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Tavis Ormandy
Jan 11, 2021, 2:50:46 PM1/11/21
to
The infocom games were before my time, but I have an open
mind about this stuff, so I tried playing the HHGTTG game
this weekend.
There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
(maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
(getting the game into a state where you cannot make
progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
frustrating.
Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
think they would still have considered soft-locking
progress a bug?
Here's an example, early on, Ford offers you a towel - if
you accept it, the game continues but you can't actually
make any progress:
> Moments later, your friend Ford Prefect arrives. He
> hardly seems to notice your predicament, but
> keeps glancing nervously at the sky. He says, "Hello,
> Arthur," takes a towel from his battered
> leather satchel, and offers it to you.
>
> > take towel
....Silly me, I guess???
There are still some fun lines, e.g.
> >look around
> You keep out of this, you're dead and should be
> concentrating on developing a good firm rigor
> mortis.
Here's another example in the Vogon hold, there's a puzzle
where you have to build a rube goldberg machine to get a
babel fish. The flavor text wasn't from the book but does
sound like it was written by DNA, the kind of content I
was hoping for!
The problem is, if you didn't get all the items you needed
to build it, too bad you're dead. The game never tells you
you can't progress though, so you have to have played it
enough to get frustrated and lookup the solution.
Honestly, it spoiled what could have been a fun puzzle.
> >press dispenser button
> A single babel fish shoots out of the slot. It sails
> across the room and hits the dressing gown.
> The fish slides down the sleeve of the gown and falls to
> the floor, landing on the towel. A split
> second later, a tiny cleaning robot whizzes across the
> floor, grabs the fish, and continues its
> breakneck pace toward a tiny robot panel at the base of
> the wall. The robot zips through the
> panel, and is gone.
I don't know if I have the patience to finish the game,
which is a shame because I there is some content I would
have really enjoyed!
--
_o)
/\\ _o) _o)
_\_V _( ) _( ) :wq!
mind about this stuff, so I tried playing the HHGTTG game
this weekend.
There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
(maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
(getting the game into a state where you cannot make
progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
frustrating.
Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
think they would still have considered soft-locking
progress a bug?
Here's an example, early on, Ford offers you a towel - if
you accept it, the game continues but you can't actually
make any progress:
> Moments later, your friend Ford Prefect arrives. He
> hardly seems to notice your predicament, but
> keeps glancing nervously at the sky. He says, "Hello,
> Arthur," takes a towel from his battered
> leather satchel, and offers it to you.
>
> > take towel
....Silly me, I guess???
There are still some fun lines, e.g.
> >look around
> You keep out of this, you're dead and should be
> concentrating on developing a good firm rigor
> mortis.
Here's another example in the Vogon hold, there's a puzzle
where you have to build a rube goldberg machine to get a
babel fish. The flavor text wasn't from the book but does
sound like it was written by DNA, the kind of content I
was hoping for!
The problem is, if you didn't get all the items you needed
to build it, too bad you're dead. The game never tells you
you can't progress though, so you have to have played it
enough to get frustrated and lookup the solution.
Honestly, it spoiled what could have been a fun puzzle.
> >press dispenser button
> A single babel fish shoots out of the slot. It sails
> across the room and hits the dressing gown.
> The fish slides down the sleeve of the gown and falls to
> the floor, landing on the towel. A split
> second later, a tiny cleaning robot whizzes across the
> floor, grabs the fish, and continues its
> breakneck pace toward a tiny robot panel at the base of
> the wall. The robot zips through the
> panel, and is gone.
I don't know if I have the patience to finish the game,
which is a shame because I there is some content I would
have really enjoyed!
--
_o)
/\\ _o) _o)
_\_V _( ) _( ) :wq!
Nemo Thorx
Jan 11, 2021, 9:12:05 PM1/11/21
to
Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 1150 hours...
puzzle-creation, but didn't do the "turn it into code" programming
(He had an interest in doing so, but the expertise needed was more than
the available time for him to learn)
> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> frustrating.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
> think they would still have considered soft-locking
> progress a bug?
