Blood Sea Monster???
Alainiz Ranee
DL tales in the "Magic of Krynn", there is a short stoy but Barbara and
Scott Siegel called "the Blood Sea Moster" tells a tale of an elf who died
in the hand(or claw, whatever) of a Blood Sea Monster living in the centre
of...well, Blood Sea of Istar. I thought that's where the perverted Temple
of Neraka is. Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
from? There's even a Bela fish that could talk?!! Does anyone have any idea
if there's any book about the magic of the Seas of Krynn. In "The Legacy",
Dunbar was a sea wizards, so is it possible to hear more about the the DL
watery stories?
66Alainiz99
Craig Ries
> Hi, I'm new here, and I apologise if this has been discussed before but in
> DL tales in the "Magic of Krynn", there is a short stoy but Barbara and
> Scott Siegel called "the Blood Sea Moster" tells a tale of an elf who died
> in the hand(or claw, whatever) of a Blood Sea Monster living in the centre
> of...well, Blood Sea of Istar. I thought that's where the perverted Temple
> of Neraka is. Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
> from?
Origin of this creature? No. I'd have to reread the story if anything to
recall what exactly happens. As for the temple, it's the Temple of Takhisis...
and it's in Neraka.
> Does anyone have any idea
> if there's any book about the magic of the Seas of Krynn. In "The Legacy",
> Dunbar was a sea wizards, so is it possible to hear more about the the DL
> watery stories?
Dunbar is only featured in that particular short story. His whereabouts are
currently unknown. If anything is close to a combination of magi and seafarers,
try the Defenders of Magic trilogy... I think it's as close as you can get.
WildChild, Craig J. Ries
forever darkness
>of...well, Blood Sea of Istar. I thought that's where the perverted Temple
>of Neraka is.
well actually, at the centre, there's supposed to be a portal which
leads to the abyss. it's the winds and such from the abyss that
creates the maelstorm above. this portal was left there by accident
when the temple was sucked into the abyss.
>Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
>from?
in the modules, there's a creature called the king of the deep or
something like that. while i've packed up all my books, i have no way
of verifying this. someone?
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<< in the modules, there's a creature called the king of the deep or
something like that. while i've packed up all my books, i have no way
of verifying this. someone? >>
The King of the Deep appears in DL12. He did not make the cut in the "remake"
'Dragonlance Classics 15th Anniversary Edition.' (None of the Blood Sea stuff
did, in fact, as it amounts to a bizarre side trek.)
Steve Miller
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sea imp. that might be what you are talaking about.
Something Wicked This Way Comes!
Morten Brattbakk
Alainiz Ranee <Alai...@yahoo.com> skrev
> Hi, I'm new here, and I apologise if this has been discussed before but
in
> DL tales in the "Magic of Krynn", there is a short stoy but Barbara and
> Scott Siegel called "the Blood Sea Moster" tells a tale of an elf who
died
> in the hand(or claw, whatever) of a Blood Sea Monster living in the
centre
> of...well, Blood Sea of Istar. I thought that's where the perverted
Temple
> of Neraka is.
The temple was in Istar before the Cataclysm, as you probably know, but it
was removed rom Istar and into the Abyss when the Cataclysm occured and
Istar fell into the sea. The center of Istar is now where the maelstrom
originates, and it is said that it actually is a portal to Neraka.
The temple was later gradually moved from the Abyss to Neraka.
> Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
> from?
Sorry, it's been a long time since I read the story.
> There's even a Bela fish that could talk?!! Does anyone have any idea
> if there's any book about the magic of the Seas of Krynn.
No, there hardly anything about it as far as I can remember. I'd love a
book like that, though.
Morten
A. Louis
> in the modules, there's a creature called the king of the deep or
> something like that. while i've packed up all my books, i have no way
> of verifying this. someone?
