Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul McCartney combined?
IConnec808
in every country in the world, and racked up 5 million album sales in a month,
making his album the biggest selling new release in the world??
And at the same time Elton John completly floped?? Well in the Music industry
they say you are only as big a your current album. Which makes MJ King of Pop
and Elton John king flop.
Rizzo219
sales, we just love good music!
Tom Morrow
he looks like a wrinkled dick.
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IslandGirl
Tom Morrow wrote:
> Let's see how many records the pedophile sells when he's in his mid 50's and
> he looks like a wrinkled dick.
LMAO!!! I thought that is what he was looking like NOW!!!!!!!!!
--
THE IslandGirl...Sharon
When stars collide, like you and I...
Visit my Elton page at
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IConnec808
maybe like you said, it's just not good music.
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: rizz...@aol.com (Rizzo219)
Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2001 6:35 AM
Message-id: <20011210173555...@mb-co.aol.com>
IConnec808
that.
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: "Tom Morrow" tmo...@aol.com
Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2001 6:37 AM
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Dave
MJ has a loooooong way to go before he even breaks even. Considering that
the name of the game is making money it would appear to me that MJ isn't
doing so well is he?
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EJFANatic
will end up like Elton.....
Elton has the dubious title of being eccentric. While Mike has the dubious
title of being a pedophile.
I dont know what world you live in.....eccentricity is a better way to be
remembered.news:20011210184233...@mb-fb.aol.com...
SpndHsMony
>
>
And Good, Honest, Heartfelt Music
is what we got with Elton's New Album.
(SFTWC) No fluff...all Elton!!!!!
Rizzo219
I guess with MJ it's the quantity where with Elton, it's the quality with the
quantity.
Rizzo219
Also Mr "Tee-hee" Jackson. Isn't 43 years old a bit old for sleepovers with
young boys?
Rizzo219
all the kiddies wouldn't buy anything the pedophile puts out.
Greg
Listen, dude, I'd be quite disturbed also if I forced myself, like you
Jackson nuts, to listen to "Invincible" all the way through multiple
times.
That is one rancid disk, if you ask me and any other respected critic
of music. The album is an absolute joke boasting melodies that Elton
John could fart out and they'd sound better.
Look at the reviews. Rolling Stone, Spin, New Melody Maker,
Entertainment Weekly...I really don't think there was a solid review
anywhere. And most were awful.
I had to listen to it once...probably the worst experience of my life
that will undoubtedly cause nightmares for years to come.
And if you really want to talk sales, by Elton John's 6th album he had
reached international superstardom that compared only to the Elvis and
the Beatles. By Michael Jackson's 6th album (Invincible) he is THE #1
joke in America. The guy is a recluse, he wears surgical masks, he
hired a wife to bear his children, he disfigured himself...his life is
like a bad movie.
And, you'd think that Jackson's first album of new material in years
would be greeted better with more than 1 fuckin' week at #1. You
gotta be kidding me if you think that is a great achievement.
Look at the British charts--I think you'll find that Elton John is
steamrolling over the so-called "Invincible" CD.
Even if it wasn't, Elton will be back with more new music in no time
at all while you guys have to wait another 6 years listening to
"Invincible". I'm crying at the thought, despite the fact that you
all deserve that punishment for being so ignorant--as listeners of
music and as people.
Greg
kyle.
>1 >in every country in the world, and racked up 5 million album sales in a
No itz not really true. Itz almost out of the Top 20 in itz fifth week. & it
was only the biggest selling new release for THAT week. Madonna's GHV2 holdz
the record for biggest selling new release in the UK this year in itz first
week. Of course her last album Music, debuted at #1 in most every country in
the world, but that album stayed in the Top 20 for three months.
I love Michael, but is salez aint what they use to be.
Also, for this year, *N Sync holdz the record for biggest first week salez,
followed by Britney, Creed, Garth Brooks & Madonna's 3rd greatest hits album.
kyle.
www.kylemcmahon.com
JackHandy
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Me too Sharon! LOL
JackHandy
Feelgoodasmillon
just made 75 million back in sales the first month! Top that Elton John!
FGM
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: rizz...@aol.com (Rizzo219)
Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2001 9:04 AM
Message-id: <20011210200430...@mb-cl.aol.com>
Iceonfire
I would not trust myself alone with Michael Jackson! Not even for a
minute!
