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Hardy Hestert

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Sep 4, 2002, 11:41:57 AM9/4/02
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Didn't Reverend Mother Odrade have a van Gogh painting, or was that
something in the prequels? Wasn't that painting "Cottages at
Cordeville"? Was it a replication or the original?

Unfortunately I don't have the books here. Could somebody with an e-text
(or one of our Mentat quote masters) run a search and quote the lines in
which the painting is described?

Thanks in advance.
Hardy

Juho Julkunen

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Sep 4, 2002, 12:12:39 PM9/4/02
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Hardy Hestert (hes...@t-online.de) wrote...

I'd say it was original, but don't have a quote handy.

For context, those interested may follow this link :

http://www.vangoghgallery.com/misc/personal.htm

JTJ
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Nich

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Sep 4, 2002, 12:20:55 PM9/4/02
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"Hardy Hestert" <hes...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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: Didn't Reverend Mother Odrade have a van Gogh painting, or was that

Yes, the office of Mother Superior has a van Gogh in it, restored by Ixians
to not only make it look good, but convey the emotion of van Gogh as he
worked on it. And yes, it's 'Cottages at Cordeville'. (H:D, NEL, pg 146)

Not quite sure if this is the description you were after.., but hope so :)

"Odrade closed her eyes and memory startled her by producing of itself an
image of a painting. The thing occupied a space on the wall of Taraza's
morning-room. Ixian artifice had perserved the painting in the finest
hermetically-sealed frame behinf a cover of invisible plaz. Odrade often
stopped in front of the painting, feeling each time that her hand might
reach out and actually touch the ancient canvas so cunningly preserved by
the Ixians.
"Cottages at Cordeville.
"The artist's name for his work and his own name were preserved on a
burnished plate beneath the painting: Vincent Can Gogh.
"The thing dated from a time so ancient that only rare remnants such as this
painting remained to send a physical impression down the ages. She had
tried to imagine the journeys that painting had taken, the serial chance
which had brought it intact to Taraza's room.
"The Ixians had been at their b est in the preservation and restoration. An
observer could touch a dark spot on the lower left corner of the frame.
Immediately, you were engulfed in the true genius, not only of the artist,
but of the Ixian who had restored and preseved the work. His name was there
on teh frame: Martin Buro. When touched by the human finger, the dot became
a sense projector, a benign spin-off of the technology which had produced
the Ixian Probe. Buro had restored not only the painting but the painter -
Van Gogh's captured brush strokes, recorded there by human movements.
"Odrade had stood there engrossed through the whole performance so many
times she felt she could recreate the painting independantly.
"Recalling this experiance so near to Teg's accusation, she kne at once why
her memory had reproduced the image for her, why t ha tpainting still
fascinated her. For the brief space of that replay she always felt totally
human, aware of the cottages as places where real people dwelled, aware in
some complete way of the living chain which had passed there in teh person
of the mad Vincent Van Gogh, paused to record itself."

__________
The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure pure reasoning, and
inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and
impenetrable fog!
-- Calvin, from "Calvin & Hobbes"


Stephen Conroy

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Sep 4, 2002, 1:55:19 PM9/4/02
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Also in Chapter house and Butlerian Jihad, Erasamus in BJ paints a copy of
The Cottage of Caudeville.

The Butlerian Jihad, trade paperback, page 99.

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Hardy Hestert

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Sep 4, 2002, 6:12:51 PM9/4/02
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BUTLERIAN JIHAD SPOILER BELOW

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Page 99, that's why I asked. Just an idea, but maybe during the
Butlerian Jihad Erasmus' copy, which is a robitcally perfect copy, ends
up in the posession of what may become the Bene Gesserit sisterhood.
Maybe it turns out that after all Odrade's painting is not the original?
Wouldn't be surprised if they'd find out in Dune 7. Although they'd be
messing with Frank's work again his could turn out to be a nice little
side-story linking the Butlerian Jihad era with the post scattering era.

Stephen Conroy schrieb:

Hardy Hestert

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Sep 4, 2002, 6:22:01 PM9/4/02
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Juho Julkunen schrieb:

Very nice. Thanks ;o)
Hardy

Hardy Hestert

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Sep 4, 2002, 6:15:25 PM9/4/02
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Nich schrieb:

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> "Hardy Hestert" <hes...@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:3D7629C5...@t-online.de...
> : Didn't Reverend Mother Odrade have a van Gogh painting, or was that
> : something in the prequels? Wasn't that painting "Cottages at
> : Cordeville"? Was it a replication or the original?
> :
> : Unfortunately I don't have the books here. Could somebody with an e-text
> : (or one of our Mentat quote masters) run a search and quote the lines in
> : which the painting is described?
> :
> : Thanks in advance.
> : Hardy
>
> Yes, the office of Mother Superior has a van Gogh in it, restored by Ixians
> to not only make it look good, but convey the emotion of van Gogh as he
> worked on it. And yes, it's 'Cottages at Cordeville'. (H:D, NEL, pg 146)
>
> Not quite sure if this is the description you were after.., but hope so :)
<snip>

Exactly that's what I've been looking for, thanks alot.

Hardy Hestert

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Sep 4, 2002, 6:25:13 PM9/4/02
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Wild Monkshood schrieb:

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> > Page 99, that's why I asked. Just an idea, but maybe during the
> > Butlerian Jihad Erasmus' copy, which is a robitcally perfect copy, ends
> > up in the posession of what may become the Bene Gesserit sisterhood.
> > Maybe it turns out that after all Odrade's painting is not the original?
> > Wouldn't be surprised if they'd find out in Dune 7. Although they'd be
> > messing with Frank's work again his could turn out to be a nice little
> > side-story linking the Butlerian Jihad era with the post scattering era.
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> If the B.G.'s, with their millennia of memories, find it to be authentic,
> that's good enough for me.
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> Wild (Besides the fact that Fh was clear that it was genuine, thus it importance
> to Odrade's sense of self) Monkshood

On second thought you're probably right. And the BG memory probably
hasn't forgotten the ancient art of C14 analysis.

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