Cocaine, mirrors, and US currency
NadCixelsyd
a TV show), they're usually sniffing it from a mirror through a rolled-
up piece of cash. Is there something inherently beneficial to using $$
$$$? Why use a mirror?
Mac
Bills and mirrors are both handy - kind of thing someone might have
around anyway, and require no explanation or justification. Rather
hard to get a jury to convict for "drug paraphernalia" on stuff half
of them have on them at the time.
Mirrors are very hard and very flat, which lets you divide the stuff
with a flat-edged flexible blade, and minimizes the amount stuck of
the surface afterwards.
Dollar bills have a good balance of flexibility and stiffness, that
lets them hold shape without folds, and keeps its shape even when wet.
Shomeh Damoanee
You can also look at yourself to see how high you are getting.
--
Shomeh Damoanee
"The road to wisdom is paved with stupidity."
John Hatpin
Glass makes a good cutting surface, and a mirror is usually the
handiest piece of glass. The paper money thing is, I think, pure
Hollywood balderdash - any piece of stiffish paper would do.
I used rolled-up punch (Hollerith) cards, but then I had them lying
around anyway - they make absolutely perfect roaches for joints, and I
could get as many as I wanted from work.
Note: I only used cocaine a couple of times[1] but I did snort
amphetamine sulphate on quite a few occasions, and that's a similar
powder, ingested in a similar manner.
[1] it bored me terriff-iccly too.
--
John "reformed" Hatpin
groo
> NadCixelsyd wrote:
>
>> Usually, when I see someone snorting on TV (be it in a news show or
>> on a TV show), they're usually sniffing it from a mirror through a
>> rolled- up piece of cash. Is there something inherently beneficial
>> to using $$ $$$? Why use a mirror?
>
> Glass makes a good cutting surface, and a mirror is usually the
> handiest piece of glass. The paper money thing is, I think, pure
> Hollywood balderdash - any piece of stiffish paper would do.
I'm sure that's true about the stiffish paper, but (a) people really,
really do use paper currency to snort cocaine, and (b) it's a kind of
stiffish paper that most people have handy. (b) probably explains (a),
but maybe most people got the idea from movies. I lived with a coke
dealer for a while in college, and I don't think I ever saw anyone use
anything OTHER than currency to snort it. Except for their noses.
--
"I agree entirely with Richard, except that my personal position is the
complete opposite." - N.Jill Marsh
John Hatpin
> John Hatpin <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> > NadCixelsyd wrote:
> >
> >> Usually, when I see someone snorting on TV (be it in a news show or
> >> on a TV show), they're usually sniffing it from a mirror through a
> >> rolled- up piece of cash. Is there something inherently beneficial
> >> to using $$ $$$? Why use a mirror?
> >
> > Glass makes a good cutting surface, and a mirror is usually the
> > handiest piece of glass. The paper money thing is, I think, pure
> > Hollywood balderdash - any piece of stiffish paper would do.
>
> I'm sure that's true about the stiffish paper, but (a) people really,
> really do use paper currency to snort cocaine, and (b) it's a kind of
> stiffish paper that most people have handy. (b) probably explains (a),
> but maybe most people got the idea from movies. I lived with a coke
> dealer for a while in college, and I don't think I ever saw anyone use
> anything OTHER than currency to snort it. Except for their noses.
Strange - I never heard of it or saw it here. Then again, the drug
sub-culture I knew wasn't exactly knee-deep in ready cash.
--
John Hatpin
Greg Goss
The mirror lets you see if you missed any. It's expensive stuff, so
you want to get it all. The buck instead of a straw is just to
impress the rest of the party with your wealth.
