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MWB

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Aug 4, 2006, 10:45:20 PM8/4/06
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I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.

Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.


Mark


Paul Ciszek

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Aug 4, 2006, 10:50:35 PM8/4/06
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In article <4DTAg.34$Fl2.30@trndny01>, MWB <mark.b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>
>Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.

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Veronique

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Aug 4, 2006, 10:55:40 PM8/4/06
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MWB wrote:
> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>
> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>


Not milk, I don't think. McD's calls them "shakes" so as not to be
dinged for false advertising.


V.
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Blinky the Shark

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Aug 4, 2006, 11:09:05 PM8/4/06
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MWB wrote:
> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>
> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.

The "Nutrition Information" file here probably can.

http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/about/factsheets.html


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Veronique

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Aug 4, 2006, 11:19:59 PM8/4/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> MWB wrote:
> > I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>
> The "Nutrition Information" file here probably can.
>
> http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/about/factsheets.html
>


And yet strangely, besides touting their salads and apple purchasing,
actual nutrition information vis ingredients, calories, and nutritional
breakdown was strangely lacking.

Veronique

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Aug 4, 2006, 11:23:02 PM8/4/06
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Ah, wait, here 'tis:

Chocolate Triple Thick® Shake:
Shake Mix: Whole milk, sucrose, cream, nonfat milk solids, corn syrup
solids, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, imitation vanilla flavor,
carrageenan, cellulose gum, vitamin A palmitate.

Chocolate Syrup: High fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, water, Dutch
processed cocoa, natural (vegetable source) and artificial flavor,
salt, potassium sorbate as a preservative, vanillin.

May contain small amounts of other shake flavors served at the
restaurant, including egg ingredients when Egg Nog Shakes are
available.


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Ulo Melton

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Aug 4, 2006, 11:49:31 PM8/4/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:

>MWB wrote:
>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>
>The "Nutrition Information" file here probably can.
>
>http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/about/factsheets.html

No, it probably can't. This probably can:
<http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.categories.ingredients.index.html>
<q>
Chocolate Triple ThickŽ Shake:


Shake Mix: Whole milk, sucrose, cream, nonfat milk solids, corn syrup
solids, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, imitation vanilla flavor,
carrageenan, cellulose gum, vitamin A palmitate.

Chocolate Syrup: High fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, water, Dutch
processed cocoa, natural (vegetable source) and artificial flavor, salt,
potassium sorbate as a preservative, vanillin.

May contain small amounts of other shake flavors served at the

restaurant, including egg ingredients when Egg Nog Shakes are available,
or earthworms when leftover hamburgers are added to the Shake Mix.
</q>

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Tim Wright

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:04:59 AM8/5/06
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God, nature, and cows had nothing to do with it.

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Blinky the Shark

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:09:16 AM8/5/06
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Ulo Melton wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>>MWB wrote:
>>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>
>>The "Nutrition Information" file here probably can.
>>
>>http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/about/factsheets.html
>
> No, it probably can't. This probably can:

Ah. I wasn't about to download a huge PDF here on the dialup, to check.
Thanks for finding something better.

><http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.categories.ingredients.index.html>
><q>
> Chocolate Triple ThickŽ Shake:
> Shake Mix: Whole milk, sucrose, cream, nonfat milk solids, corn syrup
> solids, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, imitation vanilla flavor,
> carrageenan, cellulose gum, vitamin A palmitate.
>
> Chocolate Syrup: High fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, water, Dutch
> processed cocoa, natural (vegetable source) and artificial flavor, salt,
> potassium sorbate as a preservative, vanillin.

Sounds okay to me.

> May contain small amounts of other shake flavors served at the
> restaurant, including egg ingredients when Egg Nog Shakes are available,
> or earthworms when leftover hamburgers are added to the Shake Mix.
></q>

That's not quite how one quotes a source.

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:10:18 AM8/5/06
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Tim Wright wrote:
> MWB wrote:
>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>
> God, nature, and cows had nothing to do with it.

