerbil pizzas, anno dominoes,
Hollywood Squares, Wednesday, and an occasional day the earth stood
still because of alien invaders or Old Testament guys who hold their
hands in the air or blow trumpets and make X-Files sorta things happen
we can't understand.
So it's all kinda fucked and arbitrary from the outset - why the hell
should we get anal now just because we have Casio calculators that
plot nifty graphs that make us so self-assured that the empiral nature
of numbers is unquestionable?
Okay, if there was no zero year, then there was no zero millienium. In
the first case, we can write off just 365 days (and who amongst us
haven't done _that_ in just the course of a simple lifetime, whether
or not we intended it?), but writing off an entire millenium is some
bloody serious shit, Charlemagne, Holy Roman Empires, Batman, etc.
So, just for the hell of it, let's say zero counts - fuck the
mathematicians, it's what the people want anyway! They don't want a
resurrected Carl Sagan spoiling their Millenium Eve with
prognostications about nuclear winter and dingleberry distinctions
regarding beginning and endings of intervals.
No sir-REE!
They wanna fuckin' PARTY!
And what better excuse to party than having the Most Significant Digit
of our annual counting system roll over! Hot Damn! It's bigger than
The Turtles! I be gettin' a Woody just thinkin' 'bout it and it's
still over two years away! Holy Fuck! The BIG ONE way over on the left
is gonna become a BIG TWO! Oh, please, somebody fuck me right now,
it's totally fucking AWESOME!
: : And had it really been happening, the Professor and Skipper would have
: : names.
: They do have names. I've heard them mentioned at some point.
: Alas, I don't remember what they are. I've also heard Gilligan's full
: name, but it, too, has drifted from my memory.
His full name was Gilligan Anderson. He also appeared as a character
on "The Doobie Gillian Files".
The others were Professor Poindexter and Skipper The Bush Kangaroo.
HTH!
-- Froggy, who once had a
cute CHYK come on to him
by asking "Ever wonder why
the Professor and Mary Ann
never had sex? Don't you
think they should?"
--
* Fro...@neosoft.com ** "The Information Super-Frog" [dibs] *
* Headquarters: alt.fan.tito ** "Tounge Of Frog" *
http://www.angelfire.com/la/carlosmay/
>On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:12:02 GMT, dean....@worldnet.att.net (Dean
>Lenort) wrote:
>
>>st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk (Steve Cobham) wrote:
>>http://www.kibology.com/ <---URL left for additional publicity <-ME TOO!
>>
>>>"Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
>>
>>Mmmmmmm... Bacon.
>
>Come to think of it, I always wondered why they named cured pork after
>an English dramatist. Also I feel there just isn't enough discussion
>about pork products in these newsgroups. When, I ask you, did we last
>have a really good thread about, say, prosciutto or pigs-foot jelly?
Have you ever had really good head cheese? One of my uncles used to make
the stuff and may still as far as I know. Sure you can buy it, but does
some nameless manufacturer include ALL of the snout? ALL of the brain?
Just ALL of the whole hog's head goodness that goes into a really fine head
cheese? My guess would be that not only do they not maximize the use of
the hog, they probably just toss out a lot of fine material that could do a
head cheese proud but instead wends it's way into our hot dog industry. So
when you ask for head cheese, ask whether it's 100% head cheese.
And don't forget the blood sausage!
P.S. The first question of mine was a trick question. There is no such
thing as good head cheese.
--
Dean Lenort dean....@worldnet.att.net
: Come to think of it, I always wondered why they named cured pork after
: an English dramatist. Also I feel there just isn't enough discussion
: about pork products in these newsgroups. When, I ask you, did we last
: have a really good thread about, say, prosciutto or pigs-foot jelly?
Yesterday. I invited a vegetarian friend to the Chinese Restaurant down
the street as soon as I read that Kibo had declared pork to be a vegestable.
Yay!
But that still leaves the problem of Altoids, which (sorry, Jenn)
is not vegetarian because it's has cattle geletain. (Fun fact:
Altoids started advertising heavily in the USA when their
sales plumeted in Europe over the scare on British products
possibly carrying Mad Cow Disease.) ALTOIDS MUST BE REORBITED
WITH VEGETARIAN PORK TO MAKE VEGAN CHYX BORN AGAIN MINTY FRESH
BLOWJOB QUEENZ!! REPRODUCTION OF THIS IMPORTANT YADA IS BEABLE!