McDonalds changed from tiny spoons to stir sticks back in the early
eighties (late seventies?) because tiny spoons were a previous
generation's dispensing method.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Mark Steese
news:vs5vc6lnmfqncthuc...@4ax.com:
Maybe it's only common in the Americas, but it's a real practice. An
August 2009 Scientific American article cited an analysis of 234
banknotes from eighteen cities that found cocaine traces on 90% of the
bills:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=cocaine-contaminates-majority-of-american-currency
Snopes provides additional information on earlier tests that found
cocaine residue on money:
http://www.snopes.com/business/money/cocaine.asp
--
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sharp bite to the Achilles tendon, while the Shitmeister would swoop
low, unloading his special delivery. And then there was Spike.
-Susan Casey
bill van
Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I was exposed to cocaine snorting, and amphetamine snorting, for a short
while in the early 1970s. My recollection is that some cachet was
attached to using rolled-up banknotes, more so than using drinking
straws or rolled-up strips of paper torn out of slick magazines, or the
bottom halves of ballpoint pen casings. Twenty-dollar bills had more
cachet than ones or twos (which we had here then) or fives. Fifties
would have worked, but my crowd didn't have a lot of those.
bill
Peter Boulding
The mirror:
Cocaine is highly hygroscopic and as it absorbs moisture from the atmosphere
it clumps into crystal-like granules. The easiest way to turn it back into a
fine powder suitable for snorting is to place it on a hard flat surface,
crush it (a cigarette lighter is commonly used as a pestle) and then subject
it to repeated chops with the cutting edge of a straight, flat, razor blade
or Stanley knife (box cutter) blade.
A mirror has such a hard flat surface, makes it very easy to see if you've
left any behind (which, given the price of cocaine, you might consider
important) and is very easy to clean.
The movies and TV shows usually leave out the chop-chop-chopping with a
blade, which can take several minutes.
The USD:
Any tube of suitable diameter--such as a fat straw--can be used as a
snorting tube but rolled up, reasonably stiff, paper is particularly
suitable as it will naturally expand to fit a nostril. And, most
importantly, you can't easily clean traces off whatever you use as a tube
but there's no point in the police testing banknotes--*most* of which, in
some tests, turn out to have traces of cocaine along their edges--since
there's no way of showing that the current owner of a banknote put those
traces there.
Side notes:
*A few years ago someone tested the vitreous china cistern lids in the House
of Commons (the UK parliament's lower house) toilets and found that most of
them carried traces of cocaine.
*clumped cocaine is, I have read, much easier to turn back into a fine power
if it's first placed on a plate a put in a warm over for few minutes. It can
then be "chopped" with the edge of a credit card. Sounds risky to me; I
doubt if you could easily remove traces from the edge of the credit card.
*"Crack" cocaine crystals are not so easy to break up and are normally
smoked.
On re-reading the above methinks it might give the impression of both
approval and considerable familiarity, so it might be well to add that I
consider the stuff to be very dangerous indeed and best avoided altogether.
It's highly addictive ("crack" even more so) and its medium-to-long-term
health effects can be seriously unfunny.
--
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John Hatpin
[...]
> *clumped cocaine is, I have read, much easier to turn back into a fine power
> if it's first placed on a plate a put in a warm over for few minutes
[...]
> On re-reading the above methinks [...]
Are you *sure* you're not a habitual user, Peter?
--
John "d&r" Hatpin
Peter Boulding
<RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote in
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Absolutely. <sniiiff>
Hactar
Also, higher-value banknotes would probably be crisper from less
handling.
--
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Q: What kind of modem did Jimi Hendrix use?
A: A purple Hayes.
Night Owl
It doesn't sound like you did it right, if you found it to be boring.
John Hatpin
> It doesn't sound like you did it right, if you found it to be boring.
What's to get wrong? Snort speed (amphetamines) and I buzz for hours,
snort cocaine and nothing happens. I did wonder if it was sub-standard
stuff, but my dealer - a personal friend - said it was excellent, and
I trusted him.
Other people I've talked to since have had very similar stories,
leading me to wonder if some sector of the population are somehow
immune to the effects of cocaine.