>
It's very deliberate. Douglas himself said that the game is
user-insulting and user-mendacious (ie, deliberately lies to you)
https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1011936679211528192
...basically, what you're describing is a feature, not a bug
> Here's an example, early on, Ford offers you a towel - if
> you accept it, the game continues but you can't actually
> make any progress:
>
> > Moments later, your friend Ford Prefect arrives. He
> > hardly seems to notice your predicament, but
> > keeps glancing nervously at the sky. He says, "Hello,
> > Arthur," takes a towel from his battered
> > leather satchel, and offers it to you.
> >
> > > take towel
>
> ....Silly me, I guess???
I'm not getting the concern here. It's a puzzle - and a simple one. I'm
sure everyone went down the path of taking the towel once - either
because they knew from the radio/books that towels are good, or they
knew from text adventure gaming tropes that you collect everything if
you can. This puzzle subverted both those expectations nicely :)
Anyway, a game without dead-end paths would be pretty dull. We have save
points for a reason :)
> There are still some fun lines, e.g.
>
> > >look around
> > You keep out of this, you're dead and should be
> > concentrating on developing a good firm rigor
> > mortis.
>
> Here's another example in the Vogon hold, there's a puzzle
> where you have to build a rube goldberg machine to get a
> babel fish. The flavor text wasn't from the book but does
> sound like it was written by DNA, the kind of content I
> was hoping for!
>
> The problem is, if you didn't get all the items you needed
> to build it, too bad you're dead. The game never tells you
> you can't progress though, so you have to have played it
> enough to get frustrated and lookup the solution.
> Honestly, it spoiled what could have been a fun puzzle.
The babelfish puzzle is famous, to the point that infocom sold "I got
the Babel Fish" tshirts.
For what it's worth, I solved the babelfish puzzle by repeatedly playing
through to it, finding I couldn't solve it because I lacked an item, and
then revisiting the game from scratch. It was definitely frustrating,
but the sense of accomplishment when done was fantastic and in total, it
was fun! (I didn't actually find it conceptually hard - just time
consumingly iterative)
> I don't know if I have the patience to finish the game,
> which is a shame because I there is some content I would
> have really enjoyed!
Whilst the Babel Fish puzzle does have the reputation for being
fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you get
onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game to
be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
There is a lot of quirky obscure content in the game too (footnote 12!)
and IMHO, absolutely worth it overall
As a final observation, I'd note that at the time of release, it was
considered one of Infocom's best games, and was a best seller. It gained
much critical acclaim. So I'd say give it another go, and treat the game
itself as a character - a perhaps not entirely reliably one :)
.../Nemo
--
----------------------------------------- -----------------------------
earth native
>
> There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
> (maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
As far as I know, he was heavily involved in both writing and
> There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
> (maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
puzzle-creation, but didn't do the "turn it into code" programming
(He had an interest in doing so, but the expertise needed was more than
the available time for him to learn)
> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> frustrating.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
> think they would still have considered soft-locking
> progress a bug?
>
user-insulting and user-mendacious (ie, deliberately lies to you)
https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1011936679211528192
...basically, what you're describing is a feature, not a bug
> Here's an example, early on, Ford offers you a towel - if
> you accept it, the game continues but you can't actually
> make any progress:
>
> > Moments later, your friend Ford Prefect arrives. He
> > hardly seems to notice your predicament, but
> > keeps glancing nervously at the sky. He says, "Hello,
> > Arthur," takes a towel from his battered
> > leather satchel, and offers it to you.
> >
> > > take towel
>
> ....Silly me, I guess???
sure everyone went down the path of taking the towel once - either
because they knew from the radio/books that towels are good, or they
knew from text adventure gaming tropes that you collect everything if
you can. This puzzle subverted both those expectations nicely :)
Anyway, a game without dead-end paths would be pretty dull. We have save
points for a reason :)
> There are still some fun lines, e.g.
>
> > >look around
> > You keep out of this, you're dead and should be
> > concentrating on developing a good firm rigor
> > mortis.