Yes, the King of the Deep is in the original modules, but I don't think
that it is the blood sea monster that was mentioned in one of the first
tales anthologies (however, whether or not that certain tale is canon is
debatable). I know that Knaak's new book, Reavers of the Blood Sea,
manages to confuse the situation even more with his "coil".
__ __ __
Alex Louis
(of course, the coil is the *least* of the problems of Reavers. That
book was *terrible*)
Simon Stone
Yep, although Dunbar was also *mentioned* in DoSF. He never had a line
or anything though.
Larris
>i remember a creature from one of my old modules. it was called a blood
>sea imp. that might be what you are talaking about.
Not the Monster, no. Imps are small. The BSM is BIG.
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Larris "Millions of spiritual Creatures
walk the Earth unseen,
both when we wake
and when we sleep." --John Milton
Larris
>in the "Magic of Krynn", there is a short stoy but Barbara and
>Scott Siegel called "the Blood Sea Moster" tells a tale of an elf who died
>in the hand(or claw, whatever) of a Blood Sea Monster living in the centre
>of...well, Blood Sea of Istar. I thought that's where the perverted Temple
>of Neraka is. Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
>from?
I like the idea of huge proto-dragons like Rage (from Hammer and Axe)
and Wyrmfather (from LoH).
The King of the Deep isn't likely to be a candidate for the dragon
role, however, because this gigantic monster is described as having
"horrible tentacles, claws, pincers, and a repulsive mane." From its
AD&D stats can be gleaned that it must have at least demi-deity
status. (I have only DLC here with its incomplete info; can somebody
please post the original stats? Morten?)
I think the BSM and the KotD may well be identical. Because the Pit of
Istar, where the Temple of the Kingpriest once lay, does indeed
contain both a portal to the Abyss and the King's lair...
>There's even a Bela fish that could talk?!!
Another HHGTTG reference, mayhaps? :)
>Does anyone have any idea
>if there's any book about the magic of the Seas of Krynn.
Only partly, see below.
>In "The Legacy",
>Dunbar was a sea wizards, so is it possible to hear more about the the DL
>watery stories?
...since we were counting Dunbar Mastersmate's appearances, I might as
well mention some early issues of the DL Comic as well (can't seem to
find my copies in all my moving boxes right now tho). It's the "High
Sorcery" mini-series.
"Watery" stories are told in numerous volumes, including Knights of
the Crown and Knights of the Sword by Roland Green; Maquesta Kar-Thon
by Daniell and Rabe, of course (and the DoNA books) and several short
stories like The Hand That Feeds by Rick Knaak and There Is Another
Shore... by Roger Moore; the poem Six Songs For The Temple of Istar by
Michael Williams. Surprisingly, The Dargonesti by Paul B. and Tonya
Cook doesn't concern itself much with seafaring or ships.
I've also found that Jean Rabe seems to go for the perils of the seas
more often than not in her DL fiction.
Larris
>"Watery" stories are told in numerous volumes,
but I forgot perhaps one of the most watery stories of all, The Voyage
of the Sunchaser by Paul and Tonya. :)
Altarielle
>The King of the Deep isn't likely to be a candidate for the dragon
>role, however, because this gigantic monster is described as having
>"horrible tentacles, claws, pincers, and a repulsive mane."
It sounds like the King of the Deep might be the inspiration (or the source)
for a Chaos created sea creature in Reavers of the Blood Sea. If it is, then
you might be able to count Reavers as an appearance of the "King."
Altarielle
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Capn Twill
12, the game contradicts itself there) former priests of Istar, it can
regenerate obscenely fast, and has a mouth that is a portal directly to the
Abyss.
As for the stats: -5 AC, 80 HD, 640 hp, etc; yeah, it seems pretty god-like.
I don't know about it being the Blood Sea Monster, though... I think it might
have been too busy commanding the armies of evil marine creatures in Istar to
go around eting fishermen. But that's just my opinion.
