Belgariad: The Movie
Melanie A. Miller
we've been playing games with who should be cast if the stories
were ever turned into a movie (or series thereof). Personally,
there are only two people I'd really vote for, castingwise: Sean
Connery would make a really interesting Belgarath, and (don't
laugh, please--my ego bruises easily) Rowan Atkinson as Silk.
Think about it--anybody who can manage the acrobatics he performs
in "Mr. Bean" could definitely pull off Silk's defensive style.
Besides, the facial description is too close to miss.
But what about Garion and the rest? Angelica Houston would be a
possibility for Polgara, and I like the idea of Clancy Brown
(Viktor in "The Bride" and the evil immortal in "Highlander") as
Barak, but for the life of me I can't think of anybody who could do
justice to Belgarion. If you could combine Christian Slater's
looks, Cary Elwes' manner, and Kirk Cameron's lack of
self-consciousness, you'd have a good Garion. I think they'd have
to go with an unknown for this one.
And if anybody suggests Molly Ringwald as Ce'Nedra, I'll scream.
MAM
JON THUMIM
description of the adult Garion.
I agree with the casting of everyone. I really don't think Molly
Ringwald would make a good Ce'Nedra. Who else is a young redhead?
Peace.
Jon
Mogwai
>But what about Garion and the rest? Angelica Houston would be a
>possibility for Polgara, and I like the idea of Clancy Brown
>(Viktor in "The Bride" and the evil immortal in "Highlander") as
>Barak, but for the life of me I can't think of anybody who could do
>justice to Belgarion. If you could combine Christian Slater's
>looks, Cary Elwes' manner, and Kirk Cameron's lack of
>self-consciousness, you'd have a good Garion. I think they'd have
>to go with an unknown for this one.
>
My first thought was Slater for Garion, but then, the light bulb went
off.
Keannu Reeves
He would be awesome.
>And if anybody suggests Molly Ringwald as Ce'Nedra, I'll scream.
>
I have to go, but I will think of a Ce'Nedra
>MAM
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>MAM
I have thought a little bit, not much, but a little,
I would say Nicole Kidman, she'd seem to be able to play the hellcat
role, but I think that she would have to cut off about half of her legs
because she is just way too tall (for this role, otherwise, I like her
just fine)
The Mogster
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
Silk:
Harrison Ford!!!
Scott
Bharathi Jagadeesh
>
> In article <1992May19.1...@midway.uchicago.edu> km...@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >
> >And if anybody suggests Molly Ringwald as Ce'Nedra, I'll scream.
> >
> >MAM
>
>
> I have thought a little bit, not much, but a little,
>
> I would say Nicole Kidman, she'd seem to be able to play the hellcat
> role, but I think that she would have to cut off about half of her legs
> because she is just way too tall (for this role, otherwise, I like her
> just fine)
Nicole Kidman is too tall. It has to be a petite, young, willowy
child-woman. I'd suggest Winona Ryder, but I don't know how she'd look as a
redhead.
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I a spoilsport, or what? :-) )
scott eric cantor
I couldn't believe it when I saw this newsgroup! I don't have much time for
reading news much at the moment, but for this I'd make time.
I can't get enough of the Bel/Mal books (I'm on about the 6th reading).
My friends and I have occasionally talked about movie roles as well,
although there was never much consensus.
Personally I always thought Barnard Hughes would make a perfect Belgarath.
If you know who he is, (he's been in a lot of character roles over the years)
I think you'd agree with me. He has the age, and the beard, and he always
seems to come off as very amusing and very serious at the same time. The
perfect combination, I think.
We thought of Slater for Garion also, and Anjelica Huston as Polgara.
Nicole Kidman is definitely too tall for Ce'Nedra, and I think too
mature in nature as well. I could see Winona Ryder, but other than that...
Hope to see a lot of posts from my fellow fans!
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Belgarath....As for Angelica Huston as Polgara...think again....
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Ce'Nedra.... Hmmmm.
All right, I'll display my mind like a steel sieve! Who was the person
who played Ophilia in Gibson's _Hamlet_? Dye her hair red, and I think
she could manage the "little girl who's gonna live a loooooong time" bit
that a dryad would have.
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Melanie A. Miller
WHAT? Have you become completely deranged? Silk is relatively
short, with black hair, a scraggly beard that is occasionally
trimmed into a short, elegant one, has a long, pointed nose which
is often compared to that of a rat or a weasel, and has eyes that
are constantly dancing with cunning little twinkles. Harrison is
tall, with brown hair, has a cute little nose that has rightfully
earned him the title of "Intelligent Heartthrob," and looks NOTHING
LIKE THE DESCRIPTION OF SILK. Besides which, he can't play cunning
the way the character is written. Now, he might make a good Brand,
or even Durnik (althought that might be a stretch, too), but there
is no flipping way that Harrison Ford could do Silk.
IMHO, of course.
MAM
Phillip Wade Yarrington
I was going to suggest her as the perfect Ce'Nedra. Didn't she
have red hair in Edward Scissorhands?
-phil
Kristen Kohlbecker
How about this?
Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
Polgara: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
Taur Urgas: (Villain from Robin Hood and Die Hard)
Rhodar: Danny DeVito
Ran Borune: Tim Curry
Ce'Nedra: Nicole Kidman (I'm sure she could be made to look small)
Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly
Barak: Brian Dennehy or Kurt Russell
Silk: Christian Slater (he makes a great smartass)
Urgit: River Phoenix (so he would look something like Silk)
Brand: Alec Baldwin
Adara: Jami Gertz
Well that's all for now...I know Urgit isn't in the first series, but with
the way moviemakers fiddle with storylines, why not throw him in?
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> In article <1992May20....@cs.unca.edu> mcm...@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>>There's only one person in the world who could play
>>Silk:
>>
>>Harrison Ford!!!
>>
>>Scott
>
> How about this?
>
> Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
> Polgara: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
> Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
> Taur Urgas: (Villain from Robin Hood and Die Hard)
> Rhodar: Danny DeVito
> Ran Borune: Tim Curry
> Ce'Nedra: Nicole Kidman (I'm sure she could be made to look small)
> Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly
> Barak: Brian Dennehy or Kurt Russell
> Silk: Christian Slater (he makes a great smartass)
> Urgit: River Phoenix (so he would look something like Silk)
> Brand: Alec Baldwin
> Adara: Jami Gertz
>
> Well that's all for now...I know Urgit isn't in the first series, but with
> the way moviemakers fiddle with storylines, why not throw him in?
>
playing, but at least you didn't suggest something silly like Harrison Ford
doing Silk (I don't know how anyone thought of that.) Interestingly enough,
the casting you give bears a remarkable resemblance to the _Lord of the Rings_
Casting suggested by several people in rec.arts.movies. Personally, I don't
wilch to see any of my favorite books ruined in a movie that stars Jennifer
Connelly, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, and Macauley Culkin. Lets all be a
litte more original. As a general rule it is always more interesting to go
against type casting and give parts to people who have never done anything
similar (You get better acting and more interest that way.)
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: In article <1992May20....@cs.unca.edu> mcm...@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
: >There's only one person in the world who could play
: >Silk:
: >
: >Harrison Ford!!!
: WHAT? Have you become completely deranged?
Possibly, but what does that have to do with this? :)
: Now, he might make a good Brand,
: or even Durnik (althought that might be a stretch, too), but there
: is no flipping way that Harrison Ford could do Silk.
