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art...@yahoo.com

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Jan 5, 2011, 9:41:30 AM1/5/11
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OK what does this mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0eZwpHtcK4

Google links it with some music downloads but that album is from 1993
(Is that the original album cover?)
Maybe the Band just liked that phrase and others decided it was good
for some downloading site?

floorpla...@gmail.com

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Dec 16, 2014, 9:37:30 PM12/16/14
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Not the original album cover. Youtuber must have added it.

Bill Turlock

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Dec 17, 2014, 12:30:03 AM12/17/14
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:37:29 -0800 (PST), floorpla...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 9:41:30 AM UTC-5

wait—what?

Greg Goss

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Dec 17, 2014, 1:35:41 AM12/17/14
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Individual.net is unable to pull up the message from its reference.
But if you're talking about nineties music album, age is really no
object.
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We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.

Whiskers

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Dec 21, 2014, 4:54:33 PM12/21/14
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Well it is a fair example of the term "drekly" in the Cornish dialect of
English, being applied to replying to a usenet article.

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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

Les Albert

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Dec 21, 2014, 11:19:09 PM12/21/14
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On 21 Dec 2014 21:54:32 GMT, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
wrote:
>On 2014-12-17, Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:37:29 -0800 (PST), floorpla...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 9:41:30 AM UTC-5

>> wait?what?

>Well it is a fair example of the term "drekly" in the Cornish dialect of
>English, being applied to replying to a usenet article.


Wasn't that a film by Ingmar Bergaman, "Through a Glass Drekly"?

Les



Whiskers

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Dec 22, 2014, 9:45:16 AM12/22/14
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I once heard or read an SF story involving "slow glass", which
accidentally slowed down light passing through it by several seconds.
This was noticed when the glass was used in car windscreens, contact
lenses, etc.

Hactar

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Dec 22, 2014, 11:08:04 AM12/22/14
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In article <slrnm9gbjp.8...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-12-22, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On 21 Dec 2014 21:54:32 GMT, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>On 2014-12-17, Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:37:29 -0800 (PST), floorpla...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 9:41:30 AM UTC-5
> >
> >>> wait?what?
> >
> >>Well it is a fair example of the term "drekly" in the Cornish dialect of
> >>English, being applied to replying to a usenet article.
> >
> > Wasn't that a film by Ingmar Bergaman, "Through a Glass Drekly"?
>
> I once heard or read an SF story involving "slow glass", which
> accidentally slowed down light passing through it by several seconds.
> This was noticed when the glass was used in car windscreens, contact
> lenses, etc.

I read that. They would place the glass in a field for years before
installing it in a house, so the occupants would see a field when they
looked out (at least for a few years).

--
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LIBRA: A big promotion is just around the corner for someone
much more talented than you. Laughter is the very best medicine,
remember that when your appendix bursts next week. -- Weird Al

Les Albert

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Dec 22, 2014, 12:20:16 PM12/22/14
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On 22 Dec 2014 14:45:13 GMT, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
wrote:

>On 2014-12-22, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On 21 Dec 2014 21:54:32 GMT, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>On 2014-12-17, Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:37:29 -0800 (PST), floorpla...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 9:41:30 AM UTC-5
>>
>>>> wait?what?
>>
>>>Well it is a fair example of the term "drekly" in the Cornish dialect of
>>>English, being applied to replying to a usenet article.
>>
>>
>> Wasn't that a film by Ingmar Bergaman, "Through a Glass Drekly"?
>>
>> Les
>
>I once heard or read an SF story involving "slow glass", which
>accidentally slowed down light passing through it by several seconds.
>This was noticed when the glass was used in car windscreens, contact
>lenses, etc.


"Sometimes they don't laugh" - Elaine Benes

Les

Charles Bishop

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Dec 22, 2014, 1:20:30 PM12/22/14
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I don't know about "several seconds". However the glass did slow down
light and there were people who were "loading" the glass with different
scenes for windows, to give a great view where there wasn't one. The
glass of course went both ways and you could see the "view" from either
side.

