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Kim

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Aug 12, 2009, 11:21:27 AM8/12/09
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OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least since
the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??" It's a girl
(of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
myself..that's another rant...)

So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"

Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
"Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
don't NAME her that. When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
started early.

So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??

Scenic.

Yes, Scenic.

Scenic Lynn, in fact.

So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
name you couldn't OVERLOOK."

Idiot.

--
Kim
www.thedarwinexception.wordpress.com
*I used 30 gallons of hot water to rinse a peanut butter jar. I enjoy the
irony of recycling. Now you know that about me too.*


Lisa Ann

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Aug 12, 2009, 11:54:51 AM8/12/09
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"Kim" <darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
> give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least
> since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??" It's
> a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
> myself..that's another rant...)
>
> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>
> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
> enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
> stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
> descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
> "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
> don't NAME her that. When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
> name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
> started early.
>
> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
> Scenic.
>
> Yes, Scenic.
>
> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> Idiot.

Careful, now they're probably going to change her middle name. You'll have
a niece named Scenic Overlook MiParentsaridiots.

Lisa Ann


Bill Bonde { 'by a commodius vicus of recirculation' )

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:09:40 PM8/12/09
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Kim wrote:
>
> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
> give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least since
> the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??" It's a girl
> (of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
> myself..that's another rant...)
>
> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>
> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
> enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
> stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
> descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
> "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
> don't NAME her that.
>

At least not in English. You could name your daughter "Gloria" and
it wouldn't cause a fuss.

> When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
> name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
> started early.
>
> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
> Scenic.
>
> Yes, Scenic.
>
> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> Idiot.
>

Obviously conceived in a room with a view. Yea, there's a million
of them.

Greg Goss

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:42:34 PM8/12/09
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"Kim" <darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:

>you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
>started early.

...


>Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
>So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
>name you couldn't OVERLOOK."

Yup. Stripper pole territory.

Actually, the Vancouver geek clique that I used to hang out in had two
hikes that we used to take. Lynn Creek has two major parks on it.
Lynn Headwaters was one of the favourites, and we went over the bridge
once.

http://www.district.north-van.bc.ca/ecology/see_do/see_do.html
http://www.britishcolumbia.com/parks/?id=488
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Kajikit

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:48:05 PM8/12/09
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:21:27 -0400, "Kim"
<darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
>give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least since
>the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??" It's a girl
>(of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
>myself..that's another rant...)
>
>So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>
>Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
>enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
>stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
>descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
>"Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
>don't NAME her that. When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
>name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
>started early.
>
>So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
>Scenic.
>
>Yes, Scenic.
>
>Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
>So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
>name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
>Idiot.

There's a long tradition of naming your baby for a virtue that you'd
like them to have... 'Faith' 'Hope' Patience' etc etc etc. The
'adjective' names are a modern extension of that and they're not
really anything to take note of. But 'Scenic' is a new one one me - is
he hoping she'll be a looker? Or was she was conceived in the back
seat on a mountaintop? :P

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:59:22 PM8/12/09
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Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:

>
> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's
> due to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while
> - at least since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a
> boy or girl??" It's a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet
> could only give birth to boys myself..that's another rant...)
>
> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>
> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
> named after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes,
> your baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or
> "Heavenly" but for God's sake, don't NAME her that. When you give
> your baby daughter some goofy adjective name you might as well
> install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her started early.
>

I wonder how common the trend is. Maybe by the time the kids grow up,
adjective names will be normal and strippers will be named Thelma.


> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
> Scenic.
>

That's awesome.


> Yes, Scenic.
>
> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess
> that's a name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> Idiot.
>

I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people are
doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another Ashley
or Kayla to kick around.

--
Opus the Penguin
It's easy to resist temptation when it comes in the form of Budweiser.
- darkon

landotter

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:54:58 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 11:42 am, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

> "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
> >started early.
> ...
> >Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> >So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> >name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> Yup.  Stripper pole territory.

Heh, that's exactly what came to mind, a terrible thought to have
about a newborn. What's the brother gonna be named? Hunky?

Kim

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:59:26 PM8/12/09
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I honestly have no clue how the "short list" of names got down to "Scenic" -
although it does make me wonder what else made the list.

I had to have him spell it for me like 4 times before I got it. I thought he
was saying "Scene-it" like the game. And, in fact, I told him that it
sounded a lot like "Scene-it" and that I could see the whole thing playing
out in high school when she's the Ho and the new guy says "Hey! Look at
HER!" And all his new friends say "Yeah, Seen It."

And let's home the name "Nick" isn't popular in her class - you could end up
with an "A" Nick, a "B" Nick and then her - the "C" Nick.

What a stupid fucking name.


--
Kim
www.thedarwinexception.wordpress.com
* I wish I were a spy and evil people had come to my house and torn it
apart looking for secrets. Then at least I'd have an excuse for it
looking that way.*


Kim

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:03:39 PM8/12/09
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Opus the Penguin wrote:

>>
>
> I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people
> are doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another
> Ashley or Kayla to kick around.

Yeah........well........I hope you end up with grandkids named "Luscious"
and "Trumpet".

So there.

plausible prose man

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:06:02 PM8/12/09
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Historical.

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:20:19 PM8/12/09
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Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:

> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough
>> people are doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats
>> having another Ashley or Kayla to kick around.
>
> Yeah........well........I hope you end up with grandkids named
> "Luscious" and "Trumpet".
>
> So there.
>

I hate you.

--
Opus the Penguin
Well, that's not what I meant, but it looks like that's what I wrote. -
Charles Bishop

Arthur

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:18:53 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 1:03 pm, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
> > I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people
> > are doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another
> > Ashley or Kayla to kick around.
>
> Yeah........well........I hope you end up with grandkids named "Luscious"
> and "Trumpet".

I know someone whose legal name is "Luscious N Delicious" His birth
name is Scott (forget the last name)


Perhaps your niece will meet a nice Vietnamese man and her name will
be

Scenic Vu


Opus the Penguin

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:46:08 PM8/12/09
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Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:

> And let's home the name "Nick" isn't popular in her class - you
> could end up with an "A" Nick, a "B" Nick and then her - the "C"
> Nick.

Nicholas was the 29th most popular baby boy name in the US in 2008.
That's down from a high of number 6 in 2001.

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Opus the Penguin
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Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:43:05 PM8/12/09
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Kim wrote:

> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
> enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
> stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
> descriptive adjectives.

Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily adjectives:
Charity, Amity, August, Autumn, Bliss, Constant, Echo, Freedom, Grace,
Hopeful, Love, Lovejoy, Mehitabel, Orange, Patience, Prudence, Royal,
Ruby, Rusty, Tabitha, Thankful, Theophilus, Violet, and Wealthy.

Charles

landotter

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Paleolithic.

Arthur

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Rocky

Philippa

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Middle name: Marker.

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nor to succeed in order to persevere.

Charlie Pearce

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:48:49 PM8/12/09
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:59:26 -0400, "Kim"
<darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:

>I honestly have no clue how the "short list" of names got down to "Scenic" -
>although it does make me wonder what else made the list.
>
>I had to have him spell it for me like 4 times before I got it. I thought he
>was saying "Scene-it" like the game. And, in fact, I told him that it
>sounded a lot like "Scene-it" and that I could see the whole thing playing
>out in high school when she's the Ho and the new guy says "Hey! Look at
>HER!" And all his new friends say "Yeah, Seen It."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Renault_Scenic_silver_vl2.jpg

Charlie
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Dover Beach

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"Orange"?

