WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Lord Flame Stryke
Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no authentication) but when
I put a passkey on it, it fails. It doesn't reboot constantly, but it
does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop. The laptop can't access the internet
(but my ipod can with the same settings) and when I try to open a
briefcase file on my desktop to sync with my laptop, the router stops
broadcasting and the laptop loses its local connection.....
I'm ready to tear the router to pieces right now..... But as it's the
only one I've got, that's not an option right now..... I just want to
curl up into a corner and gibber until the problem is resolved.....
Everything was working fine until it just suddenly decided to start
rebooting constantly. Then I reset it (thanks, Daf) and it strangely
reset the firmware (which I have since upgraded again, twice, to no
avail), but still screwed up endlessly.
I think I'm going to end up setting up a "Buy Flame Stryke a new
router" fund, as with the cost of medications added to all my other
costs, the next time I'll be able to afford a router will be somewhere
on the far side of never..... I could go without one, except for the
Wii, ipod, and laptop which require it.....
If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love to
hear from you.....
Lord Flame Stryke
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Rhainor
> Now I hate my router -- it's driving me even more insane than ever!!
>
> Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no authentication) but when
> I put a passkey on it, it fails. It doesn't reboot constantly, but it
> does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop. The laptop can't access the internet
> (but my ipod can with the same settings) and when I try to open a
> briefcase file on my desktop to sync with my laptop, the router stops
> broadcasting and the laptop loses its local connection.....
<snip>
What brand is it?
> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love to
> hear from you.....
I can usually get 'em to cooperate, but only if I have physical access
to it.
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Kalos Kalyre
<snip>
> I think I'm going to end up setting up a "Buy Flame Stryke a new
> router" fund, as with the cost of medications added to all my other
> costs, the next time I'll be able to afford a router will be somewhere
> on the far side of never..... I could go without one, except for the
> Wii, ipod, and laptop which require it.....
I could pitch in a bit of money for that.
I've had a good experience so far with the Apple AirPort Extreme I got
earlier this year
(http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB763LL/A/AirPort-Extreme). It's
relatively expensive, but it works reliably, unlike some others I've tried.
> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love to
> hear from you.....
Perhaps you should try leaving authentication off and using other
methods to secure your network. Methods such as turning the router off
when you know you won't need it for a while, and using MAC address
filtering (if your router supports it) to help prevent unauthorized
people from connecting.
Simon Richard Clarkstone
> Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no authentication) but when
> I put a passkey on it, it fails. It doesn't reboot constantly, but it
> does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop. The laptop can't access the internet
> (but my ipod can with the same settings) and when I try to open a
> briefcase file on my desktop to sync with my laptop, the router stops
> broadcasting and the laptop loses its local connection.....
How well does it work wired?
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Draco18s
dear...@comcast.net says...
> > If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love to
> > hear from you.....
>
> Perhaps you should try leaving authentication off and using other
> methods to secure your network. Methods such as turning the router off
> when you know you won't need it for a while, and using MAC address
> filtering (if your router supports it) to help prevent unauthorized
> people from connecting.
Also set it to not broadcast the network ID. It forces anyone who wants
to connect to go "Hey! Are you out there network LFS@Home!?" Rather
than the router going, "Hey buddy! Yeah you, I'm a network. LFS@Home.
Wanna connect? I got candy."
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Draco18s
s.r.cla...@dunelm.org.uk says...
Speaking of wired networks and networking issues...
The router we have right now my desktop has a wired connection to. When
my desktop boots from a cold start (only otherwise tested from a
Hibernate) (and this is where it gets weird) the ethernet card detects
TWO networks over the wire: LLL1 (the home network) and an unidentified
network. Due to this dual connection, and the fact that the
driver/windows/software has no idea how to handle multiple networks on a
wire I can't choose one, like I can with a wireless network, which means
that I can't connect to the internet (of course, I can connect to the
router JUST FINE THANKS). I have to disable and reenable the network
device for it to "work properly."
Restarting the router/FiOs modem hasn't solved the issue, and I'd rather
not do a full reset (it'd be a pain in the ass to set up the settings
again).
My guess is that there is some kind of interference, but the ethernet
cable /is/ shielded, and as far as I can tell doesn't run parallel to
other wires (it runs diagonally across the dining room, then along a
wall/bookcase in the Library--extra cable loop--and through a door (90
degree turn) to my desktop. There are wires in the basement running all
over the damn place, but generally, they don't follow this same path:
they either run down the floor beams or perpendicularly through them
(some of the beams seem to be relatives of swiss cheese, hehe).
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:3uqdnT9iBpVxt0bX...@earthlink.com:
>> Now I hate my router -- it's driving me even more insane than ever!!
>> Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no authentication) but
>> when I put a passkey on it, it fails. It doesn't reboot constantly,
>> but it does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop. The laptop can't access the
>> internet (but my ipod can with the same settings) and when I try to
>> open a briefcase file on my desktop to sync with my laptop, the
>> router stops broadcasting and the laptop loses its local
>> connection.....
> <snip>
> What brand is it?
Dlink DIR-655.
>> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love
>> to hear from you.....
> I can usually get 'em to cooperate, but only if I have physical access
> to it.
Please don't offer to take a baseball bat to it, it's all I've got for
now.....
Lord Flame Stryke
news:hbfvdm$5jf$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>> I think I'm going to end up setting up a "Buy Flame Stryke a new
>> router" fund, as with the cost of medications added to all my other
>> costs, the next time I'll be able to afford a router will be
>> somewhere on the far side of never..... I could go without one,
>> except for the Wii, ipod, and laptop which require it.....
> I could pitch in a bit of money for that.
> I've had a good experience so far with the Apple AirPort Extreme I got
> earlier this year
> (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB763LL/A/AirPort-Extreme). It's
> relatively expensive, but it works reliably, unlike some others I've
> tried.
Does it work with non-Apple stuff? The only thing I've got that's Apple
is my Ipod..... And Itunes doesn't work well on my PC..... About one
time in 300 when I plug in my Ipod, it'll allow me to sync stuff with
it, every other time it screws up.
>> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love
>> to hear from you.....
> Perhaps you should try leaving authentication off and using other
> methods to secure your network. Methods such as turning the router off
> when you know you won't need it for a while, and using MAC address
> filtering (if your router supports it) to help prevent unauthorized
> people from connecting.
The router does support MAC address filtering, but it's a pain to
constantly add new MAC addresses to the list..... And I don't think it
allowed my laptop to access it to get its MAC address last time I tried
that.....
Lord Flame Stryke
news:MPG.25470a4aa...@free.teranews.com:
>> > If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love
>> > to hear from you.....
>> Perhaps you should try leaving authentication off and using other
>> methods to secure your network. Methods such as turning the router
>> off when you know you won't need it for a while, and using MAC
>> address filtering (if your router supports it) to help prevent
>> unauthorized people from connecting.
> Also set it to not broadcast the network ID. It forces anyone who
> wants to connect to go "Hey! Are you out there network LFS@Home!?"
> Rather than the router going, "Hey buddy! Yeah you, I'm a network.
> LFS@Home. Wanna connect? I got candy."
That can work..... I'll have to test it with my Ipod (it doesn't like
networks that aren't boradcast) and see, and I've also got to try to
remember how to get the Ipod to forget the network, or it'll try
entering the key (which is currently a 256-bit key, which is really
annoying to enter on an Ipod, I might add.....)
Lord Flame Stryke
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:meednU8BJqf1ZEHX...@giganews.com:
When it reboots, I lose my connection on the wired ports (printer and
desktop -- need to reapply for an IP address). Other than that, it
seems to work fairly decently.....
Kalos Kalyre
> Kalos Kalyre <dear...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:hbfvdm$5jf$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>>> I think I'm going to end up setting up a "Buy Flame Stryke a new
>>> router" fund, as with the cost of medications added to all my other
>>> costs, the next time I'll be able to afford a router will be
>>> somewhere on the far side of never..... I could go without one,
>>> except for the Wii, ipod, and laptop which require it.....
>> I could pitch in a bit of money for that.
>> I've had a good experience so far with the Apple AirPort Extreme I got
>> earlier this year
>> (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB763LL/A/AirPort-Extreme). It's
>> relatively expensive, but it works reliably, unlike some others I've
>> tried.
>
> Does it work with non-Apple stuff? The only thing I've got that's Apple
> is my Ipod..... And Itunes doesn't work well on my PC..... About one
> time in 300 when I plug in my Ipod, it'll allow me to sync stuff with
> it, every other time it screws up.
I've used it with Windows, Mac, and Linux computers, my Nintendo Wii,
and my Ipod Touch when I had one. Its setup utility only works on Mac
and Windows, but aside from that I don't have any problems using
non-Apple stuff.
Lee
> Dlink DIR-655.
>
I have one of these which has been fine, though people some report
firmware issues (especially the rebooting issue) and some units/firmware
combos seem to work better than others.
A read through these forums may be helpful:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/dlink
Lee
Rhainor
> Rhainor <rha...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:3uqdnT9iBpVxt0bX...@earthlink.com:
>
>>> Now I hate my router -- it's driving me even more insane than ever!!
>>> Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no authentication) but
>>> when I put a passkey on it, it fails. It doesn't reboot constantly,
>>> but it does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop. The laptop can't access the
>>> internet (but my ipod can with the same settings) and when I try to
>>> open a briefcase file on my desktop to sync with my laptop, the
>>> router stops broadcasting and the laptop loses its local
>>> connection.....
