:)
Retler
Happened in Huma's time. Why not in the Fifth Age?
: Do you have any idea what
: would happen to a lone female in an army of Solamnic males?!?!
She'd never be without a seat on the bus?
: She would not be untouched for very long, or maybe the knights consider
: that 'dishonorable.'
Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
: I tried, but I really cannot picture a female along the lines of a knight.
I can. I've had my head pounded by a few.
: Maybe because I'm so narrow minded. I don't know.
Yup.
--
Why is it that when I do finally get around to creating a .sig file, I
can't think of a single witty thing to say in it?
The Wraith
<< Do you have any idea what
would happen to a lone female in an army of Solamnic males?!?! She would not
be untouched for very long, or maybe the knights consider that 'dishonorable.'
>>
Ah, I see you are taking the stance that the Knights of Solamnia are truly
corrupt. (Or do you have a different definition of Lawful Good or honourable
than I do?)
Female Solamnic knights have been around in small numbers since the War of the
Lance. The *true* outrage is Linsha Majere--the first woman who isn't even a
Solamnian to be admitted into the Orders. (You can read all about her in
"Heroes of Defiance" and "Citadel of Light.")
Steve Miller
Who Takes Full Responsibility for Linsha
That's what I'm agreeing on. That's mainly what my point is about.
<< That's what I'm agreeing on. That's mainly what my point is about. >>
Well, then we actually *don't* agree. :)
I think Linsha's pretty damn cool.
Steve Miller
>> The *true* outrage is Linsha Majere--the first woman who isn't even a
>>Solamnian to be admitted into the Orders. (You can read all about her in
>>"Heroes of Defiance" and "Citadel of Light.")
>
>That's what I'm agreeing on. That's mainly what my point is about.
you didn't say that. you ranted that "women" should not be in the
solamnic orders.
next time state that you didn't agree that someone who isn't solamnic
or has solamnic background becoming a knight is wrong.
cassandra
______________________________________________________________________
"the children of the night... what beautiful music they make"
darkness... hidden from the eyes... absence of light...
http://www.cyberbeach.net/~spirit
______________________________________________________________________
Name one place where half-elves ARE welcome. It's part and parcel of being a
half-elf.
> Moreover, that would be scary to see a chivalrous female.
Why is that scary?
> But a Solamnic Knight female. Do you have any idea what
>would happen to a lone female in an army of Solamnic males?!?!
Nothing would happen. She'd be just fine.
> She would not
>be untouched for very long, or maybe the knights consider that
>'dishonorable.'
These are the Knights of Solamnia we're talking about, not the Marine Corps.
"My honor is my Life" remember? They are always polite and chivalrous to women.
Women in their own ranks makes no difference. A female Knight will get along
just fine.
>I tried, but I really cannot picture a female along the lines of a knight.
>Maybe because I'm so narrow minded.
Yeah, that's probably it. (:
Wulfgang
Sikk'et Hul Goblin Warrior
"We goblins do NOT go screaming across open fields charging adventuring
parties. Why do so many DMs assume we do that? That's just dumb..."
Well, Linsha's deceased uncles, Tanin and Strum, broke the "non-solamnic"
barrier before she was born when they became Knights.
Linsha is pretty cool. I've always only had a hard time with her and her
brother's names. (Pa)Lin-(U)sha and U(sha)-(Pa)lin. Their parents didn't try
very hard to name them, did they? (:
<< Well, Linsha's deceased uncles, Tanin and Strum, broke the "non-solamnic"
barrier before she was born when they became Knights. >>
You are absolutely correct. My memory played tricks on me. She was the first
female to become a Rose knight, at least as far as she or anyone else
remembers. The fact that she wasn't even Solamnian made it an even bigger deal.
I'm getting forgetful in my old age.
<< Linsha is pretty cool. I've always only had a hard time with her and her
brother's names. (Pa)Lin-(U)sha and U(sha)-(Pa)lin. Their parents didn't try
very hard to name them, did they? (: >>
Her name actually arose out of a discussion we (Sue Cook, Steven Brown, and I)
were having about Abanasinian naming conventions. Perhaps we went a bit
overboard... :)
Steve Miller
<< Ever occur to anybody that they could publish a 5th Age lexicon just so
we wouldn't have to buy every product (each one costing about $(Oz)24)
just to get the stats of the characters? Might even help them lose the
'T$R' tag. >>
Naw.
