count fenrig's lady
.. ..
anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd? (from the 1st
book).which book/books details the "wild jihad"? sounds mighty exitin'.
also are there any good Herbert books (other than the dune series)?
Coen de Meijer
.. .. wrote:
> anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd?
IMHO Margo Fenring never 'got-it-on' with Feyd. IIRC she merely noted
that it would be handy to have him under Bene Gesserit control.
Coen
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Joe D. Foster-Grant
In <6dlr41$ft3$1...@newsd-113.bryant.webtv.net> ExR...@webtv.net (.. ..)
writes:
She did 'cuz her man couldn't get it up, being a eunuch or something.
Joe D. Foster-Grant
Thomas Lund
.. .. wrote:
>
> anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd? (from the 1st
> book).which book/books details the "wild jihad"? sounds mighty exitin'.
> also are there any good Herbert books (other than the dune series)?
The destination void series are great.
So is his "whipping star"
SSM
Last
I was under the impression that Lady Fenring did breed with Feyd.
<Quote>
(Fenring) "The young one will be more amenable to control."
(Margot) "For us...after tonight,"
(Fenring) "You don't anticipate difficulty seducing hum, my little
broodmother?"
(Margot) "No, my love. You saw how he looked at me."
(Fenring) "Yes, and I can see now why we must have that bloodline."
(Margot) "Indeed, and it's obcious we must have a hold on him. I'll
plant deep in his deepest self the nencessarry prana-bindy phrases to
bend him.
(Fenring) "We'll leave as soon as possible蟻s soon as you're sure."
(Margot) "By all means. I should not want to bear a child in this
terriable place."
</Quote>
In the Bene Gesserit's eyes, the Harkonnen blood line was just as
important as the Atredes (discounting the error involving Jessica.) Feyd
was to have been breed with an Atredies daughter to produce the Kwisatz
Haderach. Now that the BG saw that this was impossiable, they had to try
and save as much of the genetic code as they could. Margot must have
been a breeding mother, and was probably an imprinter as well.
<shudder> Broodmother....what a disturbing pet name...
-Nick Last
The end comes, beyond chaos...
Kristi
.. .. wrote:
> anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd? (from the 1st
> book).which book/books details the "wild jihad"? sounds mighty exitin'.
> also are there any good Herbert books (other than the dune series)?
Try Soul Catcher, The Eyes of Heisenberg, The Godmakers (just finished
re-reading) and ALWAYS, The Jesus Incident.
Chris
In article <34FED1...@tem.nhl.nl.NOSPAM>, Coen de Meijer
<meij...@tem.nhl.nl.NOSPAM> writes
>.. .. wrote:
>> anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd?
>
>that it would be handy to have him under Bene Gesserit control.
Didn't Lady Fenring end up pregnant with Feyd's child ? I seem to
remember them talking about her seducing Feyd, and getting his child in
her womb or something along those lines...
--
Chris Thurtle
(Email: radagast at thurtle dot demon dot co dot uk)
Miles Teg
While visiting Giede Prime for Feyd-Rautha's 17th birthday, Lady
Margot Fenring became pregnant by Feyd-Rautha, at RM Mohiam's orders -
in order to preserve the bloodline of the one the BG had intended to
father the kwisatz-haderach on an Atreides daughter. (Jessica was
supposed to produce only daughters, but disobeyed because of her love
for her duke.)
Margot did not see the value in Feyd-Rautha at first. But after his
brave and stylish showing against a captured Atreides gladiator she
could see why the BG wanted his line preserved. The Count was a
willing tool of the BG in this.
At the end of Dune, RM Mohiam reflects that, in the impending fight to
the death between Paul and Feyd-Rautha, both might be killed, leaving
only Alia and "Feyd-Rautha's bastard daughter, still a baby, an
unknown, an unmeasured factor". I assume that this daughter was
Margot's.
I'm told The Dosadi Experiment is quite good, but avoid The Green
Brain.
Hope this helps.
Miles Teg
"Just when you thought you were winning the rat race......
along come faster rats."
ghola
On 5 Mar 1998, Joe D. Foster-Grant wrote:
>
> In <6dlr41$ft3$1...@newsd-113.bryant.webtv.net> ExR...@webtv.net (.. ..)
> writes:
> >
> >anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd? (from the
> 1st
> >book).which book/books details the "wild jihad"? sounds mighty
> exitin'.
> >also are there any good Herbert books (other than the dune series)?
>
> She did 'cuz her man couldn't get it up, being a eunuch or something.
>
> Joe D. Foster-Grant
>
>
Fenrig was a eunuch...he had no balls! He could still have sex, he just
could not have any children. Lady Margo would not have had sex with Feyd
because she was BG. The BG would not have allowed them on account of the
gene markers present in House Harkonnen. Besides, Feyd was only 15 years
old.
-andy
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ghola ... check out what 'last' wrote:
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Subject: Re: count fenrig's lady
Date: 5 Mar 1998 22:36:58 GMT
From: Last <la...@tiac.net>
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-Nick Last
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Hitch
Dear "ghola:"
Sorry, but, if you review the Chronicles, the BG were in-breeding
*Harkonnen* genetics, with only a "dash" of Atreides thrown in. Between
the citations already provided to you, and RMGHM's thoughts at the end of
Dune, it is clear that Margot Fenring was quite successful in her
*assigned* task - leaving Giedi Prime with Feyd's child in her womb.
Remember - Jessica (and Paul, and ALL the Atreides offspring through those
two) WERE Harkonnens; and the plan was to breed Jessica's *daughter* to
Feyd - *Harkonnen* bloodlines. This plan was not at all *repugnant* to the
BG; they'd planned it. And, BTW...many, if not all, 15-year olds (male)
can easily impregnate a woman.
Hitch
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ghola <cua...@panther1.pen.eiu.edu> wrote in article
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William Gene Cole
That's my recollection, too. (And I just re-read the book for the third
time.)
Chris wrote in message ...
>In article <34FED1...@tem.nhl.nl.NOSPAM>, Coen de Meijer
><meij...@tem.nhl.nl.NOSPAM> writes
>>.. .. wrote:
>>> anyone know if that Margo chick ever got-it-on with Feyd?
>>
NS Harris
<snippety snip>
> Besides, Feyd was only 15 years
> old.
As has already been pointed out, this doesn't mean that he can't have
kids yet. If you're saying that the BG might have some kind of scruples
about seducing people under 16, I'd point you in the direction of the
Teg ghola's seduction in Chapter House. Although this is different
because Teg was a ghola, he was still very much physically underage, and
his un-awakened mind was that of a child.
Nikki