>
> Here's another example in the Vogon hold, there's a puzzle
> where you have to build a rube goldberg machine to get a
> babel fish. The flavor text wasn't from the book but does
> sound like it was written by DNA, the kind of content I
> was hoping for!
>
> The problem is, if you didn't get all the items you needed
> to build it, too bad you're dead. The game never tells you
> you can't progress though, so you have to have played it
> enough to get frustrated and lookup the solution.
> Honestly, it spoiled what could have been a fun puzzle.
the Babel Fish" tshirts.
For what it's worth, I solved the babelfish puzzle by repeatedly playing
through to it, finding I couldn't solve it because I lacked an item, and
then revisiting the game from scratch. It was definitely frustrating,
but the sense of accomplishment when done was fantastic and in total, it
was fun! (I didn't actually find it conceptually hard - just time
consumingly iterative)
> I don't know if I have the patience to finish the game,
> which is a shame because I there is some content I would
> have really enjoyed!
fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you get
onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game to
be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
There is a lot of quirky obscure content in the game too (footnote 12!)
and IMHO, absolutely worth it overall
As a final observation, I'd note that at the time of release, it was
considered one of Infocom's best games, and was a best seller. It gained
much critical acclaim. So I'd say give it another go, and treat the game
itself as a character - a perhaps not entirely reliably one :)
.../Nemo
--
----------------------------------------- -----------------------------
earth native
Tavis Ormandy
Jan 12, 2021, 12:40:18 AM1/12/21
to
In article
<20210112120727.NemoThorx_eternalseptembe.ReInfocomAdventu
re__...@nemo.house.cx.invalid>,
eternalseptemberREMOV...@nemo.house.cx.i
nvalid says...
stick with it a little longer, I guess I was posting in
exasperation ;-)
Tavis.
<20210112120727.NemoThorx_eternalseptembe.ReInfocomAdventu
re__...@nemo.house.cx.invalid>,
eternalseptemberREMOV...@nemo.house.cx.i
nvalid says...
>
> Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 1150 hours...
> >
> > There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
> > (maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
>
> As far as I know, he was heavily involved in both writing and
> puzzle-creation, but didn't do the "turn it into code" programming
> (He had an interest in doing so, but the expertise needed was more than
> the available time for him to learn)
>
>
> > The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> > (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> > progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> > frustrating.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
> > think they would still have considered soft-locking
> > progress a bug?
> >
>
> It's very deliberate. Douglas himself said that the game is
> user-insulting and user-mendacious (ie, deliberately lies to you)
>
> https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1011936679211528192
>
> ...basically, what you're describing is a feature, not a bug
>
Great clip, thanks for the link. You've convinced me to
> Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 1150 hours...
> >
> > There were some lines that felt like DNA had written them
> > (maybe he did, I know he was involved). That was cool.
>
> As far as I know, he was heavily involved in both writing and
> puzzle-creation, but didn't do the "turn it into code" programming
> (He had an interest in doing so, but the expertise needed was more than
> the available time for him to learn)
>
>
> > The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> > (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> > progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> > frustrating.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I've played old Sierra games, but I
> > think they would still have considered soft-locking
> > progress a bug?
> >
>
> It's very deliberate. Douglas himself said that the game is
> user-insulting and user-mendacious (ie, deliberately lies to you)
>
> https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1011936679211528192
>
> ...basically, what you're describing is a feature, not a bug
>
stick with it a little longer, I guess I was posting in
exasperation ;-)
Tavis.
Nemo Thorx
Jan 12, 2021, 12:42:05 AM1/12/21
to
Quoting Professor Urban Chronotis from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 2209 hours...
>
> Anyone happen to know if the BBC website version is true to the original
> Infocom version? I’ve only dabbled with the website one, seemed familiar.
>
> Oh wait, I could google that, I’ll be over here...