Cap'n Twill
Sailing forever upon the pie seas
Morten Brattbakk
forever darkness <spi...@cyberbeach.net> skrev
> well actually, at the centre, there's supposed to be a portal which
> leads to the abyss. it's the winds and such from the abyss that
> creates the maelstorm above. this portal was left there by accident
> when the temple was sucked into the abyss.
All this time Takhisis tried to enter Krynn through various portals and one
was open all the time at the bottom of the Blood Sea???!! Gods, she must
feel stupid now. :)
Morten
Larris
>>Any idea what this creature might be or where did it originate
>>from?
>
>The King of the Deep
<snip>
(from DL12)
>(I have only DLC here with its incomplete info; can somebody
>please post the original stats? Morten?)
Forget it. Found it under "Random Encounters" in DLC3... *sigh*
"The King of the Deep is a shadow-like being created from the
life essences of 10 former priests of Istar. Their wicked minds have
joined together t form this monster, but they can still animate their
petrified forms to protect themselves. (..)
"The King of the Deep has the body of a fish covered with a
silky tangle of hair, the head of a squid, and two monstrous pincers.
"The creature is immune to all mind related spells (e.g.,
/charm,/ /sleep,/ and /hold/) and all cold-based spells. It has 60%
resistance to all other spells. The King of the Deep can regenerate 20
hit points per round. It can also cast /darkness/ with a five-foot
radius, three times a day. The creature is covered by a shadowy mane
and razor-sharp scales that can snare attackers and their weapons.
(..)
"Once per day the King of the Deep can produce a horrendous
roar that strikes terror in the hearts of all (..) causes them to flee
(..).
"The King of the Deep's six tentacles and two pincers attack
with a +3 attack roll bonus. A tentacle cannot be severed. When a
tentacle hits on a natural roll of 20, it seizes its prey and pulls it
to the creature's mouth in two rounds. (..) The King's mouth is a gate
directly to the Abyss. This creature cannot be turned by a cleric."
King of the Deep
AC -5, MV 3 Sw18, HD 80, hp 640, #AT 8, Dmg 1d6+7(X8), SA Y, (missing
SD/AL/THAC0) XP Value 71,000.
(From DLC3)
Monstrous enough for me.
Larris
>> well actually, at the centre, there's supposed to be a portal which
>> leads to the abyss. it's the winds and such from the abyss that
>> creates the maelstorm above. this portal was left there by accident
>> when the temple was sucked into the abyss.
>
>All this time Takhisis tried to enter Krynn through various portals and one
>was open all the time at the bottom of the Blood Sea???!! Gods, she must
>feel stupid now. :)
:)
I have a feeling this one was one-way only. And there still was the
restriction we read in Legends, that she may only enter directly after
a mortal.
Alainiz Ranee
Thanks again!
Can't think of how many long years I have been looking for these info before
I stumbled to this GREAT newsgroup!!
66Alainiz99
Misty Miranda
warriors series vol. 2 if I recall correctly there was said to be a huge sea
monster a octopus if I recall correctly could this be the monster to which
you are referring? there was also the Kraken mentioned in the dragonesti
novel I believe.... god it has been so long I cannot remember which exactly.
Unfortunately I do not keep my books when I am done I give them to friends
;-(.
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Steve Miller <nue...@aol.comDELETE> wrote in message
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> Forever Darkness wrote:
>
> << in the modules, there's a creature called the king of the deep or
> something like that. while i've packed up all my books, i have no way
> of verifying this. someone? >>
>
Morten Brattbakk
Larris <lar...@usa.net> skrev
> "Watery" stories are told in numerous volumes,
But there are, sadly, no stories involving sea wizards.
Morten
Splatter
wrote:
> there was also the Kraken mentioned in the dragonesti
>novel I believe.... god it has been so long I cannot remember which exactly.
>Unfortunately I do not keep my books when I am done I give them to friends
>;-(.
>
It was actually in The Lost Histories 3, Dargonesti, I had forgotten
all about it. Well it centainly was powerfull enough. I think even
Bryne (or what was the sea dragon called in 5A?) would have had a
tough fight with him.