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Snidely

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:51:58 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 10:43 am, "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote:

> Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
> given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily adjectives:

[...]
>
> Charles

Yeah, well, you start with a definite noun and in the middle kinda
cross a noun and an adjective.

My first name describes a condition or state of being, so it's pretty
much on the adjective side of things. And I don't get to share it
with as many kings as you share yours with.[1]

[1] English as she is spoke.

/dps

rroger

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:53:33 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 11:21 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

I agree TOTALLY; albeit about stupid names in general. I don't obsess
or anything but I've often wondered what celebs are smoking and/or
injecting when they name their kids.

Mark Steese

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Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:
>
>>
>> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's
>> due to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while
>> - at least since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a
>> boy or girl??" It's a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet
>> could only give birth to boys myself..that's another rant...)
>>
>> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>>
>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes,
>> your baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or
>> "Heavenly" but for God's sake, don't NAME her that. When you give
>> your baby daughter some goofy adjective name you might as well
>> install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her started early.
>
> I wonder how common the trend is. Maybe by the time the kids grow up,
> adjective names will be normal and strippers will be named Thelma.
>
>> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>>
>> Scenic.
>
> That's awesome.

Awesome? It isn't even euphonious. ("Euphonious"--now there's a
thought...)



>> Yes, Scenic.
>>
>> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>>
>> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess
>> that's a name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people
> are doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another
> Ashley or Kayla to kick around.

If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine. Inflicting the
name on a helpless infant is just mean.


--
Mark Steese
================================================================
If these people had tasted but a messe of Tewxbury mustard they would
surely haue honoured it for a God or feared it as a Diuell.
-John Taylor: The Praise of Hemp-Seed

Kim

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Aug 12, 2009, 2:02:11 PM8/12/09
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I like to think that Violet, Orange and Rusty are sisters.

Opus the Penguin

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Mark Steese (mark_...@yahoo.com) wrote:

> If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
> Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.

Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
'Gustav'"?

--
Opus the Penguin
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Dover Beach

Bill Turlock

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Aug 12, 2009, 2:12:23 PM8/12/09
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Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
> Mark Steese (mark_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
> > If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
> > Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.
>
> Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
> ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
> 'Gustav'"?
>

Or Gerhardt Adolf (b 1945, his father was an "Adolf")

landotter

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Aug 12, 2009, 2:20:16 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 1:12 pm, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid>
wrote:
> Opus the Penguin wrote:

>
> > Mark Steese (mark_ste...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
> > > If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
> > > Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.
>
> > Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
> > ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
> > 'Gustav'"?
>
> Or Gerhardt Adolf (b 1945, his father was an "Adolf")

One of my grandpaps was named Gerhardt. Cool name.

Roy Smith

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"Opus the Penguin" <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mark Steese (mark_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
>> If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
>> Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.
>
> Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
> ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
> 'Gustav'"?
>

My maternal grandfather's given name was Gustavus Adolphus. He was born in
what would become the Chech Republic, was probably Austria-Hungary, then.
He died while I was an infant, but from what other relatives have told me
about him he was the kindest, gentlist man around.

Roy


Wally Sevits

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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:21:27 -0400, "Kim"
<darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
>give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least since
>the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??" It's a girl
>(of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
>myself..that's another rant...)
>
>So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>

>Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
>enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
>stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid

>descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
>"Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
>don't NAME her that. When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
>name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
>started early.
>

>So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
>Scenic.
>

>Yes, Scenic.
>
>Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
>So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
>name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
>Idiot.

Coulda' been "Blanket" outta tribute to yadda, yadda, yadda.

Dodged that bullet alright.

plausible prose man

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Aug 12, 2009, 5:32:28 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 1:48 pm, Philippa <pphili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:06:02 -0700 (PDT), plausible prose man
>
>
>
>
>
> <Georgefha...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 12, 12:54 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 12, 11:42 am, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> >> > "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> > >you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
> >> > >started early.
> >> > ...
> >> > >Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> >> > >So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> >> > >name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> >> > Yup.  Stripper pole territory.
>
> >> Heh, that's exactly what came to mind, a terrible thought to have
> >> about a newborn. What's the brother gonna be named? Hunky?
>
> >Historical.
>
> Middle name: Marker.

"Springfield, a great place to live and work!"

Mark Steese

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"Bill Bonde { 'by a commodius vicus of recirculation' )"
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> Kim wrote:
>>
>> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due
>> to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at
>> least since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or
>> girl??" It's a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet could only
>> give birth to boys myself..that's another rant...)
>>
>> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>>
>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family
>> KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named
>> after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your
>> baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly"
>> but for God's sake, don't NAME her that.
>>

> At least not in English. You could name your daughter "Gloria" and
> it wouldn't cause a fuss.

Gloria means 'glory,' not 'glorious.' If you name a child "Gloriosa" and
you don't have the advantage of being Hispanic, it'll cause a little talk.
--
Mark Steese
=======================================================================
PS: Your second question, you thought I forgot? I didn't. I never found the
banana slug. - William Least Heat-Moon

Mark Steese

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Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Mark Steese (mark_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
>> If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
>> Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.
>
> Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
> ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
> 'Gustav'"?

Huh. Now that name, I have no objection to. It's certainly no worse than
'Mark.'

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Opus the Penguin wrote:
> Mark Steese (mark_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
>> If the mom wants to change her own name to Scenic, fine.
>> Inflicting the name on a helpless infant is just mean.
>
> Mrs. Penguin's grandfather used to complain about his name. He would
> ask, "How could you look at a sweet, innocent baby and call him
> 'Gustav'"?
>
Former Episcopal Priest in New York City named Theophilus Ringsmuth.
His father named him that because his first reaction was "That's the
awfullest baby I've ever seen".

Charles

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Aug 12, 2009, 6:54:17 PM8/12/09
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Richard Dimick b. 24 May, 1780, Ashford, CT, m. Abigail Spinning.
Their oldest son, b. 1803, was named Orange. He married someone named
Ester, but I don't have her last name in my data bank, and died 8 Dec.
1884, in Houndsfield, N.Y.

And don't forget Preserved Fish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preserved_Fish

Jim Beaver

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"rroger" <raus...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:96bfe903-f419-4747...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

"Celebs?" They're the ones who do this? No celebrity was behind naming my
first wife's aunt "Exasperalia." No celebrity named my high school friend
"Twilley" when that was also his last name.

Charlie Sheen's kids are named Cassandra, Lola, and Sam.
Robert Redford's kids are named Shauna, Amy, and James
Russell Crowe's kids are Spencer and Charles.
Ice-T's kids are Leticia and Tracy.
Philip Seymour Hoffman's kids are Cooper, Tallulah, and Willa.
Julianne Moore's kids are Caleb and Liv.
Britney Spears's kids are Sean and Jayden.
Will Smith's kids are Jaden, Willard, and Willow.
Phil Collins's kids are Simon, Joely, and Lily.

For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you fifty celebs
with kids whose names you would probably consider "normal."