I don't think he would be right for either of those characters.
I'm thinking of the guy who played Han Solo -- who's a very similar
character to Silk. I think Ford could pull it off, or at least
he could a decade ago. He's the one I've always cast myself as Silk
mentally. And it works in my head, but then I'm probably deranged :)
: IMHO, of course.
Your HO notwithstanding, I'll stick with Ford.
Scott
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
No, I don't think so!
Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
: Polgara: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Yeah, that would be good!
: Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
Hell no! Never! Over my dead body!
: Taur Urgas: (Villain from Robin Hood and Die Hard)
: Rhodar: Danny DeVito
Hell no!
: Ran Borune: Tim Curry
Who? Don't know him...but Ce'Nedra's uncle Veranda (can't remember
his name)....
Patric stewart! He'd be *perfect*! remember him in Gurney Hallec's
uniform in Dune?
: Ce'Nedra: Nicole Kidman (I'm sure she could be made to look small)
Hell no. :) I don't like her. :)
: Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly
Funny, I was thinking Michelle Pfifer -- I don't know who Connoly is...
: Barak: Brian Dennehy or Kurt Russell
I was thinking a weight lifter or a wrestler...
Superstar Billy Graham with a wig or something.
: Silk: Christian Slater (he makes a great smartass)
Silk is a smartass without being a smartass... This would not work.
: Urgit: River Phoenix (so he would look something like Silk)
Over my dead body again. No way.
: Brand: Alec Baldwin
: Adara: Jami Gertz
She'd be hard to cast....All the algars ought to be sort of Native
American or Middle Eastern looking...
: A Tyger and a Lady
So no matter which door you choose, you loose? :^: :^)
Scott
Michael Rosenberg
have to go with Sir Alec Guiness. Can anyone deny that Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi
isn't basically the same character as Belgarath. Actually, I've never really
thought about this before, but there are a lot of parallels between the
stories. More than I would have imagined. Of course, no one ever claimed the
stories were particularly original :)
Maybe this is why someone kept thinking of Harrison Ford as Silk (A truly
awful notion when you think of it).
Other ideas for characters:
Beldin: Danny DeVito (he would certainly be better here than as Rhodar)
Anheg: The guy who played Robbin's father in Costner's Robbin Hood (I can't
remember his name for the life of me...Bruce something???)
Toth: Schwarzneger (he wouldn't have to speak...it'd be perfect)
Silk: Mandy Patnik (Patinik???) "My name is Indigo Montoya..."
Garion: You have to go with an unknown here. It's almost required.
--Mike
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david e myers
>ty...@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:
>
>: Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
>
>No, I don't think so!
>Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
>
I kind of imagined George Carlin here. He has the look AND the attitude.
But Connery or Guiness would work.
>
>: Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
>
>Hell no! Never! Over my dead body!
>
We could cast Culkin as Eriond so we wouldn't have to listen to him for
most of the movie :-)
>: Silk: Christian Slater (he makes a great smartass)
>
>Silk is a smartass without being a smartass... This would not work.
>
I think Tom Skeritt (sp?), the commander from Top Gun, would fit. Except
for his height. I think he could do the part justice, tho.
>Scott
>
Dave Myers
Tim Meekins
How about that girl from Uncle Buck as Ce'nedra?? She would fit the role
perfectly....unfortunately I think she's a tad too young for the role, unless
there's a young-, old- role for the characters...
-tim
Kristen Kohlbecker
>In article <rdwk8t#.ty...@netcom.com>, ty...@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:
>>
>>
>> Polgara: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
>> Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
>> Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly
>>
>> the way moviemakers fiddle with storylines, why not throw him in?
>>
> Well, everybody is just a tad too young for the characters we have them
>playing, but at least you didn't suggest something silly like Harrison Ford
>doing Silk (I don't know how anyone thought of that.) Interestingly enough,
>the casting you give bears a remarkable resemblance to the _Lord of the Rings_
>Casting suggested by several people in rec.arts.movies. Personally, I don't
>wilch to see any of my favorite books ruined in a movie that stars Jennifer
>Connelly, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, and Macauley Culkin. Lets all be a
>litte more original. As a general rule it is always more interesting to go
>against type casting and give parts to people who have never done anything
>similar (You get better acting and more interest that way.)
Okay, how about these revisions/additions?
Polgara:
Ce'Nedra: Bernadette Peters
Salmissra: Cher (have to agree there...good call)
Garion: Please-God-*anyone*-but-Macauley Culkin
(I sure as heck don't *like* him, but you know that would be some bigwig's
first choice...ick..:P)
Mandorallen: Mel Gibson (he'd need beefing up though)
Porenn: Carrie Fisher
Vella: Madonna
Durnik: Bob Hoskins
Zubrette: Can't recall the name (from Curly Sue)
Cho-Hag: Jack Palance
Hettar: Vocalist, Red Hot Chili Peppers
Torak: Jeff Goldblum
UL: Derek Jacobi
Relg: Joe Pesci
Taiba: Connie Selleca
Ctuchik: Robert DeNiro
Zedar: Sting
Okay, now that i've gotten that out of my system...:)
Melanie A. Miller
Belgarath: Sean Connery
Polgara: Angelica Houston;
Emma Thompson
Garion: River Phoenix
Ce'Nedra: Drew Barrymore;
Helena Bonham-Carter
Durnik: Brian Dennehy;
Kenneth Branaugh
Silk: Rowan Atkinson
Barak: Clancy Brown
Hettar: Charlie Sheen
Mandorallin: Lancelot from "Excalibur"
Beldin: Bob Hoskins
Rhodar: Paul Prudhomme (The Cajun Chef)
Porenn: Michelle Pfeiffer
Cho-Hag: Graham Greene
Adara: Girl from "Dances with Wolves"
Anheg: Brian Blessed
Ran Borune: William Hickey
Varana: Patrick Stewart
Brand: Charlton Heston
Korodullin: Kyle McLachlan
Mayaserana: Mia Sara
Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly;
Amanda Donohoe (typecasting!)
Kal Zakath: Derek Jacobi;
Tim Curry
Torak: Chris Sarandon;
Sam Neill
Zedar (Belzedar): Patrick McGoohan
Agachak: Alan Rickman
Grolim Sorcerer who
Tracks Garion: Michael Nouri
Velvet: Miranda Richardson;
Annette Bening
Poledra: Faye Dunaway
Taiba: Valerie Golino
Gorim: Alec Guinness
Relg: Adam Arkin
Errand/Eriond: MacCauley Culkin (god forgive me)
John from "Terminator 2"
For the life of me, I can't come up with anybody for
Cyradis, Zandramas, the Sendar King, Lelldorin, and other bit
parts. Any suggestions?
MAM
A Casting Director In Her Own Mind
Kristen Kohlbecker
>ty...@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:
>
>: Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
>
>No, I don't think so!
>Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
Connery is too neat and dignfied...can you *really* see him in mismatched hose
getting drunk at any available opportunity?
>: Polgara: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
>
>Yeah, that would be good!
>
>: Garion: (You know this would go to the Culkin brat, don't you?)
>
>Hell no! Never! Over my dead body!
Well, given the way he screwed himself by playing hardball over his next pic for
WB, he might even be reasonbly priced now that he's been humbled...I'd rather
see even Ricky Schroeder in this role before Culkin, though...:P
>: Taur Urgas: (Villain from Robin Hood and Die Hard)
>: Rhodar: Danny DeVito
>
>Hell no!