Except for a preservative, it all looked like pretty natural stuff to
me in the list Ulo posted.

huey.c...@gmail.com

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Aug 5, 2006, 1:33:03 AM8/5/06
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MWB <mark.b...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.

I got one word for you, son: plastics.

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bill van

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Aug 5, 2006, 4:48:53 AM8/5/06
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In article <slrned86j3....@thurston.blinkynet.net>,

Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

> Tim Wright wrote:
> > MWB wrote:
> >> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
> >
> > God, nature, and cows had nothing to do with it.
>
> Except for a preservative, it all looked like pretty natural stuff to
> me in the list Ulo posted.

And the preservative? Formaldehyde?

Greg Goss

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Aug 5, 2006, 8:37:01 AM8/5/06
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"Veronique" <veroniq...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You sound skeptical of a fast food restaurant offering such
information. About a year ago I saw the calorie and other nutrient
information given in great detail in a tray liner that they used for
my McD meal.

The trans fat content chased me off their breakfast hashbrowns.
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plausible prose man

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:40:28 AM8/5/06
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You're an idiot.

Alistair Gale

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On 5 Aug 2006 06:40:28 -0700, "plausible prose man"
<George...@aol.com> wrote:

Thou surly rampallian jolt-head!

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Dana Carpender

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:51:15 AM8/5/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tim Wright wrote:
>
>>MWB wrote:
>>
>>>I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>>
>>>Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>
>>God, nature, and cows had nothing to do with it.
>
>
> Except for a preservative, it all looked like pretty natural stuff to
> me in the list Ulo posted.
>
>


There's nothing particularly natural about high fructose corn syrup,
even if it does start with corn.

Dana

Paul Ciszek

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:59:50 AM8/5/06
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In article <GfCdnTOV5ekGLUnZ...@insightbb.com>,

Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
>
>There's nothing particularly natural about high fructose corn syrup,
>even if it does start with corn.

Wouldn't the same be true of sugar, then?

Why, I wonder, do the ingredients list "sucrose" instead of "sugar"?
The former name sounds more like a chemical.

Charlie Pearce

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:17:36 AM8/5/06
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:37:01 -0600, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

>"Veronique" <veroniq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> MWB wrote:
>>> > I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>>
>>> The "Nutrition Information" file here probably can.
>>>
>>> http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/about/factsheets.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>And yet strangely, besides touting their salads and apple purchasing,
>>actual nutrition information vis ingredients, calories, and nutritional
>>breakdown was strangely lacking.
>
>You sound skeptical of a fast food restaurant offering such
>information. About a year ago I saw the calorie and other nutrient
>information given in great detail in a tray liner that they used for
>my McD meal.

That's rather sneaky of them - presumably most people don't manage to
read it all before said liner turns see-through :-)

Charlie
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Veronique

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:05:57 PM8/5/06
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As you can see by the post I made immediately following, I corrected
myself. It was a bit frustrating, however, to read tthrough the link
Blinky posted and find "nutrition information is provided on all
packaging" rather than a link to the their ingredients-by-item list. I
found it eventually googling, which is slightly annoying.


I can't think of the last time I was in a fast food restaurant,
although I imagine after such media pillaging as "Fast Food Nation" and
"Supersize Me", the information is required to be accessible to
consumers on-site.

Dana Carpender

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:10:31 PM8/5/06
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Greg Goss wrote:

Indeed I generally see a huge poster in every McD's giving the
nutritional content of their food. The fast food industry provides more
nutritional information, more readily available, than any other segment
of the restaurant industry. I mean, if I go to Tallent's, the best
restaurant in Bloomington, and get, say, the medallions of venison with
the fig confit and baked barley pilaf, I will get exactly *no*
nutritional information with it.

For that matter, if I go to your basic diner or corner coffee shop and
order a burger and fries, it will come with no nutritional information.

People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
lunch?