>> <snip>
>> What brand is it?
>
> Dlink DIR-655.
There's yer problem. D-link is generally bottom-of-the-barrel cheap-o
quality. Stick to Linksys or Netgear in the future.
>>> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love
>>> to hear from you.....
>> I can usually get 'em to cooperate, but only if I have physical access
>> to it.
>
> Please don't offer to take a baseball bat to it, it's all I've got for
> now.....
Heh. No, "percussive maintenance" is a last resort, and only for my own
stuff.
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Azhren
How about re(size-whatever-you-wear)boot it? Left or right, your choice.
Azhren
Lord Flame Stryke
news:nAzEm.1066$5w5...@text.news.virginmedia.com:
Thanks, the most common advice in the forums is to get a different brand
of router, strangely enough };=8�
But if it keeps screwing up like this, that's what I might end up doing.
Lord Flame Stryke
news:F6SdnSl_xdJl8X7X...@earthlink.com:
>>>> Now I hate my router -- it's driving me even more insane than
>>>> ever!! Now, it works fine when I've got open wi-fi (no
>>>> authentication) but when I put a passkey on it, it fails. It
>>>> doesn't reboot constantly, but it does *&^%$#@! up with my laptop.
>>>> The laptop can't access the internet (but my ipod can with the same
>>>> settings) and when I try to open a briefcase file on my desktop to
>>>> sync with my laptop, the router stops broadcasting and the laptop
>>>> loses its local connection.....
>>> <snip>
>>> What brand is it?
>> Dlink DIR-655.
> There's yer problem. D-link is generally bottom-of-the-barrel cheap-o
> quality. Stick to Linksys or Netgear in the future.
Well, it wasn'tthe cheapest router out there, nor the most expensive, so
it should have been better than bottom line. And for the longest time,
it was. But it's only a couple of years old (3 at best) so it shouldn't
be nearing the end of its lifestyle.....
>>>> If anyone knows how to fix a router that's being retarded, I'd love
>>>> to hear from you.....
>>> I can usually get 'em to cooperate, but only if I have physical
>>> access to it.
>> Please don't offer to take a baseball bat to it, it's all I've got
>> for now.....
> Heh. No, "percussive maintenance" is a last resort, and only for my
> own stuff.
Well, I might send it to you, after I've upgraded from it..... };=8�
Lord Flame Stryke
news:ZrPEm.49771$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
>>> Please don't offer to take a baseball bat to it, it's all I've got
>>> for now.....
>> Heh. No, "percussive maintenance" is a last resort, and only for my
>> own stuff.
> How about re(size-whatever-you-wear)boot it? Left or right, your
> choice.
Not until I can replace it.....
Lord Flame Stryke
>>> I could pitch in a bit of money for that.
>>> I've had a good experience so far with the Apple AirPort Extreme I
>>> got earlier this year
>>> (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB763LL/A/AirPort-Extreme). It's
>>> relatively expensive, but it works reliably, unlike some others I've
>>> tried.
>> Does it work with non-Apple stuff? The only thing I've got that's
>> Apple is my Ipod..... And Itunes doesn't work well on my PC.....
>> About one time in 300 when I plug in my Ipod, it'll allow me to sync
>> stuff with it, every other time it screws up.
> I've used it with Windows, Mac, and Linux computers, my Nintendo Wii,
> and my Ipod Touch when I had one. Its setup utility only works on Mac
> and Windows, but aside from that I don't have any problems using
> non-Apple stuff.
The link doesn't work, and I can't find it in their quick links. But
I'll take a look at Future Shop and Best Buy to see what I can find.....
Draco18s
rha...@gmail.com says...
> Heh. No, "percussive maintenance" is a last resort, and only for my own
> stuff.
I use "percussive maintenance" right now, almost all the time, but only
because the fan in my PSU has permanent dust in it and it buzzes quite
loudly. A good whack generally sets the fan into a spin that avoids the
buildup.
Unfortunately my BIOS fan is starting to have the same problem, and is
MUCH harder to replace (and whack).
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:MPG.255d3b984...@free.teranews.com:
>> Heh. No, "percussive maintenance" is a last resort, and only for my
>> own stuff.
>
> I use "percussive maintenance" right now, almost all the time, but
> only because the fan in my PSU has permanent dust in it and it buzzes
> quite loudly. A good whack generally sets the fan into a spin that
> avoids the buildup.
>
> Unfortunately my BIOS fan is starting to have the same problem, and is
> MUCH harder to replace (and whack).
