Oh Look - A Fresh Bush Scandal!!!
Trident
Note they cancelled all the Hayden nomination meetings (he's toast) and
the secret service blocked the Justice department's investigation into
the warrentless spying program.
Begining to look and feel like a dictatorship. All that's needed now
is another terrorist attack followed by Marshall Law.
The Chimp is on the loose!!! Who will stop him!!!!
Trident
Ron Hardin
> Begining to look and feel like a dictatorship. All that's needed now
> is another terrorist attack followed by Marshall Law.
Sort of like rebuilding Germany and Japan then, you're saying.
--
Ron Hardin
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
Traditional Conservative
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himself special "war powers" that permit him to ignore the constitution.
It's all bullshit, of course, but the chimpettes controlling congress have
neither the brains nor balls to reign him in.
Traditional Conservative
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> Trident wrote:
>> Begining to look and feel like a dictatorship. All that's needed now
>> is another terrorist attack followed by Marshall Law.
>
> Sort of like rebuilding Germany and Japan then, you're saying.
>
Trident
Something no one really wants to acknowledge and talk about: only
Congress has the authority to declare war, and they never really did
that did they? What they did do was grant Bush the authority to use
whatever force necessary to deal with Saddam - but as we now know:
they were lied to and manipulated. With his approval going down fast,
expect to see some of them to begin growing a backbone.
Oh, and Raw Story is working on something quite interesting at the
moment: "Washington on edge over Rove, again... Networks plan to
stake out courthouse Friday... Developing hard...."
I smell a Rove indictment. Either that or a press conference by
Fitzgerald telling everyone that he just does not have a solid enough
case to go through with it - but Vegas odds seem to be on the former
:-)
Trident
Traditional Conservative
>
> I smell a Rove indictment. Either that or a press conference by
> Fitzgerald telling everyone that he just does not have a solid enough
> case to go through with it - but Vegas odds seem to be on the former
> :-)
>
complete list of Bush scandals in progress?
Trident
TheEvilEmpire
designed to keep this country form suffering another 9/11, is an IDIOT.
The security of the country is the first and foremost consideration ...if
you're not doing anything wrong, WHY WORRY ?
With the MILLIONS of phonecalls and other electronic communications taking
place in this country everyday ...why would anyone even dream that "they
could be listening to ME !!!" ?
Its physically IMPOSSIBLE and ridiculous to think the government would try
to do so. The task would simply be too overwhelming.
If howerver you are listened to and you're pedding kiddie porn, drugs or
involved in planning other crimes ...GOOD !!! Your ass deserves to be
caught.
The real skinny is that this non-issue is just like every other non-issue
waltzed out by the Bush haters ...NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING !!!
WHINE ON !!!
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Trident
TheEvilEmpire wrote:
> Anyone who doesn't agree w/ the so called "domestic spying program",
> designed to keep this country form suffering another 9/11, is an IDIOT.
Says the absolute king of all idiots.
Fuck off Gordon. What the hell do you know about "fight'n terrorists"
anyway you big keyboard windbag. Do you really think they use
land-lines and cell phones to communicate and share their plans?
Gullible idiot.
Even the Republican leaders are lining up against this one:
>From Thinkprogress:
"Gingrich on NSA Phone Records Program: Administration's Conduct
Can't 'Be Defended By Reasonable People' »
The disclosure of the NSA's domestic call-tracking program has drawn
criticism from some of Bush's key allies:
House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH): "I am concerned about what
I read with regard to NSA databases of phone calls."
Rep. Deborah Pryce (R-OH): "While I support aggressively tracking
al-Qaida, the administration needs to answer some tough questions about
the protection of our civil liberties."
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC): "The idea of collecting millions or
thousands of phone numbers, how does that fit into following the
enemy?"
Last night on Fox, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich added his name to
the growing list of bipartisan critics of the program. "
I don't think the way they've handled this can be defended by
reasonable people. It is sloppy. It is contradictory, and frankly for
normal Americans, it makes no sense to listen to these three totally
different explanations."
You're such a fucking apologist for the Chimp Gordon. Unfucking
believable!!!