Dana

Ken Herron

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:15:14 PM8/5/06
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In article <1154785228.4...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,

plausible prose man <George...@aol.com> wrote:
>

Well, I'm sure they have dairy in them. But I read years ago that the
government (probably the FDA) has a definition for the term "milk
shake". Many fast-food chains at the time were calling their drinks a
"shake" or "thick shake" because they didn't meet the definition.
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Bermuda999

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:34:44 PM8/5/06
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Ken Herron wrote:
> In article <1154785228.4...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> plausible prose man <George...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >Veronique wrote:
> >> MWB wrote:
> >> > I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Not milk, I don't think. McD's calls them "shakes" so as not to be
> >> dinged for false advertising.
> >
> > You're an idiot.
>
> Well, I'm sure they have dairy in them. But I read years ago that the
> government (probably the FDA) has a definition for the term "milk
> shake". Many fast-food chains at the time were calling their drinks a
> "shake" or "thick shake" because they didn't meet the definition.


http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/mcdshake.htm

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 5, 2006, 12:44:11 PM8/5/06
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I don't recall seeing that.

Jeff Wisnia

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Aug 5, 2006, 1:01:54 PM8/5/06
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MWB wrote:

From my point of view, it's gotta be gas. Those shakes "give me the
wind" something fierce about an hour and a half after downing one of them.

Anyone else experience the same "gift"?

I've been told that it's just from the air bubbles mixed into them.
Supposedly if you leave a "full" one in the fridge for a while the level
in the cup will drop quite noticably after the air comes out of the liquid.

Jeff


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Charlie Pearce

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Aug 5, 2006, 1:51:44 PM8/5/06
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:51:15 -0400, Dana Carpender
<dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:

>There's nothing particularly natural about high fructose corn syrup,
>even if it does start with corn.

Doesn't high fructose corn syrup start with high, not corn?

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 2:30:51 PM8/5/06
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MWB wrote:
> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>
> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.


Beats me, man, the only reason I've been in McDonald's for years is to pee.

Uh, oh.

Mary

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 2:35:16 PM8/5/06
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Dana Carpender wrote:
>
> People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
> standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
> really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
> lunch?


Depends on who you are, I think. Remember the people who sued McD's a
few years ago upon discovering that (gasp!) eating a Whopper and fries
five days a week made them gain weight?

Mary

Veronique

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Aug 5, 2006, 2:45:58 PM8/5/06
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The "pre-fabricated shake mix" was what started the whole non-dairy
rumor, I expect (having heard it as far back as the 70s.)

Veronique

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Aug 5, 2006, 2:47:20 PM8/5/06
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Dana Carpender wrote:


> People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
> standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
> really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
> lunch?


Never underestimate, etc.

plausible prose man

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:05:33 PM8/5/06
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No, I'm pretty sure its just a general sense businessmen are all
dishonest, and a certain notion that McDonald's is too much like an
assembly line in an industrial factory, and not enough like Pop Tate's
Choc'late Shoppe.

>(having heard it as far back as the 70s.)

I bet if you look at AFU, they have an even earlier example of "[food
company] calls its [food product] [some name that doesn't really pin
them down to something] because it contains [weird or unnatural
ingredients] instead of [what you'd use making that thing in your
kitchen]"

plausible prose man

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:09:41 PM8/5/06
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A) Eh...I admit, you can't just find it laying around in the woods or
something, but it's not like you need a cyclotron to make it, either.

B) Natural, schmatural. Rattlesnake venom and Uranium are natural, as
someone I know is fond of pointing out.

C) The next time Gary's over to your house, see if he can get the
other keys on your piano to work.

Greg Goss

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:38:47 PM8/5/06
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"Veronique" <veroniq...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I can't think of the last time I was in a fast food restaurant,
>although I imagine after such media pillaging as "Fast Food Nation" and
>"Supersize Me", the information is required to be accessible to
>consumers on-site.

Back when Arbys was mostly selling lean beef on bread, they had a
poster in their restaurant listing everything. Then they started
putting that gross liquid cheez onto everything and the poster
disappeared. I assume that the yellow vaguely-cheese-like product is
high in fats, calories, sodium, trans fats, endagered species and
everything else evil.