-- Froggy. Now with hardly any risk of
Mad Cow Disease at all. Hardly.
: p.s. I wrote this just to spook Lisa Pea.
^^^^^
If she's not spooked, I sure am.
Also, I suspect YM...
: p.p.s. PORK!
... uh, right.
***********************************************************
* fro...@neosoft.com "The Information Super-Frog" [dibs] *
***********************************************************
>On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:12:02 GMT, dean....@worldnet.att.net (Dean
>Lenort) wrote:
>>st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk (Steve Cobham) wrote:
>[snip]
>>http://www.kibology.com/ <---URL left for additional publicity
>>
>>>"Knowledge is power."-- Francis Bacon
>>>===============================================
>>
>>Mmmmmmm... Bacon.
>Come to think of it, I always wondered why they named cured pork after
>an English dramatist. Also I feel there just isn't enough discussion
>about pork products in these newsgroups. When, I ask you, did we last
>have a really good thread about, say, prosciutto or pigs-foot jelly?
>And the whole question of the relevance of spam fritters to the early
>orchestral works of Frank Zappa has been largely overlooked, in my
>view.
I haven't ever made prosciutto - you gotta keep the stuff at 60
degrees and 70% relative humidity for 6 months as it slowly dries out.
It tends to get moldy, but you just wash that off. But, here's a nice
recipe for a BBQ rub (ay, here's the rub...):
SOUTHERN BBQ RUB
2 Tablespoons kosher salt
2 Tablespoons sugar
3 Tablespoons brown sugar
2 Tablespoons ground cumin
2 Tablespoons chile powder
2 Tablespoons freshly-cracked black pepper
1 Tablespoon cayenne pepper
4 Tablespoons paprika
Simply mix together thorougly. Use liberally on meats to be
slow-cooked barbecued. There is some contention amongst purists as to
whether a "rub" is really rubbed into the meat or just sprinkled on.
Either way, wrap up the brisket or pork butt after you've coated it
and let it sit in the fridge overnight - or, if you're gonna cook it
in the night, overday.
With turpentine and acetone. Did you ever notice that if you
spell "acetone" backwards you get "erotica"? But it only works
if you're smelling it.
> But, here's a nice
> recipe for a BBQ rub (ay, here's the rub...):
>
> SOUTHERN BBQ RUB
>
> 2 Tablespoons kosher salt
Don't use that other salt that's made by distilling bacon.
> 2 Tablespoons sugar
> 3 Tablespoons brown sugar
> 2 Tablespoons ground cumin
> 2 Tablespoons chile powder
> 2 Tablespoons freshly-cracked black pepper
> 1 Tablespoon cayenne pepper
> 4 Tablespoons paprika
BUZZY'S ROAST BEEF NORTHERN BBQ RUB
1 Tablespoon generic ketchup
1 Dash black pepper
1 Quantity shredded Grade W beef
BUZZY'S SLOPPY JOE
1 Tablespoon generic ketchup
1 Dash black pepper
1 Quantity shredded Grade W beef
BUZZY'S VEGETABLE KNISH
1 Tablespoon generic ketchup
1 Dash black pepper
1 Quantity shredded Grade W beef
That's the OLD Buzzy's, not the Yuppified NEW Buzzy's, which has
MASS. EYE & EAR PASTRAMI
1 Tablespoon gourmet ketchup
1 Dash lemon pepper
1 Dash tarragon
1 Dash fruity-ass fruity fruit stuff
1 Quantity shredded Grade W beef
And let's not forget
FRITO-LAY COOL RANCH RUB
10 Boxcars plain Doritos
1 Boxcar red dots
1 Boxcar green specks
1 Boxcar white flecks
1 Tanker car Dorito gas (for bag inflation)
1 Dash Cheez
> Simply mix together thorougly.
Don't fall into the trap of mixing apart thoroughly!
> Use liberally
Hey! You said SOUTHERN!