Jim Beaver

Arthur

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Aug 12, 2009, 7:20:02 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 2:02 pm, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> Dover Beach wrote:
> > "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote in

> >news:h5uvf1$7rm$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >> Kim wrote:
>
> >>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> >>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
> >>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
> >>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives.
>
> >> Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
> >> given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily
> >> adjectives: Charity, Amity, August, Autumn, Bliss, Constant, Echo,
> >> Freedom, Grace, Hopeful, Love, Lovejoy, Mehitabel, Orange, Patience,
> >> Prudence, Royal, Ruby, Rusty, Tabitha, Thankful, Theophilus, Violet,
> >> and Wealthy.
>
> > "Orange"?
>
> I like to think that Violet, Orange and Rusty are sisters.

Are Violet and Orange named after nouns or adjectives?

QueBarbara

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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
<jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:

>For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you fifty celebs
>with kids whose names you would probably consider "normal."

Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter." I read an article a year or so
ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name their kids with
unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I wonder if the same
reasoning applies to non-celebs.

--
QueBarbara

Let's go down to the fairground before it's up and gone


Kim

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QueBarbara wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
> <jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>
>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
>> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
>> "normal."
>
> Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
> Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter."

My favorite is Rob Morrow - he named his daughter Tu. In my vision of a
perfect world she will grow up to play Annie on Broadway.

huey.c...@gmail.com

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Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My first name describes a condition or state of being, so it's pretty
> much on the adjective side of things. And I don't get to share it
> with as many kings as you share yours with.

'Snidely' is an adverb, you big dummy.

--
Huey

Dana Carpender

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Aug 12, 2009, 8:19:50 PM8/12/09
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QueBarbara wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
> <jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>
>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you fifty celebs
>> with kids whose names you would probably consider "normal."
>
> Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
> Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter." I read an article a year or so
> ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name their kids with
> unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I wonder if the same
> reasoning applies to non-celebs.
>

So often it's just "I wanted his name to be *different*!" "I wanted him
to stand out!" Stand out from all the other kids with funny names, I
guess. My sister's friend Debbie named her kids William, James, and
Elizabeth. James and Elizabeth came home from camp one day and
gleefully announced "We're the only kids at camp with *real* names." So
it seems that's a way of being different these days.

Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand out
shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish himself
through his efforts.

Dana

hpjeannie

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On Aug 12, 10:03 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>

wrote:
> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
> > I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people
> > are doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another
> > Ashley or Kayla to kick around.
>
> Yeah........well........I hope you end up with grandkids named "Luscious"
> and "Trumpet".
>
> So there.

<man leans out back door, ostensibly calling daughters in for dinner>
"Luscious! Trumpet!"
<incredibly stacked streetwalker neighbor looks over fence>
"Yes? You're looking for a luscious strumpet?"

Jeannie

hpjeannie

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On Aug 12, 4:44 pm, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> QueBarbara wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
> > <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>
> >> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
> >> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
> >> "normal."
>
> > Thank goodness.  But those don't make the news other than a brief
> > mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
> > Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter."
>
> My favorite is Rob Morrow - he named his daughter Tu. In my vision of a
> perfect world she will grow up to play Annie on Broadway.

Not her, but her lover, should play Annie.

Jeannie

Dana Carpender

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No, no, the gay woman who hopes to be her lover very soon.

Dana

Joseph Nebus

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Aug 12, 2009, 10:35:24 PM8/12/09
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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> writes:

>Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand out
>shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish himself
>through his efforts.

I think giving the kid *a* funny name is tolerable, and good
if the name has some subtle meaning, such as an intermittent family
tradition or some other thing with content behind it. But it has to
be paired with an utterly ordinary, even slightly dull name, just in
case the funny name doesn't work out. The kid can find, in time, what
works better as an identity.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Bill Turlock

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Aug 13, 2009, 1:09:25 AM8/13/09
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Mark Steese wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde { 'by a commodius vicus of recirculation' )"
> <tributy...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:4A82E944...@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> > Kim wrote:
> >>
> >> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due
> >> to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at
> >> least since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or
> >> girl??" It's a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet could only
> >> give birth to boys myself..that's another rant...)
> >>
> >> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
> >>
> >> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> >> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family
> >> KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named
> >> after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your
> >> baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly"
> >> but for God's sake, don't NAME her that.
> >>
> > At least not in English. You could name your daughter "Gloria" and
> > it wouldn't cause a fuss.
>
> Gloria means 'glory,' not 'glorious.' If you name a child "Gloriosa" and
> you don't have the advantage of being Hispanic, it'll cause a little talk.

Or "gloriosky".

Bill "Little Annie Fannie" Turlock

Snidely

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Aug 13, 2009, 3:43:36 AM8/13/09
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On Aug 12, 5:05 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:

Got me.

/dps

Robin Coutellier

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Aug 13, 2009, 5:27:48 AM8/13/09
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In article <h5v0fu$fjg$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
darwinexcepti...@verizon.net says...

>
> Dover Beach wrote:
> > "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> wrote in
> > news:h5uvf1$7rm$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >
> >> Kim wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> >>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
> >>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
> >>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives.
> >>
> >> Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
> >> given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily
> >> adjectives: Charity, Amity, August, Autumn, Bliss, Constant, Echo,
> >> Freedom, Grace, Hopeful, Love, Lovejoy, Mehitabel, Orange, Patience,
> >> Prudence, Royal, Ruby, Rusty, Tabitha, Thankful, Theophilus, Violet,
> >> and Wealthy.
> >>
> >
> > "Orange"?
>
> I like to think that Violet, Orange and Rusty are sisters.

Have you met their cousin, Tomato? He's on the Nightshade side of the
family.

Robin

Robin Coutellier

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Aug 13, 2009, 6:06:12 AM8/13/09
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In article <h5un2h$535$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
darwinexcepti...@verizon.net says...

> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
> Scenic.
>
> Yes, Scenic.
>
> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> name you couldn't OVERLOOK."

Will her middle name be Highway?

Similar names do tend to go in cycles. I remember hearing someone on
the radio music about 60 or years in the future when the nursing homes
are going to be full of elderly women named Stacee, Heather and
Brittany.

When I was a kid (in the 1960s), I had never met anyone named Shauna,
and Jennifers weren't all that common, either, although not UNcommon. I
might not even have met any Seans. Now they're EVERYWHERE. Heather was
around, but not particularly common. MY name, Robin, was quite
UNcommon, at least in my neck of the woods. It was probably quite
popular in England for boys, but finding a GIRL named Robin was unusual.
It didn't have the sexy connotation then that, for some inexplicable
reason, it started to get in the 1980s and 1990s. There just aren't
that many girls with bird names. I've never heard of a girl named
Parakeet, Duck or Pelican, for instance. I've always liked the name
Lark, though. I suppose I should be grateful that I wasn't named Loon.

When I was younger, "old-fashioned" names were often names like Pearl,
Opal and Ruby (I've never heard of anyone in the same age bracket named
"Diamond", though, which is kind of surprising when you think about it).
I might have heard of an Emerald or two, but never a Topaz. Goldie and
Golda were popular in some circles, too, although I don't think I've
heard of a woman named simply Gold or Silver. I suppose a modern twist
on the theme would be to name babies things like Rhinestone, Cubic
Zirconium or, as a slight variation, Bedazzler. In that vein, a boy
could be named Titanium. Actually, that one's not bad. Hopefully the
trend will stop before it morphs into Nose Ring or Semiprecious.