Charlie Pearce

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:41:54 PM8/5/06
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On this side of the pond, we call the other reason you might have
chosen "going for a McShit". If, when confronted, one insists they
intend to purchase following the lavatorial visit, that's a "McShit
and lies".

Greg Goss

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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:

>Greg Goss wrote:
>> About a year ago I saw the calorie and other nutrient
>> information given in great detail in a tray liner that they used for
>> my McD meal.
>

>Indeed I generally see a huge poster in every McD's giving the
>nutritional content of their food. The fast food industry provides more
>nutritional information, more readily available, than any other segment
>of the restaurant industry. I mean, if I go to Tallent's, the best
>restaurant in Bloomington, and get, say, the medallions of venison with
>the fig confit and baked barley pilaf, I will get exactly *no*
>nutritional information with it.
>
>For that matter, if I go to your basic diner or corner coffee shop and
>order a burger and fries, it will come with no nutritional information.
>
>People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
>standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
>really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
>lunch?

The fast food industry is selling "repeatability". The potatoes will
be identical today in Calgary to what I ate in Paris in 1999. You
cannot ensure that consistency at Tallent's, and that's not what
Tallent's is selling.

Greg Goss

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:50:44 PM8/5/06
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Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

>bill van wrote:
>> In article <slrned86j3....@thurston.blinkynet.net>,
>> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Wright wrote:
>>> > MWB wrote:
>>> >> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>> >
>>> > God, nature, and cows had nothing to do with it.
>>>
>>> Except for a preservative, it all looked like pretty natural stuff to
>>> me in the list Ulo posted.
>>
>> And the preservative? Formaldehyde?
>
>I don't recall seeing that.

How about Potassium Sorbate?

Greg Goss

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:51:33 PM8/5/06
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nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:

>
>In article <GfCdnTOV5ekGLUnZ...@insightbb.com>,
>Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>There's nothing particularly natural about high fructose corn syrup,
>>even if it does start with corn.
>
>Wouldn't the same be true of sugar, then?
>
>Why, I wonder, do the ingredients list "sucrose" instead of "sugar"?
>The former name sounds more like a chemical.

They often list six or seven different kinds of sugar, usually trying
to get sugar out of the first or second place in the ingredients list.

Greg Goss

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:53:02 PM8/5/06
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Jeff Wisnia <jwi...@conversent.net> wrote:

>MWB wrote:
>
>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>
> From my point of view, it's gotta be gas. Those shakes "give me the
>wind" something fierce about an hour and a half after downing one of them.
>
>Anyone else experience the same "gift"?
>
>I've been told that it's just from the air bubbles mixed into them.
>Supposedly if you leave a "full" one in the fridge for a while the level
>in the cup will drop quite noticably after the air comes out of the liquid.

There's a lot of gas in them, but my system handles it well. It's the
calories that are a hazard for me. And Dana will probably point out
that the GI is playing hell with my appetite regulation and insulin
metabolism.

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:54:30 PM8/5/06
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What about it? Is that the preservative I mentioned? I don't recall
exactly what it was, but whatever it was didn't seem like anything to
have a frenzy of fear over.

Veronique

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Aug 5, 2006, 4:04:43 PM8/5/06
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Greg Goss wrote:
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
>
> >Greg Goss wrote:
> >> About a year ago I saw the calorie and other nutrient
> >> information given in great detail in a tray liner that they used for
> >> my McD meal.
> >
> >Indeed I generally see a huge poster in every McD's giving the
> >nutritional content of their food. The fast food industry provides more
> >nutritional information, more readily available, than any other segment
> >of the restaurant industry. I mean, if I go to Tallent's, the best
> >restaurant in Bloomington, and get, say, the medallions of venison with
> >the fig confit and baked barley pilaf, I will get exactly *no*
> >nutritional information with it.
> >
> >For that matter, if I go to your basic diner or corner coffee shop and
> >order a burger and fries, it will come with no nutritional information.
> >
> >People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
> >standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
> >really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
> >lunch?
>
> The fast food industry is selling "repeatability".

