Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Kicking a can about...

6 views
Skip to first unread message

Urgy

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 7:44:22 AM10/21/09
to
Urgy stuck his hands in his pockets in a huff and gave the can before
him the full force of his displeasure, expressed pedestrianly.
The empty metal clanged around the docks of the Citadel... apparently
the entire city of Riva had been abandoned, for all Urgy could tell.
Not a single soul - and he used the term loosely - remained to welcome
him.
Not that a Murgo - or even a half Murgo - had a right to expect a
welcome anywhere.

"Seems the party is truly over," the disconsolate High King sighed. "I
always seem to show up when there's only light beers and blue cheeses
left."

Just then it occurred to him that tin cans hadn't been invited in the
dark ages, but he blamed such obvious logical inconsistencies on
African Swallows, who were known for their strange migration habits...

"No point hanging around here then," Urgy grumped. "Might as well go
stir up trouble on FaceBook."

And with that, he strode off back to his ship...

Jayjay

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 11:19:45 AM10/21/09
to
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:44:22 -0700 (PDT), Urgy <nje...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Nothing here but the ghosts of usenet past,sorry to say :-)

--�
Jayjay

Senji

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 11:53:48 AM10/21/09
to
In article <8cc788f3-6f2e-4999...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Just then it occurred to him that tin cans hadn't been invited in the
>dark ages, but he blamed such obvious logical inconsistencies on
>African Swallows, who were known for their strange migration habits...

Tin Cans were invented remarkably early actually.

--
Jonathan D. Amery, http://www.pick.ucam.org/~jdamery/ #####
"Oh, my God," Senji said again. "Don't keep saying that, you o__#######
don't even know who your God is." "But you will Senji, and once \'#######
you have met him you will follow Him all the days of your life" - D. Eddings

krager

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 12:20:03 PM10/21/09
to
Senji wrote:

> In article
> <8cc788f3-6f2e-4999...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Just then it occurred to him that tin cans hadn't been invited in the
>>dark ages, but he blamed such obvious logical inconsistencies on
>>African Swallows, who were known for their strange migration habits...
>
> Tin Cans were invented remarkably early actually.
>

I do believe that some were found in Egyptian tombs

the apostate

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 12:39:59 PM10/21/09
to
But they hadn't been *invited* to our shores - as ane fule kno

Urgy

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 3:52:23 PM10/21/09
to
On Oct 22, 2:19 am, Jayjay <jay...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:44:22 -0700 (PDT), Urgy <nje...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nothing here but the ghosts of usenet past,sorry to say :-)
>
> -- 
> Jayjay

I'd agree, but all these wonderful people appeared out of the
woodwork :)

Hiya all!

Urgs... not a type of Vegemite.

Urgy

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 3:56:51 PM10/21/09
to
On Oct 22, 3:20 am, krager <kra...@gov.mars> wrote:
> Senji wrote:
> > In article
> > <8cc788f3-6f2e-4999-907b-63be9e245...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> > Urgy  <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>Just then it occurred to him that tin cans hadn't been invited in the
> >>dark ages, but he blamed such obvious logical inconsistencies on
> >>African Swallows, who were known for their strange migration habits...
>
> >  Tin Cans were invented remarkably early actually.
>
> I do believe that some were found in Egyptian tombs

Krags! You old bugger! You still around? And Senji!!! I'm quite
overwhelmed :)

I bet it must have really pissed the Egyptians off if they had tin
cans... given that the can opener was only invented relatively
recently. ;-p
Probably why they stuck them in their tombs... the bloody things last
for ever.
Next you'll be telling me they invented Spam :)

Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?

Urgs... the other tinned meat.

Urgy

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 3:58:53 PM10/21/09
to
On Oct 22, 3:39 am, the apostate <apost...@goodstadt.co.uk> wrote:

> krager wrote:
> > I do believe that some were found in Egyptian tombs
>
> But they hadn't been *invited* to our shores - as ane fule kno

/me ducks as high flying idea shoots directly overhead...

Nup - sorry Apopy - no idea what you're talking about.
Hi there though :)

Urgs...frequently clueless.