There were also a lot of old-fashioned sounding flower/tree names such
as Myrtle, Rose, Petunia, Violet, Pansy, Daisy, Olive, etc. I might
have heard of a woman named Chrysanthemum (which can at least be
shortened to Chris or even Chrissy, but hopefully not Mummy), but I
could be wrong. Rose, of course, is a classic favorite. Iris doggedly
sticks around, too, but it's not nearly as popular as Rose. I'm sure
there are some Magnolia's out there, as well as Hyacinths, but I've
never heard of a woman named Heliotrope, Hydrangea or Geranium. I've
also never heard of a woman named Dogwood, Wisteria or Walnut. What
makes one thing a good flower/tree name and another one totally
unthinkable? Hmmmm.

A friend of mine is named Judith. She HATES being called Judy. She was
named after Judy Garland, as were a multitude of other girls born in the
1940s. In the 1930s through the 1950s a HUGE number of girls were named
Shirley after Shirley Temple.

Many names start out as fads, so it doesn't surprise me that children
are now being named after adjectives and/or adverbs.

That said, I agree, Scenic is a stupid name for a baby. Kids will be
calling her Senile before they even know the meaning of the word. Or
"Seen ... Ick" or just Ick or Icky for short. At least she's not being
named Apple, because you KNOW people are aways going to try to take a
bite out of HER.

Robin

Lars Eighner

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Aug 13, 2009, 6:44:48 AM8/13/09
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In our last episode, <MPG.24ed85565...@news.newsguy.com>, the
lovely and talented Robin Coutellier broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:

> In article <h5un2h$535$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> darwinexcepti...@verizon.net says...
>> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>>
>> Scenic.
>>
>> Yes, Scenic.
>>
>> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>>
>> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
>> name you couldn't OVERLOOK."

> Will her middle name be Highway?

> Similar names do tend to go in cycles. I remember hearing someone on
> the radio music about 60 or years in the future when the nursing homes
> are going to be full of elderly women named Stacee, Heather and
> Brittany.

Well I have mentioned elsewhere that I am doing genealogy. Mine eyes glaze
over from the repetitions of names: girls -- Sarah, Elizabeth, Alice, Jane,
not too many Marys (sounds papish you know) and the boys are not much
better: Adlai, Henry, Wallis. A few Williams, Thomases, and Richards, but
they really worked Adlai to death. I guess Ms. Simpson put the end to
Wallis as a male name. There were even like family rules: first son for
father's father, second son for mother's father, third son was the Jr.,
fourth son father's eldest brother and then down the line of his brothers.
First daughter for mother's mother, second daughter for father's mother,
third daughter for mother, forth daughter for mother's eldest sister, etc.
The middle names of the boys seem to recapitulate the "lost" maiden names
starting with first son mother's maiden name and then proceeding by some
pattern I still haven't figured out. But girls seem to get two girl first
names, so the the girl whose first name is the same as her mother's is
called by her middle name.

> When I was a kid (in the 1960s), I had never met anyone named Shauna,
> and Jennifers weren't all that common, either, although not UNcommon. I
> might not even have met any Seans.

In my day we had Shawns.

> Now they're EVERYWHERE. Heather was around, but not particularly common.
> MY name, Robin, was quite UNcommon, at least in my neck of the woods. It
> was probably quite popular in England for boys,

I knew a couple of boy Robins in Houston. Girls names have been absorbing
boys names for a long time. Evelyn was once a boy's name as was Beverly.
Nowadays you have to ask whether Jimmy is a son or a daughter. The first
time I heard Madison for a girl I almost fell out of my chair.

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5826, 1993
204 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.

Peter Ward

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Aug 13, 2009, 7:09:15 AM8/13/09
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Lars Eighner says...

>
> I knew a couple of boy Robins in Houston. Girls names have been absorbing
> boys names for a long time. Evelyn was once a boy's name as was Beverly.
> Nowadays you have to ask whether Jimmy is a son or a daughter. The first
> time I heard Madison for a girl I almost fell out of my chair.

Did it give you the Blues?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAcBCGOdDTo

--

Peter, from outside the asylum

I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
Here am I, brain the size of a planet, and I spend my time posting to
Usenet!

Arthur

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On Aug 13, 5:27 am, Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:
> In article <h5v0fu$fj...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dover Beach wrote:
> > > "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote in

> > >news:h5uvf1$7rm$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > >> Kim wrote:
>
> > >>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> > >>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
> > >>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
> > >>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives.
>
> > >> Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
> > >> given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily
> > >> adjectives: Charity, Amity, August, Autumn, Bliss, Constant, Echo,
> > >> Freedom, Grace, Hopeful, Love, Lovejoy, Mehitabel, Orange, Patience,
> > >> Prudence, Royal, Ruby, Rusty, Tabitha, Thankful, Theophilus, Violet,
> > >> and Wealthy.
>
> > > "Orange"?
>
> > I like to think that Violet, Orange and Rusty are sisters.
>
> Have you met their cousin, Tomato?  He's on the Nightshade side of the
> family.

Is he a fruit or a vegetable?

QueBarbara

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Aug 13, 2009, 11:33:39 AM8/13/09
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Lars Eighner
<use...@larseighner.com> wrote:

>In our last episode, <MPG.24ed85565...@news.newsguy.com>, the
>lovely and talented Robin Coutellier broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:

>


>> Now they're EVERYWHERE. Heather was around, but not particularly common.
>> MY name, Robin, was quite UNcommon, at least in my neck of the woods. It
>> was probably quite popular in England for boys,
>
>I knew a couple of boy Robins in Houston. Girls names have been absorbing
>boys names for a long time. Evelyn was once a boy's name as was Beverly.
>Nowadays you have to ask whether Jimmy is a son or a daughter. The first
>time I heard Madison for a girl I almost fell out of my chair.

Some erstwhile friends named their baby girl Ryan. Bleh.

--
QueBarbara

Let's go down to the fairground before it's up and gone,
Get your tight blue jeans out and try to get 'em on,


QueBarbara

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Aug 13, 2009, 11:34:57 AM8/13/09
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:06:12 -0700, Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:

[snipped some amusing rambles]

>There were also a lot of old-fashioned sounding flower/tree names such
>as Myrtle, Rose, Petunia, Violet, Pansy, Daisy, Olive, etc. I might
>have heard of a woman named Chrysanthemum (which can at least be
>shortened to Chris or even Chrissy, but hopefully not Mummy), but I
>could be wrong. Rose, of course, is a classic favorite. Iris doggedly
>sticks around, too, but it's not nearly as popular as Rose. I'm sure
>there are some Magnolia's out there, as well as Hyacinths, but I've
>never heard of a woman named Heliotrope, Hydrangea or Geranium. I've
>also never heard of a woman named Dogwood, Wisteria or Walnut. What
>makes one thing a good flower/tree name and another one totally
>unthinkable? Hmmmm.

And my grandma, named Fern.

landotter

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Aug 13, 2009, 11:43:19 AM8/13/09
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On Aug 13, 5:06 am, Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:
> In article <h5un2h$53...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net says...

Petunia? That's my dog's name! Woof! She has friends named Rose and
Daisy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/3721114356_d0c91c928f_o.jpg

Maybe the next one I'll name Duck.

Veronique

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Why would you name a dog Petunia? That's a guinea pig name.


V. "and Tulip"
--
Veronique Chez Sheep

Dana Carpender

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Robin Coutellier wrote:
>
> That said, I agree, Scenic is a stupid name for a baby. Kids will be
> calling her Senile before they even know the meaning of the word. Or
> "Seen ... Ick" or just Ick or Icky for short. At least she's not being
> named Apple, because you KNOW people are aways going to try to take a
> bite out of HER.
>
>

Heck with that. I've said it before: I feel for poor Shiloh Pitt,
who's going to spend her adolescent years as Piloh Shitt.