Why? Duh. I am a young man. I would be scared that Michael would
molest me, make me sleep with him, touch me. I'd go hug Elton any
time. He would not violate me, and Elton's even gay! But then again,
the number of people who molest small children is extremely
small--only a few extraordinarily warped perverts. Michael is one of
them. Give Michael Jackson a young man any day, and he flies all over
the world putting the boy in deluxe hotel suites with movies so they
can bond together. No, I don't think I would want to meet the 43 year
old plastic white woman known as Michael "Tee-Hee / Grab My Crotch"
Jackson. It'd be disgusting to see a woman that ugly make passes at
me! Vomit-city!
Michael Jackson might say in concert, "Duuh, there are two kinds of
peoples; 1 kind of peoples is the kind that eat cereal; they are good.
The other kind of peoples is the kind that go to sleep after 10 pm;
they are bad. I go eat cereal." FREAK!!!!!!! In my never-to-occur
concert, I say, "There are two kinds of performers, idiotic twats who
get out there and interpret crap they don't understand and which they
didn't craft themselves. The other kind are genuine songwriters who
give life to their own artistry. Elton John is such a musical god,
never one to be a dancing old circus act like Michael Jackson."
There's one difference between their current albums: quality. Emily
Dickinson didn't publish more than NINE poems in her life time. Look
at her now, versus Lord Alfred Tennyson, who was the god of poetry
then? Tennyson has fallen so much in the canon that he is a big
freaking joke now! Nobody takes him seriously! And Dickinson is
universally revered. People don't remember shit, and taht's what
Michael's work is--utterly revolting, unmemorable rubbish that he paid
in excess of $30 million for numerous other artists to write. What a
farce that woman is--talk about a clown! Oh, but they will remember,
Michael, I promise you that, but tell you what--this is what they will
remember: They'll remember his nose falling off, his skin and gender
going flip-flop. Hey, the freak's music has been forgotten for the
last 10 years, and since they don't even play this current INVISIBLE
shit on the radio anywhere, except maybe on some twisted Michael
Jackson fan internet radio station, it will be forgotten within the
year. Elton John is different. He is a songwritter, and for the past
30 years he has written better material than anyone, and it has proven
itself timeless, which is demonstrated to anyone with half a brain who
has listened to the radio even a few times in the last decade. When
was the last time anyone heard "Billie Jean" on the radio? Halloween!
It's when the freaks come out to play!
When Michael turns 50 and comes out of his Faeryland wonderland, after
being charged with molesting his own children, and releasing his 7th
album, it will flop. The reason is because by that time, although he
will still look like a disfigured circus freak, old age would hav
deterioated him so much that there would be no satisfaction in
laughing at his looks; after all, people don't like vomitting, so they
would hardly wanna look at a creature that would cause it. So when he
does release his seventh album called I AM PERFECT, I AM MICHAEL
JACKSON, it will flop. Oh, it might go #1 a week, maybe 2 weeks, but
that will just because it would be weird to see a performer who has no
hair, no nose, and pale white skin with blonde hair, a wrinkled,
broken body thin as a leaf due to AIDS or dieting or plastic surgery.
Michael will probably cry to Oprah that it was alien abduction, and
prove it by showing a picture of his penis or something (which he did
on MTV a number of years ago to "prove" he didn't molest kids). But
all that will fade, and I AM PERFECT, I AM MICHAEL JACKSON, will
quickly fall to #189 week 3, failing to ever chart again, and that
will be his career. But look at Sir Elton right now at age 54--he's
fat, he's gay, he's old, he has a hair weave, and his album is doing
amazing well. And it is better than anything he did since TOO LOW FOR
ZERO!!! Musically he hasn't been this on fire and almost 20 years
(some say 25 years!). Right now Michael, musically, is dead, or less
than a bag of shit (completely moribund), so who can IMAGINE what he
will be like even at age 50! Just be sure to still keep young boys
away from the plastic pedaphile (ph)reak!
JackHandy
JackHandy
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pedophile-worshipping NG, since they don't want to stay away from ours.
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Feelgoodasmillon
KING OF POP :) ELTON JOHN KING OF FLOP.YOU DO THE MATH.
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2001 6:31 PM
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Karen M
feelgood...@aol.com (Feelgoodasmillon) wrote:
> 5 MILLION ALBUMS AT AVGERAGE $15.00 A CD. COMES OUT TO 75 MILLION!!!! MJ IS
> KING OF POP :) ELTON JOHN KING OF FLOP.YOU DO THE MATH.
Before you say he "made" 75 mil, you need to subtract expenses.