Simon Challands

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 6:04:14 PM10/21/09
to
In message <f8ba7d26-02f8-4c41...@z4g2000prh.googlegrou
ps.com>
Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 22, 2:19�am, Jayjay <jay...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:44:22 -0700 (PDT), Urgy <nje...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing here but the ghosts of usenet past,sorry to say :-)
>>
>> --�
>> Jayjay

> I'd agree, but all these wonderful people appeared out of the
> woodwork :)

That's surprising, since I thought the woodwork had fossilised long
ago.

--
Simon Challands (once Simon II)

Senji

unread,
Oct 21, 2009, 6:54:42 PM10/21/09
to
In article <dd6d4e3d-8692-4aa5...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?

Nothing much. Life.

--
Jonathan D. Amery, http://senji.livejournal.com/ #####
"Torak's just a myth--something the Angaraks dreamed up." o__#######
"Tell that to him," Beldin said pointing at Garion. \'#######
Senji swallowed hard, staring at Garion, "Did you really--I mean--?" - SoD

krager

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 3:18:33 AM10/22/09
to
Urgy wrote:

> Krags! You old bugger! You still around? And Senji!!! I'm quite
> overwhelmed :)

Actually, first time I checked this for a few months, been busy doing
another Masters.

Must be serendipity.

Jayjay

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 5:10:06 AM10/22/09
to
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Urgy <nje...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Nothing here but the ghosts of usenet past,sorry to say :-)
>>
>> --�
>> Jayjay
>
>I'd agree, but all these wonderful people appeared out of the
>woodwork :)
>
>Hiya all!
>
>Urgs... not a type of Vegemite.

Wow,there may be hope for the world yet. I thought everybody had gone
Web 2.0 by now :-)

--�
Jayjay

the apostate

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 11:30:18 AM10/22/09
to
Senji wrote:
> In article <dd6d4e3d-8692-4aa5...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>
> Nothing much. Life.
>
nope - rings no bells that. Off to twitter to find out the meaning :)

MartinCarpenter

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 2:18:43 PM10/22/09
to
On 21 Oct, 23:54, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
> In article <dd6d4e3d-8692-4aa5-abc6-bd0a2aeed...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

>
> Urgy  <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>
>  Nothing much.  Life.

Well I guess September finally finished a bit ago :)

Otherwise yes, not a lot.
--
Vard

Teut

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 5:16:21 PM10/22/09
to
Urgy wrote:

>
> I bet it must have really pissed the Egyptians off if they had tin
> cans... given that the can opener was only invented relatively
> recently. ;-p

Actually (interesting fact time), food was stored in tins almost 100
years before the invention of the tin opener, and were opened with
whatever tools were handy.

--
Teut

Simon Challands

unread,
Oct 22, 2009, 6:29:51 PM10/22/09
to
In message <FY3Em.75494$877....@newsfe16.ams2>
Teut <te...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Urgy wrote:

It also had the nasty problem of the cans being sealed with lead
solder. It certainly didn't help Franklin's North West Passage
expedition.

--
Simon Challands

Senji

unread,
Oct 23, 2009, 9:32:56 AM10/23/09
to
In article <120de23a-0836-4279...@e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

MartinCarpenter <Martin.C...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>On 21 Oct, 23:54, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
>> In article <dd6d4e3d-8692-4aa5-abc6-bd0a2aeed...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.=
>com>,

>>
>> Urgy =A0<nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>>
>> =A0Nothing much. =A0Life.

>
>Well I guess September finally finished a bit ago :)

I hear we're on the 1000-and-somethingth day of the October of Google
Groups.

Ghworg

unread,
Oct 23, 2009, 9:00:49 AM10/23/09
to
Jayjay wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Urgy <nje...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Nothing here but the ghosts of usenet past,sorry to say :-)
>>

>>I'd agree, but all these wonderful people appeared out of the
>>woodwork :)
>

> Wow,there may be hope for the world yet. I thought everybody had gone
> Web 2.0 by now :-)

Bah, they can take my usenet from my cold dead hands.