Trident
Traditional Conservative
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> Anyone who doesn't agree w/ the so called "domestic spying program",
> designed to keep this country form suffering another 9/11, is an IDIOT.
>
> The security of the country is the first and foremost consideration ...if
> you're not doing anything wrong, WHY WORRY ?
>
> With the MILLIONS of phonecalls and other electronic communications taking
> place in this country everyday ...why would anyone even dream that "they
> could be listening to ME !!!" ?
>
> Its physically IMPOSSIBLE and ridiculous to think the government would try
> to do so. The task would simply be too overwhelming.
>
> If howerver you are listened to and you're pedding kiddie porn, drugs or
> involved in planning other crimes ...GOOD !!! Your ass deserves to be
> caught.
>
> The real skinny is that this non-issue is just like every other non-issue
> waltzed out by the Bush haters ...NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING !!!
>
> WHINE ON !!!
>
analyzing those logs for "patterns" which haven't been defined. If you are
a customer of a participating TELCO, then your calls *have* been logged and
analyzed.
With any luck the computer will recognize some obscure pattern to your
calls. You will simply disappear to some clandestine location where you
will be tortured until they finally realize you know absolutely nothing.
Then, to keep from exposing the location and interrogation technique, you
will be shredded and flushed. Locally, you will be known as the milk
carton moron.
TheEvilEmpire
<"Do you really think they use land-lines and cell phones to communicate and
share their plans?">
Precisely why ALL forms of electronic communication are suspect TRIDUNCE
"With the MILLIONS of phonecalls and other electronic communications taking
place in this country everyday ..."
Is it possible that if such "spying" were in place pre-9/11 ...the attacks
could have been prevented ???
What a concept eh TRIDUNCE ...actual intelligence that may have prevented
9/11 ...it couldn't have hurt.
BTW TRIDUNCE ...how do you know what forms of communication terrorists use
???
Could YOU be a closet towelheaded camel jockey or just a sympathizer ?
Naaaaaaaaa ...you're just another MINDLESS Bush Hater ...What a BUFFOON !!!
Resume your WHINE ...IDJIT !!!
Trident
TheEvilEmpire wrote:
> TRIDUNCE blubbered:
>
> <"Do you really think they use land-lines and cell phones to communicate and
> share their plans?">
>
>
> Precisely why ALL forms of electronic communication are suspect TRIDUNCE
>
> "With the MILLIONS of phonecalls and other electronic communications taking
> place in this country everyday ..."
>
> Is it possible that if such "spying" were in place pre-9/11 ...the attacks
> could have been prevented ???
The attacks on 9/11 would have been prevented if Bush actually reacted
to the memo and briefing he received on Aug 6 stating that an attack
was imminent.
Oh wait, of course, Bush is innocent of any and all wrongdoing in your
eyes - always, right? No amount of evidence can ever shatter your
belief in his Royal Chimpness.
The wiretaps are illegal - without a court warrant. Get that bonehead:
ILLEGAL!!!
Maybe you personally don't mind living in the new Soviet Union - but
perhaps a few other Americans might not take so kindly to the idea.
Trident
Trident
TheEvilEmpire wrote:
>
> The real skinny is that this non-issue is just like every other non-issue
> waltzed out by the Bush haters ...NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING !!!
Yeah, sure. This sounds like nothing:
Thinkprogress
May 12, 2006
NSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: 'People...Are
Going To Be Shocked'
CongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify
to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week that not only do
employees at the agency believe the activities they are being asked to
perform are unlawful, but that what has been disclosed so far is only
the tip of the iceberg. Tice will tell Congress that former NSA head
Gen. Michael Hayden, Bush's nominee to be the next CIA director,
oversaw more illegal activity that has yet to be disclosed:
A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said
Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful
activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael
Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it
might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and
systems to spy on U.S. citizens. ...
[Tice] said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted
illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was
there with the knowledge of Hayden. ... "I think the people I talk to
next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell
them. It's pretty hard to believe," Tice said. "I hope that
they'll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these
programs, which doesn't exist right now." ...
Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance
Program that Bush acknowledged in December and from news accounts this
week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of
millions of Americans. "It's an angle that you haven't heard
about yet," he said. ... He would not discuss with a reporter the
details of his allegations, saying doing so would compromise classified
information and put him at risk of going to jail. He said he "will
not confirm or deny" if his allegations involve the illegal use of
space systems and satellites.
Tice has a history for blowing the whistle on serious misconduct. He
was one of the sources that revealed the administration's warrantless
domestic spying program to the New York Times.
>
> WHINE ON !!!
I'm sure that anyone who fought hard for their liberties and freedom is
simply a whiner to you. Says a lot about your values (or lack
thereof).
Trident
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TheEvilEmpire
the latest Liberal WHINE.
Perhaps a blankee wold help you little fella.
You never answered my towelhead question ...Abdul
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TheEvilEmpire
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TheEvilEmpire wrote:
> I'm sorry you're so frightened TRIDUNCE ...most American's don't care about
> the latest Liberal WHINE.
Most Americans have not been asked the right question Dickhead. One
poll so far, taken the day the story broke sampled 500 people and asked
if they support warrentless wiretapping to fight terrorism. Gee, I
wonder if you asked the same group if they supported illegal
wiretapping of American citizens what the result would be?
>
> Perhaps a blankee wold help you little fella.
Perhaps an enema would help you dislodge the shit you have backed up
all the way to your brain.
>
> You never answered my towelhead question ...Abdul
I don't respond to such racist questions.
Trident
TheEvilEmpire wrote:
> Back to shuffleboard dumbass ...that post was a waste of time.
How about this one then:
The Bush administrations position is "If you're not doing anything
wrong or illegal then you don't have anything to worry about from us
looking into your activities," which is a pretty ballsy statement
coming from an administration as secrecy-obsessed as this one. By that
standard it could be reasonably inferred that the Bush administration
must be doing lots and lots of things wrong and illegal all the time,
but snooping into private citizens affairs is apparently a one way
street, since none of us are even allowed to know who sat on Cheneys
"energy panel," which is information that would apparently "embolden
the terrorists" if the public had it. And Cheney works for us, at least
technically. Every week it seems these guys discover another "perfectly
legal" reason why they can do things no other administration could ever
do before.
Here are the articles of impeachment that drove Nixon out of office.
This stuff is milktoast compared to what BushCo is getting away with.
http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml
But then again, maybe this is too much for your pea brain to absorb.
Easier to give up your freedoms and let the Bin Laden win.
Trident
TheEvilEmpire
You wishy-washy liberal Bush-hating nitwit ...any other Washington Post
poll, most of which support your goofy position, you treat as the Holy Grail
... THIS one is wrong !!!
Bwahahahahahahaha !!!
Keep looking dimbulb I'm sure you can find some poll that makes your
foolishness valid in your mind, thereby moistening your panties and sending
you into euphoria ...IDIOT !!!
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Traditional Conservative
"TheEvilEmpire" <Gordon_Shumway@Planet_Melmac.net> wrote in message
> Back to shuffleboard dumbass ...that post was a waste of time.
>
that isn't even the case in this disclosure. Clearly you have no idea what
you are writing about.
Traditional Conservative
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> BULLSHIT !!!
>
> You wishy-washy liberal Bush-hating nitwit ...any other Washington Post
> poll, most of which support your goofy position, you treat as the Holy
> Grail ... THIS one is wrong !!!
>
> Bwahahahahahahaha !!!
>
> Keep looking dimbulb I'm sure you can find some poll that makes your
> foolishness valid in your mind, thereby moistening your panties and
> sending you into euphoria ...IDIOT !!!
This from someone who doesn't even know what the discussion is about?
C'mon.
TheEvilEmpire
non-issues.
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Traditional Conservative
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> Its about what all your tripe is about ...Bush-haters, WHINERS and
> non-issues.
You thought it was about the NSA listening-in on calls when in fact it was
about the NSA analyzing your connections in a data base looking for a
pattern. This is because you don't research issues, choosing instead to
stalk those that do. Your pattern is called "childish".
TheEvilEmpire
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Traditional Conservative
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> The NSA is doing BOTH asswipe !!!
