dragon pictures
Big Al
been to boris vallejo's website found some good ones but im trying to
find one to put on my signature. if you do e-mail me. thanks
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CT
I don't have any recommendations on picture sources, but I can tell
you that including a picture in your sig is not a good idea, by any
stretch of the imagination.
File attachments (on usenet, referred to as binaries) are frowned upon
except in groups specifically set aside for files (particularly
*.binary.* newsgroups, but not only them). Posting binaries to
non-binary groups can be grounds for having your service terminated at
worst, and at the least will make people filter you out (generally
referred to as killfiling, as in dropping the offender into a
killfile, from which none of the offender's posts escape). Getting
ignored makes it somewhat difficult to communicate with others, no?
Usenet is not the web, nor is e-mail. Plain text postings, except in
the relatively few groups covered by the comment above, are the
preferred method, and the way to stay out of most peoples' killfiles.
Now, if you'll pardon me, I'm going to have a word with
fly...@shaw.com's ISP about those 18 binaries he posted to a
non-binary group (this one)...
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Jen Kiwaku
> <sniped>
> Can some one help me find some very good dragon pictures? I've
> already been to boris vallejo's website found some good ones but
Well news:alt.binaries.dragonz has a large assortment of them. You can
also find some in the Vixen Controlled Library and in the Side7 Gallery
(http://vclart.net/vcl/Artists/ & http://www.side7.com/). I've lost track
of the which artists currently draw dragons, but good hunting just the
same ...
As for adding one to your signature ... Don't!
Besides to usual copyright infringement, it will just increase the size or
your posts and can only be done properly with HTML (which is a newsgroup
sin). As a email Sig ... maybe, but check you ISP's TOS first on email
posting size limits.
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Quoth KING_DR...@webtv.net (Big Al):
>can some one help me find some very good dragon pictures? Ive already
>been to boris vallejo's website found some good ones but im trying to
>find one to put on my signature. if you do e-mail me. thanks
Many e-mail and most news programs aren't designed to handle images --
e-mail and newsgroups are really text-only media, the latter in
particular, since any binary that's part of a signature will be
against the charters of many newsgroups. There's also the issue of
copyright -- if you use someone's art without permission, you're
actually breaking the law.
Your best bet, if you'd like a picture that will conform to standards
and reach the widest number of people, is to go for an ASCII-art
picture like the dragon's head in my sig. The folks at the
alt.ascii-art newsgroup are usually happy to allow others to use their
pictures, provided you leave in the initials of the artist, as I've
done.
Run a groups.google.com advanced search for the word "dragon" in the
subject line, and alt.ascii-art as the newsgroup. You'll see a bunch
of different ones to choose from. Don't forget to set your own
newsreader to a fixed-width font, though, or they won't display
properly.
HTH!
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Deranged Dragon
So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
I dare you to contact my ISP and tell them to kick me out of here.
I know what they would tell you: "We are sorry, but we simply do not
have the power to drop any customer who pays us big bucks for a
connection to the internet, so his web sites can remain online 24/7"
I operate a data storage site, and I have servers running 24/7, with
my ISP being the provider of the internet connection.
Now I do understand the idea of one asking someone else not to post
binaries to a non-binary group, but I cant see getting so upset over
someone offering pics of dragons here.
Maybe the other person was responding to someone's request for
dragons, but had no other way to post them except through here?
(I have yet to find another NG which hosts Dragon binaries).
Deranged Dragon
Yoou might also query someone who does ascii art, and see if they
would consent to do such a drawing for you.
I think most might do it for you, although some might want something
in exchange.
CT
(Deranged Dragon) wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:07:28 -0500, CT <noh...@radparker.com> wrote:
> >I don't have any recommendations on picture sources, but I can tell
> >you that including a picture in your sig is not a good idea, by any
> >stretch of the imagination.
> >
> >File attachments (on usenet, referred to as binaries) are frowned upon
> >except in groups specifically set aside for files (particularly
> >*.binary.* newsgroups, but not only them). Posting binaries to
> >non-binary groups can be grounds for having your service terminated at
> >worst, and at the least will make people filter you out (generally
> >referred to as killfiling, as in dropping the offender into a
> >killfile, from which none of the offender's posts escape). Getting
> >ignored makes it somewhat difficult to communicate with others, no?
> >
> >Usenet is not the web, nor is e-mail. Plain text postings, except in
> >the relatively few groups covered by the comment above, are the
> >preferred method, and the way to stay out of most peoples' killfiles.
> >
> >Now, if you'll pardon me, I'm going to have a word with
> >fly...@shaw.com's ISP about those 18 binaries he posted to a
> >non-binary group (this one)...
>
> So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
> enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
Not to this newsgroup. There are multiple places you CAN post it,
though, and provide a text-only pointer to it here.
alt.binaries.dragonz (IIRC on the name) is a good place to start, if
you don't have web space handy.