The story I remember was about a man who comes on a house somewhere with
no neighbors. As he walks up to the door, he can see, through a window,
a well kept house. He knocks on the door and though the man inside
doesn't want to let him in he finally gets inside. What he sees then is
a house in disrepair with trash strewn about and no evidence of
housekeeping. This is explained when he looks "outside" and sees a
mother and child playing in the meadow.

The mother and child had previously died and the man in the house kept
the window as a memory album.

I think there were several stories in the series, but that's the one I
remember. Analog, probably

Boron Elgar

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Dec 22, 2014, 1:41:06 PM12/22/14
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Whiskers

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Dec 22, 2014, 4:27:12 PM12/22/14
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As in "Seinfeld"?

I think I came across the idea in Bob Shaw's "Other Days, Other Eyes"
but that isn't the first time it was used
<http://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/slow_glass>

Rick B.

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Dec 22, 2014, 5:29:11 PM12/22/14
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Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
news:slrnm9gbjp.8...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:

> I once heard or read an SF story involving "slow glass",

It doesn't flow as quickly as regular glass?
[ducks and runs]

Bill Turlock

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Dec 22, 2014, 6:40:30 PM12/22/14
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:20:26 -0800, Charles Bishop
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
chemical to the water... it wouldn't.

They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.

So, one guy predicted that _he_ was going to start the chain, but he
died before doing so. Since his _intent_ was still valid, as the date
approached, water started to be attracted to the chemical, but it had
for some reason been sequestered. Intense flooding ensued.

Hactar

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Dec 23, 2014, 10:08:04 AM12/23/14
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In article <gdah9atn26hknbrkp...@4ax.com>,
Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
>
> I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
> chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
> to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
> chemical to the water... it wouldn't.
>
> They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
> That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
> a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
> enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.

Ooh, title, author, main character, publishing venue, anything?

Greg Goss

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Dec 23, 2014, 12:41:54 PM12/23/14
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Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> "slow glass"

>The story I remember was about a man who comes on a house somewhere with
>no neighbors. As he walks up to the door, he can see, through a window,
>a well kept house. He knocks on the door and though the man inside
>doesn't want to let him in he finally gets inside. What he sees then is
>a house in disrepair with trash strewn about and no evidence of
>housekeeping. This is explained when he looks "outside" and sees a
>mother and child playing in the meadow.
>
>The mother and child had previously died and the man in the house kept
>the window as a memory album.
>
>I think there were several stories in the series, but that's the one I
>remember. Analog, probably

I remember that one, and another mood piece where a police
investigator watches a ten-year-old view of a murder scene to confirm
that the guy who was executed eight years ago really was the one who
did it.

Greg Goss

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Dec 23, 2014, 12:45:00 PM12/23/14
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ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

>In article <gdah9atn26hknbrkp...@4ax.com>,
>Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
>>
>> I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
>> chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
>> to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
>> chemical to the water... it wouldn't.
>>
>> They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
>> That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
>> a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
>> enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.
>
>Ooh, title, author, main character, publishing venue, anything?

Asimov. The original story was "The endochronic properties of
resublimated thiotimolene". There were a few sequels, probably
including the one Bill is citing.

Asimov had requested that the original story be published under a
pseudonym because he was afraid that parodying formal science would
undermine his PhD process.

Les Albert

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Dec 23, 2014, 12:57:25 PM12/23/14
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:45:02 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
>>Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:

>>> I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
>>> chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
>>> to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
>>> chemical to the water... it wouldn't.
>>> They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
>>> That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
>>> a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
>>> enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.

>>Ooh, title, author, main character, publishing venue, anything?

>Asimov. The original story was "The endochronic properties of
>resublimated thiotimolene". There were a few sequels, probably
>including the one Bill is citing.
>Asimov had requested that the original story be published under a
>pseudonym because he was afraid that parodying formal science would
>undermine his PhD process.


I remember when that title first appeared. It was in Astounding
Science Fiction but it wasn't a story; it was published as an article
in that magazine around 1948 or 1949.

Les

snide...@gmail.com

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Dec 23, 2014, 1:27:37 PM12/23/14
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On Sunday, December 21, 2014 1:54:33 PM UTC-8, Whiskers wrote:
> On 2014-12-17, Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:37:29 -0800 (PST), floorpla...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 9:41:30 AM UTC-5
> >
> > wait—what?
>
> Well it is a fair example of the term "drekly" in the Cornish dialect of
> English, being applied to replying to a usenet article.