Note: all this happened back in the 1980s, when I was a young, single
neo-hippy with no responsibilities or sense. I don't touch the stuff
now, nor anything remotely like it.
--
John Hatpin
John Hatpin
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:00:44 +0000, John Hatpin
> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote in
> <3krvc6tpqpn1udg4g...@4ax.com>:
>
> >Peter Boulding wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >> *clumped cocaine is, I have read, much easier to turn back into a fine power
> >> if it's first placed on a plate a put in a warm over for few minutes
> >
> >[...]
> >> On re-reading the above methinks [...]
> >
> >Are you *sure* you're not a habitual user, Peter?
>
> Absolutely. <sniiiff>
You mean you'd turn your nose up at cocaine?
--
John Hatpin
Mac
<bil...@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>> http://www.snopes.com/business/money/cocaine.asp
>
>I was exposed to cocaine snorting, and amphetamine snorting, for a short
>while in the early 1970s. My recollection is that some cachet was
>attached to using rolled-up banknotes, more so than using drinking
>straws or rolled-up strips of paper torn out of slick magazines, or the
>bottom halves of ballpoint pen casings. Twenty-dollar bills had more
>cachet than ones or twos (which we had here then) or fives. Fifties
>would have worked, but my crowd didn't have a lot of those.
Cf. lighting a cigar with a fifty-dollar spill (sic.)
The Nat. Geo has proof that, as ever, nature is ahead of us.
(Extremely SFW. Aside from the possibilty of lost worktime.)
Look at that guy's facial expression, and tell me those tubes are all
about sniffing fruit.
QueBarbara
"I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it
smelled."
--
QueBarbara
The trouble with trouble is that it starts out as fun.
Veronique
<RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> groo wrote:
Long ago and far away, when I was in colletch and surrounded by those
doing such things, one dorm neighbor went to the bank specifically to
obtain a $100 bill for the purpose. And (as you say) it wasn't as if
anyone I knew had piles of ready cash around-- finding a quarter on
the sidewalk was a big deal.
V., cultcha, cultcha!
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
David J. Martin
I would say my experiences mirrored yours. The coke, that is, I was
never much into speed.
>
> Note: all this happened back in the 1980s, when I was a young, single
> neo-hippy with no responsibilities or sense. I don't touch the stuff
> now, nor anything remotely like it.
I was already boring by the 80s. My excesses were mostly in the mid-70s.
David
Peter Boulding
<que.barb...@go-awaygmail.com> wrote in
<rlh0d6dfmb56eb3b4...@4ax.com>:
>>> >Peter Boulding wrote:
>>> >
>>> >[...]
>>> >> *clumped cocaine is, I have read, much easier to turn back into a fine power
>>> >> if it's first placed on a plate a put in a warm over for few minutes
>>> >
>>> >[...]
>>> >> On re-reading the above methinks [...]
>>> >
>>> >Are you *sure* you're not a habitual user, Peter?
>>>
>>> Absolutely. <sniiiff>
>>
>>You mean you'd turn your nose up at cocaine?
>
>"I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it
>smelled."
"I didn't inhale."
darkon
"David J. Martin" <djmarti...@tamu.edu> wrote in message
news:iapi8b$fsh$1...@news.tamu.edu...
Much the same here. I tried coke once a long time ago: I kept waiting for
something to happen and it never did. I've had better buzzes from a
cigarette.
N Jill Marsh
wrote:
> I lived with a coke
>dealer for a while in college, and I don't think I ever saw anyone use
>anything OTHER than currency to snort it. Except for their noses.
1. cut pieces of plastic drinking straw
2. decorative brass tubes
nj"so I've heard"m
--
"His eyes were of the blue of the forget-me-not, and of a profound melancholy..."
John Hatpin
But did speed affect you in the way that coke did not?
I loved speed. Then again, I never had a bad experience with it - I
always got it from the one guy mentioned above, and he was very
careful with his own supply. Most of the time, he wouldn't have any -
there was speed around, but not of a quality he approved of.
