Remastered Yellow Brick...
jam...@psu.edu
I have all of the remastered "Classic Years" Elton CDs, except for one -
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I have the Polydor release. I know the
remastered version has no bonus tracks, but was wondering if the quality
of sound is better than the original CD - meaning, is it worth buying
for the remastered sound? Just wondering if anyone has both and can
tell. Thanks.
James
LdyChocIce
In my opinion, I think Yellow Brick Road is definelty worth buying. This is his
greatest album anyway, and the remastered version just adds to the greatness. I
recommend it!
Kris
jam...@psu.edu wrote:
> I have all of the remastered "Classic Years" Elton CDs, except for one -
> Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
Believe it or not but I actually found the "Classic Years" GYBR CD at the
pawn shop for only $6. I don't know what would possess anyone to part with
such a great CD! Speaking of Elton CDs I have also found "Sleeping With The
Past", "Made In England", and "The One" at various pawn shops. There's lots
of great deals to be had out there.
> I have the Polydor release. I know the
> remastered version has no bonus tracks, but was wondering if the quality
> of sound is better than the original CD - meaning, is it worth buying
> for the remastered sound? Just wondering if anyone has both and can
> tell. Thanks.
I checked out the original Polydor release at the library and enjoyed it so
much I then bought the "Classic Years" edition and compared the two. The CY
version is just so much crisper and has such better sound it's
unbelievable. I definitely recommend you go out and buy the CY edition.
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jam...@psu.edu
> I checked out the original Polydor release at the library and enjoyed it so
> much I then bought the "Classic Years" edition and compared the two. The CY
> version is just so much crisper and has such better sound it's
> unbelievable. I definitely recommend you go out and buy the CY edition.
Thanks! Exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to hear! I think this weekend
I'll head out and pick up the Classic Years issue of GYBR. It is a great album,
and I'm glad it was improved. I'm also glad Blue Moves received a facelift, and
track addition. I think more are to follow...
James
PeteyOPMan
Does anyone have the Mobile Fidelity GOLD version of this disc? Does it
REALLY sound that much better than the cheaper version? I have a German
import of GYBR complete on 2 discs and I haven't been sure which 1disc
version to get...
Can anyone give us any info?
Thanks!!
Petey
jam...@psu.edu wrote in message <354E7258...@psu.edu>...
jam...@psu.edu
> Does anyone have the Mobile Fidelity GOLD version of this disc? Does it
> REALLY sound that much better than the cheaper version? I have a German
> import of GYBR complete on 2 discs and I haven't been sure which 1disc
> version to get...
>
> Can anyone give us any info?
2 Discs, that's odd - it fits on one. Actually, I always thought it'd be neat
to release GYBR on 2 discs to follow the scheme of "double album." I've seen a
lot of Elton gold discs, (Tumbleweed, Yellow Brick Road, Greatest Hits). I
don't know if they are any better, because regular CDs come from master sources,
too. Plus, the Classic Years version was just remastered - so it should be as
good as the Gold Disc. I think the gold disc has one difference - its gold.
But its not an official release from Rocket. I'd go with the Classic Years, but
to each is own...
JonUrban
The original US MCA CD of GBYBR was in fact on 2 discs/2 Jewel Boxes!
-:jon
jam...@psu.edu wrote in message <354F3E10...@psu.edu>...
RavnFox
>I've seen a
>lot of Elton gold discs, (Tumbleweed, Yellow Brick Road, Greatest Hits). I
>don't know if they are any better, because regular CDs come from master
>sources,
>too.
I have the Tumbleweed Connection and Honky Chateau MOFI gold releases. I'm not
convinced that the gold has anything to do with it, but they definitely sound
better. There is not nearly so much background noise and the vocals and drums
are especially crisp.
If you get a chance, give them a listen.
Dennis McGee
> I'd go with the Classic Years, but to each is own...
My favorites are the Polydor releases. As a rule I don't like the idea of
sticking on bonus tracks and messing the with the integrity of the original
releases.
Anyway, you can find most of these bonus tracks on "Rare Masters," can't you?
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jam...@psu.edu
> My favorites are the Polydor releases. As a rule I don't like the idea of
> sticking on bonus tracks and messing the with the integrity of the original
> releases.
>
> Anyway, you can find most of these bonus tracks on "Rare Masters," can't you?
Exactly. If you have Rare Masters, the bonus tracks aren't much of a bonus. But
the difference with the Rocket releases are that they are remastered. The
Polydor releases are pre-remastering. Plus, Rocket is Elton's genuine record
company. I think the remastering would've been enough - as you said, the bonus
tracks are on Rare Masters.
Fernando Noguchi
James,
I do not understand your question. If you have ALL the remastered CD's why
wouldn't you buy GYBR - surely among his very very best?
I have several versions of GYBR on CD and the remastered version does sound
better. That is to say, if you have all the others you know for sure that
they sound better and so does GYBR.
Hope this helps!
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jam...@psu.edu wrote in article <354DF24B...@psu.edu>...