75 mil sales
- 30 mil production costs
- untold millions in promotional costs, including videos (aka:recoupment)
- countless millions of continuing/future sales lost because the critics and
"casual" fans say the thing sucked
= not such a spectacular showing
Elton's latest, OTOH, has won critical aclaim and seems to be selling very
steadily.
It's kinda like the ol'tortoise and the hare. Fast and flashy doesn't
always win the race.
Karen
JackHandy
"Karen M" <itsk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Very good point Karen. He still didn't cite any source for his dollar
figure. Perhaps these Michael Jackson fans just don't understand what I mean
when I say that.
JackHandy
Feelgoodasmillon
McCartney combined?
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 2:54 AM
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Karen
>>
Karen you claims are all vague, subjective smoke and mirrors stuff. I am
talking cold hard numbers here. Every musical source from Sony to Bill Board
has reported MJ sold 5 millon albums world wide and anyone can multiply by $15
x 5 will see his Album has genrated 75 million!!!!:)))))
MJ is doing his job, he is making the sales and generating the cash.
Now how Sony deducted it's expnses etc ect is up to them and their bussiness,
but it has nothing to with the fact that MJ sold more records than Elton John.
A fact that for some crazy reason is just too much for certain whacko Elton
John fans to handle.
So I must agree too, that MJ is still the King of Pop and sad to say Elton John
is a flop, at least on this album. Maybe the one he will relase next month will
do better.
FGM
Feelgoodasmillon
Johns CD maybe it wouldnothave flopped.
FGM
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: "JackHandy" jackhandy...@CAPSelton-fan.net
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 3:18 AM
Message-id: <MZsR7.66518$C8.39...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>
Chrism
understanding of basic business. Do you think music stores sell CD's out of
the goodness of their hearts? They take a cut off the top of that $15, then
distributors might well get a cut. The record company spent millions on
promotional fees, and the video for You Rock My World undoubtedly cost a
great deal as well--Michael would never have been that big in the pre-video
era. Subtract costs for album artists, and songwriting credits to other
writers, and the fees for his agents and publicists. Then subtract the $30
million investment in making the album--one that took 3 years of production
to get 2 or 2 1/2 star reviews. If I were the record company, I would
seriously rethink how much of an asset a new Michael Jackson album is. His
back catalog is the only thing valuable to them. Elton's going strong at 54,
and he'll be going strong for at least another 5-10 years. Chester the
Molester, on the other hand, will not be a star at age 50. I guarantee it.news:20011211153228...@mb-ce.aol.com...
JackHandy
> talking cold hard numbers here. Every musical source from Sony to Bill
Board
> has reported MJ sold 5 millon albums world wide and anyone can multiply by
$15
> x 5 will see his Album has genrated 75 million!!!!:)))))
>
> MJ is doing his job, he is making the sales and generating the cash.
>
> Now how Sony deducted it's expnses etc ect is up to them and their
bussiness,
> but it has nothing to with the fact that MJ sold more records than Elton
John.
>
> A fact that for some crazy reason is just too much for certain whacko
Elton
> John fans to handle.
>
> So I must agree too, that MJ is still the King of Pop and sad to say Elton
John
> is a flop, at least on this album. Maybe the one he will relase next month
will
> do better.
>
> FGM
>
To cite your source means to post a link to prove your claim of Michael Pedo
Jackson selling five million albums worldwide. For instance, if I was to say
that Elton John is the number two highest selling solo artist of all time in
the USA with over 60 million in sales I would quote the source:
http://www.riaa.com/Gold-Intro.cfm
to back up my claim. The number one highest seller is Garth Brooks. I didn't
see Michael Jackson even listed there and he's an American. Now keep in mind
these sales totals are only for the USA. I did find that "Thriller" is tied
with the Eagles "Greatest Hits" as the all time highest selling album in the
USA, but someone else will undoubtedly break that record.
Michael Jackson's new album has only sold 1 million units in the USA since
its release on 10-30-01. If I was to say that Billboard doesn't like his new
album I'd quote the source:
http://www.billboard.com/billboard/reviews/review_displayprint.jsp?vnu_conte
nt_id=1099621
to back up that claim. MJ's album was certified platinum on 12-3-01 with at
least 1 million units sold. Here's the source for that:
http://www.billboard.com/billboard/riaa/platinum.jsp .