Though I admit I only still follow two genuine usenet newsgroups (including
this one), the rest are mailing lists piped through gmane and private
servers.

krager

unread,
Oct 27, 2009, 3:15:53 PM10/27/09
to
Simon Challands wrote:

>
> It also had the nasty problem of the cans being sealed with lead
> solder. It certainly didn't help Franklin's North West Passage
> expedition.

Also lead soldering led to and outbreak of Typhoid in Scotland in the 1950s
or 60s. Catering sized tins of Corned beef produced in South America were
cooled in the river. Insufficient solder joint allowed ingress of the river
water, where it infected the corned beef. That tin got opened and was sold,
quite a large outbreak ensued.

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:39:03 AM10/28/09
to

Great minds an' all that :)
Or possibly just concurrent dementia :)

Either way, damn lucky!

Hope the weather's nice over there - it's been a bugger down here...

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:41:56 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 23, 2:30 am, the apostate <apost...@goodstadt.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>
> >  Nothing much.  Life.
>
> nope - rings no bells that. Off to twitter to find out the meaning :)

LOL - dat's funnzy :)
The idea of any idea penetrating the Twit-o-sphere is itself
hilarious.
Having said that I must admit to tragic FB infection... I'm taking
medication so I'm down to one status post a week at this point :)

Urgy... Off His FaceBook... ;)

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:44:51 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 23, 5:18 am, MartinCarpenter

<Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>
> >  Nothing much.  Life.
>
> Well I guess September finally finished a bit ago :)
>
> Otherwise yes, not a lot.
> --
> Vard

September? Oh - Geelong won the Grand Final again... lots of people in
St Kilda feel like the world ended around about then.
Not that I'm big on football at all...

Unless you're referring to something else of course - I couldn't
possibly imagine what ;-p

Urgy... suspicious of any sport that requires ball handling skills...

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:47:43 AM10/28/09
to

LOL! Tooty!! Long time no honk :)
I imagine there were a lot of frustrated people with blunt knives
around... actually that sorta explains the American Revolution,
doesn't it? :)

Urgy... frequently blunt... not good for the career, mind you...

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:50:46 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 23, 9:29 am, Simon Challands <simon_use...@helvellyn.plus.com>
wrote:

> It also had the nasty problem of the cans being sealed with lead
> solder. It certainly didn't help Franklin's North West Passage
> expedition.
>
> --
> Simon Challands

Ooo... lots of heavy metal in their diet. I bet they died of severe
case of Iron Maiden... ;-p

Urgy... wishing for the 666th time he knew where his old Iron Maiden
tapes were...

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:53:10 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 24, 12:32 am, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
> In article <120de23a-0836-4279-a247-4542e7974...@e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

>
> MartinCarpenter  <Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >On 21 Oct, 23:54, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:

> >Well I guess September finally finished a bit ago :)
>
>  I hear we're on the 1000-and-somethingth day of the October of Google
> Groups.

Silly - there's only 31 days in October :)
Unless Google bought it and crammed a few extra days in...

Urgy... frequently confused... and willing to share :)

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:57:12 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 22, 9:04 am, Simon Challands <simon_use...@helvellyn.plus.com>
wrote:

> That's surprising, since I thought the woodwork had fossilised long


> ago.
>
> --
> Simon Challands (once Simon II)

Oi! Not fossilised yet... got at least a couple of years before I hit
40 :)
Krags on the other hand.... ;-p

Urgy.. confused by the regression from Simon II to Simon singular...
probably some cloning issue :)

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 7:59:34 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 24, 12:00 am, Ghworg <s...@trollgod.org.uk> wrote:

> Bah, they can take my usenet from my cold dead hands.
>
> Though I admit I only still follow two genuine usenet newsgroups (including
> this one), the rest are mailing lists piped through gmane and private
> servers.

So Ghworgy, you're telling us you're undead then are you? :)
Must admit I gave up on usenet years ago... just visit here from time
to time to see if anyone's around.
Looks like I got lucky this time!