Yeah, when I was a teenager pre-veg, the stuff kinda gave me gas too.

Bob Ward

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Aug 5, 2006, 4:21:05 PM8/5/06
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I don't think McD's would sue based on publicity relating to Whoppers,
but Burger King might.

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 4:24:53 PM8/5/06
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Heh. Whoops. Shows how often I pay attention to fast food these days.

How 'bout a Quarter Pounder?

Mary

Bob Ward

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Aug 5, 2006, 4:24:50 PM8/5/06
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:01:54 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
<jwi...@conversent.net> wrote:

>MWB wrote:
>
>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate milkshake.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>
> From my point of view, it's gotta be gas. Those shakes "give me the
>wind" something fierce about an hour and a half after downing one of them.
>
>Anyone else experience the same "gift"?
>
>I've been told that it's just from the air bubbles mixed into them.
>Supposedly if you leave a "full" one in the fridge for a while the level
>in the cup will drop quite noticably after the air comes out of the liquid.
>
>Jeff


Isn't this a bit ike complaining about all the naughty stuff that's on
TV harming your kids? If the first shake gave me gas, I wouldn't
bother with the second.

Perhaps we need a "Shake Nanny", requiring you to sign a release
stasting that you're not lactose intolerant before handing over the
straw.

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 5:02:07 PM8/5/06
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Who's suggesting any legislation? All Greg and Jeff did was speculate
on the contents.

Mary

Mark Steese

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Aug 5, 2006, 5:02:31 PM8/5/06
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Jeff Wisnia <jwi...@conversent.net> wrote in
news:eqidnb78C9afUknZ...@comcast.com:

> MWB wrote:
>
>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate
>> milkshake.
>>
>> Mark
>
> From my point of view, it's gotta be gas. Those shakes "give me the
> wind" something fierce about an hour and a half after downing one of
> them.
>
> Anyone else experience the same "gift"?
>
> I've been told that it's just from the air bubbles mixed into them.
> Supposedly if you leave a "full" one in the fridge for a while the
> level in the cup will drop quite noticably after the air comes out of
> the liquid.

I'd guess the internal gas comes from the digestion of large amounts of
sugar and dairy combined in more-or-less liquid form. It seems to me that
if it were due to air bubbles, the effect should show up much sooner, as it
does with the air bubbles in soft drinks and malt beverages.
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Aug 5, 2006, 5:37:05 PM8/5/06
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On 2006-08-05, Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'd guess the internal gas comes from the digestion of large amounts of
> sugar and dairy combined in more-or-less liquid form. It seems to me that
> if it were due to air bubbles, the effect should show up much sooner, as it
> does with the air bubbles in soft drinks and malt beverages.

It's from whipping. Surely you have noticed that milkshakes are more
viscous than soda?
--
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Mark Steese

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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote in
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[snip]

> Indeed I generally see a huge poster in every McD's giving the
> nutritional content of their food. The fast food industry provides
> more nutritional information, more readily available, than any other

> segment of the restaurant industry. I mean, if I go to Tallent's, the


> best restaurant in Bloomington, and get, say, the medallions of
> venison with the fig confit and baked barley pilaf, I will get exactly
> *no* nutritional information with it.
>
> For that matter, if I go to your basic diner or corner coffee shop and
> order a burger and fries, it will come with no nutritional
> information.
>

> People hold the fast food industry to a different, much more stringent
> standard than the rest of the restaurant industry. I mean, do you
> really need a poster to tell you that fries and a coke ain't a healthy
> lunch?

People have tried to hold the rest of the restaurant industry to the
same standard, but the industry has successfully fought them off, using
the not-unreasonable argument that the food provided by non-chain
restaurants varies too much to allow standardized nutritional reporting.
Restaurants that aren't part of a chain typically offer daily specials,
substitutions, combinations, and special orders unavailable at a chain.
It's the uniform consistency of chain restaurant foods that makes the
nutritional info charts possible.