Dana

Dana Carpender

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Aug 13, 2009, 1:21:30 PM8/13/09
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QueBarbara wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Lars Eighner
> <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
>
>> In our last episode, <MPG.24ed85565...@news.newsguy.com>, the
>> lovely and talented Robin Coutellier broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>>> Now they're EVERYWHERE. Heather was around, but not particularly common.
>>> MY name, Robin, was quite UNcommon, at least in my neck of the woods. It
>>> was probably quite popular in England for boys,
>> I knew a couple of boy Robins in Houston. Girls names have been absorbing
>> boys names for a long time. Evelyn was once a boy's name as was Beverly.
>> Nowadays you have to ask whether Jimmy is a son or a daughter. The first
>> time I heard Madison for a girl I almost fell out of my chair.
>
> Some erstwhile friends named their baby girl Ryan. Bleh.
>

When I was born, Dana was more a guy's name than a girl's; the best
known Dana was Dana Andrews. I used to get sent blue applications for
camp. Or my parents did, at any rate. A pink one for my sister Kim, a
blue one for me.

Dana

landotter

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Petunia has a friend named Tulip as well!

N Jill Marsh

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Aug 13, 2009, 3:51:24 PM8/13/09
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:21:30 -0400, Dana Carpender
<dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:

>When I was born, Dana was more a guy's name than a girl's; the best
>known Dana was Dana Andrews. I used to get sent blue applications for
>camp. Or my parents did, at any rate. A pink one for my sister Kim, a
>blue one for me.

You've mentioned your sister before, but it's never sunk in for me - I
know two brothers who are now 50 and 52 who are Dana and Kim; they
spent quite a lot of time on the other end of the problem.

nj"and both married girls with unisex names"m


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Richard R. Hershberger

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On Aug 12, 11:21 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's due to
> give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while - at least since
> the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or  girl??" It's a girl
> (of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
> myself..that's another rant...)
>
> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>
> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was ignorant
> enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family KNOWS how
> stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named after stupid
> descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes, your baby might be
> "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or "Heavenly" but for God's sake,
> don't NAME her that. When you give your baby daughter some goofy adjective
> name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her
> started early.
>
> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>
> Scenic.
>
> Yes, Scenic.
>
> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>
> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess that's a
> name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>
> Idiot.

Have you considered the possibility that they are actually naming the
kid "Mary" but enjoy hearing you sputter?

FWIW, my new nephew is "Braydon Achilles".

Richard R. Hershberger

Mary

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On Aug 12, 12:51 pm, Dover Beach <moon.blanc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdimm...@snet.net> wrote innews:h5uvf1$7rm$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > Kim wrote:
>
> >> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
> >> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my family
> >> KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be named
> >> after stupid descriptive adjectives.
>
> > Looking at my ancestors and their relatives, quite a few of them had
> > given names which were descriptive, although not necessarily
> > adjectives: Charity, Amity, August, Autumn, Bliss, Constant, Echo,
> > Freedom, Grace, Hopeful, Love, Lovejoy, Mehitabel, Orange, Patience,
> > Prudence, Royal, Ruby, Rusty, Tabitha, Thankful, Theophilus, Violet,
> > and Wealthy.
>
> "Orange"?


And Mehitabel and Tabitha and Theophilus are just names. Old
fashioned names, sure, but names. Grace is a nice name. Patience,
meh, I wouldn't use it, but it's a name.

I think Kim's right - stick to nouns, at least.

Mary

Mary

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On Aug 13, 2:51 pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:21:30 -0400, Dana Carpender
>
> <dcarp...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
> >When I was born, Dana was more a guy's name than a girl's; the best
> >known Dana was Dana Andrews.  I used to get sent blue applications for
> >camp.  Or my parents did, at any rate.  A pink one for my sister Kim, a
> >blue one for me.
>
> You've mentioned your sister before, but it's never sunk in for me - I
> know two brothers who are now 50 and 52 who are Dana and Kim; they
> spent quite a lot of time on the other end of the problem.
>
> nj"and both married girls with unisex names"m


I once worked with a guy named Gale. His brother was Pat. Gale's
wife's name was Pat, and Pat's wife's name was Gayle.

Family get-togethers had to be a blast.

Mary

Rick B.

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QueBarbara <que.barb...@go-awaygmail.com> wrote in
news:9jc885pk1p2sr6rmk...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:06:12 -0700, Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
> [snipped some amusing rambles]
>
>>There were also a lot of old-fashioned sounding flower/tree names such
>>as Myrtle, Rose, Petunia, Violet, Pansy, Daisy, Olive, etc. I might
>>have heard of a woman named Chrysanthemum (which can at least be
>>shortened to Chris or even Chrissy, but hopefully not Mummy), but I
>>could be wrong. Rose, of course, is a classic favorite. Iris doggedly
>>sticks around, too, but it's not nearly as popular as Rose. I'm sure
>>there are some Magnolia's out there, as well as Hyacinths, but I've
>>never heard of a woman named Heliotrope, Hydrangea or Geranium. I've
>>also never heard of a woman named Dogwood, Wisteria or Walnut. What
>>makes one thing a good flower/tree name and another one totally
>>unthinkable? Hmmmm.
>
> And my grandma, named Fern.

I encountered a fast-food worker named Gladiola a few years ago.

Dan Fogelberg wrote a song about a girl named Wisteria, but that doesn't
mean there really was one.

Robin Coutellier

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Aug 13, 2009, 7:11:13 PM8/13/09
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In article <14067a45-b3dc-44ad-8cb3-4202e686bec5@
32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, mrfea...@aol.com says...

> I once worked with a guy named Gale. His brother was Pat. Gale's
> wife's name was Pat, and Pat's wife's name was Gayle.
>
> Family get-togethers had to be a blast.

My brother is named Eric. He's named after our Grandpa. My sister
married a guy named Eric. His ex-wife's name is Robin. Whenever anyone
in the family refers to "Eric", we often have to clarify which one.

Robin

Rick B.

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Aug 13, 2009, 7:14:44 PM8/13/09
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"Richard R. Hershberger" <rrh...@acme.com> wrote in news:b4cc269d-c698-499d-
be49-4df...@y4g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> FWIW, my new nephew is "Braydon Achilles".

Wonder what sort of tendon-cies he'll exhibit.

Heather

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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Mary <mrfea...@aol.com>
wrote:

I think "Scenic" is marginally better than "Scene" or "Scenery" but in
general I think you are right.


--
Heather

huey.c...@gmail.com

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Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:
> My brother is named Eric. He's named after our Grandpa. My sister
> married a guy named Eric. His ex-wife's name is Robin. Whenever
> anyone in the family refers to "Eric", we often have to clarify which
> one.

My family has a suffusion of Jims (my father, cousin, grandfather,
second cousin, possibly more further out that I'm forgetting), Jeffs
(cousin, uncle, second cousin, maybe more), and Glenns (uncle,
great-uncle, maybe more). At a family reunion a few years back to
commemmorate a great-uncle's 60th wedding anniversary, when meeting
someone, we discovered that the most useful means to do so was to recite
your lineage like a Klingon - "I am Huey, son of Jim, son of Jim") and
various means have been developed to differentiate them - Grandpa Jim,
Craig, Jimmy, and Jim Bonner, Big Jeff, Jeffy, and Jeff Bonner, Glen and
Glenny, &c.