Urgs... don't stop me now :)

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 8:04:17 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 28, 6:15 am, krager <kra...@gov.mars> wrote:

> Also lead soldering led to and outbreak of Typhoid in Scotland in the 1950s
> or 60s.  Catering sized tins of Corned beef produced in South America were
> cooled in the river.  Insufficient solder joint allowed ingress of the river
> water, where it infected the corned beef.  That tin got opened and was sold,
> quite a large outbreak ensued.

Yuck! They obviously shoulda deep fried it ona stick... it'd still
kill ya, but not via Typhoid at least :)

Urgy... reverting to CMOT Dibbler worship...

Urgy

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 8:44:45 AM10/28/09
to
On Oct 22, 6:18 pm, krager <kra...@gov.mars> wrote:

> Actually, first time I checked this for a few months, been busy doing
> another Masters.  

*Double-take*
Wassat? ANOTHER Masters? Geez Krags, you're worse than me... at least
I gave up with the Postgraduate Diplomas!

So spill - whatcha studyin, and wheres ya up to?

Urgs.. not a Master... not even an apprentice :)

MartinCarpenter

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 3:24:43 PM10/28/09
to
On 23 Oct, 13:32, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
> In article <120de23a-0836-4279-a247-4542e7974...@e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

>
> MartinCarpenter  <Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >On 21 Oct, 23:54, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
> >> In article <dd6d4e3d-8692-4aa5-abc6-bd0a2aeed...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.=
> >com>,
>
> >> Urgy =<nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Great to hear from you guys - what's been going on?
>
> >> Nothing much. Life.

>
> >Well I guess September finally finished a bit ago :)
>
>  I hear we're on the 1000-and-somethingth day of the October of Google
> Groups.

Somewhat less downright annoying than AOL was back in the day though.
Unless it posts this using html or something, in which case I may have
to commit ritual suicide.

My otherwise reasonable ISP (demon) doesn't have a usenet server on
its standard account (a real sign of the times that) and the free one
I'm using only does reading. I hardly post nowadays anyway - I'd
rather poke my eyes out than use a web interface to read news of
course.

Somewhere along the line we also seemed to lose the fight against top
quoting/html e-mail etc. Oh well.

September = traditional start of UK university term. Once upon a time
that meant something in usenet terms. Then one year (also quite
distant now!) it stopped doing so ;)
--
Vard

Simon Challands

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 6:12:28 PM10/28/09
to
In message <4f23bb0f-891a-4c44...@x6g2000prc.googlegrou
ps.com>
Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 22, 9:04�am, Simon Challands <simon_use...@helvellyn.plus.com>
> wrote:

>> That's surprising, since I thought the woodwork had fossilised long
>> ago.

> Oi! Not fossilised yet... got at least a couple of years before I hit


> 40 :)
> Krags on the other hand.... ;-p

> Urgy.. confused by the regression from Simon II to Simon singular...
> probably some cloning issue :)

No, just a case of fading away. Must be old age, don'tyknow?

--
Simon Challands

Senji

unread,
Oct 28, 2009, 10:32:03 PM10/28/09
to
In article <fb01b134-192f-4d49...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,

MartinCarpenter <Martin.C...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>My otherwise reasonable ISP (demon) doesn't have a usenet server on
>its standard account (a real sign of the times that) and the free one
>I'm using only does reading. I hardly post nowadays anyway - I'd
>rather poke my eyes out than use a web interface to read news of
>course.

That is almost certainly a soluable problem with the right
resources....

--
Jonathan Amery.
##### The world is collapsing around our ears
#######__o I turned up the radio, but I can't hear it.
#######'/ - REM, Radio Song

Ghworg

unread,
Oct 29, 2009, 1:49:00 AM10/29/09
to
Urgy wrote:

> On Oct 24, 12:00 am, Ghworg <s...@trollgod.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bah, they can take my usenet from my cold dead hands.
>>
>> Though I admit I only still follow two genuine usenet newsgroups
>> (including this one), the rest are mailing lists piped through gmane and
>> private servers.
>
> So Ghworgy, you're telling us you're undead then are you? :)

Absolutely not, and my desire for braaaaainz is entirely coincidental.