Which? Both? Also why?
>: Ran Borune: Tim Curry
>
>Who? Don't know him...but Ce'Nedra's uncle Veranda (can't remember
>his name)....
That's Varana! Jeez, and you people call yourselves Edding afficionados!
Tim Curry has been in a bunch of things including Rocky Horror, Oscar, and
Passed Away.
>Patric stewart! He'd be *perfect*! remember him in Gurney Hallec's
>uniform in Dune?
Missed that one....
>: Ce'Nedra: Nicole Kidman (I'm sure she could be made to look small)
>
>Hell no. :) I don't like her. :)
Me neither really, but she's better that Molly Ringwald any day.
>: Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly
>
>Funny, I was thinking Michelle Pfifer -- I don't know who Connoly is...
Well, people have suggested Cher, and i think that's a better bet anyway...:)
>: Barak: Brian Dennehy or Kurt Russell
>
>I was thinking a weight lifter or a wrestler...
I was merely thinking of big men who were actors...besides, after Backdraft, I
think Russell is built enough for the role...but who would play the bear? :)
>Superstar Billy Graham with a wig or something.
Why not get someone who can at least *act*?
>: Silk: Christian Slater (he makes a great smartass)
>
>Silk is a smartass without being a smartass... This would not work.
Say what? I think Slater's personality would mesh well with that of Silk.
>: Urgit: River Phoenix (so he would look something like Silk)
>
>Over my dead body again. No way.
Well in that case, I was talking looks more than any other trait. River looks
pretty close to Christian, both in body and face.
>: Brand: Alec Baldwin
>: Adara: Jami Gertz
>
>She'd be hard to cast....All the algars ought to be sort of Native
>American or Middle Eastern looking...
Perhaps, but there aren't many Middle Eastern women out there currently that
I know of...are you saying this should be one of the roles that goes to an
unknown?
>: A Tyger and a Lady
>
>So no matter which door you choose, you loose? :^: :^)
yeahright...you get both in one compact package! No losers yet...;)
>Scott
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: Okay, how about these revisions/additions?
: Mandorallen: Mel Gibson (he'd need beefing up though)
: Zedar: Sting
I was going to suggest Sting as Mandorallen! (With armor, you couldn't
tell much about his physique) Sting's been a bad guy in everything...
he needs to be a good guy just once :)
And -- I think he'd be perfect. You'd need someone with a British
accent, at any rate. Mel might be able to pull it off (look at Hamlet!),
but... he doesn't look particularly noble.
Speaking of hamlet, what about the guy who played Polonius as one of
the deciples, or Aldur himself?
Scott
todd simpkins
Perhaps Timothy Dalton? (he's a little tall tho...)
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David Emery
radical and possibly PC, too. Consider if we make Mandorallen, et.al
(I forget the 'country name' right off the top of my head) -black-.
I'd propose Danny Glover for Mandorallen. It would be an interesting
wrinkle...
dave
Ed Lee
>And if anybody suggests Molly Ringwald as Ce'Nedra, I'll scream.
How about Megan Follows (from Anne of Green Gables). And if
one knows about "Anne with an 'e'", one will know she'll be
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Halim F. Aljibury
long blond hair? While more middle easterners have light-colored hair than
you might think, I doubt that's what you had in mind... ;)
And why should Algars be different-looking than Rivans, Chereks or Drasnians...
They're all Alorns after all.....
-Me...@dartmouth.edu-
Tanya Olsen
>>: Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
>>
>>No, I don't think so!
>>Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
>
> Connery is too neat and dignfied...can you *really* see him in mismatched hose
> getting drunk at any available opportunity?
Actually, I saw Sean Connery in a movie (maybe his first role) with Glen Ford
that came out in the late 50's (I think). All he did for the whole movie was
play the drunken sailor, so I think he'd be up to it, besides talk about a
difference in character between James Bond and Henry Jones, Sr. (Indiana Jones
and the Last Crusade); I think he can act. You'd need someone who can be
dignified for those certain moments when Belgarath isn't drunk and is serious
about what he's doing!
Tanya Olsen
Kristen Kohlbecker
Definitely an interesting wrinkle, but I think that if any of the races should
be black, it should be the Thulls, Nadraks, Murgos, or...oh *wait*! Make the
Nyissans black! Exotic....okay, so...assuming that the Nyissans are
black-skinned, how about this cast
Salmissra: Vanessa Williams
Sadi: Al Jarreau
Issus: Ice-T
Adus: Wesley Snipes
Now I'm sure there is someone I'm forgetting...dig in, guys!
> dave
Melanie A. Miller
>Speaking of hamlet, what about the guy who played Polonius as one of
>the deciples, or Aldur himself?
>
>Scott
>
>
UL. I'm positively KICKING myself! This man is one of the best
actors alive today, one of my personal favorites, and to think I
left him out of the casting. . .
Maybe even, dare I say it. . .Beldin? If you've ever seen "Alien"
or "The Homecoming," you can tell that he has a mouth on him when
he wants to.
MAM
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: >Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
:
: Connery is too neat and dignfied...can you *really* see him in mismatched hose
: getting drunk at any available opportunity?
Yeah, I think he could. Really acting...
: >: Rhodar: Danny DeVito
: >
: >Hell no!
:
: Which? Both? Also why?
Danny Devito -- I just hate him, that's all. :)
: Missed that one....
Patric Stewart would be perfect, trust me.
: Me neither really, but she's better that Molly Ringwald any day.
Fungus would be better than Ringwald, but... :)
: Well, people have suggested Cher, and i think that's a better bet anyway...:)
Yeah, but I *loathe* Cher...
: Why not get someone who can at least *act*?
Big, tough guys who can also act? you don't want much, huh?
: >Silk is a smartass without being a smartass... This would not work.
:
: Say what? I think Slater's personality would mesh well with that of Silk.
He's a smartass, but he does it in a way that makes it okay, and even
funny. Ordinarily, pushing someone to his death over a high wall
wouldn't be nice, and is definitely murder, but with Silk you forgive
him and want to laugh.
: Perhaps, but there aren't many Middle Eastern women out there currently that
: I know of...are you saying this should be one of the roles that goes to an
: unknown?
Any dark haired, dark eyed actress... whatever happened to Robin Curtis,
anyway? Did she drop dead or something? She'd be good as Polgara (I
cast her a P. when I first read the book, but later discarded that).
Scott
Terrelle Shaw
I mean really now...
I think Durnik would be Black because he is from the Southern part of Drasia in fact i would think that most of the people from the southern part
of the areas would be somewhat dark... Im not calling everyone dark, but i know
Hettar would be perfect dark or even Black.. Lets rty to stay away from making
"people of color" the evil ones.. ok? but from the most part..
Culkin as Garion...Hahahahahahahah
Ford as Silk...Hahahahahahaha
I think for the most part the movie should give justice to the book..
and give polgara, and Belgarath and Torak to known and Established actors..
But everyone else.. including Garion Should be NEW faces...
Side note: I named my son after Belgarion...:) (dont tell my wife where
i got it from tho.. She wouldnt understand..:) ) his name is "Christopher
Garion Shaw...
later! and ill kee WATCH over this dicussion...
<<Beyonder>>
Joshua Smith
characters.
