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boulay

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Which difference between the hardcover and the tradepaper of dune
encyclopedia ?

Willis McNelly

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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In article <7rq9uj$7n1$1...@jaydee.iway.fr>, "boulay " <bou...@agf.fr> wrote:

> Which difference between the hardcover and the tradepaper of dune
> encyclopedia ?


First, the trade paperback edition of the DE had a print run of nearly
100,000. It has never had a second printing.

There were two different hardback editions of the DE: The first was a
small printing (under 3000 copies) of a regular trade edition, primarily
aimed at library sales. The second was a smaller size (in physical
dimensions but not in content) Science Fiction book club edition. I do not
know the size of the SF book club printing.

In addition, there was a British trade paperback printing and a German
hard back in two volumes. I do not know the print run of either edition.
ALL editions in the English language carried identical material, without
change, including pagination. The British edition used the same plates as
the American edition, as I understand it. The German edition carried no
more nor no less material, the only differences being those of
translation.

To my certain knowledge I have never signed any hardback edition of the
DE. If you wish your copy signed, see the most recent a.f.d FAQ.

Will McNelly

Dan Cline

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Willis McNelly wrote:

I've never even seen a Hard Back DE. Believe me I have looked, the freaking
paperbacks are hard enough to find. Speaking of which, is there any new news on
republishing the DE? Have you been able to contact Brian Herbert, or KJ? They
may be the key to getting the DE published again.


Willis McNelly

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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In article <37E15262...@castles.com>, Dan Cline
<danc...@castles.com> wrote:

No news as yet on getting the DE back into print. We have a good lead,
however, so keep your fingers crossed.

John Kenny

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Willis McNelly <wmcn...@fullerton.edu> wrote in message
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[snip]

> To my certain knowledge I have never signed any hardback edition of the
> DE. If you wish your copy signed, see the most recent a.f.d FAQ.
>
> Will McNelly

(The sound of me clearing my throat.)

And that would make the copy you inscribed for me on 3/31/99 a fake? Egads!
Run for San Diego!! Face Dancers have invaded Fullerton.

Cheers!
John (who wishes he knew that handy pheromonal trick of the Sisterhood)

Elizabeth Falkner

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Willis McNelly wrote:
> No news as yet on getting the DE back into print. We have a good lead,
> however, so keep your fingers crossed.


Willis dear,

Any society which cancels the TV show "Crusade" even before it debuts
and keeps crap like "Touched by an Angel" in the top ten doesn't WANT
the DE.

We have met the enemy and they are us.

Elizabeth

Dan Cline

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Elizabeth Falkner wrote:

I use to work market research. Believe me when I say that people are told
what they like and dislike. I don't lose all hope for the public, after all
most of the people on this group are "free thinkers". Keeping my fingers
crossed for the DE.


Marduke

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Elizabeth Falkner wrote in message <37E262E4...@home.com>...

>
>
>Willis McNelly wrote:
>> No news as yet on getting the DE back into print. We have a good lead,
>> however, so keep your fingers crossed.
>
>
>Willis dear,
>
>Any society which cancels the TV show "Crusade" even before it debuts
>and keeps crap like "Touched by an Angel" in the top ten doesn't WANT
>the DE.
>
>We have met the enemy and they are us.
>
>Elizabeth

A little paranoid (or just eccentric) aren't we?


daniel patrick duffy

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Willis McNelly wrote:
>
> In article <37E15262...@castles.com>, Dan Cline
> <danc...@castles.com> wrote:
>
> > Willis McNelly wrote:
> >
> > > In article <7rq9uj$7n1$1...@jaydee.iway.fr>, "boulay " <bou...@agf.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Which difference between the hardcover and the tradepaper of dune
> > > > encyclopedia ?
> > >
> > > First, the trade paperback edition of the DE had a print run of nearly
> > > 100,000. It has never had a second printing.
> > >
> > > There were two different hardback editions of the DE: The first was a
> > > small printing (under 3000 copies) of a regular trade edition, primarily
> > > aimed at library sales. The second was a smaller size (in physical
> > > dimensions but not in content) Science Fiction book club edition. I do not
> > > know the size of the SF book club printing.
> > >
> > > In addition, there was a British trade paperback printing and a German
> > > hard back in two volumes. I do not know the print run of either edition.
> > > ALL editions in the English language carried identical material, without
> > > change, including pagination. The British edition used the same plates as
> > > the American edition, as I understand it. The German edition carried no
> > > more nor no less material, the only differences being those of
> > > translation.
> > >
> > > To my certain knowledge I have never signed any hardback edition of the
> > > DE. If you wish your copy signed, see the most recent a.f.d FAQ.
> > >
> > > Will McNelly
> >
> > I've never even seen a Hard Back DE. Believe me I have looked, the
> freaking
> > paperbacks are hard enough to find. Speaking of which, is there any new
> news on
> > republishing the DE? Have you been able to contact Brian Herbert, or KJ? They
> > may be the key to getting the DE published again.
>
> No news as yet on getting the DE back into print. We have a good lead,
> however, so keep your fingers crossed.

Dr. McNelly,

What do you feel about a brand new Dune Encyclopedia based on articles
submitted by Dune fans? A "Peoples' DE" if you will. I am sure there
would be no shortage of submittals. It doesn’t even have to be a real
book. A web site with an appropriate (and ever growing) number of
pages, hyperlinks, etc. would be very popular. It may even interest web
advertisers...

Dan Duffy

John Kenny

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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daniel patrick duffy <thed...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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Dan,

What is little known about the DE is that the contributors were all (or
almost all) scholars of the highest order. These people are not credited
with the scope and depth of their study, skill, and intelligence. I don't
for one minute believe that even the afd faithful -- and there are some
smart buggers here -- could produce anything remotely approaching the work
that Willis directed. Gawd, what will be next: a trilogy of prequels written
by *mere* fans? Oh hell, I forgot, we get that on October sixth.

As to the good Doctor M. updating the original, I would do naked back flips
to see it happen. (Sam, no comments, thank you.) Sadly, Willis has said
(either directly or through Hitch) that he doesn't care to spend his
retirement engaged in such a demanding project -- and face it, the original
DE took YEARS to put together. True, Willis did express some interest in an
interactive CD-ROM based version of the original. Hitch put the kibosh on
that for fear of rampant pirating, a concern I equally share.


--
Best regards,
John

To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy -- and
dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful.
-- Robert Heinlein


Hitch

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Dear Daniel:

With advance apologies for being abrupt...No. Thank you anyway, however.
Website "novels" do NOT pay royalties.

Hitch

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