Steve Miller
Ever occur to anybody that they could publish a 5th Age lexicon just so
we wouldn't have to buy every product (each one costing about $(Oz)24)
just to get the stats of the characters? Might even help them lose the
'T$R' tag.
Rohan Tolstrup
I'm so sorry. Next time, I might mention it. Or maybe not.
Ah, so there was a plan behind it. Interesting. The custom for naming children
in Abanasinia is to combine the parents' names in some way. And here I thought
you guys just got lazy. heehee
yah right, you already screwed yourself over in your last post, might
as well quit while your ahead
Dagger
Song of Death
>> "the children of the night... what beautiful music they make"
>>darkness... hidden from the eyes... absence of light...
>
>I'm so sorry. Next time, I might mention it. Or maybe not.
I would, seems you made lots of ppl including myself pretty upset this
time, unless that is you want/like flames
Dagger
Song of Death
I have some advice for you. Why don't you just shut up. Really. So what if I
make a big mistake. Do you not have anything better to do than reply with two
posts bitching and complaining. Why do you do that? Does it make you feel
better wasting time like that? And if you're upset my mistake....get over it.
So like I said, shut up. Most people already discarded the subject or moved on
to something else. Hope you do the same thing.
>I have some advice for you. Why don't you just shut up. Really. So what if I
>make a big mistake. Do you not have anything better to do than reply with two
>posts bitching and complaining. Why do you do that? Does it make you feel
>better wasting time like that? And if you're upset my mistake....get over it.
>So like I said, shut up. Most people already discarded the subject or moved on
>to something else. Hope you do the same thing.
This flame was unnecessary, and entirely idiotic. Jex, you would do
well to take your own advice, and shut your loud hole up. You came
across as very sexist - hell, that's how I took it - so you're damn
well going to piss some people off.
Black Drake
http://www.serve.com/guilds/ranma/
gui...@mail.serve.com
>open hk.sig
"'We'?" Ranma asked, confused.
"Oh," Tarou said, pulling up a gasping human Ryoga from under the
water, who sucked in air gratefully and wrung the water out of his
bandanna in irritation. "It's just Ranma, Ryoga. Nothing to worry
about."
Ryoga punched him. "You could have told me sooner, you idiot! I
had to hold my breath that whole time!"
-from Mirror Images, chapter 1
[hk.sig; errors-0; file terminating]
I can say the same thing about you and your post.
Actually if you look back I believe I replied to 3 of your postings
stating how much of an asshole you were, and how your opinions matched
your attitude:) but then again, I might have miscounted it was like 4am
peace to the planets, hope ya find a brain, and I'll get over it, or
discard it whenever I choose, seems like you dont have anything better
to do then write me and tell me to shut up, I mean gosh grow up:)
Dagger
Song of Death
Thank you mister Drake fellow, I greatly appreciate your backing in
this issue and I'm sure I'm not the only one who was upset by the
shocking 'problems' stated in his post
Dagger
Song of Death
really if you think about it, what was said could be applied generally
to everyones post, but only the ones with brains know that it was
rightly posted to you:) maybe my opinion is wrong on this matter..but
alas I'm only a mortal
Dagger
Song of Death
>> [...] You came
>>across as very sexist - hell, that's how I took it - so you're damn
>>well going to piss some people off.
>
>I can say the same thing about you and your post.
You could, but you'd be wrong, because my post was in no way sexist.
That's not what I really meant. Sexist thing wasn't really meant to be
serious, mind you. By the way, what ever happened to Torvail?
>>>I can say the same thing about you and your post.
>>
>>You could, but you'd be wrong, because my post was in no way sexist.
>
>That's not what I really meant. Sexist thing wasn't really meant to be
>serious, mind you.
Then why'd you post it?
>By the way, what ever happened to Torvail?
Changed my name.
Septentrionalis Ventus
SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU MAIL SHOVENIST PIG!!