I like George Carlin as Belgarath. He can do both dignity and drunkenness,
and has the right kind of scruffy salt-and-pepper appearance. Alec Guinness
is a good second choice, but I have a hard time seeing him shouting or
carousing really. Then again, as many have suggested, he could always ACT...
(grin)
Someone writes:
> Big, tough guys who can also act? you don't want much, huh?
I can't believe no one has suggested this already: Brian Blessed is BORN to
play Barak. He was recently Essex in Brannagh's Henry V, he's huge and
bearded, has an amazing voice, and is wonderfully typecast for this part.
He's not red, but makeup is an amazing thing.
I think Mandy Patinkin is the best suggestion I've heard for Silk so far. An
excellent actor (as is Silk), wiry and rat-looking, what more could you ask
for. (grin)
Polgara is hard. I've always pictured her as very statuesque, but that may
be the fault of cover art--any astute fans have a reference to her height
handy? If I'm right, that tosses out Emma Thompson, who is a wonderful
actress but just isn't big and impressive. Ditto Angela Lansbury. Hard
character, my brain is on hold.
For Beldin, how about the guy from Holy Grail? The guy from the Bridge of
Death and Scene 23 (may have the number wrong, sue me)? Then again, anyone
short could stoop and rasp, so it's not like Beldin has a really challenging
or difficult part, I don't think...
Random thoughts for random times; comments welcome as always.
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Halim F. Aljibury
>What!! why are the Blacks being protrayed as the people who are the "evil" ones
>I mean really now...
>
> I think Durnik would be Black because he is from the Southern part of Drasia in fact i would think that most of the people from the southern part
>of the areas would be somewhat dark... Im not calling everyone dark, but i know
>Hettar would be perfect dark or even Black.. Lets rty to stay away from making
>"people of color" the evil ones.. ok? but from the most part..
>
>
very well described *note, Sendaria, not Drasnia*, Hettar is an Alorn, a race
which tends to have more than it's share of blond-haired, blue-eyed people
(yes, I know Hettar's described as having black hair...)
As for saying that people in Southern regions tend to be darker, it's sort of
true...just not to that extent..for example, that's like saying people in France
tend to be darker than people in Norway...it's true, they are tanner, but theyre
still of the same racial genotype. *shrug*
By the way, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Polgara!
Michael Rosenberg
>Been a while since I've read these damn books, so I'll stick to main
>characters.
>
>I like George Carlin as Belgarath. He can do both dignity and drunkenness,
>and has the right kind of scruffy salt-and-pepper appearance. Alec Guinness
>is a good second choice, but I have a hard time seeing him shouting or
>carousing really. Then again, as many have suggested, he could always ACT...
>(grin)
This is one I hadn't thought of. It's hard to picture Carlin doing the
commanding presence routine the few times it will be required of him though.
>
>Someone writes:
>> Big, tough guys who can also act? you don't want much, huh?
>
>I can't believe no one has suggested this already: Brian Blessed is BORN to
>play Barak. He was recently Essex in Brannagh's Henry V, he's huge and
>bearded, has an amazing voice, and is wonderfully typecast for this part.
>He's not red, but makeup is an amazing thing.
I DID suggest Brian Blessed but a) I couldn't remember his name and had to go
by description (Robbin's Father in Robbin Hood) and b) I was thinking of him
for Anheg.
>I think Mandy Patinkin is the best suggestion I've heard for Silk so far. An
>excellent actor (as is Silk), wiry and rat-looking, what more could you ask
>for. (grin)
Thanks. He just seemed like the most natural choice.
>Polgara is hard. I've always pictured her as very statuesque, but that may
>be the fault of cover art--any astute fans have a reference to her height
>handy? If I'm right, that tosses out Emma Thompson, who is a wonderful
>actress but just isn't big and impressive. Ditto Angela Lansbury. Hard
>character, my brain is on hold.
Although I can't give an exact reference, I believe she was supposed to be on
the tall side. Part of it might have been an illusion that dwelt from the
respect that came from her power.
>For Beldin, how about the guy from Holy Grail? The guy from the Bridge of
>Death and Scene 23 (may have the number wrong, sue me)? Then again, anyone
>short could stoop and rasp, so it's not like Beldin has a really challenging
>or difficult part, I don't think...
How about another character we all seemed to overlook: Yadrak
(Forgive me if I ever get names wrong, my books are at home, and it has been a
while....)
This is another part in which Carlin would be good. Or perhaps, if you want
the complete lunatic, Robbin Willimas
I've been wracking my brains for someone to play Lelladorin and have drawn
complete blanks. Any thoughts on Val Kilmer?
--Mike
Lydia Leong
>be the fault of cover art--any astute fans have a reference to her height
>handy?
Polgara is described as being "nearly as tall as a man."
I would guess -- assuming average heights in Eddings' world are about
the same as average heights in Real Life -- that that
description would put her around 5'7" or 5'8".
As for movie plot: I suppose you could always turn it into a trilogy,
like Star Wars, by eliminating most of the travelling scenes, and
focusing on the section in Val Alorn, the burning of Asharak, Ce'Nedr'as
army, and the final confrontation.
Regarding a character list:
I have a fairly extensive list of characters from the books, since
Belgariad MUSH has to keep track of who is playing a book character.
I'll post it when I finish it.
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david e myers
>In article <AJDK...@cc.swarthmore.edu> iri...@cs.swarthmore.edu (Joshua Smith) writes:
>>Been a while since I've read these damn books, so I'll stick to main
>>characters.
>>
>>I like George Carlin as Belgarath. He can do both dignity and drunkenness,
>>and has the right kind of scruffy salt-and-pepper appearance. Alec Guinness
>>is a good second choice, but I have a hard time seeing him shouting or
>>carousing really. Then again, as many have suggested, he could always ACT...
>>(grin)
>
>This is one I hadn't thought of. It's hard to picture Carlin doing the
>commanding presence routine the few times it will be required of him though.
>
Did anyone get my earlier post? (#60) I suggested George as Belgarath,
but nobody said anything about it, so I just figured everyone was ignoring
it as a stupid idea (Since it did show up on my news board). Hopefully this
one will make it. If you can read this (and aren't from OSU), please say
something as part of your next post. That way I won't have a mailbox full
of 'Yes, I saw it' replies, as everyone will see that I got an answer.
Also, I suggested Tom Skeritt (sp?), the commander in Top Gun, for
the part of Silk. I think he has the right looks, but he may be too tall.
Dave Myers
Carol A Mularski
and then, and this is one of the things we talked about. Shows that
real live authors speculate along these lines too!
Belgarath -- Richard Harris Polgara -- Sophia Loren
Garion -- "let's find an unknown. All we need is somebody
dumb and sincere." (Direct quote from letter).
C Ce'Nedra -- Drew Barrymore, hair dyed red.
Silk -- Dustin Hoffman
Hettar -- the guy who played "Hawk" in "Buck Rogers" (Christopher
C something)
Mandorallen -- Robert Goulet or Christopher Reeve.
Zedar and/or Ctuchik -- George C. Scott.
I suggested Connie Sellecca to him for Adara, he went along.
And, no, there's no movie in the offing, really. Personally, I wouldn't
want to see Hollywood slaughter and ruin my favorite fantasy series.
Sorry about all the mistakes below. I never used this editor before.