>
hehe.
for the record, it is as far as I've ever heard. I think they just added
some hooks to handle the "show different graphics at the right time"
(which might have been as simple as text-parsing the output to know what
part the game is up to, or could have been a deeper custom
implementation of a Z-machine
The game used to also be on Douglas' own site, but it seems to need
java... https://douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava.html
>
> Anyone happen to know if the BBC website version is true to the original
> Infocom version? I’ve only dabbled with the website one, seemed familiar.
>
> Oh wait, I could google that, I’ll be over here...
>
hehe.
for the record, it is as far as I've ever heard. I think they just added
some hooks to handle the "show different graphics at the right time"
(which might have been as simple as text-parsing the output to know what
part the game is up to, or could have been a deeper custom
implementation of a Z-machine
The game used to also be on Douglas' own site, but it seems to need
java... https://douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava.html
Tavis Ormandy
Jan 12, 2021, 12:46:53 AM1/12/21
to
In article <1553211725.632115721.846332.mazerlodge-
skip.hotma...@news.eternal-september.org>,
mazer...@skip.hotmail.this.com says...
>
> Oh wait, I could google that, I?ll be over here...
>
>
I was playing the DOS version in an emulator. It seems
mostly the same to me, only difference I've noticed is the
version I was playing gives you a menu if you type HINT -
the BBC one just says look in the box!
Too bad the map seems to be broken on the BBC website,
that could have been handy!
Tavis.
skip.hotma...@news.eternal-september.org>,
mazer...@skip.hotmail.this.com says...
> Anyone happen to know if the BBC website version is true to the original
> Infocom version? I?ve only dabbled with the website one, seemed familiar.
>
> Oh wait, I could google that, I?ll be over here...
>
>
I was playing the DOS version in an emulator. It seems
mostly the same to me, only difference I've noticed is the
version I was playing gives you a menu if you type HINT -
the BBC one just says look in the box!
Too bad the map seems to be broken on the BBC website,
that could have been handy!
Tavis.
Nemo Thorx
Jan 12, 2021, 2:12:04 AM1/12/21
to
Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 2146 hours...
this game datafile...
> Release 58 / Serial number 851002
In which...
> > hint
> If you're really stuck, a complete map and InvisiClues Hint Booklet are
> available from your dealer, or via mail order with the form that came in your
> package.
>
And I've also got...
> Release 59 / Serial number 851108
> Release 60 / Serial number 861002
...both of which have the same InvisiClues Hint Booklet thing
And for all three of these the data file is 111k in size... and I'm
curious as to what subtle differences are between them (presumably
bugfixes)
But I also have this one, 155k sized datafile:
> Release 31 / Serial number 871119 / Interpreter 1 Version F
...which I'm guessing is what you have (or close to it) which has
> >hint
>[Warning: It is recognized that the temptation for help may at times be so
>exceedingly strong that you might fetch hints prematurely. Therefore, you may
>at any time during the story type HINTS OFF, and this will disallow the seeking
>out of help for the present session of the story. If you still want a hint now,
>indicate HINT.]
>
Seems douglasadams.com and BBC both use the Release 59 / 851108 version
for some reason. Huh.
> Too bad the map seems to be broken on the BBC website,
> that could have been handy!
The traditional way is to draw your own on some graph paper ;)
But you may find this exceedingly interesting... behind the scenes notes
from the game creation... there are maps (no idea if accurate to the
final product) on pages 10 and 12. Possibly more maps deeper in too...
https://archive.org/details/InfocomCabinetHitchhikersGuide/page/n9/mode/2up
...I'm off to peruse through the didn't-know-I-had-them invisiclues in
the hintful version of the game! Thankyou :D
>
> In article <1553211725.632115721.846332.mazerlodge-
> skip.hotma...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> mazer...@skip.hotmail.this.com says...
> > Anyone happen to know if the BBC website version is true to the original
> > Infocom version? I?ve only dabbled with the website one, seemed familiar.
> >
> > Oh wait, I could google that, I?ll be over here...
> >
> >
>
> I was playing the DOS version in an emulator. It seems
> mostly the same to me, only difference I've noticed is the
> version I was playing gives you a menu if you type HINT -
> the BBC one just says look in the box!
