Re: Any Company/Manufacturer *Capable* of *Outsourcing* to CHINA would be Crazy NOT to!
Alphonso
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> "(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <a...@e.com>
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>> Any Company/Manufacturer *Capable* of
>> *Outsourcing* to CHINA would be Crazy NOT to!
>>
>> Just LOOK at all the ***PERKS!!***:
>>
> -- NO payrolls to meet!
> -- NO withholding taxes to deal with and waste time on.
> -- NO Social Security to pay.
> -- NO Unemployment Insurance costs.
> -- NO pension contributions to make.
> -- NO messing around with 401-ks or IRAs.
> -- NO employee disputes to resolve.
> -- NO hiring and firing problems.
> -- NO company rules to enforce.
> -- NO government rules pertaining to employees. **Maybe there are
> some
> rules.
> -- NO union hassles!!
> -- NO *OSHA* hassles, threats, or extra expense.
> -- Possible EPA hassles either reduced or nonexistent.
> -- Much EASIER tax situations to work with.
> -- Products cost less due to much lower labor costs
> in the Chinese factory.
> -- Products that cost the company less to manufacture
> can be SOLD for lower prices to the distributors
> and /or consumers. Thus, the company is FAR more
> competitive in the marketplaces vs. the products of
> companies that are made in the USA.
> -- The Consumers make out fine by getting the product
> far more inexpensively.
> ________________
> I agree that it is often more cost-effective to outsource, but there
> are pitfalls.
> When you outsource, you give up control of some things that you may
> want to control. You don't always get what you want if you depend on
> someone else to do it. If H&R Block outsourced their business to
> Turban Tax (or H&R Gupta) in India or some firm in China, it might
> create a lot of problems.
>
> Also if you outsource manufacturing to China, you incur shipping costs
> to get it back to the U.S. market.
>
> It all depends on what you are trying to outsource--one size does not
> fit all. But when it works, it is probably the way to go in keeping
> down costs.
Just ask Cisco. Half the Cisco equipment in the world is counterfit since
they moved operations to China.
The other problem they have is the fag culture in Cisco.
Can someone help me understand what diversity means at Cisco Systems?
1. Frank Turek, a management and team-building trainer, was dismissed by
Cisco for reasons completely unrelated to his job performance.
2. The reason for his dismissal was his religious and political views,
none of which was ever brought up on the job.
3. Cisco loudly trumpets its value of inclusion and diversity.
4. The company has reportedly failed to respond to private and open
letters asking how this firing reflects a mindset of diversity and
inclusion.
5. Cisco�s Senior Director of Inclusion and Diversity reportedly �refused
to do anything to address the cultural factors that contributed to the
firing, she refused to even consider the possibility that the Cisco
culture was decidedly tilted toward intolerant political correctness�the
soil from which the firing sprouted.�
6. This same executive, Mary Nagel, is reported to have said, �Our culture
is very welcoming of all points of view. We don�t have any particular
political perspective on the issues of same-sex marriage or any of the
other issues.� Yet Frank Turek was fired because of his views on this
issue. She is also reported to have said,
Because we believe that it has to be an employee environment where
everyone is welcome, we do discourage discussions around strongly held
political beliefs or religious beliefs in group settings within Cisco
other than certain forums, and so we�re very sensitive about protecting
our culture of acceptance of everyone, we don�t want anyone to ever feel
excluded and that means all opinions, and I really believe that�s what
inclusion is all about�.
There is a reason that we don�t have political discussions on our campus,
and that is because we find that they can be divisive and so we choose to
allow people to have those conversations informally or off campus.
7. Frank Turek had never initiated any of these �discouraged� discussions.
8. Turek not only felt excluded on the basis of his opinions, he was
literally shown the door.
9. Cisco�s policy of discouraging such discussions was not applied to this
LGBT discussion.
10. Cisco not only opened its doors for this discussion; a senior
executive, the company�s vice-president of segment marketing, led part of
it.
11. There is no sign there was anyone there to represent diversity in the
form of differing points of view.
12. My search of the company�s website for any comparably open door to
Christian gatherings turned up nothing.
13. My search of the company�s website for any comparable Christians�
advocates network also turned up nothing.
14. Another vice-president (small business marketing) is listed on Cisco�s
website under �Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender and Advocates
Network.� He serves on the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight
Education Network).
15. Cisco�s Inclusion and Diversity Executive Board lists no place for any
religious group or interest.
16. Ms. Nagel reportedly told Frank Turek and Mike Adams, �We appreciate
that people bring differences as long as they don�t make others feel
unwelcome or act in a manner that�s disrespectful toward others, so I
appreciate your feeling about this and your concern and I can only suggest
that you take a look at some of the stuff that we put on our website.�
17. Cisco�s website displays one of its invited speakers, a gay
politician, urging a �no� vote on Proposition 8.
18. Numbers 6,16, and 17 are difficult to square with each other.
19. One journalist�s conclusion:
So Cisco, which claims to take no position on same-sex marriage, invites
in and pays gay politicians and gay activists to speak in favor of same-
sex marriage. You do this in a �forum� held on the Cisco campus and led by
a Cisco Vice President � a �collaboration forum�, which does not
collaborate with a speaker from the other side of a politically divisive
issue. And yet those who have spoken against same-sex marriage, off campus
and not in any way representing Cisco, are fired.
20. My phone call to Ms. Nagel�s office was not answered, and my message
requesting a callback was not returned.
I have spoken with Frank Turek about this. I will have more to share about
his perspective�which I guarantee will not be what you expect�in an
upcoming blog post.
http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2011/06/what-do-diversity-and-inclusion-
mean-at-cisco-systems/
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"Alphonso" <acgo...@acgtechnologies.com> wrote:
> The other problem they have is the fag culture in Cisco.
You just DESTROYED any and all credilbilty you may have had.
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