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Sep 1, 2005, 5:45:11 AM9/1/05
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It's getting a bit tiresome seeing one misguided American after another with
their cutsie little yellow or red-white-blue ribbons on their outsized SUVs.
Yeah, I guess it's the thing to do; maybe part of that whole soccer-mom
culture. Unfortunately, the only thing they demonstrate is that the person
behind the wheel is a clueless, gullible, misguided, nitwit.

If foreign invaders landed on our soil, as we have done in Iraq, I would be
the first one to take up arms and repel them. (I suppose that would make me
an 'insurgent' by OUR logic.) This, and other aggressive governments have
always done their utmost to make it APPEAR as if committing yourself to kill
in feuds on distant shores that have nothing to do with the welfare of the
citizenry is somehow patriotic.

It is not.

Enlisting in the armed forces, in the absence of a real and impending
foreign threat, is no different that hiring yourself as a paid assassin . .
the only difference is, you're not getting paid enough. But let's take a
realistic look at exactly WHO joins up in an all-volunteer army.

The first group are those who join (during peacetime) for the benefits: to
get an education, or because it seems a reasonable career path. Consider
carefully! Realize that you are gambling with your humanity. Once you sign
that form, you sign away your right to say: "No, that is an atrocity." You
put your abilities, including the ability to kill, at the disposal of proven
liars, psychopaths . . . enemies of humanity. Do you think that every German
soldier in World War II who helped load Jews into cattle cars was a
cold-blooded killer? Most were poor kids, just like you, who got caught up
in the patriotic frenzy. Once you're in, you're IN. You lose the ability to
stop killing until they tell you so. This not only makes you less than
human, it makes you less than an animal, for even the animals retain their
freedom of self determination.

The second group are the simple minded, who fall for patriotic entreaties
about defending democracy, Mom, apple pie; in other words, all the
traditional government propaganda. Do you think Soviet lads subjugated their
neighbors throughout the world because they thought the Soviet Union was an
EVIL empire? No, they were fighting for MOM, and whatever passes for apple
pie in Russia. Step back and examine the lies your government is handing
you, and ask yourself if they have the ring of truth. Do you want to be one
of the murderers in uniform who opened up on their fellow citizens at Kent
State? When you put on that uniform, you give up all autonomy, and become
nothing more than a weapon, to be used for whatever evil purposes the
scoundrels in government demand (and, if you look carefully, you will
discover that the only interests THEY serve are those of the big businesses
that own them.)

Finally, you have the hard-core psychopaths. These are the people who WANT
to kill. Murder, torture, rape; THESE are the American values upon which
THIS group is focused. The cause doesn't matter, they're after the thrill
that only warfare can provide.

Just remember: killing for George W. Bush, or for George H.W. Bush, or for
Lyndon B. Johnson, or for Richard M. Nixon is not the same as defending
yourself, your family, your friends, or your country. Don't be a dupe. Don't
Enlist!

Remember -- supporting the troops means supporting Bush aggression,
profiteering, and war crimes. Here's an idea: why not take those ribbons,
dip them in blood, and mail them to the White House?

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Tom St.Denis

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Linds

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Sep 1, 2005, 4:33:30 PM9/1/05
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I don't like war anymore then the next person. But we can just sit back and
let what has been happening continue on. Do you not remember Sept 11? What
happened that day? How many perople lost their lives?

Yeah war is a terriable thing. No one truely like it. If there was a way to
solve this problem without a war having to happen, I'm sure Bush or anyone
else that would be in his shoes would do it.

Do you know how to solve this problem? Can you fix it? Do you have all the
answers? No one has all the answers, all anyone can do is do the best they
can. And that is what Bush is doing. I've talked to several men and women
who are over there, and they believe in it, they know their doing good by
helping these people, even at the cost of their own life. Becasue it makes
them feel good when they give a small gift or candy to the kids, something
so small that brings joy the childs face.

Their fighting for the people of lost their lives on Sept 11, their fighting
for a better furtue for those children and their families who live in a
world that all they've ever known was hatred and horror.

And yeah, somethimes people have to die for great things to happen. In all
the history books you hear of stories how people foguht for what they
beleived in, fought till their last breath, becasue they beleived in it.
They beleived that some good would come out of it, and all of them were
willing to die for it.

How do you think the men and woman over there that are fighting for what
they believed in, felt if everyone back at home was agaisnt what they were
trying to do. How would they feel, if no one believed in them?

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Just Plain Insane

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Sep 1, 2005, 5:49:44 PM9/1/05
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"Linds" <wildwi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> I don't like war anymore then the next person. But we can just sit
> back and let what has been happening continue on. Do you not remember
> Sept 11? What happened that day? How many perople lost their lives?

Linds, this guy is a troll, he's posted this in just about every newsgroup
on Usenet (check out google if you don't believe me)

Linds

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Sep 2, 2005, 2:11:20 PM9/2/05
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"Just Plain Insane" <j...@justplaininsane.net> wrote in message
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Okay thanks. I didn't know for sure. I kind of figured her was, but anyways,
Thanks again


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