"Why didn't Errol Flynn play Zorro?"
Deborah G. Buckner
the Tyrone Power Zorro film, complete with Basil Rathbone as the villain and
Eugene Pallette as the priest. Hence, the question: "Why didn't Errol
Flynn play Zorro?" Was he considered for the role? I bet Snausages has the
answer!
Deb
SirG...@bigfoot.com
well Im no expert but wasn't The Mark Of Zorro(my first swashbuckler by the
way) a 20th century fox film and well Errol was Warners player at the time
and I'd say the filmhad a modest budget, Ty Power wasn't exactly a hot
property.
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Snausages
>
>> My seven-year-old son just posed this question to me. This summer, we saw
>> the Tyrone Power Zorro film, complete with Basil Rathbone as the villain and
>> Eugene Pallette as the priest. Hence, the question: "Why didn't Errol
>> Flynn play Zorro?" Was he considered for the role? I bet Snausages has the
>> answer!
>
>well Im no expert but wasn't The Mark Of Zorro(my first swashbuckler by the
>way) a 20th century fox film and well Errol was Warners player at the time
>and I'd say the filmhad a modest budget, Ty Power wasn't exactly a hot
>property.
Right -- he was considered but Fox couldn't afford him. And let's face
it: He wouldn't exactly pass for a Spanish caballero. There's a rumour
of him having taken part in the radio adaptation though.
Snausages
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Deborah G. Buckner
Snausages wrote in message <36291b26...@news.panix.com>...
>On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:28:15 GMT, SirG...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>
>>
>>> My seven-year-old son just posed this question to me. This summer, we
saw
>>> the Tyrone Power Zorro film, complete with Basil Rathbone as the villain
and
>>> Eugene Pallette as the priest. Hence, the question: "Why didn't Errol
>>> Flynn play Zorro?" Was he considered for the role? I bet Snausages has
the
>>> answer!
>Right -- he was considered but Fox couldn't afford him. And let's face
>it: He wouldn't exactly pass for a Spanish caballero. There's a rumour
>of him having taken part in the radio adaptation though.
>
>Snausages
Thanks. I knew you would know. If Flynn could be a cowboy, I imagine with
a little hair dye he could have been Zorro, too. It is kind of weird, as my
son said, to "see Friar Tuck as the priest and Guy of Gisborne as the bad
guy, but not Robin Hood as Zorro." I certainly believe that Fox couldn't
afford him (whether the dollar amount was set by Jack Warner or by Flynn
himself).
Deb
Snausages
<sb...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Right -- he was considered but Fox couldn't afford him. And let's face
>>it: He wouldn't exactly pass for a Spanish caballero. There's a rumour
>>of him having taken part in the radio adaptation though.
>>
>a little hair dye he could have been Zorro, too.
With that inflection?
You know, cowboys are not uncommon in Australia. Only that he was
always being passed for Irish (why was that so convincing?).
>It is kind of weird, as my
>son said, to "see Friar Tuck as the priest and Guy of Gisborne as the bad
>guy, but not Robin Hood as Zorro." I certainly believe that Fox couldn't
>afford him (whether the dollar amount was set by Jack Warner or by Flynn
>himself).
Heh! Yeah that's true! Then again Rathbone was a free agent and I
dunno about Palette (sp?)
Michael Cummins
> With that inflection?
>
> You know, cowboys are not uncommon in Australia. Only that he was
> always being passed for Irish (why was that so convincing?).
well would it not have been better for wartime morale if warners said he
was british or an aussie, rather than saying he was from some neutral
country whom people suspected of being in league with Germany, but, the the
british aren't the most popular race in the world are they?
Pity he wasn't Irish because he'd be like a national hero and I could visit
his birth place and buy books and videos easily.
Snausages
wrote:
>> You know, cowboys are not uncommon in Australia. Only that he was
>> always being passed for Irish (why was that so convincing?).
>
>well would it not have been better for wartime morale if warners said he
>was british or an aussie, rather than saying he was from some neutral
>country whom people suspected of being in league with Germany, but, the the
>british aren't the most popular race in the world are they?
>
Hasn't hurt Cary Gant any.
And let's face it: Alan Hale could sound more Irish.
Flynn was Australian in DESPERATE JOURNEY. He seemed to broaden his
inflection for the role, but then gave up / got lazy early on.
>Pity he wasn't Irish because he'd be like a national hero and I could visit
>his birth place and buy books and videos easily.
>
Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
SirG...@bigfoot.com
> Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
>
That's not a very nice thing to say but I don't think anybody would have
cared.
Snausages
>
>
>
>> Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
>>
>
>That's not a very nice thing to say but I don't think anybody would have
>cared.
>
It was a realistic observation. You already know where I stand in how
that book affected EVERYTHING with regard to Flynn's place in history.
Either you can handle the reality of defamation and can speculate the
probabilities or can't.
And let's face is: Nobody can truly speculate for a nation. But it can
make for good discussion with open-minded and objective people.