The hint system depends on the version you have! For instance, I have
> In article <1553211725.632115721.846332.mazerlodge-
> skip.hotma...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> mazer...@skip.hotmail.this.com says...
> > Anyone happen to know if the BBC website version is true to the original
> > Infocom version? I?ve only dabbled with the website one, seemed familiar.
> >
> > Oh wait, I could google that, I?ll be over here...
> >
> >
>
> I was playing the DOS version in an emulator. It seems
> mostly the same to me, only difference I've noticed is the
> version I was playing gives you a menu if you type HINT -
> the BBC one just says look in the box!
this game datafile...
> Release 58 / Serial number 851002
In which...
> > hint
> If you're really stuck, a complete map and InvisiClues Hint Booklet are
> available from your dealer, or via mail order with the form that came in your
> package.
>
And I've also got...
> Release 59 / Serial number 851108
> Release 60 / Serial number 861002
...both of which have the same InvisiClues Hint Booklet thing
And for all three of these the data file is 111k in size... and I'm
curious as to what subtle differences are between them (presumably
bugfixes)
But I also have this one, 155k sized datafile:
> Release 31 / Serial number 871119 / Interpreter 1 Version F
...which I'm guessing is what you have (or close to it) which has
> >hint
>[Warning: It is recognized that the temptation for help may at times be so
>exceedingly strong that you might fetch hints prematurely. Therefore, you may
>at any time during the story type HINTS OFF, and this will disallow the seeking
>out of help for the present session of the story. If you still want a hint now,
>indicate HINT.]
>
Seems douglasadams.com and BBC both use the Release 59 / 851108 version
for some reason. Huh.
> Too bad the map seems to be broken on the BBC website,
> that could have been handy!
But you may find this exceedingly interesting... behind the scenes notes
from the game creation... there are maps (no idea if accurate to the
final product) on pages 10 and 12. Possibly more maps deeper in too...
https://archive.org/details/InfocomCabinetHitchhikersGuide/page/n9/mode/2up
...I'm off to peruse through the didn't-know-I-had-them invisiclues in
the hintful version of the game! Thankyou :D
Kerr-Mudd,John
Jan 12, 2021, 5:28:39 AM1/12/21
to
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 02:07:27 GMT, Nemo Thorx
<eternalseptemberREMOV...@nemo.house.cx.invalid> wrote:
> Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 1150 hours...
>>
[]
<eternalseptemberREMOV...@nemo.house.cx.invalid> wrote:
> Quoting Tavis Ormandy from 11 Jan (a Monday in 2021) at 1150 hours...
>>
>
>> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
>> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
>> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
>> frustrating.
[]
>> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
>> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
>> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
>> frustrating.
> Whilst the Babel Fish puzzle does have the reputation for being
> fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you
get
> onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game
to
> be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
> you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
>
There are several points where you can inadvertently go "wrong". At the
> fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you
get
> onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game
to
> be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
> you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
>
finale Marvin is very demanding!
> There is a lot of quirky obscure content in the game too (footnote 12!)
> and IMHO, absolutely worth it overall
>
>
> As a final observation, I'd note that at the time of release, it was
> considered one of Infocom's best games, and was a best seller. It
gained
> much critical acclaim. So I'd say give it another go, and treat the
game
> itself as a character - a perhaps not entirely reliably one :)
>
--
> As a final observation, I'd note that at the time of release, it was
> considered one of Infocom's best games, and was a best seller. It
gained
> much critical acclaim. So I'd say give it another go, and treat the
game
> itself as a character - a perhaps not entirely reliably one :)
>
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Nemo Thorx
Jan 12, 2021, 6:42:05 AM1/12/21
to
Quoting Kerr-Mudd,John from 12 Jan (a Tuesday in 2021) at 1028 hours...
sense of "if you create a savefile at the time of arriving on the Heart
of Gold, then nothing fundamentally relies on actions from the first
half"
...but then I remembered the space fleet with the miscalculation of
scale! I don't exactly remember how it fits in at this point though!