Moreover, fast-food chains (especially McDonald's and Burger King)
promoted themselves as great places to bring the kids when you just
don't have time to cook at home. Consequently, they were obliged to
pretend that the food they provided was wholesome and fine for children,
which meant that they couldn't exactly say "Fuck off" when people asked
them to provide the stats.

Flush with their success at forcing the fast-food chains' hand, the dog
ticks who run CSPI tried to do the same to other types of restaurants --
I remember them blasting the horribly unhealthy nature of food at
Chinese restaurants and Italian restaurants. But Chinese and Italian
restaurants don't typically promote roast pork egg foo yung and
fettucine alfredo as wholesome fare for the kiddies. Typically, the
restaurant owners would just add a couple of "heart-smart" dishes to the
menu and go about their business.

Bob Ward

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I learned a lesson in speaking Drive-thru the other day. I stopped at
McDonalds and placed an order on the squawk-box for my usual - two
double cheeseburgers and "The biggest iced-tea you sell, with no lemon
and no sugar." When I got to the second window (you pay at the first)
I was handed a paper bag, and wished a good day. I asked "What about
my tea?"

The window-person replied "You ordered three burgers - two double
cheese, and a 'big-and-tasty', with no lettuce."

From now on, I'll be sure to specify "To drink, I'll have a forty-two
ounce glass of iced tea, with no lemon and no sugar".

Bob Ward

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Aug 5, 2006, 6:15:12 PM8/5/06
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If he's still drinking them and saying they always give him gas, you'd
think that either he would learn after a few times, or he enjoys the
gas.

Experience means learning to recognize a mistake teach time you make
it.


Tim Wright

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Aug 5, 2006, 7:41:40 PM8/5/06
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When ordering iced tea at a drive through, which I do frequently, I
order the tea, then wait for them to ask sweet or unsweet. Instead of
replying unsweet, I just say "Un". I find this to yield the best results.

--

Tim W

Dover Beach

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Aug 5, 2006, 7:51:33 PM8/5/06
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Tim Wright <tlwri...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:U0aBg.1803$Lh4.884@trnddc02:

> Bob Ward wrote:
"
>>
>> From now on, I'll be sure to specify "To drink, I'll have a forty-two
>> ounce glass of iced tea, with no lemon and no sugar".
>
> When ordering iced tea at a drive through, which I do frequently, I
> order the tea, then wait for them to ask sweet or unsweet. Instead of
> replying unsweet, I just say "Un". I find this to yield the best
> results.
>

Years ago I learned that I need to say "and a large Diet." That stops
them from telling you that they don't have Diet Coke/Pepsi, they only
have Diet Coke/Pepsi. I'd rather have Diet Pepsi but I don't care, the
main thing is to get sugar-free *something*.

--
Dover

Tim Wright

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Aug 5, 2006, 8:01:50 PM8/5/06
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One of the guys in my motorcycle club just orders "diet brown".

--

Tim W

Peter Ward

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Aug 5, 2006, 8:07:18 PM8/5/06
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:24:53 GMT, Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:

Kind of you to offer, but I think I'll pass.

--

Peter

I'm an alien

email: groups at asylum dot nildram dot co dot uk

Bob Ward

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Aug 5, 2006, 8:20:51 PM8/5/06
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:41:40 GMT, Tim Wright <tlwri...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>> I learned a lesson in speaking Drive-thru the other day. I stopped at
>> McDonalds and placed an order on the squawk-box for my usual - two
>> double cheeseburgers and "The biggest iced-tea you sell, with no lemon
>> and no sugar." When I got to the second window (you pay at the first)
>> I was handed a paper bag, and wished a good day. I asked "What about
>> my tea?"
>>
>> The window-person replied "You ordered three burgers - two double
>> cheese, and a 'big-and-tasty', with no lettuce."
>>
>> From now on, I'll be sure to specify "To drink, I'll have a forty-two
>> ounce glass of iced tea, with no lemon and no sugar".
>
>When ordering iced tea at a drive through, which I do frequently, I
>order the tea, then wait for them to ask sweet or unsweet. Instead of
>replying unsweet, I just say "Un". I find this to yield the best results.