> I have all of the remastered "Classic Years" Elton CDs, except for one -
> Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I have the Polydor release. I know the
> remastered version has no bonus tracks, but was wondering if the quality
> of sound is better than the original CD - meaning, is it worth buying
> for the remastered sound? Just wondering if anyone has both and can
> tell. Thanks.
>
>
>
> James
>
>
Shawn E. Channell
I thought the sound quality on GBYBR was better on the remastered version,
plus you get the whole album on one disc. I replaced my double cd with the
remastered version.
Shawn
M and M
For those who don't understand what James is asking:
The Polydor release (the one James owns) of GYBR and the "Classic Years"
release are BOTH remastered.
He wants to know, since both versions are remastered, is it worthwhile
to buy the "Classic Years" version of GYBR, when the Polydor version he
currently owns is remastered? When released as "The Classic Years", did
they improve upon the remastering that had already been done to GYBR?
I've compared both releases and don't think that there is enough of a
difference between the 2 versions to warrant buying another copy of
something you already own. I detected very little difference in sound
quality between the two. Save your money and keep the Polydor release
you already own.
Hope that helps James
scooter6fteleven
I have this.
scooter
scooter6fteleven
as his greatest fan I have all this, which everyone has mentioned, and
it sounds
fine.
scooter bolze
I, like Elton, like guys.
Billth
Hi folks,
While it is true that both the Polydor and the Rocket releases are
"remastered" there is a subtle difference in the Rocket release that
warrants purchase. I have been carefully comparing the MCA, Polydor &
Rocket releases of several of the series. Each subsequent remastering
seems to have improved the sound quality over the previous version.
While it's true that it wasn't too difficult to improve on the MCA
releases on the Polydor releases, The current releases on Rocket have a
lower noise floor and also benefit from 24 bit digital technology and
correct dithering of the digital audio. The improved clarity and lower
noise floor are indeed well worth the purchase of the Rocket releases.
HOWEVER
If you currently own a Polydor CD which you enjoy, don't expect a
HUGE improvement on the Rocket releases. It all depends on how critical
you are of audio quality. If it drives you CRAZY to hear anything but
the FINEST audio reproduction, by all means buy the Rocket remasters. If
you are listening to your CD's in a car, then you will probably not hear
any difference between the Polydor and the Rocket releases. In the case
of GBYBR, since there are no bonus tracks, you can probably get by with
the Polydor release, but remember, with the new Rocket release, you also
get new (and very valuable) liner notes as well.
I can personally appreciate the note by Gus Dudgeon regarding the
deteriorating condition of the original mixdown tapes. There was a
widely reported problem with Ampex recording tape in the late 1970's due
to a change in the tape formulation of Ampex 456 Grand Mastering tape
and Ampex 406 Mastering tape which caused a breakdown of the binder
which holds the magnetic oxide to the polyester base material. The
result was a tape which flaked oxide to the point that you could
actually see through the oxide to the backcoating. There were also
problems with the quality of 3M and Agfa tape as well so it is all the
more impressive that Gus was able to correct the dropouts and reduction
in high frequencies of the mixdown tapes. Thank heavens for digital
workstations! :)
Sorry to be long-winded here. The upshot of all this is: Enjoy your
CD's and tapes of Sir Elton. Share the joy with friends and newcomers.
Go to a concert and be thankful for all the music Elton and Bernie, and
all the band and orchestra members have created. Buy "Recover Your
Soul," and when released, "If the River Can Bend." Buy copies of the
CD's and tapes for yourself, and as gifts for friends. It's not
important that you collect every bit of memorabilia. It's important that
you enjoy the music and the wonderful man who has given SO much of
himself to us for over 30 years.
Sincerely,
Bill
P.S. The Atlanta concert on Saturday night was AWESOME!
jnro...@worldnet.att.net
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Billth
Well, ALMOST! <g>
The Polydor releases are indeed, remasters too. The term
remastering is a bit ambiguous since ANY time a new pressing stamper is
made, it requires the services of a mastering engineer, hence; it is a
re-master. It is the QUALITY of the re-mastering job that is important.
In the case of the Rocket remasters, Gus Dudgeon has treated the music
with a GREAT deal of care!
By the way, while it's true that MOST of the bonus tracks are on
the "Rare Masters" CD, Gus has remixed many of them to sound sonically
similar to the rest of the CD's he has added them to. Compare "Bad Side
of the Moon" on "Rare Masters" and the Rocket release of "Elton John"
and you will hear what I am talking about. While I generally dislike
remixes of original material ("Layla" on "Crossroads" comes to mind as
well as a so-called "improved" mix of "Crazy Little Thing Called Love"
on the CD release of Queen's "A Night at the Opera") Gus Dudgeon has
treated the re-mixes of the bonus tracks with SUCH care and reverence
that I honestly feel they are not to be missed! But don't take my word
for it. Decide for yourself! Whatever you do, ENJOY!
Sincerely,
Bill