Splatter
Morten Brattbakk
Misty Miranda <mys...@gte.net> skrev
> In the novel Marquesta Kar Thon I believe it is called a part of the
> warriors series vol. 2 if I recall correctly there was said to be a huge
sea
> monster a octopus if I recall correctly could this be the monster to
which
> you are referring? there was also the Kraken mentioned in the dragonesti
> novel I believe....
Urgh, that book had no plot at all, it was basially a listing of various
AD&D monsters.There were, as far as I can remember, sea hags, octopuses,
shadowpeople, krakens, ki-rins and countless other monsters in encounter
after encounter until the book mercifully ended. The end-of-level-monster
Maquesta's crew were chasing was a morkoth, a cruel, intelligent creature
which noone knows what looks like, but according to the Monstrous Manual
they are said to "resemble an intelligent fish with an octupus's beak. The
are most frequently described as being between 5 and 6 feet long, inky lack
in color,with faint luminescent silver patches. They may have fins for arms
and legs that vaguely resemble those of humans, and a number of fins for
navigation" etc.
Morten
Morten Brattbakk
Alainiz Ranee <Alai...@yahoo.com> skrev
Good thing someone thinks this newsgroup is great. :)
And thank YOU for the spell translations!!!!!! That was so cool to know
what he words actually ment. I have a list of spells cast by Raistlin in
Chronicles, could you take a go at them if you don't mind?:
sleep - "Ast tasarak sinuralan krynawi"
sleep - "Ast tasark simiralan krynawi" (yes, it's slightly different)
friends - "Suh tangus moipar, ast akular kalipar"
charm person - "Tan-tago, musalah"
sleep - "Ast tasark sinuralan krynaw" (that's right, a third version.)
magic missile - "Kalith karan, tobanis-kar"
detect magic - "Tsaran korilath ith hakon"
knock - "Khetsaram pakliol"
wizard lock - "Kalis-an budrunin kara-emarath."
lightning bolt - "Ast kiranann kair Gadurm Sotharn/Suh kali Jalaran"
BTW, you said you were still working on "Shirak" and "Dulak". Dulak was
once mentioned as "Dumak". Perhaps that rings a bell? Can "Shirak" be close
to a word that means something like "light"?
Morten
Marrael
> BTW, you said you were still working on "Shirak" and "Dulak". Dulak
was
> once mentioned as "Dumak". Perhaps that rings a bell? Can "Shirak" be
close
> to a word that means something like "light"?
I think it was from a language in the middle-east. (I knew it once, now
I've forgotten.) :/ Shirak was either "light" or "day," and Dulak was
the opposite of whatever it was. Someone clear this up?? :)
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>> well actually, at the centre, there's supposed to be a portal which
>> leads to the abyss. it's the winds and such from the abyss that
>> creates the maelstorm above. this portal was left there by accident
>> when the temple was sucked into the abyss.
>
>All this time Takhisis tried to enter Krynn through various portals and one
>was open all the time at the bottom of the Blood Sea???!! Gods, she must
>feel stupid now. :)
urm... dunno? :)
all books are packed... so i can't read up the information on the
portal. but as someone else pointed out, she can only go thorugh a
portal after someone has preceeded her. also, the one in the blood
sea might be one way.
also, the existence of the portal might be known only to that one
module. :)
T.Geerlings
Larris wrote:
> The_R...@webtv.net (The Ritual) wrote:
>
> >i remember a creature from one of my old modules. it was called a blood
> >sea imp. that might be what you are talaking about.
>
> Not the Monster, no. Imps are small. The BSM is BIG.
>
> --
> Larris "Millions of spiritual Creatures
> walk the Earth unseen,
> both when we wake
> and when we sleep." --John Milton
Maybe it is a horrible mutated imp from beyond time and space that man was
never ment to see :-)
Torger
Bozak Draconian