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Ce'Nedra -- Drew Barrymore, hair dy
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Mogwai
>
>Polgara:
I think Angelica Houston has been best
>Ce'Nedra: Bernadette Peters
I can see this, but I still like Nicole
Hold the Phone Chuck
BRIGHT LIGHT BRIGHT LIGHT
Sara Jessica Parker!!!!!!! She'd be just absolutely amazing! she isn't
as tall as Nicole, and she has the spunk that you would need to play
this role!!
BRIGHT LIGHT BRIGHT LIGHT!!!
>Salmissra: Cher (have to agree there...good call)
>Garion: Please-God-*anyone*-but-Macauley Culkin
****I still REALLY like Keannu Reaves
>Mandorallen: Mel Gibson (he'd need beefing up though)
>Porenn: Carrie Fisher
>Vella: Madonna
>Durnik: Bob Hoskins
>Zubrette: Can't recall the name (from Curly Sue)
How about Amanda Preston, she was the blond from _Can't_Buy_Me_Love_
>Cho-Hag: Jack Palance
>Hettar: Vocalist, Red Hot Chili Peppers
Everyone is missing the Obvious Choice
*****Steven Segal*****
>Torak: Jeff Goldblum
>UL: Derek Jacobi
>Relg: Joe Pesci
>Taiba: Connie Selleca
How about Jodie Foster for Taiba
>Ctuchik: Robert DeNiro
>Zedar: Sting
>
>Okay, now that i've gotten that out of my system...:)
>
> Tyger
>--
I still cannot think of a good Belgarath, but the above
additions/Changes I think are pretty good.
later
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Halim F. Aljibury
Steven Segal would be excellent as Hettar....just think about it...
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for that. Your wrist thinks and tells your feet and body what to do, bypassing
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dml
and as far as Kenneth Branagh, after seeing him as Henry V,
wouldn't he be better as Zakath?
dml
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Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: Polgara is described as being "nearly as tall as a man."
: I would guess -- assuming average heights in Eddings' world are about
: the same as average heights in Real Life -- that that
: description would put her around 5'7" or 5'8".
She'd have to be taller for dramatic screen presence. There is a 6'1"
model in a recent issue of People that might fit. She's a little
young, though.
Mastrantonio isn't really commanding and imperious enough for the
role, when I think about it. She's too short and ... well, more like
a princess.
Robin Curtis might work, I still think. She's old & tall enough.
And is classically statuesque.
: As for movie plot: I suppose you could always turn it into a trilogy,
: like Star Wars, by eliminating most of the travelling scenes, and
: focusing on the section in Val Alorn, the burning of Asharak, Ce'Nedr'as
: army, and the final confrontation.
Hmmm.... you'd get a feeling of being whisked along too much. I don't
see it as a trilogy... it would be nice if they could do one for
each book, because really all the scenes were important.
One trilogy failure was Back to the Future -- each installment was
worse than the last. Each star wars film was like a self contained module,
with beginning, middle & resolution. All 3 or 5 movies in the
Belgariad would be part of the same story... coming out years
after each other, I don't think they would work.
I'd be really afraid of another Dune -- chopping out 90% of the
story, and adding in new junk to make it easier to do in a couple
of hours. The movie of Dune was cut down from all the footage they had
filmed, too, which is even worse. It went from an epic to a
exile-and-return quickie. All the depth that made it so great was gone,
and I know they'd do it to the Belgariad before doing it right.
One thought: a TV miniseries -- 100 episodes, probably :) But, the
night-to-night continuity for a looonnng story would be available.
: Regarding a character list:
: I have a fairly extensive list of characters from the books, since
: Belgariad MUSH has to keep track of who is playing a book character.
: I'll post it when I finish it.
Great! We'll be looking forward to it!
Scott
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
At least he would a few years ago...what ever happened to him?
Got tired of bit parts as a villain?
Interesting Eddings choices!!! It gives one a bizarre insight into the
characters. I don't agree with many of them, unfortunately.
Scott
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: I've been wracking my brains for someone to play Lelladorin and have drawn
: complete blanks. Any thoughts on Val Kilmer?
Christain Slater (the guy in Robin Hood who got tortured, right? Right?
I don't know :)) would be really good as lelldorin.
Speaking of him... If Virginia Madsen wasn't the perfect Ce'Nedra -- and
Shannen Doherty would be better, I still think -- she could be a great
Arian(n)a.
Scott
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
Joe Don Baker would be good as a general, especially a
Murgo. Maybe as Asharak?
He's born to be a tough military guy :)
Scott
Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately
(Terrelle Shaw) writes:
>What!! why are the Blacks being protrayed as the people who are the "evil" ones
>I mean really now...
>
> I think Durnik would be Black because he is from the Southern part of
>Drasia in fact i would think that most of the people from the southern part
Actually Durnik is a Sendar -- The quintisential Sendar at that--
although that doesn't preclude the idea after all Sendars are "mixed from
everywhere" therefor anything is possible
>of the areas would be somewhat dark... Im not calling everyone dark, but i
>know
>Hettar would be perfect dark or even Black.. Lets rty to stay away from making
>"people of color" the evil ones.. ok? but from the most part..
>
> Culkin as Garion...Hahahahahahahah
> Ford as Silk...Hahahahahahaha
>
> I think for the most part the movie should give justice to the book..
>and give polgara, and Belgarath and Torak to known and Established actors..
>But everyone else.. including Garion Should be NEW faces...
>
> Side note: I named my son after Belgarion...:) (dont tell my wife where
>i got it from tho.. She wouldnt understand..:) ) his name is "Christopher
>Garion Shaw...
>
>later! and ill kee WATCH over this dicussion...
>
> <<Beyonder>>
Out only problem casting Black Actors/Actresses, is that DE didn't really make
anyone except the Northern "unchosen" Black,although I think we could then make
the Kells black (they are related after all)
To list how I origionally saw wach nationality
Alorns - Typical Viking ie Fair skinned (unless darkened by elements) Red
Blonde or Auburn (sp) hair (or possibly your British Isles ie Scottish - Cherek,
English - Drasnian, Algar - Welsh, and Rivan - Irish)
Mibrates - Typical Anglo-Saxon therefor almost anything goes
Asturan - Well a wee bit of the Irish there don' ya know
Tolnedran - well I hate to say it but they look awfully American to me.
Murgos - Mongols (Ancient ie Khan etc)
therefor the other "Angoraks" would also be Asiatic (sp) as well, with the
exception of the Mellorians because of their mingling with the Melcene's (who
would also be Black by the way)
Sendars -I personally think that the Sendars are the souls of Canadians, but
I'm sort of prejudiced that way being Canadian and all. Eh! :) (had to do it)
Of course I could be way out to lunch on that too - I would be interested in
other opinions (so I can see if they fit my semi-formed ones)
The Ulgos of course would be pale -- White Dwarves come to mind
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Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: Tolnedran - well I hate to say it but they look awfully American to me.
Come on, Tolnedrans are *Romans*!
roads built all over everywhere... extensive empire built on trade..
mantles and legions....vast beaurocracy...Emperor...
Scott
Ron Bruce
Barak: Ogre (from Nerds)
Belgarath: Sean Connery (No question at all)
Beldin: Danny DeVito
Durnik: Patrick Swayze (well, maybe not...)
Silk: Michael Keaton or Kurt Russell
Lelldorin: Christian Slater or Val Kilmer
Patrick Stewart: The Gorim
Michael Ironsides: Ctuchik
Fred Dryer: Hettar (?)