It seems Michael's new album has dropped in both sales and likability and is
currently #17 on the Billboard 200 album chart, down from #11 last week. I
see it failing miserably by all information I can find about it. Bad
reviews, slipping sales, and the Michael Pedo Jackson freakshow draws to a
close... His new album has been determined by the most reliable recording
industry sources as a suckfest of terrible tunes.
JackHandy
Feelgoodasmillon
make. That's a FACT!!!! 75 MILL!!! :)))
McCartney combined?
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 5:02 AM
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Shubes61
Jackson selling five million albums worldwide. For instance, if I was to say
that Elton John is the number two highest selling solo artist of all time in
the USA with over 60 million in sales I would quote the source:
http://www.riaa.com/Gold-Intro.cfm to back up my claim. The number one highest
seller is Garth Brooks. I didn't see Michael Jackson even listed there and he's
an American. Now keep in mind these sales totals are only for the USA. I did
find that "Thriller" is tied with the Eagles "Greatest Hits" as the all time
highest selling album in the USA, but someone else will undoubtedly break that
record.
Michael Jackson's new album has only sold 1 million units in the USA since
its release on 10-30-01. If I was to say that Billboard doesn't like his new
album I'd quote the source:
http://www.billboard.com/billboard/reviews/review_displayprint.jsp?vnu_con
tent_id=1099621 to back up that claim. MJ's album was certified platinum on
12-3-01 with at least 1 million units sold. Here's the source for that:
http://www.billboard.com/billboard/riaa/platinum.jsp . >>
BRAVO, JACK!!!
denice
Karen M
<cmccle...@home.com> wrote:
> You are an idiot. Your math makes no sense and shows a total lack of
> understanding of basic business. Do you think music stores sell CD's out of
> the goodness of their hearts? They take a cut off the top of that $15, then
> distributors might well get a cut.
Don't forget that "units shipped" does not equal "units sold", so all
those CD sitting on the racks shouldn't be counted in the total.
With no effort whatsoever,
Karen
Feelgoodasmillon
JOHN FANS TO ACCEPT HE FLOPED??? MJ SOLD 5 MILLION ! THATS A SIMPLE FACT :))))
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: itsk...@hotmail.com (Karen M)
Message-id: <itskarenm-111...@10.0.1.32>
Feelgoodasmillon
Well thanks for verifying MJ the 5 million world wide sales. , And yes 1
million of those are from USA, PLATINUM. What did Elton John do??? F L O P P ED
:-)
P.S.
MJ is just getting started, and on his way to another 20 million seller album.
It takes Elton John 40 albums to even come close to MJ's six mega hits.
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: "JackHandy" jackhandy...@CAPSelton-fan.net
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 5:50 AM
Message-id: <LcvR7.224092$8q.21...@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>
Feelgoodasmillon
SELLING ALBUM IN THE WORLD!!!!! LET'S SEE ELTON EVER BEAT THRILLER :)))
MJ KING OF POP FOREVER!!
FGM
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: shub...@aol.com (Shubes61)
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 6:04 AM
Message-id: <20011211170417...@mb-mv.aol.com>
Rizzo219
rom: feelgood...@aol.com
Qwel
Qwel
Qwel
Dave
5 million albums sold at average $15. Most top 40 albums can be bought at
the local electronic store for $15Cdn. Assuming the store makes a 30%
profit that would mean they bought the CB wholesale for 11.50 Cdn, which
equates to approx. $7 U.S. Someone posted that MJ has the highest royalty
rate of $5/CD. That would mean that Sony is making approx. $2/CD. What is
the cost of distribution and manufacturing of the CD? Even if they had a
profit of $2/CD then they would have to sell 15 million CD's just to BREAK
EVEN. What are the odds that this CD will sell 15 million CD's
You say that MJ has sold 5 million CD's
5Million x$2/CD is $10 million. According to my math Sony has lost minimum
of 30 - 10 = $20,000,000
Would you consider this a success
If my math is incorrect perhaps someone else can run through the numbers
The average price of a CD in Canada is approx $15 Cdnfor new releases which
is approx. $9 U.S.
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Feelgoodasmillon
anyone ever said in the MJ news group and every flaming Elton John Fan had to
come over attacking MJ . If you are THAT insecure about your artist you have no
place even being in a discusion about their success.
FGM
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: "Qwel" M...@here.com
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 8:35 AM
Message-id: <3c16a1f7$0$15100$45be...@newscene.com>
kyle.
Uh, lol, SFTWC is already OFF of the Billboard Top 200. It was certified Gold
shipping 500,000. It has sold 348,000 to date.