> I dare you to contact my ISP and tell them to kick me out of here.
> I know what they would tell you: "We are sorry, but we simply do not
> have the power to drop any customer who pays us big bucks for a
> connection to the internet, so his web sites can remain online 24/7"
> I operate a data storage site, and I have servers running 24/7, with
> my ISP being the provider of the internet connection.
Sure, they can say that. They can also slowly become an intranet if
the abuse continues. Usenet, and the internet in general, is a
cooperative medium. People who are bad net.neighbors tend to get
shunned (UDPs for usenet, and SPEWS <www.spews.org> and various other
blocklists for e-mail being two of many examples of how people go
about refusing traffic from bad neighbors who won't police their own
households).
> Now I do understand the idea of one asking someone else not to post
> binaries to a non-binary group, but I cant see getting so upset over
> someone offering pics of dragons here.
Binaries take up a lot of disk space. More than a few usenet server
admins will, if they think a group is a "stealth binary group", drop
that group, especially if those admins are maintaining a text-only
server because of bandwidth and/or disk space costs.
> Maybe the other person was responding to someone's request for
> dragons, but had no other way to post them except through here?
> (I have yet to find another NG which hosts Dragon binaries).
See above, regarding alt.binaries.dragonz. That you don't personally
know about something doesn't make it nonexistent.
Also, internet access, or any particular aspect of that access, is not
a right. There is nothing that says someone MUST be able to get on
the internet in general, nor be able to post things to any server
(web, usenet, or e-mail). See above, about the cooperative nature of
the online world.
Pyros Rutilicus
Dragon) hissed:
<snip>
> So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
> enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
You "can" in that you are able to do so. However, please don't--it's
extremely bad netiquette.
> I dare you to contact my ISP and tell them to kick me out of here.
> I know what they would tell you: "We are sorry, but we simply do not
> have the power to drop any customer who pays us big bucks for a
> connection to the internet, so his web sites can remain online 24/7"
> I operate a data storage site, and I have servers running 24/7, with
> my ISP being the provider of the internet connection.
Some ISP's actually do listen, and have contacted users on this group for
something as simple as profanity. As for those that don't, as CT mentioned
there are alternatives for dealing with them--in the extreme case, isolating
them completely.
> Now I do understand the idea of one asking someone else not to post
> binaries to a non-binary group, but I cant see getting so upset over
> someone offering pics of dragons here.
Offer them, sure, but don't post them directly. Especially if you're new to
the group (or Usenet in general, since the "binaries only in binary groups"
rule is fairly common) and don't know the rules, err on the side of caution.
Besides, if one person starts posting a few binaries here, then everyone
starts--and then newsservers start dropping our group due to it having too
many binaries. Then nobody can get to AFD.
> Maybe the other person was responding to someone's request for
> dragons, but had no other way to post them except through here?
There are a practically infinite number of free Web hosts. Upload pictures
to a site, send just the URL to the group. Easy. There's also the "I have
some pictures I'd like to share, what would be a good way to do that?"
approach.
> (I have yet to find another NG which hosts Dragon binaries).
alt.binaries.dragonz, although my newsserver apparenly has ceased to carry
that. Of course, there's always alt.binaries.pictures.misc. Also,
currently the most common method of displaying pictures is to throw them up
on a website.
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Flame Stryke
Deranged Dragon wrote:
> So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
> enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
> I dare you to contact my ISP and tell them to kick me out of here.
> I know what they would tell you: "We are sorry, but we simply do not
> have the power to drop any customer who pays us big bucks for a
> connection to the internet, so his web sites can remain online 24/7"
Actually, an ISP can do many things and still keep the customer. For
example, they could killfile all your posts to this newsgroup before they
get spawned to other newsgroups, or ban you from newsgroups altogether.
They could also drop this newsgroup altogether as well.
>
> I operate a data storage site, and I have servers running 24/7, with
> my ISP being the provider of the internet connection.
> Now I do understand the idea of one asking someone else not to post
> binaries to a non-binary group, but I cant see getting so upset over
> someone offering pics of dragons here.
Offering the pics, no. But posting them here, yes. As I pointed out
earlier in the thread, it could caust the group to be dropped from several
text-only newsservers, among other things.
>
> Maybe the other person was responding to someone's request for
> dragons, but had no other way to post them except through here?
> (I have yet to find another NG which hosts Dragon binaries).
There are other methods of distributing said data without posting them.
But, yes, dragon binary newsgroups _are_ rare, I haven't found any at all,
actually.
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Vincent
<pyr...@chasethedragonSPAM.comORIWILLEATYOU> wrote:
Most of my responses are aimed at the newbie and not at the responses
posted by Deranged Dragon or Pyros (I'm on you side on this). I can't
see the original message as my news server just dropped all but two
messages in this group...now I know why...