>
Well, my "Buy LFS a new router" fund has changed, I think, into a "Buy
LFS a new computer" fund..... I was getting horrible driver errors on
my desktop, until last time it died so bad that all I got was a screech
from the speakers until I turned it off. Now, it won't turn back
on..... I've tried to take it apart and put it back toether, but that
didn't work..... So, I'm down to a laptop until I can afford to buy a
new desktop, I think..... So, percussive maintenance seems to be a good
idea thus far.....
Draco18s
Flame...@Gmail.com says...
If its not working don't break it.
Er...wait, that's not how it went...
Simon Richard Clarkstone
Is it still in warranty? For a long time my laptop was running an
image-based programming environment and a many-tabbed Firefox session
and Thunderbird, leading to loads of thrashing of the hard drive, which
eventually gave up, acquiring lots of bad blocks (I had sufficient
backups). I managed to get it fixed just within warranty; the shop I
purchased it from even gave me an extra copy of the receipt.
If you can get to the BIOS config screen, try booting from a liveCD or a
thumbdrive version of Linux.
If you can borrow another computer, try swapping parts around to see
what is broken. OTOH that might be a bad idea if there is a power
supply problem, because power supply problems can actually break things.
I am semi-tempted to send you a $100 or so to help.
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:MPG.256324033...@free.teranews.com:
>> > I use "percussive maintenance" right now, almost all the time, but
>> > only because the fan in my PSU has permanent dust in it and it
>> > buzzes quite loudly. A good whack generally sets the fan into a
>> > spin that avoids the buildup.
>> > Unfortunately my BIOS fan is starting to have the same problem, and
>> > is MUCH harder to replace (and whack).
>> Well, my "Buy LFS a new router" fund has changed, I think, into a
>> "Buy LFS a new computer" fund..... I was getting horrible driver
>> errors on my desktop, until last time it died so bad that all I got
>> was a screech from the speakers until I turned it off. Now, it won't
>> turn back on..... I've tried to take it apart and put it back
>> toether, but that didn't work..... So, I'm down to a laptop until I
>> can afford to buy a new desktop, I think..... So, percussive
>> maintenance seems to be a good idea thus far.....
> If its not working don't break it.
> Er...wait, that's not how it went...
Well, it's well and truly broken now..... I need another video card to
see if everything's all right except the video cards, or another mobo to
see if the video cards are good and the rest of it is broken..... But,
going that far anyway, would mean that I might as well go the rest of
the way and just get a brand new system..... I think it was Microsoft,
though, breaking all other versions of Windows to force people to
upgrade to 7..... But that's just speculation, based on the fact that
it screwed up after endless updates (seriously, I'd do updates that
required a reboot, then there were new updates that required a reboot
immediately after -- why?!?) and I've got no concrete proof of that;
and, in fact, my laptop, which is also Vista Ultimate, is still
working.....
Lord Flame Stryke
>> Well, my "Buy LFS a new router" fund has changed, I think, into a
>> "Buy LFS a new computer" fund..... I was getting horrible driver
>> errors on my desktop, until last time it died so bad that all I got
>> was a screech from the speakers until I turned it off. Now, it won't
>> turn back on..... I've tried to take it apart and put it back
>> toether, but that didn't work..... So, I'm down to a laptop until I
>> can afford to buy a new desktop, I think..... So, percussive
>> maintenance seems to be a good idea thus far.....
> Is it still in warranty? For a long time my laptop was running an
> image-based programming environment and a many-tabbed Firefox session
> and Thunderbird, leading to loads of thrashing of the hard drive,
> which eventually gave up, acquiring lots of bad blocks (I had
> sufficient backups). I managed to get it fixed just within warranty;
> the shop I purchased it from even gave me an extra copy of the
> receipt.
The HDD is not under warranty. Everything else still is (I bought the
4-year warranty option when I got the system) but it's a homebuilt
system, not store-assembled, so I'd have to try to convince them that
all the components need to be replaced.....
> If you can get to the BIOS config screen, try booting from a liveCD or
> a thumbdrive version of Linux.
I can get a blank screen, does that count....? The HDD light comes on
and stays on when nothing except the main HDD and 1 video card are
connected (or just 1 video card -- either video card -- and no HDD), and
the front panel buttons elicit no response (I even downloaded the MoBo
manual to ensure they were correctly connected, even though it was
working fine before, but you never know.....)
> If you can borrow another computer, try swapping parts around to see
> what is broken. OTOH that might be a bad idea if there is a power
> supply problem, because power supply problems can actually break
> things.
No other computer, I am the guy who's got another computer (laptop), all
my other components were recycled when I got this one, as they were worn
out....
> I am semi-tempted to send you a $100 or so to help.
I would love that, but unless I get enough of a response to get me
enough to get a new computer (unlikely, given the current economy) I'd
just have to send it back..... This one cost me about $1300 when I got
it, and a buddy's cost $1700, so things aren't in any way cheap around
here.....