I did just remember too that the source code to the game is online, for
those truly interested in the low level geekiness of it all...
https://github.com/historicalsource/hitchhikersguide
(the compiled version therein is Release 60 / Serial number 861002 )
even more exciting is the code for what exists of the sequel...
https://github.com/historicalsource/restaurant
(including a small intro with like ... two locations)
And of course, the wholly original game... Bureaucracy
https://github.com/historicalsource/bureaucracy
>
> >> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> >> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> >> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> >> frustrating.
> []
> > Whilst the Babel Fish puzzle does have the reputation for being
> > fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you
> get
> > onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game
> to
> > be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
> > you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
> >
>
> There are several points where you can inadvertently go "wrong". At the
> finale Marvin is very demanding!
Oh yeah, the finale puzzle was a real doozy! But I was thinking in the
> >> The main problem for me was that what soft-locking
> >> (getting the game into a state where you cannot make
> >> progress) seems to be part of the game, which is super
> >> frustrating.
> []
> > Whilst the Babel Fish puzzle does have the reputation for being
> > fiendish, the whole game changes style not long after that (once you
> get
> > onto the Heart of Gold). I actually found the latter half of the game
> to
> > be harder, but from memory, nothing in it relies on the first half, so
> > you can lock in a "arrived on the Heart of Gold" savepoint :)
> >
>
> There are several points where you can inadvertently go "wrong". At the
> finale Marvin is very demanding!
sense of "if you create a savefile at the time of arriving on the Heart
of Gold, then nothing fundamentally relies on actions from the first
half"
...but then I remembered the space fleet with the miscalculation of
scale! I don't exactly remember how it fits in at this point though!
I did just remember too that the source code to the game is online, for
those truly interested in the low level geekiness of it all...
https://github.com/historicalsource/hitchhikersguide
(the compiled version therein is Release 60 / Serial number 861002 )
even more exciting is the code for what exists of the sequel...
https://github.com/historicalsource/restaurant
(including a small intro with like ... two locations)
And of course, the wholly original game... Bureaucracy
https://github.com/historicalsource/bureaucracy
Kerr-Mudd,John
Jan 12, 2021, 6:57:12 AM1/12/21
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little there was.
> (including a small intro with like ... two locations)
>
> And of course, the wholly original game... Bureaucracy
> https://github.com/historicalsource/bureaucracy
>
>
> .../Nemo
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Nemo Thorx
Jan 12, 2021, 10:42:09 AM1/12/21
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Quoting Kerr-Mudd,John from 12 Jan (a Tuesday in 2021) at 1157 hours...
story about the creation (or lack thereof) of the sequel. Read the
comments for additions from Michael Bywater too
https://waxy.org/2008/04/milliways_infocoms_unreleased_sequel_to_hitchhikers_guide_to_the_galax/
...but also, it has both release 15 and release 184 of Milliways!
Both "playable". Release 15 actually has more places to go, but fewer
descriptions of things!
> >
> > even more exciting is the code for what exists of the sequel...
> > https://github.com/historicalsource/restaurant
>
> I was excited on discovering that it existed, then disappointed with how
> little there was.
>
> > (including a small intro with like ... two locations)
> >
> I think that's all there was. BICBW.
Memory takes a while to kick into gear. There is also this... a long
> > even more exciting is the code for what exists of the sequel...
> > https://github.com/historicalsource/restaurant
>
> I was excited on discovering that it existed, then disappointed with how
> little there was.
>
> > (including a small intro with like ... two locations)
> >
> I think that's all there was. BICBW.
story about the creation (or lack thereof) of the sequel. Read the
comments for additions from Michael Bywater too
https://waxy.org/2008/04/milliways_infocoms_unreleased_sequel_to_hitchhikers_guide_to_the_galax/
...but also, it has both release 15 and release 184 of Milliways!
Both "playable". Release 15 actually has more places to go, but fewer
descriptions of things!
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