>
TheEvilEmpire
If a politician is denying something, you can be absolutely sure he's doing
it.
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jack freeman
"TheEvilEmpire" <Gordon_Shumway@Planet_Melmac.net> wrote:
> I'm sorry you're so frightened TRIDUNCE ...most American's don't care about
> the latest Liberal WHINE.
Most Americans? HAHAHAHA! MOST Americans, by FAR, are
totally disgusted with the horrible neo-con handling of this country.
Your boys' latest polls numbers are a good example.
Read this and weep:
28% of the people in this country approve of GW Bush and Co.
That means that only ONE OUT OF FOUR people are happy with
Bush.
Now you tell me about most Americans.
And REPLY. NOW.
Traditional Conservative
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> Read this and weep:
>
> 28% of the people in this country approve of GW Bush and Co.
>
> That means that only ONE OUT OF FOUR people are happy with
> Bush.
>
libertarians upset over the privacy breaches and his Christian coalition
feeling betrayed he has only the NASCAR and disgraced neocon crowds firmly
in his fold.
TheEvilEmpire
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Trident
TheEvilEmpire wrote:
> OFF TOPIC Jackoff ...try to keep up eh ?
Actually it is all linked together birdbrain.
Times' Frank Rich: Any 'witch hunt' for traitors should begin in the
White House
RAW STORY
Published: Saturday May 13, 2006
Defending journalists who have been castigated as traitors for exposing
government blunders, New York Times columnist Frank Rich writes that
any "witch hunt" for traitors should begin in the White House, RAW
STORY has found.
"What really angers the White House and its defenders about both the
Post and Times scoops are not the legal questions the stories raise
about unregulated gulags and unconstitutional domestic snooping, but
the unmasking of yet more administration failures in a war effort
riddled with ineptitude," Rich writes.
"It's the recklessness at the top of our government, not the press'
exposure of it, that has truly aided the enemy, put American lives at
risk and potentially sabotaged national security," Rich continues.
"That's where the buck stops, and if there's to be a witch hunt for
traitors, that's where it should begin."
Ex-CIA Director Porter Goss should not be allowed to "escape into
retirement unexamined," Rich argues, calling him "so inept that an
overzealous witch hunter might mistake him for a Qaida double agent."
"His mission was not to protect our country but to prevent the airing
of administration dirty laundry, including leaks detailing how the
White House ignored accurate CIA intelligence on Iraq before the war,"
Rich writes.
Rich ends his column by suggesting that if Air Force General Michael
Hayden is confirmed by the Senate to replace Goss then "someone should
charge those senators with treason, too."
Excerpts from Rich's "Will The Real Traitors Please Stand Up?" set for
Sunday's edition of the New York Times:
#
When America panics, it goes hunting for scapegoats. But from Salem
onward, we've more often than not ended up pillorying the innocent. Abe
Rosenthal, the legendary New York Times editor who died last week, and
his publisher, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, were denounced as treasonous in
1971 when they defied the Nixon administration to publish the Pentagon
Papers, the secret government history of the Vietnam War. Today we know
who the real traitors were: the officials who squandered American blood
and treasure on an ill-considered war and then tried to cover up their
lies and mistakes. It was precisely those lies and mistakes, of course,
that were laid bare by the thousands of pages of classified Pentagon
documents leaked to both The Times and The Washington Post.
This history is predictably repeating itself now that the public has
turned on the war in Iraq. The administration's die-hard defenders are
desperate to deflect blame for the fiasco, and, guess what, the
traitors once again are The Times and The Post. This time the
newspapers committed the crime of exposing warrantless spying on
Americans by the National Security Agency (The Times) and the CIA's
secret "black site" Eastern European prisons (The Post). Aping the
Nixon template, the current White House tried to stop both papers from
publishing and when that failed impugned their patriotism.
#
Developing...
TheEvilEmpire
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jack freeman
"TheEvilEmpire" <Gordon_Shumway@Planet_Melmac.net> wrote:
> OFF TOPIC Jackoff ...try to keep up eh ?
Pretty good response time to my command - but I'm fairly
sure you can do better. REPLY. NOW!