I like 'Huey'. There's never another Huey around.

--
Huey

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Aug 13, 2009, 9:04:41 PM8/13/09
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Mary wrote:

> And Mehitabel and Tabitha and Theophilus are just names. Old
> fashioned names, sure, but names.

Mehitabel means "God makes happy"
Tabitha is a gazelle [Hebrew for Dorcas, which is Greek for gazelle]
Theophilus means "God-loving"


Chrales

landotter

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On Aug 13, 6:10 pm, "Rick B." <deepst...@sprynet.com.aq> wrote:
> QueBarbara <que.barbara.l...@go-awaygmail.com> wrote innews:9jc885pk1p2sr6rmk...@4ax.com:

No girls name Clematis, then?

Mark Steese

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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote in news:h61if6$54r$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Yeah, I'm sure that's going to be so miserable for her that it'll totally
overshadow the fact that she's the daughter of Brad goddamn Pitt and
Angelina friggin' Jolie. She'll be crying her eyes out every day on that
long limo ride from prep school back to the mansion in Malibu. Poor, poor
Shiloh Pitt!
--
Mark Steese
=======================================================================
PS: Your second question, you thought I forgot? I didn't. I never found the
banana slug. - William Least Heat-Moon

bill van

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Aug 14, 2009, 12:05:54 AM8/14/09
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In article
<c25f42d7-27c1-4e16...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:

I know a Verity and a Felicity, both nouns (I'm pro-nouns), and very
nice people.

bill

Jerry Bauer

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Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:


>
> And Mehitabel and Tabitha and Theophilus are just names. Old
> fashioned names, sure, but names. Grace is a nice name. Patience,
> meh, I wouldn't use it, but it's a name.
>
> I think Kim's right - stick to nouns, at least.
>
> Mary

You're the Mariest!

--
Very Jerry


Kim

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Jim Beaver wrote:
> "rroger" <raus...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:96bfe903-f419-4747...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

>> On Aug 12, 11:21 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's
>>> due to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while
>>> - at least since
>>> the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a boy or girl??"
>>> It's a girl
>>> (of course - I have all nieces yet could only give birth to boys
>>> myself..that's another rant...)
>>>
>>> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>>>
>>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
>>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
>>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
>>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes,

>>> your baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or
>>> "Heavenly" but for God's sake, don't NAME her that. When you give
>>> your baby daughter some goofy adjective
>>> name you might as well install a stripper pole in the playpen and
>>> get her started early.
>>>
>>> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>>>
>>> Scenic.
>>>
>>> Yes, Scenic.
>>>
>>> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>>>
>>> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess
>>> that's a name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>>>
>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kimwww.thedarwinexception.wordpress.com
>>> *I used 30 gallons of hot water to rinse a peanut butter jar. I
>>> enjoy the irony of recycling. Now you know that about me too.*
>>
>> I agree TOTALLY; albeit about stupid names in general. I don't obsess
>> or anything but I've often wondered what celebs are smoking and/or
>> injecting when they name their kids.
>
> "Celebs?" They're the ones who do this? No celebrity was behind
> naming my first wife's aunt "Exasperalia." No celebrity named my
> high school friend "Twilley" when that was also his last name.
>
> Charlie Sheen's kids are named Cassandra, Lola, and Sam.

Sam is a girl, btw. And you forgot the twins. No, not his wife's boobs. The
new babies - Bob and Max.


> Philip Seymour Hoffman's kids are Cooper, Tallulah, and Willa.

I don't get the fascination with the name Tallulah. Demi Moore has a
daughter named Tallulah.

> Julianne Moore's kids are Caleb and Liv.
> Britney Spears's kids are Sean and Jayden.

I think this is the one that always surprises me the most. She's the ONE
celebrity you figure would have wigged out kids names - but she doesn't.

> Will Smith's kids are Jaden, Willard, and Willow.

Willard is called "Trey", because he's Willard Smith the Third.

> Phil Collins's kids are Simon, Joely, and Lily.
>
> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you fifty
> celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider "normal."

Well, but that's only because you meet more celebrities than we do.

--
Kim
www.thedarwinexception.wordpress.com
* I wish I were a spy and evil people had come to my house and torn it
apart looking for secrets. Then at least I'd have an excuse for it
looking that way.*


Kim

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Dana Carpender wrote:
> QueBarbara wrote:

>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
>> <jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>>
>>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
>>> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
>>> "normal."
>>
>> Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
>> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
>> Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter." I read an article a year or so
>> ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name their kids with
>> unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I wonder if the same
>> reasoning applies to non-celebs.
>>
>
> So often it's just "I wanted his name to be *different*!" "I wanted
> him to stand out!" Stand out from all the other kids with funny
> names, I guess.

Just remember, "Unique" was the 938th most popular name in 2005.

>
> Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand out
> shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish himself
> through his efforts.

Most people don't think beyond bringing the baby home and introducing it to
their friends and family. And the kid hasn't really done a lot to
distinguish himself at that point. You don't want to bring a baby home and
introduce it as "Bob". That's when you want the baby to stand out and be
memorable. Who remembers "Bob?" "Bob" doesn't make an impact. So you give it
some fucked up name like "Lucifer". Now THAT'S a baby you remember.

Opus the Penguin

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Rick B. (deep...@sprynet.com.aq) wrote:


Of course there was really a Dan Fogelberg. I mean ... wasn't there?
Had to be.

--
Opus the Penguin
Why does anal-retentive have a hyphen and not a colon? - Lisa Ann

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 14, 2009, 9:16:55 AM8/14/09
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Dana Carpender (dcar...@kivanospam.net) wrote:

> QueBarbara wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
>> <jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>>
>>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
>>> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
>>> "normal."
>>
>> Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
>> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like
>> "Pilot Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter." I read an article a
>> year or so ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name
>> their kids with unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I
>> wonder if the same reasoning applies to non-celebs.
>>
>
> So often it's just "I wanted his name to be *different*!" "I
> wanted him to stand out!" Stand out from all the other kids with

> funny names, I guess. My sister's friend Debbie named her kids
> William, James, and Elizabeth. James and Elizabeth came home from
> camp one day and gleefully announced "We're the only kids at camp
> with *real* names." So it seems that's a way of being different
> these days.

>
> Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand
> out shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish
> himself through his efforts.
>

Depends on the culture. As James and Elizabeth reported, the culture
seems to be changing. And you're making cranky comments and telling
the new culture to get off your culture's lawn.

--
Opus the Penguin
I can't believe it took me two days to start thinking of bottles of
ketchup dressed in little white gowns and tuxedos... - Rick B.

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 14, 2009, 9:36:33 AM8/14/09
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Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:

> Jim Beaver wrote:
>>
>> Charlie Sheen's kids are named Cassandra, Lola, and Sam.
>
> Sam is a girl, btw. And you forgot the twins. No, not his wife's
> boobs. The new babies - Bob and Max.


I think we're also neglecting the larger issue. Charlie Sheen has
children. This isn't going to turn out well for anyone.

--
Opus the Penguin
I admit, it hadn't occurred to me that either of them looked fat, just
that they had great sheep. - Veronique

Arthur

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Aug 14, 2009, 9:54:13 AM8/14/09
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On Aug 14, 8:10 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> Jim Beaver wrote:
> > "rroger" <raust...@aol.com> wrote in message

Jayden, Jaden. Male? female? I'm too lazy to look this up.