Y'all are from the south, aren't you? I didn't think unsweet was an
option there.

Message has been deleted

Pixel Dent

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:10:32 PM8/5/06
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In article <cddad2h4n8mbqk1al...@4ax.com>,
Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote:

Well, if you don't specify it does come sweet, but I haven't run across
anyplace that doesn't have unsweet as an option.

Hactar

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:16:02 PM8/5/06
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In article <cddad2h4n8mbqk1al...@4ax.com>,
Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote:
>

We must be weirdos then. Everybody I'm related to takes tea unsweetened,
and we've lived in Florida for >30 years. Before that, my mom &c were
in Kentucky.

ObShortening: When I got a salad at some restaurant, they'd invariably
ask me what kind of dressing. I'd say "Blue." "Bleu cheese?" "Anything
blue."
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.no-ip.org:81
VIRGO: All Virgos are extremely friendly and intelligent - except
for you. Expect a big surprise today when you wind up with your
head impaled upon a stick. -- Weird Al, _Your Horoscope for Today_

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:32:01 PM8/5/06
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Peter Ward wrote:

How'd you like a nice Hawaiin Punch?

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:37:48 PM8/5/06
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Alistair Gale (alis...@invalid.invalid) wrote:

> On 5 Aug 2006 06:40:28 -0700, "plausible prose man"
> <George...@aol.com> wrote:


>
>>
>>Veronique wrote:
>>> MWB wrote:
>>> > I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their
>>> > chocolate milkshake.
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>> Not milk, I don't think. McD's calls them "shakes" so as not to
>>> be dinged for false advertising.
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>
> Thou surly rampallian jolt-head!
>

Would you really say that? I was thinking more, "Thou lumpish pottle-
deep murderous coward!" But these things are a matter of taste.

--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet

SoCalMike

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:15:01 PM8/5/06
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Tim Wright wrote:
> One of the guys in my motorcycle club just orders "diet brown".

aside from cola, it could mean some kind of diet drpepper/mr
pibb/rootbeer thingie.

Dover Beach

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:16:11 PM8/5/06
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Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns9816D1DEC78D1op...@127.0.0.1:

That bottled spider, that foul bunch-back'd toad. No, wait, we're
talking about V. That tea-drinking sweetie-muffin.

--
Dover

plausible prose man

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:55:08 PM8/5/06
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There's only so sweet you can be when you're stupid, no matter how
much tea you drink.

Or maybe it's "There's only so sweet I can be when you're stupid," but
either way...

Rick B.

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:57:24 PM8/5/06
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> Alistair Gale (alis...@invalid.invalid) wrote:

Sweep on, you fat and greasy citizens!

Rick "Hey, we *are* talking about McDonald's here" B.

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 10:59:51 PM8/5/06
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Weren't Alistair and Opus talking about George?

Mary
Confused.

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:00:32 PM8/5/06
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And that would be just nasty.

Mary

Mary

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:01:49 PM8/5/06
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Hactar wrote:
> In article <cddad2h4n8mbqk1al...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:41:40 GMT, Tim Wright <tlwri...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I learned a lesson in speaking Drive-thru the other day. I stopped at
>>>> McDonalds and placed an order on the squawk-box for my usual - two
>>>> double cheeseburgers and "The biggest iced-tea you sell, with no lemon
>>>> and no sugar." When I got to the second window (you pay at the first)
>>>> I was handed a paper bag, and wished a good day. I asked "What about
>>>> my tea?"
>>>>
>>>> The window-person replied "You ordered three burgers - two double
>>>> cheese, and a 'big-and-tasty', with no lettuce."
>>>>
>>>> From now on, I'll be sure to specify "To drink, I'll have a forty-two
>>>> ounce glass of iced tea, with no lemon and no sugar".
>>> When ordering iced tea at a drive through, which I do frequently, I
>>> order the tea, then wait for them to ask sweet or unsweet. Instead of
>>> replying unsweet, I just say "Un". I find this to yield the best results.
>> Y'all are from the south, aren't you? I didn't think unsweet was an
>> option there.
>
> We must be weirdos then. Everybody I'm related to takes tea unsweetened,
> and we've lived in Florida for >30 years. Before that, my mom &c were
> in Kentucky.