Ahh---but you didn't capitalise....
kinthalas
<kint...@geocities.com>
Dr Jex wrote in message <199804180122...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>>dr...@aol.com (Dr Jex) wrote:
>>
>>>>>learn to spell 'male' and 'chauvinist'
>>>>
>>>>Learn to capitalize and punctuate.
>>>
>>>Shut up. I wasn't addressing you. I find it more convenient to not
>>capitalize
>>>and punctuate when posting on the newsgroup.
>>
>>Perhaps Joyner finds it more convenient not to bother to check his/her
>>spelling when posting on the newsgroup. Didn't pause to consider
>>that, did you?
>>
>>Septentrionalis Ventus
>
>are you a girl? If not, then you are the biggest prick I have ever met
>anywhere. If you are a girl, then it's understandable.
>And Joyner definitely mispelled those words, plus he called me a male
>chauvinistic pig.
*cough* wasn't it a Mail SHOVENIST pig? :) 37 Posts guys, *APPLAUD*.
Bickering about spelling, capitalization, sexist remarks regarding a female
knight(who would probably run through any "knight" who should try to do
un-knightly things to her), tarnishing the views of the knighthood, not to
mention smearing the Marines good name(Yes we live with Sexist Men.....AND
WOMEN) where I would sooner trust a Marine I never met with my life than
trust you to give a reliable opinion on a Dragonlance novel, and managed to
throw a bit of well placed, highly intelligent and well though out cuss
words, while managing, in the same light, to create a pile of posts that,
although interesting and entertaining, wasted the space of this newsgroup to
a PRIVATE flame war....clap, clap. In the future, please, for the sake of
those who care, post to eachother.
Spell Check has not been used to show that the English language is not
spelled fenetically and the most probable reason for poor spelling is the
choice not to waste time with frivolous grade school tests, rather to spend
the time doing something productive on a computer which has spell check
readily available.
Grammar Check has not been used because I cannot afford a copy of any
worthwhile word processor.
Run on sentences have not been corrected because I don't really care to
spend the time.
Time has been spent to explain the faults in this post to hopefully detract
as many flammable aspects as possible.
-Reddawg
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will only die tired. To aide in the clean up process please lay a drop
cloth, preferably plastic, on your floor to prevent the staining of carpet
(That takes a good two hours to clean up after).
Thank you for your patience, Death will be made as pleasant an experience as
possible.
P.S. Just got done reading Soulforge. Great book Margaret!
>learn to spell 'male' and 'chauvinist'
Learn to capitalize and punctuate.
Septentrionalis Ventus
Shut up. I wasn't addressing you. I find it more convenient to not capitalize
and punctuate when posting on the newsgroup.
there not sexist, THERE JUST OUTRIGHT FUCKING STUPID!!!
·· · · ÷•¤•)Yakanoh(•¤•÷·· · ·
>>>learn to spell 'male' and 'chauvinist'
>>
>>Learn to capitalize and punctuate.
>
>Shut up. I wasn't addressing you. I find it more convenient to not capitalize
>and punctuate when posting on the newsgroup.
Perhaps Joyner finds it more convenient not to bother to check his/her
spelling when posting on the newsgroup. Didn't pause to consider
that, did you?
Septentrionalis Ventus
are you a girl? If not, then you are the biggest prick I have ever met
anywhere. If you are a girl, then it's understandable.
And Joyner definitely mispelled those words, plus he called me a male
chauvinistic pig.
>>Perhaps Joyner finds it more convenient not to bother to check his/her
>>spelling when posting on the newsgroup. Didn't pause to consider
>>that, did you?
>
>are you a girl? If not, then you are the biggest prick I have ever met
>anywhere. If you are a girl, then it's understandable.
>And Joyner definitely mispelled those words, plus he called me a male
>chauvinistic pig.
Ah, but you're dodging the point, now, aren't you? How is Joyner's
lack of spelling different from your lack of
capitalization/punctuation?
But to satisfy your curiousity - no, I'm not a girl. I don't consider
myself a prick, either, just because I don't care for sexist folks
much. I do, however, consider sexists to be pricks.
Yes, I am aware of that Sir Kinthalas. But do you know what? It's
'capitalize,' not 'capitalise.' Alright-Alright, I'll stop.
