Enya and latin
Paolo Tacconi
I'm quite sorry to see this newsgroup so empty!
There would be so many things to say about Enya's albums.
For example, I'd like to know somebody's opinion about the latin
pronunciaton on songs like Cursum Perficio, Afer Ventus etc...
I like Enya very much, but I always disliked to hear her say "cursum
per-fee-see-o".
Ok, nobody knows exactly how the Romans pronounced it...
but it should sound surely like Italian or Spanish, not like English.
So PERFICIO should have only 3 syllables (not 4):
"PER" sounds nearly like PERfect
"FI" sounds like FEver
"CIO" like CHOcolate
I could say something like this for words like "zephirus", "phoebus"...
Fortunately these mistakes can't stop me to love those wonderful songs!
Paolo T.
Dean McNally
Paolo Tacconi <tacc...@unisi.it> wrote:
>I'm quite sorry to see this newsgroup so empty!
Try alt.music.enya
ViaAstra
But her native toungue is english- so naturally she will distort the
pronunciations- english always butchers the words it confiscates from
other languages...
ASTRA - You can see the stars and still not see the light.
kni...@yakko.cs.wmich.edu
On 1996-09-19 tacc...@unisi.it said:
>I'm quite sorry to see this newsgroup so empty!
>There would be so many things to say about Enya's albums.
>For example, I'd like to know somebody's opinion about the latin
>pronunciaton on songs like Cursum Perficio, Afer Ventus etc...
>I like Enya very much, but I always disliked to hear her say "cursum
>per-fee-see-o".
>Ok, nobody knows exactly how the Romans pronounced it...
>but it should sound surely like Italian or Spanish, not like
>English.
>So PERFICIO should have only 3 syllables (not 4):
>"PER" sounds nearly like PERfect
>"FI" sounds like FEver
>"CIO" like CHOcolate
>I could say something like this for words like "zephirus",
>"phoebus"... Fortunately these mistakes can't stop me to love those
>wonderful songs!
Cursum Perficio would be "Kur-soom Per-fik-i-o"
Afer Ventus would be "Ah-fur Wen-tus"
Zephirus would be "Ze-per-oos"
Phoebus would be "Foo-boos" (I think)
I took Latin for 3 yrs and these would be the "correct" pronunciations as
seen by the educational institutions... but like you said, who really knows.
I hope I got the pronunciation spellings correct (it's been about 4 yrs
since I studied Latin... :) oops... sorry Magistra Felkel! :) ...).
Anyways, that doesn't take away from the songs IMHO... :)
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Alex
Paolo Tacconi (tacc...@unisi.it) wrote:
: I'm quite sorry to see this newsgroup so empty!
: There would be so many things to say about Enya's albums.
: For example, I'd like to know somebody's opinion about the latin
: pronunciaton on songs like Cursum Perficio, Afer Ventus etc...
: I like Enya very much, but I always disliked to hear her say "cursum
: per-fee-see-o".
: Ok, nobody knows exactly how the Romans pronounced it...
: but it should sound surely like Italian or Spanish, not like English.
: So PERFICIO should have only 3 syllables (not 4):
: "PER" sounds nearly like PERfect
As it would be pronounced in Italian, rather than in English :)
: "FI" sounds like FEver
: "CIO" like CHOcolate
Actually Classical Latin would have always pronounced the 'c' as a /k/.
Pronunciation as English 'ch' as above was a very late development in Latin
(several centuries A.D., when the language was already fragmenting into the
dialects that would become the Spanish, French, Italian etc, that we know
today).
: I could say something like this for words like "zephirus", "phoebus"...
: Fortunately these mistakes can't stop me to love those wonderful songs!
I don't notice them, only "cursum perficio" which gets on my nerves a bit
too.:)
: Paolo T.
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Alex, playing Adiemus "Songs of Sanctuary" --- beautiful
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Shayna Franklin
Hi. I'm Shayna. I am also a HUGE fan of Enya. I didn't know that some
of the songs were in Latin. Someone told me it was Celtic, but thanks
for the info! ;)
Jim Waters
In article <51vfhf$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
Actually, Enya's native tongue is Irish Gaelic; English is her *second*
language.
-- Jim Waters <jwa...@az.com>
Craig Patstone
Jim Waters <jiwa...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> wrote in article
<52dkis$o...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>...
> In article <51vfhf$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> ViaAstra <viaa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> -- Jim Waters <jwa...@az.com>
> I'm a fan of Enya and a student of english, french and latin. I must
comment on your statement that "english always butchers the words it
confiscates." English does not butcher anything it simply applies it's own
accent to words that it borrows from other languages in order to better
itself. All languages do the same thing. And as for Enya's latin accent,
do you think a citizen of Hibernia would speak the exact same tongue of
Iulius Caeser or any other citizen of Roma
> Andrew Patstone <pats...@nbnet.nb.ca>
ViaAstra
You are of course correct and my use of the word butcher was certainly a
poor choice
ViaAstra
Like spanish or itailian- hmmm who knows- but it certainly will not sound
like english- especially when the vowel shift of the 16th century is taken
into account- and there were probably a lot of other changes we are
totally unaware of !