As opposed to indrekly, going the long way around the barn?

/dps

Hactar

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Dec 24, 2014, 12:08:04 PM12/24/14
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In article <spaj9a5s5gsckhn3i...@4ax.com>,
Excellent, thank you. Where can I find a original or scanned copy of a
half-century-old magazineP

Hactar

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Dec 24, 2014, 12:08:05 PM12/24/14
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In article <cfto0q...@mid.individual.net>,
Thanks. Nit: "thiotimoline".

Les Albert

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Dec 24, 2014, 12:35:58 PM12/24/14
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:16:34 -0500, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
wrote:
Here is some more info. It was the March 1948 issue of Astounding
Science Fiction where the article appeared. Here are some additional
sources that you can search for:

"The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline" and Asimov's
notes appear in The Early Asimov, Volume 2.

(Amazon has "The Early Asimov - book 2" for as little as a 1 cent.)

"The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline" and "The
Micropsychiatric Applications of Thiotimoline" appear together as "The
Marvellous Properties of Thiotimoline" in Only a Trillion.
"Thiotimoline and the Space Age" appears in Opus 100.
"Thiotimoline to the Stars" appears in Buy Jupiter and Other Stories.



Les



Charles Bishop

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Dec 24, 2014, 1:52:09 PM12/24/14
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In article <v65rmb-...@pc.home>, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
wrote:

> In article <cfto0q...@mid.individual.net>,
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> > ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
> >
> > >In article <gdah9atn26hknbrkp...@4ax.com>,
> > >Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
> > >> chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
> > >> to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
> > >> chemical to the water... it wouldn't.
> > >>
> > >> They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
> > >> That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
> > >> a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
> > >> enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.
> > >
> > >Ooh, title, author, main character, publishing venue, anything?
> >
> > Asimov. The original story was "The endochronic properties of
> > resublimated thiotimolene". There were a few sequels, probably
> > including the one Bill is citing.
> >
> > Asimov had requested that the original story be published under a
> > pseudonym because he was afraid that parodying formal science would
> > undermine his PhD process.
>
> Thanks. Nit: "thiotimoline".

Thanks for that. I thought it was -ine, but than -ene sounded more
chemical (double bond, dontcha know). Then -ine with the "l" reminded me
of timeline, but then I decided wot the hell, and didn't look anything
up, or risk a comment that could be wrong. Still, I was right in my mind.

--
charles

Charles Bishop

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Dec 24, 2014, 1:52:47 PM12/24/14
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In article <2g5rmb-...@pc.home>, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
wrote:
If I can find the box it's in. . .

--
charles

Hactar

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Dec 24, 2014, 2:08:06 PM12/24/14
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In article <rstl9ad47crt9aa0e...@4ax.com>,
I'm pretty sure the school library has _Astounding_, but I can't find
jack using their search. My wife (still a student there) found some in
Special Collections, but I'm going to show up there and ask if they have
one that she can take out of the library, or at least make heavy use of a
photocopy machine.

> "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline" and "The
> Micropsychiatric Applications of Thiotimoline" appear together as "The
> Marvellous Properties of Thiotimoline" in Only a Trillion.
> "Thiotimoline and the Space Age" appears in Opus 100.
> "Thiotimoline to the Stars" appears in Buy Jupiter and Other Stories.

Thanks, they're next.

[1] Gee, a Comp Sci grad who sucks at library searches? Quelle surprise.

Tim Wright

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Dec 24, 2014, 3:24:46 PM12/24/14
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There are some stories available online.

http://www.kkbooks.net/ScienceFiction/Asimov43/27447.html

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"This .sig file intentionally left blank."

Tim W

Bill Turlock

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Dec 24, 2014, 6:47:45 PM12/24/14
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:52:05 -0800, Charles Bishop
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Still, I was right in my mind.