As to answer your other statement. YES I AM A PRICK!!!! Okay?!? I'm not
really a sexist.
Well, later.
By the way, what's the deal with the Ramna thing. Does he continuously morph
from genders often?
Ahh---damn! You got me Sir Kinthalas. Kind of like the shit/shat thing.
Anything beats the way red-necks talk down here in the South.
I don't think 'imporialism' is a word. What is your problem anyways?
Right, Jex
>I don't think 'imporialism' is a word. What is your problem anyways?
well imporialism probly isnt a word in your redneck vocabulary,, and my problem
is with you attacking my friend, YES YAKANOH you all dont understand him, he is
just joking around, he's not serious about all the stuff he says, so quit
bongulating him
>Yes, yes, yes. You're killing me here, you know that? First of
all, the
>difference between my lack of punctuation and Joyner's lack of
spelling is that
>I am a lazy bastard and I hatecorrectly punctuating everything.
Joyner,
>however, just can't spell. Right Joyner?
>You (Septentrionalis Ventus or Torvail) on the other hand, write
stories. As a
>result, you are going on an ego trip about your accomplishments.
(good job.)
>
>As to answer your other statement. YES I AM A PRICK!!!! Okay?!? I'm
not
>really a sexist.
Ok in the way you used Bastard, it would mean you have no father?
Maybe its just that you do not care to use english in a correct manner?
Although, either way you meant it you 'are' a prick.
Dagger
Song of Death
Damn you are a 'BITCH', get a friggin life or go have some sex. Just
something so you can work out all your aggression. Of course you must
be a pretty boy, cause no woman would want to touch such a rude SOB.
Dagger
Song of Death
>>But to satisfy your curiousity - no, I'm not a girl. I don't consider
>>myself a prick, either, just because I don't care for sexist folks
>>much. I do, however, consider sexists to be pricks.
>
>Yes, yes, yes. You're killing me here, you know that? First of all, the
>difference between my lack of punctuation and Joyner's lack of spelling is that
>I am a lazy bastard and I hatecorrectly punctuating everything. Joyner,
>however, just can't spell. Right Joyner?
All I'm saying is that Joyner could just be a lazy bastard that
doesn't bother to hit the keys in the right order.
>You (Septentrionalis Ventus or Torvail) on the other hand, write stories. As a
>result, you are going on an ego trip about your accomplishments. (good job.)
Wait a second. Yes, I do write stories, but how does that fit in with
this?
>As to answer your other statement. YES I AM A PRICK!!!! Okay?!? I'm not
>really a sexist.
That's good to hear. The 'not a sexist' thing, that is, I don't care
whether or not you're a prick. :P
>Well, later.
Later.
>By the way, what's the deal with the Ramna thing. Does he continuously morph
>from genders often?
You read my fanfics, I see. Just creep on up to your local comics
shop - you should find some Ranma 1/2 stuff. Or just use a search
engine and type in Ranma 1/2. Plenty of summaries will come up.
You are for the most part correct. You know me oh so well. Imagine, I am
worse in person. Also, about my agression problem: I don't really have a major
aggression problem. However, having some sex is a good idea. ...Maybe a high
school slut or two. No. Possibility of diseases. Hmmm, I'll wait and see
when Prom comes around (which is in a week)
I am *really* a bastard as well as a prick.
Listen here. First of all, imporialism is not in the dictionary and I believe
it's not a word. Secondly, I'm not a red-neck nor do I talk like one.
Thirdly, I am definitely not familiar with the term 'bongulating.' I am,
however, consent to believe that you 'bongulate' everyday with a substance
called marijuana. Correct me if I'm wrong.
YOU STUPID ASS QUEER, I JUST COPIED THAT FROM ANOTHER NEWSGROUP, NOW IM
GOING
TO TAKE YOU HALF-WAY INTELLIGENT ANSWERS AND USE THEM TO REPLY TO THIS
SUBJECT
ON THE OTHER NEWSGROUP,
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, THANKS """""QUEER KIDD""", I APPRECIATE IT, YOU
ACTUALLY
THINK I WAS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO WRITE OUT ALL THAT?? HELL I DONT EVEN
HAVE
THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT SHIT LIKE THAT
·· · · ÷•¤•)Yakanoh(•¤•÷·· · ·
What have you to say about this? What kind of stupid excuse are you
going to give now? I think that would be interesting...*oooh...he didn't
mean what he said! He's just joking!* Yeah right.
