What is "the nazz"?
Raymond Blackwell
In rhe song "Ziggy Stardust" Bowie sings, "The kids was just crass, he
was the nazz...". What does "nazz" mean?
Please post a response if you have any idea.
Martin Barry
trust...@aol.com (TrustElvis) wrote:
: " but maybe somebody from the UK could tell us . . . ?
the trouble with us here in the UK is that we have so many dialects
and different phrases, that someone in m/c may not only not understand
what someone from london exactly means, but may not understand what
they are saying. this is particularly prevelent when a guy first
joins the army.
i'm from m/c and i live in cambridge now, and i still don't know what
'the nazz' means - but i like the messianic idea, even though i don't
think its right!
i look forward to us figuring this out.
embe...@atcon.com
"the Nazz?"
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SherryeLin
(TrustElvis) writes:
>It's a British phrase is all I can say (obviously), but I don't want to
>presume I know what it means. I think it means "He thought he was the
>greatest," but maybe somebody from the UK could tell us . . . ?
Actually, it was also an American phrase, if in fact it was a British
phrase at all ( I don't recall). But your interpretation is correct.
One of my favorite '60's bands, by the way, was Todd Rundgren's band, "The
Nazz". But now we'll have people saying that Todd Rundgren ( who plays a
variety of instruments,including guitar) was Ziggy.
SherryeLin
kfp...@up.net
Nazz," probably 1967 or so. I agree, it must mean "the greatest."
Then there's the American rock group, the Nazz (featuring Todd
Rundgren), which always had a British bent.
TeddyB1018
The nazz is definitely short for Nazarethian as in Jesus. It was coined
or at least popularized by Lord Buckley in the fifties and might be
thought as of a beat or hep cat kind of jazz term.
Steve Krut
> But you can add Rundgren to the
>Bowie-influenced and influence-on-Bowie list.
>Blue eyed soulmen is just the lowest common
>denominator.
>Anybody who's ever heard the Nazz or Utopia and/or
>Adrian Belew and the Bears and/or the Buzzcocks and/or
>Wire and/or Thomas Dolby (I'm losing control) know where
>all were drawing from.
I have to disagree with this. I think Bowie and Todd Rundgren are two
good candidates for the "Artists Least Influenced By Each Other"
award. Sure Bowie got into Philadelphia soul like TR, but like TR it
was through black performers. Bowie's interpretation of blue-eyed
soul is completely different (and less convincing) than TR's.
Likewise, there's nothing Bowiesque about TR's music.
STEVEK
bP
(SherryeLin) wrote:
> Actually, it was also an American phrase, if in fact it was a British
> phrase at all ( I don't recall). But your interpretation is correct.
>
> One of my favorite '60's bands, by the way, was Todd Rundgren's band, "The
> Nazz". But now we'll have people saying that Todd Rundgren ( who plays a
> variety of instruments,including guitar) was Ziggy.
>
> SherryeLin
Todd Rundgren was Ziggy.
No, just kidding. But you can add Rundgren to the
Bowie-influenced and influence-on-Bowie list.
Blue eyed soulmen is just the lowest common
denominator.
Anybody who's ever heard the Nazz or Utopia and/or
Adrian Belew and the Bears and/or the Buzzcocks and/or
Wire and/or Thomas Dolby (I'm losing control) know where
all were drawing from. That was, without
a doubt, one of my favorite periods in music.
See what you made me do, SherryeLin...
as I drift afield of the original thread again,
bP
Kathy Stolaruk
: Raymond Blackwell (blac...@dbtech.net) wrote:
: : In rhe song "Ziggy Stardust" Bowie sings, "The kids was just crass, he
: : Please post a response if you have any idea.
If any of you are familiar with 311, there is a 311 song, "Brodels", that
contains the lyrics "The brodel is the nazz, and the nazz knows where
it's at." Someone on alt.music.311 said that "nazz" means cool, hip, the
shit, etc.
Lars Reynold
SherryeLin wrote in a message to All:
>It's a British phrase is all I can say (obviously), but I don't want to
>presume I know what it means. I think it means "He thought he was the
>greatest," but maybe somebody from the UK could tell us . . . ?
S> Actually, it was also an American phrase, if in fact it was a
S> British phrase at all ( I don't recall). But your interpretation is
S> correct.
S> One of my favorite '60's bands, by the way, was Todd Rundgren's
S> band, "The Nazz". But now we'll have people saying that Todd
S> Rundgren ( who plays a variety of instruments,including guitar) was
S> Ziggy.
Yes, and Ziggy was the original Alice Cooper Band as they first called themself
The Nazz, back in 1964.
//Lars
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bP
> > b...@a.f.d-b (bP) wrote:
> >[some TR-DB comparison]
>
>[some disagreement.]
> STEVEK
Drop "Fashion" on your turntable and
kick it up to 45 r.p.m.
Damned if it doesn't sound like
"Hammer In My Heart" by Utopia.
In reality, Bowie may have been more
influenced vocally by Anthony Newley
more than any Philly soul purveyor.
My main point was that Scary Monsters
was a watershed album for that period
with that particular brand of music, and
Utopia was a lot closer to being Scary
Monsters Lite than they were to being
the Tubes.