In a review of the movie District 9, it is pointed out that the aliens
are given names like "Christopher Johnson" by Humans. Nothing too
precious for those prawns!

Kim

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Jaden is a boy. Will Smith was one of the first ones to hop on the "Jaden",
"Jayden" bandwagon. The kid is named, presumably, for his mother - Jada.

Willow, a girl, is presumably named for her father - Will(ard).

I actually don't mind the name Willow so much. Unless she's a weeper.

Arthur

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On Aug 14, 10:33 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Arthur wrote:
> > On Aug 14, 8:10 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Jim Beaver wrote:
>
> >>> Will Smith's kids are Jaden, Willard, and Willow.
>
> > Jayden, Jaden. Male? female? I'm too lazy to look this up.
>
> Jaden is a boy. Will Smith was one of the first ones to hop on the "Jaden",
> "Jayden" bandwagon. The kid is named, presumably, for his mother - Jada.
>
> Willow, a girl, is presumably named for her father - Will(ard).
>
> I actually don't mind the name Willow so much. Unless she's a weeper.

There is the danger that crude Gilbert and Sullivan fans will call her
tit-willow.

Joseph Nebus

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nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) writes:

>Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> writes:

>>Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand out
>>shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish himself
>>through his efforts.

> I think giving the kid *a* funny name is tolerable, and good
>if the name has some subtle meaning, such as an intermittent family
>tradition or some other thing with content behind it. But it has to
>be paired with an utterly ordinary, even slightly dull name, just in
>case the funny name doesn't work out. The kid can find, in time, what
>works better as an identity.


This is embarrassing, but I realize I don't actually think this.
Some relatives, a month back, gave their daughter a middle name that's
genuinely exotic, and a first name that's uncommon these days but has
familial heritage to it, and I quite liked the combination. Either I
was wrong about what I thought or I treated a name of someone I knew
as by definition not having dropped off the charts in 1970.

(Although the middle name could be very easily shortened to one
that's common and ordinary should circumstances require it.)

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N Jill Marsh

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Aug 14, 2009, 12:46:03 PM8/14/09
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:16:55 +0000 (UTC), Opus the Penguin
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dana Carpender (dcar...@kivanospam.net) wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand
>> out shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish
>> himself through his efforts.
>
>Depends on the culture. As James and Elizabeth reported, the culture
>seems to be changing. And you're making cranky comments and telling
>the new culture to get off your culture's lawn.

Nicely said. There's a difference between stupid names and unusual
ones. I have no problems at all with the latter, and in general quite
like less than common names, be they utterly traditional or brand
spanking new ones.

I don't think it shows any sort of lack of faith in the child or
anything else. I'm particularly glad that people who do not have long
roots in the dominant white north american culture are not feeling as
obligated to adopt those naming standards.

nj"Respect, Honour & Strength"m

S. Checker

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Kim <darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Jim Beaver wrote:

>> Philip Seymour Hoffman's kids are Cooper, Tallulah, and Willa.
>
> I don't get the fascination with the name Tallulah. Demi Moore has a
> daughter named Tallulah.

YRDLSH
http://www.behindthename.com/name/tallulah
It means "leaping waters" in Choctaw. I guess if your family is
Choctaw, or you think that's a pretty image, or you conceived your kid
on top of an auto-flush toilet[1] it's a good name.

[1] Of which Number Two Daughter has developed a fear (she's three) to
the point where she will not use them. Which, since the toilet training
has barely had time to take hold, means that if you're at a waterpark
with nothing but auto-flush toilets, she is a TICKING TIME BOMB waiting
to get you forcibly ejected any moment.

--
I believe that the moment is near when by a procedure of active paranoiac
thought, it will be possible to systematize confusion and contribute to
the total discrediting of the world of reality.
-- Salvador Dali

Lisa Ann

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Aug 14, 2009, 1:32:23 PM8/14/09
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT), Mary <mrfea...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 13, 2:51�pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:

When I was young, my parents had friends named John and Tommy. Tommy
was the wife. Their sons were Johnny and Tom.

I just thought it was weird.

Lisa Ann

Lisa Ann

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On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT), Veronique
<veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 8:43�am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:


>> On Aug 13, 5:06�am, Robin Coutellier <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
>
>> > There were also a lot of old-fashioned sounding flower/tree names such
>> > as Myrtle, Rose, Petunia,
>>

>> Petunia? That's my dog's name! Woof! She has friends named Rose and
>> Daisy.
>
>
>Why would you name a dog Petunia? That's a guinea pig name.

No, no, guinea pigs are named Patches or Snookie or Rosie.

My next cat, I'm naming her Sasha the Dog. Just to fuck with her a
little.

Lisa Ann

Lars Eighner

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In our last episode, <jr7b85d5tq5c8cqm7...@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Lisa Ann broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:

> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT), Mary <mrfea...@aol.com>
> wrote:

>>On Aug 13, 2:51嚙緘m, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:21:30 -0400, Dana Carpender
>>>
>>> <dcarp...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
>>> >When I was born, Dana was more a guy's name than a girl's; the best

>>> >known Dana was Dana Andrews. 嚙瘢 used to get sent blue applications for
>>> >camp. 嚙瞌r my parents did, at any rate. 嚙璀 pink one for my sister Kim, a


>>> >blue one for me.
>>>
>>> You've mentioned your sister before, but it's never sunk in for me - I
>>> know two brothers who are now 50 and 52 who are Dana and Kim; they
>>> spent quite a lot of time on the other end of the problem.
>>>
>>> nj"and both married girls with unisex names"m
>>
>>
>>I once worked with a guy named Gale. His brother was Pat. Gale's
>>wife's name was Pat, and Pat's wife's name was Gayle.
>>
>>Family get-togethers had to be a blast.

> When I was young, my parents had friends named John and Tommy. Tommy
> was the wife. Their sons were Johnny and Tom.

> I just thought it was weird.

Not to mention Frankie and Johnny. I have to recite the lyrics to remember
which was which, and sometime I am still not sure.

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5827, 1993
206 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.

Joseph Nebus

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Lisa Ann <lisa...@stalnakershampine.com> writes:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT), Veronique
><veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Aug 13, 8:43am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Petunia? That's my dog's name! Woof! She has friends named Rose and
>>> Daisy.
>>
>>Why would you name a dog Petunia? That's a guinea pig name.

>No, no, guinea pigs are named Patches or Snookie or Rosie.

No, they were named 'Orange Furbert' and 'West Furginia' by the
sixth grade class. In this way not only did the names make clear which
was which (West Furginia looked like fluffy coal) but it was impossible
for anyone not in sixth grade to mention them by name.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Mary

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Thanks. I knew that Theophilus means "God-loving" but didn't know the
others.

I wanted to ask whether Mehitabel had a brother Archy, but that's all
I know about that name!

Mary

Mary

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On Aug 14, 9:33 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Willow, a girl, is presumably named for her father - Will(ard).


>
> I actually don't mind the name Willow so much. Unless she's a weeper.


I like it. But then I like names like that. Autumn is a pretty name
too.

