Anyone read Russian?
darkon
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9085/solyanka1133989000i24105kh.jpg
or
http://tinyurl.com/akdw2
MWB
THE YANKEES SUCK
Mark
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
darkon wrote:
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> I'm curious what this guy's sign says:
>
> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9085/solyanka1133989000i24105kh.jpg
>
Test na zombi ------> Test in Zombie (I'm guessing this just
English)
yesli F = m * dv/dt ------> if F = m * dv/dt
to chemu rabno dF? ------> than what does dF equal?
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Greg Goss
<Pablo....@Il.Postino.it> wrote:
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>
>darkon wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious what this guy's sign says:
>>
>> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9085/solyanka1133989000i24105kh.jpg
>>
>Test na zombi ------> Test in Zombie (I'm guessing this just
>English)
>yesli F = m * dv/dt ------> if F = m * dv/dt
>to chemu rabno dF? ------> than what does dF equal?
It's too bad that Stine is dead. He tried to come up with new physics
to explain the Dean Drive. This focussed on non-linearities in
systems with high "surge". Acceleration is the second derivative of
position. Surge is the third derivative. Surge would be proportional
to dF. The man in the picture probably believes in a reactionless
drive like the Dean Drive.
There is a standard "static" test that a Dean Drive type engine must
pass before it is taken seriously. I wonder if "static" test somehow
got translated as "dead" test and thus through to "zombie".
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
DT
>It's too bad that Stine is dead. He tried to come up with new physics
>to explain the Dean Drive. This focussed on non-linearities in
>systems with high "surge". Acceleration is the second derivative of
>position. Surge is the third derivative. Surge would be proportional
>to dF. The man in the picture probably believes in a reactionless
>drive like the Dean Drive.
>
Greg, I thought the derivative of acceleration was known as 'jerk'? No pun
intended. For the science-challenged, it's the 'acceleration of the
acceleration'.
Denny
darkon
> "Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')"
><Pablo....@Il.Postino.it> wrote:
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>>
>>
>>darkon wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm curious what this guy's sign says:
>>>
>>> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9085/solyanka1133989000i24105k
>>> h.jpg
>>>
>>Test na zombi ------> Test in Zombie (I'm guessing this
>>just English)
>>yesli F = m * dv/dt ------> if F = m * dv/dt
>>to chemu rabno dF? ------> than what does dF equal?
Thanks. Hmm. Derivative of force with respect to what? Time, I
suppose.
> It's too bad that Stine is dead. He tried to come up with new
> physics to explain the Dean Drive. This focussed on
> non-linearities in systems with high "surge". Acceleration is the
> second derivative of position. Surge is the third derivative.
IIRC, Newton was too cautious to say F = m dv/dt, but instead used
something equivalent to what we would express as F = d(mv)/dt. If
so, he was correct even accounting for special relativity.
> Surge would be proportional to dF. The man in the picture
> probably believes in a reactionless drive like the Dean Drive.
OK, so he's a physics crank. I suspected so, but wanted to see what
people here think.
> There is a standard "static" test that a Dean Drive type engine
> must pass before it is taken seriously. I wonder if "static" test
> somehow got translated as "dead" test and thus through to
> "zombie".
I didn't think hardly anyone took the Dean Drive seriously. I know
John Campbell (editor of Astounding/Analog) did, but he took
dianetics and several other crackpot ideas seriously, too. (Damned
good editor, though.)
Here's some information from Jerry Pournelle:
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/science/dean.html
Sounds like Dean wanted to sell them a pig in a poke. I wouldn't
have bought it either until he could demonstrate a working model.
groo
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>> Surge would be proportional to dF. The man in the picture
>> probably believes in a reactionless drive like the Dean Drive.
>
> OK, so he's a physics crank. I suspected so, but wanted to see what
> people here think.
if F = m dv/dt, then
dF = d (m dv/dt) = d(ma) = m da.
I think he's a Jerry Lewis fan.
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"I hope Jesus has learned better strategy by now. Last time he got himself
killed." - darkon on afca
Jim Shaffer
>dF = d (m dv/dt) = d(ma) = m da.
>
>I think he's a Jerry Lewis fan.
Or maybe he did a little too much MDMA in the 1990s.
Jim Shaffer
wrote:
>I didn't think hardly anyone took the Dean Drive seriously. I know
>John Campbell (editor of Astounding/Analog) did, but he took
>dianetics and several other crackpot ideas seriously, too. (Damned
>good editor, though.)
People are inventing jerk drives (appropriate name, that) all the
time. I don't know why it's so difficult to talk them out of it. I
don't know who the fellow in the picture under discussion is, but for
some reason the Russians have a history of inventing all sorts of
strange gadgets. Look up Grebbenikov's antigravity platform, or
Chernobrov's time modification experiments, for example.
James Gifford
> People are inventing jerk drives (appropriate name, that) all the
> time. I don't know why it's so difficult to talk them out of it.
My father-in-law is an electrical engineer, and something of a hired
gunslinger in the field. (Semi-retired, picks and chooses his jobs.)
He had a client who had invented a perpetual motion machine but didn't know
enough about electricity to hook it up. S'truth.
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Jerry Bauer
(in article <Xns9726C125B38A6ni...@216.168.3.44>):
> Jim Shaffer <jmsh...@alltel.net> wrote:
>> People are inventing jerk drives (appropriate name, that) all the
>> time. I don't know why it's so difficult to talk them out of it.
>
> My father-in-law is an electrical engineer, and something of a hired
> gunslinger in the field.
When you were young, you carried a gun, but you never got the chance
to serve; you dod not serve.
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
> It's too bad that Stine is dead. He tried to come up with new physics
> to explain the Dean Drive. This focussed on non-linearities in
> systems with high "surge". Acceleration is the second derivative of
> position. Surge is the third derivative.
Jerk, not surge. Surge is translation in the z direction.
Mary
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We didn't just do weird stuff at Dryden, we wrote reports about it.
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Jeff Lanam
wrote:
Or the Asimov Thiotimoline Drive.