When some was available, another friend and I would buy a bottle of
red wine and have that with the speed, plus several joints of whatever
hash or grass was available at the time. We'd stay up all night and
talk, and our conversation was (to us) vastly interesting and
entertaining. I remember reading that amphetamines have been shown to
increase IQ by *mumble* points, and it certainly felt like that was
going on. It felt like any topic we addressed, we could understand
with a level of clarity and insight that was normally unattainable;
whether that's true or not, I've no idea, because I didn't record the
conversations.
With daybreak, the buzz tended to wear off, my friend would wander
home, and we'd both sleep for hours. This was possible because we only
ever did this on a Friday night.
> > Note: all this happened back in the 1980s, when I was a young, single
> > neo-hippy with no responsibilities or sense. I don't touch the stuff
> > now, nor anything remotely like it.
>
> I was already boring by the 80s. My excesses were mostly in the mid-70s.
Maybe you were more timely than me. I was 22 before I even tried hash,
in 1981, and it was no longer popular by then, much to my chagrin. I
felt like I wanted to be in the 1960s.
--
John Hatpin
Mitch
wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:14:00 -0500, QueBarbara
> <rlh0d6dfmb56eb3b4cuec33hjqtk7tc...@4ax.com>:
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> >Peter Boulding wrote:
>
> >>> >[...]
> >>> >> *clumped cocaine is, I have read, much easier to turn back into a fine power
> >>> >> if it's first placed on a plate a put in a warm over for few minutes
>
> >>> >[...]
> >>> >> On re-reading the above methinks [...]
>
> >>> >Are you *sure* you're not a habitual user, Peter?
>
> >>> Absolutely. <sniiiff>
>
> >>You mean you'd turn your nose up at cocaine?
>
> >"I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it
> >smelled."
>
> "I didn't inhale."
I smoked pot, but only once. From 1979 to 1986.
-Mitch (but only in late evenings, and occasionally in the late 2010s)
David J. Martin
I never inhaled really does apply here. The occasional time I took
speed orally it had the expected effect. I preferred hallucinogens.
There were times that I felt those did not affect me to the extent they
affected others, but there's no real way of knowing.
>>> Note: all this happened back in the 1980s, when I was a young, single
>>> neo-hippy with no responsibilities or sense. I don't touch the stuff
>>> now, nor anything remotely like it.
>>
>> I was already boring by the 80s. My excesses were mostly in the mid-70s.
>
> Maybe you were more timely than me. I was 22 before I even tried hash,
> in 1981, and it was no longer popular by then, much to my chagrin. I
> felt like I wanted to be in the 1960s.
I'm a little older than you and started earlier. I started smoking pot
at 16. I was in graduate school in the early 80s and had reduced my
practice of recreational medicine by quite a bit.
David
Paul Madarasz
wrote:
>John Hatpin <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
>> NadCixelsyd wrote:
>>
>>> Usually, when I see someone snorting on TV (be it in a news show or
>>> on a TV show), they're usually sniffing it from a mirror through a
>>> rolled- up piece of cash. Is there something inherently beneficial
>>> to using $$ $$$? Why use a mirror?
>>
>> Glass makes a good cutting surface, and a mirror is usually the
>> handiest piece of glass. The paper money thing is, I think, pure
>> Hollywood balderdash - any piece of stiffish paper would do.
>
>I'm sure that's true about the stiffish paper, but (a) people really,
>really do use paper currency to snort cocaine, and (b) it's a kind of
>stiffish paper that most people have handy. (b) probably explains (a),
>but maybe most people got the idea from movies. I lived with a coke
>dealer for a while in college, and I don't think I ever saw anyone use
>anything OTHER than currency to snort it. Except for their noses.
>
>
Those thin red straws that fast "food" places have on hand seem to
work well if cut down. Also, McD's used to have these tiny
long-handled spoons that were ostensibly used for stirring coffee.