Sylvester Stallone would be good as Relg, since Relg talks so little.
This is fun...!
Any other suggestions?
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Ron Bruce
>Actually, if you want someone for Belgarath (and it is typecast) you almost
>have to go with Sir Alec Guiness. Can anyone deny that Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi
>isn't basically the same character as Belgarath. Actually, I've never really
>thought about this before, but there are a lot of parallels between the
>stories. More than I would have imagined. Of course, no one ever claimed the
>stories were particularly original :)
>
>Maybe this is why someone kept thinking of Harrison Ford as Silk (A truly
>awful notion when you think of it).
>
>Other ideas for characters:
>
>Beldin: Danny DeVito (he would certainly be better here than as Rhodar)
>Anheg: The guy who played Robbin's father in Costner's Robbin Hood (I can't
> remember his name for the life of me...Bruce something???)
>Toth: Schwarzneger (he wouldn't have to speak...it'd be perfect)
>Silk: Mandy Patnik (Patinik???) "My name is Indigo Montoya..."
>Garion: You have to go with an unknown here. It's almost required.
>
>
>--Mike
>
>* Mike Rosenberg | "Yea, though I walk through the *
Your suggestion for Silk is probably the best, realistically. Harrison
is just too old.(Come on, he's no Han Solo anymore. If he was, He'd be
perfect) And Beldin, it's got to be Danny. Arnie for Toth, I don't know.
Toth is supposed to be *HUGE*. Arnie is barely over 6 feet tall. Anheg,
Alan Rickman definitely.
How about Robert DeNiro for Zedar or Ctuchik.
Sir Alec Giuness I think is just too old for the role. Connery also has
the flair that Guiness lacks.
Zakath
Ron Bruce
A Minor Diety
|The Baron of Vo Mandor: Arnold Schwarzenegger
|Barak: Ogre (from Nerds)
The above 2 don't sound too bad.
|Belgarath: Sean Connery (No question at all)
|Beldin: Danny DeVito
|Durnik: Patrick Swayze (well, maybe not...)
|Silk: Michael Keaton or Kurt Russell
|Lelldorin: Christian Slater or Val Kilmer
Lelldorin, Belgarath and Beldin sound cool, the rest, I don't think so.
|Patrick Stewart: The Gorim
|Michael Ironsides: Ctuchik
|Fred Dryer: Hettar (?)
I don't really think Stewart would make a good gorim, I don't know
Ironsides, but I was thinking about Hettar and VanDamme's name came to
my mind.
Also responding to another poster. Silk is also referred to as The
Rat. I offer no explaination for this phenomena.
Later
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Garry Knox
My choice for Garion, Wil Wheaton of ST:TNG.
How about the bad guy from Die Hard as Chamdar?
-garry
Garrett Hartzog
Indians....Each race and each country in the novels has its own parallel.
Tolnedrans (sp???) would probably be italian (it closely parallels the roman
empire) or one of the other countries bordering the mediterranian sea. The
Murgos would be best played by people of Russian heritage...etc...
Garrett Hartzog
ghar...@terapin.com
Garrett Hartzog
> remember his name for the life of me...Bruce something???)
>Toth: Schwarzneger (he wouldn't have to speak...it'd be perfect)
>Silk: Mandy Patnik (Patinik???) "My name is Indigo Montoya..."
>Garion: You have to go with an unknown here. It's almost required.
>
>
>--Mike
>
>
Naw, for Toth, you need Lou Farigno (SP???) you know, the weight lifter who
played the incredible Hulk.
Garrett Hartzog
ghar...@terapin.com
Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately
>In article <1992May24.0...@CS.ORST.EDU> bru...@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Ron Bruce) writes:
>|The Baron of Vo Mandor: Arnold Schwarzenegger
>|Barak: Ogre (from Nerds)
>
>The above 2 don't sound too bad.
actors for everyone else... he's described as being of medium stature with a
towering ego, not tall with a towering ego (although with a lot of really tall
actors playing everyone else casting "little" Silk would no longer be a
problem)
>
>|Belgarath: Sean Connery (No question at all)
>|Beldin: Danny DeVito
>|Durnik: Patrick Swayze (well, maybe not...)
>|Silk: Michael Keaton or Kurt Russell
>|Lelldorin: Christian Slater or Val Kilmer
>
>Lelldorin, Belgarath and Beldin sound cool, the rest, I don't think so.
>
>|Patrick Stewart: The Gorim
>|Michael Ironsides: Ctuchik
>|Fred Dryer: Hettar (?)
>
>I don't really think Stewart would make a good gorim, I don't know
>Ironsides, but I was thinking about Hettar and VanDamme's name came to
>my mind.
I think I could agree with VanDamme as Hetter
(It must be the pony tail)
>
>Also responding to another poster. Silk is also referred to as The
>Rat. I offer no explaination for this phenomena.
>
>Later
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> D D i c kkk | "Quoth the raven 'Eat My Shorts'" and
> DDDDDD i cccc k kk WAS HERE | "Later Grizzley Dudes" - Bart Simpson
DE gave each of the "Major" characters different "titles" in each of the
prophacies (Their "real" names were told at Garions coronation)
Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately
was going past the superficial Imperial dressings to the "core of their beings"
(and I already said my views had a Canadian bias :) )
Connie Cho
Garion should probably be an unknown actor, with a strong
supporting cast of stars. Then again, I've been partial to
Cary Elwes ever since the Princess Bride...:)
CKC
Connie Cho
>Actually, if you want someone for Belgarath (and it is typecast) you almost
>have to go with Sir Alec Guiness. Can anyone deny that Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi
>isn't basically the same character as Belgarath. Actually, I've never really
>thought about this before, but there are a lot of parallels between the
>stories. More than I would have imagined. Of course, no one ever claimed the
>stories were particularly original :)
>
>Maybe this is why someone kept thinking of Harrison Ford as Silk (A truly
>awful notion when you think of it).
>
>Other ideas for characters:
>
>Beldin: Danny DeVito (he would certainly be better here than as Rhodar)
> remember his name for the life of me...Bruce something???)
>Toth: Schwarzneger (he wouldn't have to speak...it'd be perfect)
>Silk: Mandy Patnik (Patinik???) "My name is Indigo Montoya..."
Close, try Patinkin. Yes, I think he's a great actor, and would make
a creditable Silk.
CKC
>
>
>--Mike
>
>P.S.--Barak is supposed to be really hairy so maybe Chewey....(just kidding)
>
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mh56...@ducvax.auburn.edu
Toth: How about Andre the Giant? He's about as huge as they get.
Torak: The warlock from the movie Warlock. He has the looks and the
personality.
Garion: Probably an unknown. Jeremy Miller isn't bad though.
Salmissra: I still like Cher. She has the attitude, and Salmissra was
described as starting to age (that's why she wanted to marry
Torak after all :).
Beldin: Danny Devito. Definitely.
Silk: Billy Crystal is acrobatic enough. What movies has this Rowan dude
been in?
Belgarath: I'm going to stick with Sean Connery.
Ctuchik: Alec Guiness would be good here. Ctuchik is much more serious
than Belgarath. He has the long beard (even if it is kinda yellow).
Zedar: Here is somplace else that Guiness would work. He looks enough like
Connery to have had Aldur leave his impression on both of them.