> on meats to be slow-cooked barbecued. There is some contention
> amongst purists
As to whether to land on Plymouth Rock or land on the beack near the jagged rock
(Digression: someone on ABC World News Now just used the phrase
"it takes the Shrinky-Dink idea farther" while talking about CD-ROMs)
> as to whether a "rub" is really rubbed into the meat or just sprinkled on.
For REAL spicy BBQ, take your chili and cumin and cilantro and coriander
and put it in a pile and sprinkle the meat on it.
> Either way, wrap up the brisket or pork butt
STOP PORKING BUTT IN MY NEWSGROUP!
> after you've coated it and let it sit in the fridge overnight -
> or, if you're gonna cook it in the night, overday.
Spot tried to cook it at night in his Easy-Bake Oven but it's never night
inside an Easy-Bake thanks to that glamorous General Electric hunnerd-watter.
So his Easy-Bake oven just made the meat rawer and rawer. Poor Spot!
He got trichinosis just from looking at it!
-- K.
I still like The Sausagemaker catalog
with its helpful tips on how if you
keep your beef bungs in water they
don't smell quite as hellishly rank
before you eat them.
(I suppose after is another matter.)
HOORAY!!! WARREN KOZAK AND THE
WORLD NEWS POLKA!!! NOW I GOTTA
TAKE MY PANTS OFF!!!
>Have you ever had really good head cheese? One of my uncles used to make
>the stuff and may still as far as I know. Sure you can buy it, but does
>some nameless manufacturer include ALL of the snout? ALL of the brain?
>Just ALL of the whole hog's head goodness that goes into a really fine head
>cheese? My guess would be that not only do they not maximize the use of
>the hog, they probably just toss out a lot of fine material that could do a
>head cheese proud but instead wends it's way into our hot dog industry. So
>when you ask for head cheese, ask whether it's 100% head cheese.
Head cheese does not include the snout or jowls (these are used to
make a pancetta-like bacon). It does include the ears and tongue - but
not the brains (these are cooked separately, most excellent with eggs,
but nearly prohibitively high in cholesterol) - and usually the pork
liver as well. If you are interested in snout-like things, I have a
recipe for jellied moose nose I'll be happy to post. Seems there is a
"light" and a "dark" meat to a moose's nose, and proper serving means
alternating them in the mold before pouring in the cooking broth
(which becomes an aspic, of sorts).
>And don't forget the blood sausage!
aka, "black pudding". A little less disgusting is what the original
German andouille was - a casing stuffed with more casings!
>P.S. The first question of mine was a trick question. There is no such
>thing as good head cheese.
Wrong by my account - there is a sausage shop north of Delaware, OH on
route 23 called Mom Wilson's that makes an excellent head cheese
(though they call it "puddin'"). You boil in down in water, let it fry
slightly, then add some cooked barley. I can't get the good stuff down
here in NC, so every time I go back home to Columbus, OH, I drive up
to Mom Wilson's and buy a few pounds for my freezer. It's best
accompanied by crepe-thin buttermilk pancakes topped with homemade
brown sugar syrup, washed down with a dopplebock.
> My guess would be that not only do they not maximize the use of
>the hog, they probably just toss out a lot of fine material that could do a
>head cheese proud but instead wends it's way into our hot dog industry.
..oh, and BTW, no - the USDA does not allow these things in hot dogs.
They are made mostly from pork shoulder and are more likely to be
"extended" with vegetable proteins (like soy powder) than offal. The
emulsifying process used to make them (meat alone in a gigantic food
processor is chopped fine near the freezing point. this gradually
raises the temperature to around 40 degrees, where the fat is added -
it won't properly emulsify without it - then it is processed to about
45 degrees and the fillers are added - they'd be kinda limp without
'em). Things like gristle and such simply cannot be emulsified - they
would stay in large inedible chunks and there would be no way to hide
them. Better to sell the ears for $4 a pound to yuppies for their dogs
to chew on while they make burnt weenie sandwiches out of Hebrew
Nationals. In general, there are ethnic markets for all offal that are
too lucrative to use them inappropriately in sausages. For example, on
the retail level you can expect to find pork shoulder (primo hot dog
stuff) for under a buck-fifty a pound while something like tripe or
beef tongue costs closer to four. IOW, it simply is not legal, not
possible, and very commercially unfeasible to put those things in
weenies.