Congratulations. Few of us ever achieve that goal!

bill van

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Dec 24, 2014, 7:14:01 PM12/24/14
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In article <v3km9al4gh6g8o7br...@4ax.com>,
Is that one of those left brain things?
--
bill

Bill Turlock

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Dec 24, 2014, 10:21:01 PM12/24/14
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:14:00 -0800, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
wrote:
Sorta. I usually have a hard time remembering where I left my brain.

Hactar

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In article <vh0n9a9df2gqiu8b1...@4ax.com>,
Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:14:00 -0800, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <v3km9al4gh6g8o7br...@4ax.com>,
> > Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:52:05 -0800, Charles Bishop
> >> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Still, I was right in my mind.
> >>
> >> Congratulations. Few of us ever achieve that goal!
> >
> >Is that one of those left brain things?
>
> Sorta. I usually have a hard time remembering where I left my brain.

That's like not being able to see your lost glasses, right?

Kerr Mudd-John

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Dec 25, 2014, 4:55:34 AM12/25/14
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simply look through some 50year thick glass?

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Bah, and indeed, Humbug

Kerr Mudd-John

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Dec 25, 2014, 4:56:45 AM12/25/14
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I have half a mind to agree with this post.

art...@yahoo.com

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Dec 25, 2014, 2:05:48 PM12/25/14
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On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:21:01 PM UTC-5, Bill Turlock wrote:

> Sorta. I usually have a hard time remembering where I left my brain.
I have a chip implanted in my brain in case that happens.

Alfalfa Bill

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Dec 25, 2014, 3:09:53 PM12/25/14
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Think, man! When you left home this morning did you have your brain with you?

Bill Turlock

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Dec 25, 2014, 3:59:34 PM12/25/14
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I think not...

bill van

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Dec 25, 2014, 4:39:44 PM12/25/14
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In article <khuo9atd4ot4gnogn...@4ax.com>,
Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 12:09:52 -0800 (PST), Alfalfa Bill
> <tedth...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:21:01 PM UTC-6, Bill Turlock wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:14:00 -0800, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <v3km9al4gh6g8o7br...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:52:05 -0800, Charles Bishop
> >> >> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Still, I was right in my mind.
> >> >>
> >> >> Congratulations. Few of us ever achieve that goal!
> >> >
> >> >Is that one of those left brain things?
> >>
> >> Sorta. I usually have a hard time remembering where I left my brain.
> >
> >
> >Think, man! When you left home this morning did you have your brain with
> >you?
>
> I think not...

I thought not.
--
bill

D.F. Manno

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Dec 25, 2014, 10:26:22 PM12/25/14
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Hactar <ebenZ...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
>>
>> I remember an SF story, where someone disscovered that a particular
>> chemical concoction disolved a few milliseconds _before_ it was added
>> to water. And, if the handler had had no intention of adding the
>> chemical to the water... it wouldn't.
>>
>> They decided to make prediction machine around this behavior.
>> That is, a person would firmly resolve to start the chain (kinda like
>> a domino effect) if the Dow-Jones hit a certain value, say. If you had
>> enough of these chains, you could accurately "predict" the future.
>
> Ooh, title, author, main character, publishing venue, anything?

The chemical was called "thiotimoline," and the author was Isaac Asimov. He
wrote four stories about it; the one about its predictive capabilities was
"Thiotimoline and the Space Age."
--
D.F. Manno

Hactar

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Dec 26, 2014, 12:08:04 AM12/26/14
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In article <khuo9atd4ot4gnogn...@4ax.com>,
Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 12:09:52 -0800 (PST), Alfalfa Bill
> <tedth...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:21:01 PM UTC-6, Bill Turlock wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:14:00 -0800, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <v3km9al4gh6g8o7br...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Bill Turlock <billt...@billturlock.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:52:05 -0800, Charles Bishop
> >> >> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Still, I was right in my mind.
> >> >>
> >> >> Congratulations. Few of us ever achieve that goal!
> >> >
> >> >Is that one of those left brain things?
> >>
> >> Sorta. I usually have a hard time remembering where I left my brain.
> >
> >
> >Think, man! When you left home this morning did you have your
> brain with you?
>
> I think not...

Poof! He disappears in a puff of logic.

Bill Turlock

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