Polgara: I see her (and Durnik) in the early-to-mid thirties. Mastrianno(?)
wouldn't work, Robin Hood notwithstanding (she's not beautiful
or commanding enough). Offhand I can't think of someone.
Durnik: Mel Gibson might work here. Go ahead and flame me for this choice.
I don't have any ideas on the soundtrack.
Jim Robbins aka Tagaran aka Hawg
JON THUMIM
>A couple of ideas about the movie:
>
>Toth: How about Andre the Giant? He's about as huge as they get.
>Torak: The warlock from the movie Warlock. He has the looks and the
> personality.
That is Julian Sands. He is also in Impromptu.
>Garion: Probably an unknown. Jeremy Miller isn't bad though.
>Salmissra: I still like Cher. She has the attitude, and Salmissra was
> described as starting to age (that's why she wanted to marry
> Torak after all :).
>Beldin: Danny Devito. Definitely.
>Silk: Billy Crystal is acrobatic enough. What movies has this Rowan dude
> been in?
>Belgarath: I'm going to stick with Sean Connery.
>Ctuchik: Alec Guiness would be good here. Ctuchik is much more serious
> than Belgarath. He has the long beard (even if it is kinda yellow).
>Zedar: Here is somplace else that Guiness would work. He looks enough like
> Connery to have had Aldur leave his impression on both of them.
>Polgara: I see her (and Durnik) in the early-to-mid thirties. Mastrianno(?)
> wouldn't work, Robin Hood notwithstanding (she's not beautiful
> or commanding enough). Offhand I can't think of someone.
>Durnik: Mel Gibson might work here. Go ahead and flame me for this choice.
>
GAG!
Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner
: was going past the superficial Imperial dressings to the "core of their
: beings"
: (and I already said my views had a Canadian bias :) )
But American civilization -- and Western civilization -- is based on
Rome and Greece of old, so we're really saying the same thing! :)
Scott
Gerald Hough
For Asharak, I think that the guy who played the Kergan in Highland would
be the best bet. He's a dirty, gritty sort of guy that would play the
part to the fullest.
For Garion: Young, the boy who plays Wesley in star trek the next generation
Old, the guy who played the boy in the witch mountain series...
And since I do research at Wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana
Garion as wolf: NK
Pol as wolf: Deneb
Garath: Chinook
Garath's wife: The late Kaleah..
Too bad movie people never make the good stories into movies...
--Jer
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>I don't know :)) would be really good as lelldorin.
Hay! I got it! The guy who played Robin Hood in the BBC series (nah, not
Jason Connery, the first guy) would be PERFECT!! Slater would be a bit too
ominous and not as innocent as he could be.
>Speaking of him... If Virginia Madsen wasn't the perfect Ce'Nedra -- and
>Shannen Doherty would be better, I still think -- she could be a great
>Arian(n)a.
Yeah! Shannon would ber purr-fect Arianna.
Anyone yet figure who's going to be the dry voice yet? I think that Andrew
Eldrich form the Sisters of Mercy would be fitting...
>
>Scott
Stephen Ollis
Any ideas on Beltira and Belkira?????
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>Ever since I introduced the Belgariad and Malloreon to my family,
>we've been playing games with who should be cast if the stories
>were ever turned into a movie (or series thereof). Personally,
>there are only two people I'd really vote for, castingwise: Sean
>Connery would make a really interesting Belgarath, and (don't
Neat. But I can't picture him with a beard.
>laugh, please--my ego bruises easily) Rowan Atkinson as Silk.
>Think about it--anybody who can manage the acrobatics he performs
>in "Mr. Bean" could definitely pull off Silk's defensive style.
>Besides, the facial description is too close to miss.
>
I've always pictured Silk as vaguely like the Grey Mouser in Leiber's
Lankhmar, but I suppose anything is possible...
In general, all the neat movie stars don't correspond with all the
exciting fantasy characters we all know and love.
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>Okay, time to synthesize (boy, am I glad I started this thread)--
>
> Barak: Clancy Brown
> Hettar: Charlie Sheen
> Mandorallin: Lancelot from "Excalibur"
> Beldin: Bob Hoskins
>
> Rhodar: Paul Prudhomme (The Cajun Chef)
> Porenn: Michelle Pfeiffer
> Cho-Hag: Graham Greene
> Adara: Girl from "Dances with Wolves"
> Anheg: Brian Blessed
> Ran Borune: William Hickey
> Varana: Patrick Stewart
> Brand: Charlton Heston
> Korodullin: Kyle McLachlan
> Mayaserana: Mia Sara
> Salmissra: Jennifer Connolly;
> Amanda Donohoe (typecasting!)
> Kal Zakath: Derek Jacobi;
> Agachak: Alan Rickman
> Grolim Sorcerer who
> Tracks Garion: Michael Nouri
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Chamdar? (Asharak)
>
> For the life of me, I can't come up with anybody for
>Cyradis, Zandramas, the Sendar King, Lelldorin, and other bit
>parts. Any suggestions?
>
Whoa! We're talking both Mallorean and Belgariad? The Belgariad alone
would already be way too long! Anyway... since we're being
unrealistic here due to the sheer cost of hiring all them names... I'd
just like to say that Alec Guiness would be the ultimate Belgarath.
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>
>She'd be hard to cast....All the algars ought to be sort of Native
>American or Middle Eastern looking...
>
Eh? Adara was described as "pale" (as was Queen Silar, for that
matter). Garion's mother was Algar; I can't picture a Garion that
looks like a cross between an Iraqi and a Brit...
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>
>As for movie plot: I suppose you could always turn it into a trilogy,
>like Star Wars, by eliminating most of the travelling scenes, and
>focusing on the section in Val Alorn, the burning of Asharak, Ce'Nedr'as
>army, and the final confrontation.
>
What about the confrontation in Cthol Murgos w/ Ctuchik, eh?
Certainly more exciting than the wood of the dryads!
Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately
>In article <1992May23....@cs.unca.edu> mcm...@cs.unca.edu
(Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>
>Anyone yet figure who's going to be the dry voice yet? I think that Andrew
>Eldrich form the Sisters of Mercy would be fitting...
>
voice.
But how about ...(don't ya hate it when a name slips your mind) ... [ Capt.
Picard ]
>
>>
>>Scott
>
>--Jer
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>
>Any ideas on Beltira and Belkira?????
>
how about Burns (NOT! :) ) Seriously I don't think there are any Older
Identical twins in the movie making business right now, looks like time for
Camera tricks I have a picture in my mind of the guy I think would be great
for the part but I can't think of his name -- TV or otherwise
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>
> My choice for Garion, Wil Wheaton of ST:TNG.
>
> How about the bad guy from Die Hard as Chamdar?
>
>
I can't STAND Wil Wheaton. I say go with an unknown for Garion.
Rickman would be a good Chamdar, but I think it'd be interesting to
see him as a good guy just once. Someone suggested him as Anheg --
that would be cool.
High-Tech Crazie
Here's some replies of my own:
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio as Polgara - not a bad idea.
Burgress Meredith as Belgarath; if he wasn't so old (he'd
probably be dead in 10 yrs)
Toth: How about Andre the Giant? - YEAH!
>Uglo again, I think maybe Middle Ages European something.....
Not Tibet. The Seers of Kell are probably the Tibe-like, but the
Seeress in the last book was supposed to be a pretty brunette
Seeress of Kell - Lori Loughlin (sp) ?