>shrug<
SirG...@bigfoot.com
> >> Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
> >>
> >
> >That's not a very nice thing to say but I don't think anybody would have
> >cared.
> >
>
> It was a realistic observation.
Your observation(Before or after the Higham release?) in question form asked
would the fact that the man was a Nazi(implied)make him a national hero, which
in turn asks is Ireland a country full of Nazi's, an unusual remark.
>You already know where I stand in how
> that book affected EVERYTHING with regard to Flynn's place in history.
I don't recall reading the Snausages Manifesto on the matter.
> Either you can handle the reality of defamation and can speculate the
> probabilities or can't.
That(and other parts of the post) smacks of a personal attack which has no
place in a public forum.
> And let's face is: Nobody can truly speculate for a nation. But it can
> make for good discussion with open-minded and objective people.
quite true, but Ireland's current political climate and recent history would
seem to indicate that if someone is liked they don't care what they have done
i.e President De Valera's involvment or lack of in the murder of General
Michael Collins and the whole treatment of irregulars and Fianna Fail after
the War Of Idependance and up to the present day. I might well be wrong or
might be right.
Zaca
SirG...@bigfoot.com wrote in article <717r3f$307$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
>
> > >> Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
> > >>
> > >
> > >That's not a very nice thing to say but I don't think anybody would
have
> > >cared.
> > >
More to the point: Do you really believe anyone took Higham's book
seriously? You didn't have to wait for "The Spy Who Never Was" to see that
the evidence Higham presented did not support the his conclusions.
I think it was John Huston who provided the most succinct rebuttal when he
asked: "Who in their right mind would tell a secret to Errol Flynn?"
Later --
-- Zaca
SirG...@bigfoot.com
>
> I think it was John Huston who provided the most succinct rebuttal when he
> asked: "Who in their right mind would tell a secret to Errol Flynn?"
>
You've done it Zaca you hit the nail on the head, the ultimate rebuttal.
And might I add a pinch of David Niven "you always knew where you stood with
errol, he'd always let you down". Quite probably a misquote, my apologies.
Snausages
>> I think it was John Huston who provided the most succinct rebuttal when he
>> asked: "Who in their right mind would tell a secret to Errol Flynn?"
Heh! Never heard that one, but it's a winner!
>>
>You've done it Zaca you hit the nail on the head, the ultimate rebuttal.
>And might I add a pinch of David Niven "you always knew where you stood with
>errol, he'd always let you down". Quite probably a misquote, my apologies.
>
A notorious misquote, because it continued after that to elaborate. It
wasn't an absolute nor damning statement taken in its correct context.
Niven meant it in a fond manner.
Snausages
>
>
>> >> Heh! Before or after the Higham release?
>> >>
>> >
>> >That's not a very nice thing to say but I don't think anybody would have
>> >cared.
>> >
>>
>> It was a realistic observation.
>Your observation(Before or after the Higham release?) in question form asked
>would the fact that the man was a Nazi(implied)make him a national hero, which
>in turn asks is Ireland a country full of Nazi's, an unusual remark.
>
It does? Interesting interpretation. Very way out there. If you've
read the intro on my site, I relate how Flynn suddenly disappeared
from movie books after that time of terror made its debut.
I would think it have stunned more than the USA silent. And I still
get mail from people very confused by those of influence who continue
to use it as a resource.
>
>I don't recall reading the Snausages Manifesto on the matter.
Well the URL is below. Maybe humble that flame of yours while you
learn how thousands were duped in 1980 and a man who entertained
millions over decades was cast aside. It wasn't just me, and it wasn't
pretty.
>> Either you can handle the reality of defamation and can speculate the
>> probabilities or can't.
>That(and other parts of the post) smacks of a personal attack which has no
>place in a public forum.
>
That's right Mr Manifesto. So either you can handle a discussion or
don't follow up to my posts. Thank you.
Zaca
Snausages <Prince...@bigfoot.com> wrote in article
<363fd34a....@news.panix.com>...
>
> >> I think it was John Huston who provided the most succinct rebuttal
when he
> >> asked: "Who in their right mind would tell a secret to Errol Flynn?"
>
> Heh! Never heard that one, but it's a winner!
It was on a late night talk show about the time the Higham book came out,
and I may have it wrong, but that was the gist of it. Might have been "Who
would believe anything EF told them?" -- anyway, it was funny and on target
and probably went some way towards ending the Nazi spy nonsense.
Zaca
Snausages
>It was on a late night talk show about the time the Higham book came out,
>and I may have it wrong, but that was the gist of it. Might have been "Who
>would believe anything EF told them?" -- anyway, it was funny and on target
>and probably went some way towards ending the Nazi spy nonsense.
Both are pretty apropos.
He asked Eleanor Roosevelt - among others - whether he could spy for
OUR side. His reliability and health of course made that impossible,
and in a way it's fortunate he was told "thanks but no thanks" to the
suggestion (it was a rather casual suggestion btw). He'd have made a
terrible spy!