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:37:36 GMT. deranged...@netscape.net (Deranged
>Dragon) hissed:
>
><snip>
>> So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
>> enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
>
>You "can" in that you are able to do so. However, please don't--it's
>extremely bad netiquette.
I dare say that politeness is not this persons most developed of
traits.
>
>> I dare you to contact my ISP and tell them to kick me out of here.
>> I know what they would tell you: "We are sorry, but we simply do not
>> have the power to drop any customer who pays us big bucks for a
>> connection to the internet, so his web sites can remain online 24/7"
>> I operate a data storage site, and I have servers running 24/7, with
>> my ISP being the provider of the internet connection.
Big happy pile of Dragon poo, and whopy ding sh**.
With surprisingly little complaint your isp just might be persuaded to
no longer subscribe to afd, your not the only one with...connections
>
>
>Some ISP's actually do listen, and have contacted users on this group for
>something as simple as profanity. As for those that don't, as CT mentioned
>there are alternatives for dealing with them--in the extreme case, isolating
>them completely.
>> Now I do understand the idea of one asking someone else not to post
>> binaries to a non-binary group, but I cant see getting so upset over
>> someone offering pics of dragons here.
And yet you don't seem to grasp the fact that you should't have posted
them in the first place...Step one---lurk, step two--ask for faq. step
three--dissrequard faq and get upset when flames arrive.
>
>Offer them, sure, but don't post them directly. Especially if you're new to
>the group (or Usenet in general, since the "binaries only in binary groups"
>rule is fairly common) and don't know the rules, err on the side of caution.
>Besides, if one person starts posting a few binaries here, then everyone
>starts--and then newsservers start dropping our group due to it having too
>many binaries. Then nobody can get to AFD.
>
Oh what a sad day that would be...Today only two posts came thru my
server...Gee I wonder why !
>> Maybe the other person was responding to someone's request for
>> dragons, but had no other way to post them except through here?
>
>There are a practically infinite number of free Web hosts. Upload pictures
>to a site, send just the URL to the group. Easy. There's also the "I have
>some pictures I'd like to share, what would be a good way to do that?"
>approach.
>
Or better yet, you could post them on your own servers !
>> (I have yet to find another NG which hosts Dragon binaries).
>
>alt.binaries.dragonz, although my newsserver apparenly has ceased to carry
>that. Of course, there's always alt.binaries.pictures.misc. Also,
>currently the most common method of displaying pictures is to throw them up
>on a website.
Oh, yes go a head and post to alt.binaries.dragonz, feel free to post
lots and lots, without reading the faq there...That place is...not
very friendly...Go a head, I dare you :p
Sorry for the ranting, but I seem to have nothing else to read in my
most favorite group...Grrr.
Also, to whom ever started this mess, So long as you, from now on,
follow the 'rules' you are still welcome Here by me, Now take this
rubber chicken and smack yourself silly with it and we will cal it
even :)
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(Deranged Dragon) pondered, and then scribbled:
>>File attachments (on usenet, referred to as binaries) are frowned upon
>>except in groups specifically set aside for files (particularly
>>*.binary.* newsgroups, but not only them). Posting binaries to
>>non-binary groups can be grounds for having your service terminated at
>>worst, and at the least will make people filter you out (generally
>>referred to as killfiling, as in dropping the offender into a
>>killfile, from which none of the offender's posts escape). Getting
>>ignored makes it somewhat difficult to communicate with others, no?
>
>So what you are saying, is that if I come across a pic I think is good
>enough to share with everyone here; I cant post it?
You can post it, but what CT says is true. Whether or not your ISP
will terminate your service, a lot of us WILL killfile you for posting
binaries here.
I realize our AFD Home page is down right now, and I don't happen to
have a copy of our AFD FAQ to post, but it is asked that binaries not
be posted here. If someone needs to post binaries, there are specific
newsgroups that were created just for the posting of binaries.
If you come across a pic that you want to share with everyone here,
either host it on your own website or contact one of us with a
website, and we'll happily host it for you. ;)
*huggles*
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> Don't forget to set your own
> newsreader to a fixed-width font, though, or they won't
display
> properly.
I'm running Outlook Express (I know, horrid). I can change
the font size to 'fixed' but whenever I change the message
I'm viewing, it changes back to normal font. Does anyone
know how to set 'fixed' so it stays 'fixed'?
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"Dćmon" wrote:
> I'm running Outlook Express (I know, horrid). I can change
> the font size to 'fixed' but whenever I change the message
> I'm viewing, it changes back to normal font. Does anyone
> know how to set 'fixed' so it stays 'fixed'?
There should be an option in your Preferences or Options menu that will
allow you to set the default font you read messages in. I use Outlook
now, so I don't know much about OE for that sort of thing..... And I
don't use it for newsgroups (I can't find a place to put in newsgroups)
so I never have that problem.
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