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>>Okay, time to synthesize (boy, am I glad I started this thread)--
>>
>> Barak: Clancy Brown
>> Hettar: Charlie Sheen
>> Mandorallin: Lancelot from "Excalibur"
>> Beldin: Bob Hoskins
Just my opinion, but I can imagine any known actor or actress that would fit
the roles of any of the characters. Over the pages of 10 books, Eddings
created images of people in my mind that could not be filled by "famous"
people. I have to laugh at any of the so-far mentioned actors and
actresses. If a movie was made (I hope not 'cause I do not believe they
could do the story justice) I think the use of new, unknown talent would
be the best. Instead of trying to figure out what character Sean Connery
would fit the best, why not find some unknown actor who fits a particular
character the best?
Just some rambling ideas.
Gordon Storga
>In article <EMERY.92May21155442@Dr_No.mitre.org> emery@Dr_No.mitre.org (David Emery) writes:
>>Kristen had some excellent ideas. But, let's do something slightly
>>radical and possibly PC, too. Consider if we make Mandorallen, et.al
>>(I forget the 'country name' right off the top of my head) -black-.
>>I'd propose Danny Glover for Mandorallen. It would be an interesting
>>wrinkle...
Nah, Nicholas Cage as Mandorallen, with Schwarzenegger as Durnik and Hulk
Hogan as Barak. Sigourney Weaver as Polgara and Devito as Beldin. Robin
Williams as Silk.
Just a partial list...
Gordon
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Karyn Lynn
In article <1992May21.1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>, m...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg) writes...
>Actually, if you want someone for Belgarath (and it is typecast) you almost
>have to go with Sir Alec Guiness. Can anyone deny that Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi
>isn't basically the same character as Belgarath. Actually, I've never really
>thought about this before, but there are a lot of parallels between the
>stories. More than I would have imagined. Of course, no one ever claimed the
>stories were particularly original :)
>
I liked Guiness as Obi Wan, but somehow I can't see him as Belgarath.
As someone else suggested, Sean Connery all the way!!
>Maybe this is why someone kept thinking of Harrison Ford as Silk (A truly
>awful notion when you think of it).
>
>Other ideas for characters:
>
>Beldin: Danny DeVito (he would certainly be better here than as Rhodar)
>Anheg: The guy who played Robbin's father in Costner's Robbin Hood (I can't
> remember his name for the life of me...Bruce something???)
>Toth: Schwarzneger (he wouldn't have to speak...it'd be perfect)
>Silk: Mandy Patnik (Patinik???) "My name is Indigo Montoya..."
Mandy Patinken(sp)
>Garion: You have to go with an unknown here. It's almost required.
>
How about Brian Austin Green of Beverly Hills 90210. I'm picking him
mostly because of his face, not his acting ability :). He's got an
innocent face, sort of like what I'd imagine Garion to look like at 16.
Other characters:
C'Nedra: possibly Holly Hunter
Polgara: Really hard to place, she'd have to be mid forties, motherly and
beautiful: Glenn Close possibly?>
Silk: James Wood (he's got the face and the intensity, just give him the
sarcasm and humor and he'd be perfect)
Beldin: Danny Devito
Can't think of anymore right now. Anyone have any suggestions for the Gods
?
Karyn
Luther
>Nah, Nicholas Cage as Mandorallen, with Schwarzenegger as Durnik and Hulk
>Hogan as Barak. Sigourney Weaver as Polgara and Devito as Beldin. Robin
>Williams as Silk.
>
Nicholas Cage could be improved... I *like* S. Weaver as Polgara.
But please... Joe Pesci as Silk!!!!
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Gordon Storga
>>
>>Nah, Nicholas Cage as Mandorallen, with Schwarzenegger as Durnik and Hulk
>>Hogan as Barak. Sigourney Weaver as Polgara and Devito as Beldin. Robin
>>Williams as Silk.
>>
>
>Nicholas Cage could be improved... I *like* S. Weaver as Polgara.
>But please... Joe Pesci as Silk!!!!
Nicholas Cage or Nicholas Clay, it's the guy who played Lancelot in
Excalibur. His Lancelot was the perfect Mandorallen, even down to the
tragic love triangle and vacant looks.
Pesci as Silk??? Geez, no way! Silk was described as small and *wiry*.
Wiry implies slim and athletic. Does Pesci strike you as being able to do
hand springs?? Silk was funny, but never a laughingstock. The actor
has to be able to be humorous in an intelligent way, yet be able to convey
vulnerability in a believably reluctant manner. Pesci is a good actor,
but doesn't have the physical atrtibutes, nor the acting capability IMHO.
Even Willims might be too large and silly for the role. Silk had dignity
too. And William could definately do the impersonations that Silk is
famous for.
Sigourney Weaver was on Leno last night. Damn, that woman is attractive.
She's the only actress I can imagine playing Polgara - tall as a man,
dignified, strong presence, and a damn good actress.
Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately
>
>Nicholas Cage or Nicholas Clay, it's the guy who played Lancelot in
>Excalibur. His Lancelot was the perfect Mandorallen, even down to the
>tragic love triangle and vacant looks.
>
>Pesci as Silk??? Geez, no way! Silk was described as small and *wiry*.
>Wiry implies slim and athletic. Does Pesci strike you as being able to do
>hand springs?? Silk was funny, but never a laughingstock. The actor
>has to be able to be humorous in an intelligent way, yet be able to convey
>vulnerability in a believably reluctant manner. Pesci is a good actor,
>but doesn't have the physical atrtibutes, nor the acting capability IMHO.
>Even Willims might be too large and silly for the role. Silk had dignity
>too. And William could definately do the impersonations that Silk is
>famous for.
(almost) short enough, he might have slim down a bit (but I think that could be
over looked
>
>Sigourney Weaver was on Leno last night. Damn, that woman is attractive.
>She's the only actress I can imagine playing Polgara - tall as a man,
>dignified, strong presence, and a damn good actress.
>
I must confess that while she Isn't my Favourite, she could probably pull it
off (As long as she doesn't shave her head again (Shudder)
>
>Gordon
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W. Stirling
I wholeheartedly agree... Wil Wheaton ought to be killed in one of
the exciting ways they're always mentioning in
alt.ensign.crusher.die.die.die, or at the very least, dragged out in
the street and shot.
OOTC: I think Garion ought to be an unknown, but since this is all
speculation, who cares?
"And tomorrow never comes..." - The Durutti Column
wma...@evax.tuwien.ac.at
>In article <s0wk2!-.ty...@netcom.com>, ty...@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:
>>>: Belgarath: Christopher Lloyd
>>>
>>>No, I don't think so!
>>>Admit it, it would have to be Connery.
>>
>> Connery is too neat and dignfied...can you *really* see him in mismatched hose
>> getting drunk at any available opportunity?
>
>
>Actually, I saw Sean Connery in a movie (maybe his first role) with Glen Ford
>that came out in the late 50's (I think). All he did for the whole movie was
>play the drunken sailor, so I think he'd be up to it, besides talk about a
>difference in character between James Bond and Henry Jones, Sr. (Indiana Jones
>and the Last Crusade); I think he can act. You'd need someone who can be
>dignified for those certain moments when Belgarath isn't drunk and is serious
>about what he's doing!
>
>Tanya Olsen
What more is to do than agree?
wm