Platinum is 1 Million unitz shipped. Double Platinum is 2m, triple is 3m & so
on.....
Not sure where you got your info from, but thought I'd let you know.
kyle.
www.kylemcmahon.com
EJFANatic
breath and realize you'll never convince us that a pedophile is the best
thing since sliced bread. But dont worry take comfort in knowing he'll go
down in HIStory, just like John Wayne Gacey did. :-)
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MJA1156
Zorry Kyle but Zongz From The Wezt Coazt iz ztill on the top 200.In fact, it iz
rebounding from Eltonz latezt TV appearances.
Oh, by the way, I think that you need a new keyboard for your computer. Your
"S" button seems to be broken
LOL
Qwel
costed that much proves mike's the king of pop.who else would get that
budget?el(lostthe)ton?
Dave
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Dave
never make that in my lifetime I could care less how many albums Elton or MJ
sell. If I like the album by either artist I will buy it. If I don't like
it I won't buy it.
"Feelgoodasmillon" <feelgood...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Karen M
<sadfadf@asdasdfcom> wrote:
> Doesn't MJ have to repay Sony the expenses before he makes money?
>
>
Yep. It's called recoupment.
Feelgoodasmillon
NOT pay sony to record, they PAY him :-)
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 11:27 AM
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Feelgoodasmillon
Only 348,000 ?? That's pathetic for a world wide legend. just awful!!! No
wonder Elton John quit.
FGM
<< Subject: Re: Why is Michael Jackson bigger than Elton John and Paul
McCartney combined?
From: ci...@aol.com (kyle.)
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2001 9:51 AM
Message-id: <20011211205105...@mb-mb.aol.com>
JackHandy
"Invincible". I don't think you even know where to begin an actual research
project. I do and I only found what I'm stating and many bad reviews to
boot. When an album is certified platinum it only means units shipped (ie,
record stores have ordered them). Michael Jackson's album is only certified
platinum in the USA but that does not reflect sales at all, nor any
statistics for the rest of the world, but the USA is the largest record
buying market. There have been at least 1 million units shipped of
"Invincible". Everywhere I go I see the shelves loaded with them, so that
means nobody's buying them anymore. Yes it entered the chart at #1 but has
since fallen to #17 in 30 days and I suspect it will fall even further in
another 30 days and maybe even cycle off the Billboard chart completely
after 90 to 120 days. The album is getting very bad reviews and basically
sucks. There were high hopes from Sony for Michael's album but it just
doesn't hold up. People are bored with the freakshow and in the back of
everyone's mind is the fact that Michael is a pedophile and he got away with
it because he is who he is. Michael lip sings when he's live so basically
you're paying to watch a video, not a concert. I have NEVER seen him perform
live with a band except for the Jackson 5. I can't even remember if they
only sing or actually play instruments.
As far as Elton's album goes, it has been certified gold, which means
500,000 units shipped in 60 days. I suspect that will increase to 1 million
units in the next 30-60 days and the album will be certified platinum in the
USA. The store I frequent started out with 50 copies Of "Songs From The West
Coast" and they have all been sold and the album is on re-order. I suspect
this is true nationwide as well. The record company has done an excellent
job of promoting the album and Elton is working his butt off touring and
doing TV appearances for his part of the promotion. Plus, Elton has his
highly successful back catalog to back him up and the public loves him. His
concerts still sell out the day the tickets go on sale, even after 30+ years
of touring in North America year after year, hundreds and possibly thousands
of live appearances just in North America alone. He is the number two
highest selling solo artist of all time with over 60 million units sold,
just in North America. I don't have an accurate online source for the rest
of the world but Elton is probably well over 300 million units sold
worldwide.
To say that Michael Jackson is bigger than Elton John or EJ and Paul
McCartney combined is just ludicrous and simply not true. As a solo artist
Michael Jackson can't even compete with his measley 6 units of product still
in production. None of Paul's or Elton's music is out of print and it all
still sells so therefore Michael Jackson doesn't even make that list. The
only thing Michael has going for him is the "Thriller" album with 26 million
units shipped, and even that is tied with The Eagles "Greatest Hits" album.
Michael is far behind the 60+ million units Elton has under his belt, and if
you combine that with Paul McCartney then we're talking in the hundreds of
millions of units shipped in North America, and if you include the Beatles
music as well for Paul then the figures are astronomical.