Mary

Mary

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On Aug 14, 11:04 am, spam...@gmail.com (S. Checker) wrote:

> Kim <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Jim Beaver wrote:
> >> Philip Seymour Hoffman's kids are Cooper, Tallulah, and Willa.
>
> > I don't get the fascination with the name Tallulah. Demi Moore has a
> > daughter named Tallulah.
>
> YRDLSHhttp://www.behindthename.com/name/tallulah

> It means "leaping waters" in Choctaw. I guess if your family is
> Choctaw, or you think that's a pretty image, or you conceived your kid
> on top of an auto-flush toilet[1] it's a good name.

You're forgetting the river. There's a Tallulah River in Georgia, and
a lovely state park called Tallulah Gorge State Park. And you know,
it's kind of a pretty name.

Mary

Richard R. Hershberger

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On Aug 14, 8:18 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Dana Carpender wrote:
> > QueBarbara wrote:
> >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
> >> <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
>
> >>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
> >>> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
> >>> "normal."
>
> >> Thank goodness.  But those don't make the news other than a brief
> >> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
> >> Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter."  I read an article a year or so
> >> ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name their kids with
> >> unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I wonder if the same
> >> reasoning applies to non-celebs.
>
> > So often it's just "I wanted his name to be *different*!"  "I wanted
> > him to stand out!"  Stand out from all the other kids with funny
> > names, I guess.
>
> Just remember, "Unique" was the 938th most popular name in 2005.

The obvious solution is to name your kid "Very Unique".

> > Personally, I think giving your kid a funny name to make him stand out
> > shows a woeful lack of faith in his ability to distinguish himself
> > through his efforts.
>
> Most people don't think beyond bringing the baby home and introducing it to
> their friends and family.  And the kid hasn't really done a lot to
> distinguish himself at that point. You don't want to bring a baby home and
> introduce it as "Bob". That's when you want the baby to stand out and be
> memorable. Who remembers "Bob?" "Bob" doesn't make an impact. So you give it
> some fucked up name like "Lucifer". Now THAT'S a baby you remember.

Little Lucifer brought light into my life.

Richard R. Hershberger

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On Aug 14, 9:16 am, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I often get comments, generally approving, about my kids' names:
Rebecca Elizabeth and (soon to be) Margaret Theresa. I figure these
names will really stand out once they are in school.

Richard R. Hershberger

Richard R. Hershberger

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On Aug 14, 8:10 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
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> Jim Beaver wrote:
> > "rroger" <raust...@aol.com> wrote in message

"Jayden" is, umm..., of the moment. It isn't a great travesty as such
things go, but I suspect that every Ja(y)den will go through life with
everyone knowing from their name alone about when they were born.

Richard R. Hershberger

Arthur

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On Aug 14, 1:32 pm, Lisa Ann <lisa-...@stalnakershampine.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT), Mary <mrfeath...@aol.com>

I had a friend named James whose wife was named Amy.
There first child was named Jamie.
They had at least one more kid, but I forget the name.

Opus the Penguin

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Richard R. Hershberger (rrh...@acme.com) wrote:

> "Kim" wrote:
>>
>> Just remember, "Unique" was the 938th most popular name in 2005.
>
> The obvious solution is to name your kid "Very Unique".

Good choice. I'd name the second kid "Literally". Middle name
"Delicious".

For a third one, it doesn't really matter to me. I could care less.

--
Opus the Penguin
Pets are great. They lower your stress levels. Just like friends. -
Dover Beach

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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It could be worse. My great-great-great-great grandfather's father,
grandfather, and great-grandfather were all named Shubael.
[captive of God].

Bill Turlock

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"Richard R. Hershberger" wrote:
>
> On Aug 14, 8:18 am, "Kim" <darwinexceptiontakethis...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > Dana Carpender wrote:
> > > QueBarbara wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 -0700, "Jim Beaver"
> > >> <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
> >
> > >>> For every "celeb" whose kid has a "stupid" name, I can name you
> > >>> fifty celebs with kids whose names you would probably consider
> > >>> "normal."
> >
> > >> Thank goodness. But those don't make the news other than a brief
> > >> mention, nor do non-celebs who name their kids odd name like "Pilot
> > >> Inspekter" or "Moxie Crimefighter." I read an article a year or so
> > >> ago that discussed why some celebs choose to name their kids with
> > >> unique names, but I can't googlefu it now. I wonder if the same
> > >> reasoning applies to non-celebs.
> >
> > > So often it's just "I wanted his name to be *different*!" "I wanted
> > > him to stand out!" Stand out from all the other kids with funny
> > > names, I guess.
> >
> > Just remember, "Unique" was the 938th most popular name in 2005.
>
> The obvious solution is to name your kid "Very Unique".

"Uniquer"

Richard R. Hershberger

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On Aug 14, 3:31 pm, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid>
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That works only until there are five Uniquers in every classroom.
Then you have to go with "Uniquest". Beyond that lies madness.

Nick Spalding

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Charles Wm. Dimmick wrote, in <h64e6q$sl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:25:11 -0400:

The only odd names I find in my tree are:

Garlies, sometimes spelt Garless, greatgrandfather
Harriot, male
Ormrod, male
Aurelius, male - as a second name
Winifride, female - odd spelling of Winifred
Larraine, female
Eugenia, female
Summer, female, granddaughter )
Taylor, female, granddaughter ) twins
--
Nick Spalding

Nick Spalding

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Richard R. Hershberger wrote, in
<2be89999-9b67-4497...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:59:58 -0700 (PDT):

Excellent choices. My children are Timothy, Sophia Mary, Bridget Anne,
Matthew John Patrick and Benjamin Hugh, all respectable names.
--
Nick Spalding

Paul L. Madarasz

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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:59:22 +0000 (UTC), Opus the Penguin
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

>Kim (darwinexcepti...@verizon.net) wrote:
>
>>
>> OK - so I talked to my brother this morning. He has a wife that's
>> due to give birth in September. I haven't talked to him in a while
>> - at least since the last ultrasound. I asked him "SO??? Is it a
>> boy or girl??" It's a girl (of course - I have all nieces yet
>> could only give birth to boys myself..that's another rant...)
>>
>> So, my next question was "What are you going to name her?"
>>
>> Now, let's remember here that I already have ONE sibling who was
>> ignorant enough to name her kid "Precious". And everyone in my
>> family KNOWS how stupid I think that name is. Babies shouldn't be
>> named after stupid descriptive adjectives. Really. It's dumb. Yes,
>> your baby might be "Glorious" or "Desirous" or "Delicious" or
>> "Heavenly" but for God's sake, don't NAME her that. When you give
>> your baby daughter some goofy adjective name you might as well
>> install a stripper pole in the playpen and get her started early.
>>
>

>I wonder how common the trend is. Maybe by the time the kids grow up,
>adjective names will be normal and strippers will be named Thelma.


>
>
>> So - what did my brother say he was naming his new baby??
>>
>> Scenic.
>>
>

>That's awesome.


>
>
>> Yes, Scenic.
>>
>> Scenic Lynn, in fact.
>>
>> So, after my head exploded I said to him "Scenic? Well, I guess
>> that's a name you couldn't OVERLOOK."
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>

>I think it's kind of cool. Shows some imagination. If enough people are
>doing it, it won't be awkward for the kid. Beats having another Ashley
>or Kayla to kick around.

The BBC World Service has two (female) newsreaders named Pascal Hardy
and Gaynor (sp?) Howells. Are those names rare in Britain? I mean, I
imagine they're rare, but are there more of them around?
--
Merdre!

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