Urgy

unread,
Nov 3, 2009, 9:59:21 PM11/3/09
to
On Oct 29, 6:24 am, MartinCarpenter

<Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> I'd
> rather poke my eyes out than use a web interface to read news of
> course.
Ouch! Seems rather drastic Vardy!
I gave in to Google Groups some time ago - All Our Bases Are Belong To
Google anyway, and Resistance is Futile :)

> Somewhere along the line we also seemed to lose the fight against top
> quoting/html e-mail etc. Oh well.

Sheeese, it's like being the only Roundhead at Cavaliers party in
here....

> September = traditional start of UK university term. Once upon a time
> that meant something in usenet terms. Then one year (also quite
> distant now!) it stopped doing so ;)
> --
> Vard

I'm pretty sure it was less than a decade ago... and that's not long
in my books ;)

Urgy... an old fart, admittedly...

Urgy

unread,
Nov 3, 2009, 10:01:00 PM11/3/09
to
On Oct 29, 9:12 am, Simon Challands <simon_use...@helvellyn.plus.com>
wrote:
> In message <4f23bb0f-891a-4c44-a5d6-43020ad10...@x6g2000prc.googlegrou
> ps.com>

> > Urgy.. confused by the regression from Simon II to Simon singular...
> > probably some cloning issue :)
>
> No, just a case of fading away. Must be old age, don'tyknow?
>

The original Benjamin Button, it seems ;)

Urgy... who's only regressing mentally :)

Urgy

unread,
Nov 3, 2009, 10:09:59 PM11/3/09
to
On Oct 29, 4:49 pm, Ghworg <s...@trollgod.org.uk> wrote:

> > So Ghworgy, you're telling us you're undead then are you? :)
>
> Absolutely not, and my desire for braaaaainz is entirely coincidental.

Oooo - now there's an idea... what if Eddings had done a Zombie
apocalyse Quitilogy :)
The Aaaaaarghariad, first novel being "Pawn of the Dead"!

This has possibilities... although frankly the idea of Ce'Nedra
cracking skulls and eating brains isn't much of a stretch ;)

Urgy... feeling much like Ed in "Shaun of the Dead" :)

Senji

unread,
Nov 4, 2009, 9:49:42 AM11/4/09
to
In article <38ce4850-88dc-470b...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,

Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sheeese, it's like being the only Roundhead at Cavaliers party in
>here....

With my curernt hair length and a bit of styling I might be able to
do "Cavalier".

>> September =3D traditional start of UK university term. Once upon a time


>> that meant something in usenet terms. Then one year (also quite
>> distant now!) it stopped doing so ;)

>I'm pretty sure it was less than a decade ago... and that's not long
>in my books ;)

1993.

MartinCarpenter

unread,
Nov 4, 2009, 2:08:38 PM11/4/09
to
On 29 Oct, 02:32, Senji <se...@poboxes.com> wrote:
> In article <fb01b134-192f-4d49-823e-6ac29fdd7...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,

>
> MartinCarpenter  <Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >My otherwise reasonable ISP (demon) doesn't have a usenet server on
> >its standard account (a real sign of the times that) and the free one
> >I'm using only does reading. I hardly post nowadays anyway - I'd
> >rather poke my eyes out than use a web interface to read news of
> >course.
>
>  That is almost certainly a soluable problem with the right
> resources....

I'm sure :) I suppose I simply don't care enough - I only ever really
posted here and its been hugely quiet of course. Impressed that so
many still seem to be lurking around actually.
--
Vard

MartinCarpenter

unread,
Nov 4, 2009, 2:12:13 PM11/4/09
to
On 4 Nov, 02:59, Urgy <nje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 6:24 am, MartinCarpenter<Martin.Carpen...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > I'd
> > rather poke my eyes out than use a web interface to read news of
> > course.
>
> Ouch! Seems rather drastic Vardy!
> I gave in to Google Groups some time ago - All Our Bases Are Belong To
> Google anyway, and Resistance is Futile :)

Oh it is that yes :) For the moment they still seem to be relatively
kind despots.

I guess it just annoys me to see solutions to problems like organising
long threads of information etc which have been thoroughly solved in
the 'distant' past being forgotten :)

Amazing how something not so old can contrive to make us almost
nostalgic....
--
Vard

0 new messages