The only reason I can come up with on my own for you Michael Jackson
fanatics wanting a pissing contest with Elton John fans is that you realize
Michael's new album is the flop and that Elton's new album is steadily
gaining momemtum worldwide. I also suspect you're very naive and don't even
understand how the music business works and how the actual product is sold
and charts are produced and what the statistics are based on. You people put
me in a position of doing research on Michael Jackson and now I feel dirty
and violated. Everything I've stated is fact and based on research. I guess
you didn't count on Elton John fans being educated and wise people, unlike
Michael Jackson fans who appear to be naive and easily persuaded that the
Michael freak is the king of anything except pedophiles.
JackHandy
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JackHandy
as the highest selling album of all time with each at about 26 million units
shipped, but that is North America only. You haven't proved yet that
"Invincible" has sold even 1 million copies in North America, but I have
proved it's only shipped 1 million and is certified platinum, with it being
very far from multi-platinum. I can also prove that most of the ones shipped
are still sitting on store shelves, just go shopping dude!
JackHandy
"Feelgoodasmillon" <feelgood...@aol.com> wrote in message
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JackHandy
been shipped but most are still sitting on store shelves, go look for
yourself. The 1 million shipped is not sales. Michael is the one flopping
terribly on this very expensive project that he used Beatles masters as
collateral to produce. It's time for Michael to absolve his negative karma
and pay the piper.
JackHandy
"Feelgoodasmillon" <feelgood...@aol.com> wrote in message
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JackHandy
JackHandy
"Qwel" <M...@here.com> wrote in message
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Theresa
arguing with themselves.
Theresa
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JackHandy
to reason with them and state facts just doesn't sink into their small
little brains.
JackHandy
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JackHandy
Paul McCartney associated with these days?
JackHandy
"Karen M" <itsk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Iceonfire
> young man?elton likes young men
DUH! He has said that many times. Elton is a proud and out gay man.
Michael Jackson is different. He doesn't admit it. INstead, Michael
Jackson just RAPES and SEDUCES young men! He's a CHILD MOLESTOR!
You're obsessed with a child molestor! What the fuck does that say
about you???????
Karen M
feelgood...@aol.com (Feelgoodasmillon) wrote:
> Nope. MJ gets his cut from royalties on each sell. He has a contract, he does
> NOT pay sony to record, they PAY him :-)
How Record Contracts Work (very short form)
1. The Record Company fronts the money for recording and promotion.
2. The Artist pays back the Record Company, from *his share* of the income
realized by sales of the recording, the money the Record Company fronted
for recording and promotion.
3. After the Record Company recoups (that means "gets back") its front
money, anything left goes to the Artist.
Granted, some Big Artists may have agreements whereby they don't pay 100%
recoupment, but there is no major record company functioning today that
fronts 100% of the expenses and lets the artist keep 100% of the
royalties. Not Elton, not Michael, not Sting, not the Stones, not anybody.
It doesn't work that way.
Rizzo219
the EJ NG (where I post) and the MJ newsgroup. I thought at first it was the MJ
fans coming over here.
Rizzo219
Deggie
"Rizzo219" <rizz...@aol.com> wrote > MJ looks like his face was smashed in
by a brick.
Just substitute face with a** and you get Elton.
Qwel
IslandGirl
Rizzo219 wrote:
I also understand his brain dead fan's confusion with his
immortality.......it's because he looks like a freakin' ghost!!!!!!
--
THE IslandGirl...Sharon
When stars collide, like you and I...
Visit my Elton page at
http://members.home.net/islandgirlejfan
freddie
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Rizzo219
>From: "Qwel" M...@here.com
>
>well,you must know it
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JackHandy
crap just for the hell of it and so did dome others, but the MJ people did
come here first and try to belittle Elton John in front of a whole bunch of
Elton John fans. I thought their twisted posts about MJ being immortal and
shit like that was hilarious so I had to fuck with them. I think they're
just kids. I couldn't imagine an adult having such an affinity for that
mutant thing they worship.
JackHandy
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JackHandy
get too close, Qwel is a drug used to treat lice infestation.
JackHandy
"Rizzo219" <rizz...@aol.com> wrote in message
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kyle.
I meant 100. NOT good for an album released not 2 long ago.
>.In fact, it iz >rebounding from Eltonz >latezt TV appearances.
It won't make it back into the Top 100.
>Your >"S" button seems to be broken
Nope. My S is werkin just fine, thanx.
kyle.
www.kylemcmahon.com