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Hardy Hestert

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Feb 3, 2001, 10:31:35 AM2/3/01
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Yesterday I bought an english copy of HoD, I had read a german
translation years ago, and guess what: I had to notice that in my german
copy the prologue was missing! How can a translator do that sort of
things?!?! Argh!!!

A very angry
Hardy Hestert

Drew

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Feb 3, 2001, 1:21:53 PM2/3/01
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Cool you engines, I'm not sure you are blaming the right culprit.

I am currently going through the series and have just started Heretics of
Dune. Reading this message I found myself wondering, "What prologue!".
Checking my copy, there was in fact no prologue and as it is a hardcopy,
1984 printing, I would suspect that the copy you are reading had a prologue
added to it, not that the German version had it removed.

Drew

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Gunnar Harboe

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Feb 3, 2001, 5:50:18 PM2/3/01
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:21:53 GMT, "Drew" <som...@optonline.net> wrote:

>Cool you engines, I'm not sure you are blaming the right culprit.
>
>I am currently going through the series and have just started Heretics of
>Dune. Reading this message I found myself wondering, "What prologue!".
>Checking my copy, there was in fact no prologue and as it is a hardcopy,
>1984 printing, I would suspect that the copy you are reading had a prologue
>added to it, not that the German version had it removed.
>
>Drew

Some editions of HoD have the intro, some don't. In particular, I don't
think any British edition has it. It can be found online (www.usul.net,
for instance).

>"Hardy Hestert" <hardy....@stud.tum.de> wrote in message
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>> Yesterday I bought an english copy of HoD, I had read a german
>> translation years ago, and guess what: I had to notice that in my german
>> copy the prologue was missing! How can a translator do that sort of
>> things?!?! Argh!!!
>>
>> A very angry
>> Hardy Hestert


Bye!
Gunnar Harboe
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denoting the opposite of the leafy herb. Oh, we speak
in daily discourse of "anti-parsley," but that is
another thing entire. What the word for a thing is
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Hardy Hestert

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Feb 3, 2001, 10:04:28 PM2/3/01
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No, that intro (http://www.usul.net/documents/intro_to_heretics.htm) is
not what I'm talking about. The Prologue that is missing in my german
HoD copy begins:


Prologue
In the name of the Bene Gesserit Order and its unbroken Sisterhood, this
account has been judged reliable and worthy of entry into the Chronicles
of the Chapter House.
This well recognized prescript has been tossed into limbo by the words
and actions of Bashar Miles Teg, the last person n the universe ...
[... 3 pages ...]
... But still have that deathless choice: degenerate or overcome our
adversities!
-Mother Superior Darwi Odrade,
Argument in Council

Instead my old german edition begins with:

Most discipline is hidden discipline, designed not to ...
-The Apocrypha of Arrakis

"Taraza told you, did she not, that we have gone through....


Well, if that (above) prologue is missing in other HoD editions as well,
then I'd really like to know why. My english copy that includes the
prologue is a new ("And you can now read House Atreides and House
Harkonnen...") New English Library/Hodder and Stoughton paperback.

A somehow confused
Hardy Hestert

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Usul

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Feb 4, 2001, 4:49:25 AM2/4/01
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I have a few copies of the chronicles so here goes on which has and has not
got the prologue


UK Editions
NEL softcover march 1985 Has the prologue
Victor Gollancz hardcover first edition has the prologue

USA Editions
Ace softcover august 1987 Has the intro "when I was writing Dune"
Berkley trade paperback has the intro "when I was writing Dune"
Putnam hardcover first edition has neither


So I guess for the most part the UK editions have the prologue and the USA
editions have the intro and the first editions have neither

Dune10191

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