For two people that have nothing in common,
as you suggest, for two people who started at
a similar moment in rock history; both whose
songs are driven and delivered with a particular
techno edge; both who have explored unconventional
song structures; both who deliberately craft songs
that reflect a certain amount of ironic detachment;
both who have had career highlights as blue-eye soul
singers; both who have certainly _heard_ each other's
work, that this evidence persuades even the casual
observer of some prima facie similarity.....
but I've taken this thread far enough off topic already.
Regards,
bP
Bengt Bischof
kfp...@up.net hat geschrieben:
: I think the Small Faces had a song called something like "Here Comes the
I guess that must be 'Here comes the niece'. It's featured on the soundtrack of
'Tonite let's all make love in London', 'Peter Whitehead's definitive statement
on the [something with 'swinging']'. 1967 is about correct. It was mostly Pink
Floyd's 'Interstellar Overdrive', written by Syd Barrett, so finally there's
even a connection to DB...
: Then there's the American rock group, the Nazz (featuring Todd
: Rundgren), which always had a British bent.
Todd had an argument with John Lennon over one of his albums, the latter of
which once recorded a song with DB. Thought you might want to know.
Bengt
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TagoMago
Here is what I've heard:
The Nazz is a term referring to Nazareth. Somebody told me that it had
something to do with Ziggy's messiah-esque imagery. I personally try to
avoid biblical references and I think they are generally pretty trite,
but maybe it is a slang term (in Britain or wherever) meaning "the
greatest" which originally derived from Nazareth.
SherryeLin
In article <bP-280695...@news.cris.com>, b...@a.f.d-b (bP) writes:
>Todd Rundgren was Ziggy.
>No, just kidding. But you can add Rundgren to the
>Bowie-influenced and influence-on-Bowie list.
>Blue eyed soulmen is just the lowest common
>denominator.
I recall that they originally met at Max's Kansas City in New York in the
early '70's...They hung around with the same group of people, including
Todd's ex-wife or present wife...Was it BeBe Buell? And isn't she Liv
Tyler's Mother? (Obviously we know the story about Liv's real father;
Steve Somebody...) I'm trying to remember the "crowd" -- I'll have to
pull out the old magazine collection and recheck my info.
SherryeLin
Steve Krut
b...@a.f.d-b (bP) wrote:
It's true they have superficial commonalities, I just happen to think
it doesn't go much beyond that.
STEVEK
Martyn King
Hello Bengt,
BB>: I think the Small Faces had a song called something like "Here Comes the
BB>: Nazz," probably 1967 or so. I agree, it must mean "the greatest."
The "Nazz" actually mean "Fool". It's taken from the book "A Clockwork
Orange".
I hope this helps.
S'long,
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neo rakgajane
'The Nazz' is a track by Lord Buckley, a comedian.
He influenced a lot of rock bands from the psychedelic era.
From Youtube: https://youtu.be/U0x5x8lyON8
From Wikipedia:
Ed Sullivan reflected, "he was impractical as many of his profession are, but the vivid Buckley will long be remembered by all of us."[16][17]
"The jingle-jangle morning" in "Mr. Tambourine Man" is a phrase Bob Dylan said he took from Lord Buckley.[18] from the line, "Jingle jangle bells all over", in "Scrooge."[19]
Early in his career Dylan performed "Black Cross", one of Lord Buckley's signature pieces, originally written in 1948 by Joseph S. Newman.[20][21][22] Dylan's version is one of the tracks on the 1969 bootleg recording Great White Wonder.[23]
Composer David Amram composed a concerto for alto saxophone and orchestra titled Ode to Lord Buckley, and dedicated it to Buckley's memory.
Arlo Guthrie has cited Lord Buckley and Bill Cosby as the primary inspirations behind his magnum opus, "Alice's Restaurant".[24]
George Harrison's solo song "Crackerbox Palace" was inspired by Buckley's former home in Los Angeles. The song mentions Buckley in the line "know well the Lord is well and inside of you", as well as Buckley's manager George Grief.[25]
Jimmy Buffett performed a version of Buckley's "God's Own Drunk" on his 1974 album Living and Dying in 3/4 Time and it became a signature piece for him until the release of Margaritaville in 1977. On his 1978 live album You Had to Be There, Buffett states that the song is performed "with much respect to Lord Richard Buckley." Buffett has performed his version less frequently since being sued for copyright infringement by Buckley's son in 1983. This lawsuit prompted the writing of "The Lawyer and the Asshole". [1]
In his acceptance speech at the Second Annual Comedy Hall Of Fame Awards, comedian George Carlin mentioned a long list of his comedy influences, and ended with "the great, great, great Lord Buckley". This can be heard in the televised show.
His work has been sampled by the likes of Jaylib and Madvillain. A quote from 'The Gasser', saying "They didn't know where they was going but they knew where they was, wasn't it", was sampled in "Everyday Robots" by British singer and Blur frontman Damon Albarn, the lead single from his debut solo album of the same name. Coldcut's "70 Minutes of Madness" mix contains a sample of Lord Buckley's monologue on religion.[26]
In November 2015, City Lights released a new edition of Hiparama of the Classics. First published in 1960, this new expanded edition contains, in addition to Buckley's hip-semantic raps, a new foreword by Al Young and photographs by legendary music photographers Jim Marshall, Jerry Stoll, amongst others.[citation needed]
A feature-length documentary, Too Hip for the Room: The Righteous Reign of Lord Buckley was released in 2016.[27]
jimmy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazz
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