Lance
Quivalen Sath wrote in message <3539C9CD...@pacific.net.sg>...
>>Lance
Atleast he's been kind enough to show us his exact emotion by using the
globally known, Caps for anger, method...
-Reddawg
I think he always uses the Caps when he types.
Dr Jex wrote in message <199804191600...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Then wouldn't it be the globally known, I'm an irritating bink who can't use
a keyboard, method?
-Reddawg
>I'm tired of seeing the Solamnic Knights gain such atrocities. First of all,
>admitting Tanis Half-Elven into the ranks. As Lord Soth would of said, "In my
>day, we wouldn't allow bastard half-elves in the Order."
>And women?!?!? It's bad enough there's women driving cars. (well, some. Not
>all now.) Moreover, that would be scary to see a chivalrous female. I
>understand mercenary chicks in comparison to Kitiara's case. I understand the
>Golden General deal. But a Solamnic Knight female. Do you have any idea what
>would happen to a lone female in an army of Solamnic males?!?! She would not
>be untouched for very long, or maybe the knights consider that 'dishonorable.'
>I tried, but I really cannot picture a female along the lines of a knight.
>Maybe because I'm so narrow minded. I don't know.
Besides which, this is a fantasy world, where we can go to imagine
things like real magic, real elves, real Honor, and real Equality.
Steve.
>I'm tired of seeing the Solamnic Knights gain such atrocities. First of all,
>admitting Tanis Half-Elven into the ranks. As Lord Soth would of said, "In my
>day, we wouldn't allow bastard half-elves in the Order."
>And women?!?!? It's bad enough there's women driving cars. (well, some. Not
>all now.) Moreover, that would be scary to see a chivalrous female. I
>understand mercenary chicks in comparison to Kitiara's case. I understand the
>Golden General deal. But a Solamnic Knight female. Do you have any idea what
>would happen to a lone female in an army of Solamnic males?!?! She would not
>be untouched for very long, or maybe the knights consider that 'dishonorable.'
>I tried, but I really cannot picture a female along the lines of a knight.
>Maybe because I'm so narrow minded. I don't know.
>Dr J...@aol.com OR Dr...@juno.com
>http://www.integritytech.com/daniel.html
Put down the crack pipe and read DoSF to find out why they did. I
think some of the anthologies explain why also.
Dr Jex wrote in message <199804190057...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>>>I don't think 'imporialism' is a word. What is your problem anyways?
>>
>>well imporialism probly isnt a word in your redneck vocabulary,, and my
>>problem
>>is with you attacking my friend, YES YAKANOH you all dont understand him,
he
>>is
>>just joking around, he's not serious about all the stuff he says, so quit
>>bongulating him
>
>Listen here. First of all, imporialism is not in the dictionary and I
believe
>it's not a word. Secondly, I'm not a red-neck nor do I talk like one.
>Thirdly, I am definitely not familiar with the term 'bongulating.' I am,
>however, consent to believe that you 'bongulate' everyday with a substance
>called marijuana. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe it's Yakanoh's less crazy personality that's capable of seamingly
reasonable writing.
I don't see how that creature can have friends.
---
Sacrifice. Sacrifice for the magic. What have you ever sacrificed for the
magic, Nephew? I gave up my health, my happiness. I gave up love--of my
brother, of my friends. I gave up the only woman who might have loved me in
return. I gave this all for the magic.
What will you give, Nephew?
Palin spoke the last two words of the spell. "Xts vrie." And then he added,
quietly, calmly, "I give myself."
Dragons of Summer Flame
I don't smoke anything. This includes cigarettes, pot, crack and other
varioius drugs. I also read DoSF. I can't remember it though. I remember a
few Solamnic females now. later.
so thats my oppinion.
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Michael Mikkelsen
School mail: M...@Bitsmart.Com
Home mail: Arch...@Psynet.Net
Phone number: 75117229
Mobil number: *Comming soon*
Myself, I'm not worried about female knights, *after* the War of the
Lance. I feel it would lessen Laurana's achievement in breaking the
chivalric glass ceiling to have others have gone before her, that way
(apart from, of course, the one female knight from the Third Dragon War
who provided the precedent so that Laurana could lead the Knights in the
first place). It's also a pity to directly contradict the original
Chronicles. After the War of the Lance, I'd be happy to see the Knights
learning from the lesson Laurana presented them with. (Although, I'm not
sure of the tense of that last statement.)
: But i mean comon the even let a kender become a knight once,
If it's the one I think you are referring to, he was only half-kender, and
he was asked to move on before he completed training. He never became a
Knight.
: so why not
: females, at least they would erase the one bad thing about the Solamnic
: Knights, their beards.
Moustaches. There's a difference.
--
Why is it that when I do finally get around to creating a .sig file, I
can't think of a single witty thing to say in it?
The Wraith
When did a kender become a knight?
Lance
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Quivalen Sath wrote:
> When did a kender become a knight?
He was a half-kender, and he did train for a knight, but didn't become
one. It happened in a short story in Reign of Istar, Tales II vol. 1. The
story was set in Xak Tsaroth before the Cataclysm.
Morten
>> When did a kender become a knight?
>
>He was a half-kender, and he did train for a knight, but didn't become
>one. It happened in a short story in Reign of Istar, Tales II vol. 1. The
>story was set in Xak Tsaroth before the Cataclysm.
IIRC, that lovely story, Kender Stew, was also written by Nick
O'Donohoe. He really should be writing more DL material. I remember
him writing Too, Too Solid Flesh for TSR, but recently he's seems to
have had some success with non-TSR fantasy novels.
Get him back into the fold this instant.
--
Larris "Death is a release from the impressions of the senses,
and from desires that make us their puppets,
and from the vagaries of the mind,
and from the hard service of the flesh." --Marcus Aurelius
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Larris wrote:
> IIRC, that lovely story, Kender Stew, was also written by Nick
> O'Donohoe. He really should be writing more DL material. I remember
> him writing Too, Too Solid Flesh for TSR, but recently he's seems to
> have had some success with non-TSR fantasy novels.
>
> Get him back into the fold this instant.
I think that Nancy Varian Berberick should get back into the fold. Her
short stories have been of varied quality, but her novel "Stormblade" is
the best non-W&H DL novel out there, IMHO. I was very disappointed when I
found out she wasn't going to write a sequel to it in the Heroes II
series, like Richard Knaak and Michael Williams did.
Morten
>I think that Nancy Varian Berberick should get back into the fold. Her
>short stories have been of varied quality,
Do you think so? I can't quite recollect her Tales II stories, but her
stories in Tales I were IMO very good (if not exactly canon... :)
> but her novel "Stormblade" is
>the best non-W&H DL novel out there, IMHO. I was very disappointed when I
>found out she wasn't going to write a sequel to it in the Heroes II
>series, like Richard Knaak and Michael Williams did.
Absolutely. I've loved Nancy Varian Berberick since I read her short
story Between Lightning and Thunder in Dragon Magazine. This was
before I'd read her Tales stories, so I was pleasantly surprised to
discover those, and Stormblade, afterwards.
She has a story in Relics and Omens, too. I wouldn't know anything
about it tho, not having read any of the review posts here b/c I'm
worried about spoilers. I'll just wait until I get the time to read it
for myself. :)
So, why did Dan Parkinson and not Nancy B. write Stormblade's sequel?
Maybe she had committed to other projects she had to attend to? Maybe
her contract with TSR fell through? Maybe Dan Parkinson said "pretty
please with sugar on top?"
These things are known to happen. I've noticed that Tina Daniell is
the author of The Dark Queen according to the Dragon Mag DL chronology
on TSR's website. I like to speculate that this is an indicator that
Michael Williams had to rush in in order to get the book out to the
announced publishing date. (Remember, TSR was once renowned for their
ability to keep their deadlines and ship on time...)
We could email her and ask.
It is good. I think she captures the spirit of the 5th Age
very well, especially with how the "new age" is forced to adapt
without magic. That's all I can say without going into a spoiler,
except that I agree - she should write more 5A novels.
-= Rindar