Florida's chock-full of snowbirds and Northerner retirees. Can't hardly
really be considered Southern, any more.

Mary

Dover Beach

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:06:24 PM8/5/06
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Could be. So we could be back to bottled spiders. Though why bottled
is worse than free-range is unclear.


--
Dover

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:20:59 PM8/5/06
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Mary (mrfea...@aol.com) wrote:
> Dover Beach wrote:
>> Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alistair Gale (alis...@invalid.invalid) wrote:
>>>> "plausible prose man" <George...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Veronique wrote:
>>>>>> MWB wrote:
>>>>>>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their
>>>>>>> chocolate milkshake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not milk, I don't think. McD's calls them "shakes" so as not
>>>>>> to be dinged for false advertising.
>>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>> Thou surly rampallian jolt-head!
>>>>
>>> Would you really say that? I was thinking more, "Thou lumpish
>>> pottle- deep murderous coward!" But these things are a matter of
>>> taste.
>>>
>>
>> That bottled spider, that foul bunch-back'd toad. No, wait,
>> we're talking about V. That tea-drinking sweetie-muffin.
>>
>
>
> Weren't Alistair and Opus talking about George?
>
> Mary
> Confused.

I sure was.

Bill Turlock

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:33:44 PM8/5/06
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Greg Goss wrote:
>
> "Veronique" <veroniq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I can't think of the last time I was in a fast food restaurant,
> >although I imagine after such media pillaging as "Fast Food Nation" and
> >"Supersize Me", the information is required to be accessible to
> >consumers on-site.
>
> Back when Arbys was mostly selling lean beef on bread, they had a
> poster in their restaurant listing everything. Then they started
> putting that gross liquid cheez onto everything and the poster
> disappeared. I assume that the yellow vaguely-cheese-like product is
> high in fats, calories, sodium, trans fats, endagered species and
> everything else evil.
> --
> Tomorrow is today already.
> Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

I'm probably wrong about this, it's been that kind of week, but
I'm not going to let that stop me. Back when Arby's (R-Bs, get
it?) first surfaced, we had 'em in Omaha, and you could watch the
big chunk of beef being slow roasted before your very eyes.
Later, when corporate wanted to go to the chopped, processed,
formed and molded version some of the franchisees revolted. But I
don't remember how that played out.

Bill "brought to you by lack of data" Turlock

Bill Turlock

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:35:19 PM8/5/06
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--boggle--

rob...@bestweb.net

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:17:55 AM8/6/06
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Bob Ward wrote:

> I learned a lesson in speaking Drive-thru the other day. I stopped at
> McDonalds and placed an order on the squawk-box for my usual - two
> double cheeseburgers and "The biggest iced-tea you sell, with no lemon
> and no sugar." When I got to the second window (you pay at the first)
> I was handed a paper bag, and wished a good day. I asked "What about
> my tea?"

> The window-person replied "You ordered three burgers - two double
> cheese, and a 'big-and-tasty', with no lettuce."

> From now on, I'll be sure to specify "To drink, I'll have a forty-two
> ounce glass of iced tea, with no lemon and no sugar".

"Tonight, I'll have four Dewar's over ice cream, with a lamb sandwich
and cigar."

Tim Wright

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:27:35 AM8/6/06
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Keeps him happy.

--

Tim W

Tim Wright

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:38:13 AM8/6/06
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I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day. Some
time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank iced tea
without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it sweet again.
I thought I'd prove him wrong, proved him right instead. That was 30+
years ago, and I haven't been able to drink sweet iced tea ever since.
I must have sweetener in my hot tea however. I don't understand it,
that's just the way I am.

Used to be the fast food places didn't have tea of any kind, just sodas.
Then some of them started offering instant tea. That's just wrong!
Nasty, vile, undrinkable stuff. But the last few years they've started
brewing real tea, and most places it's pretty good. Wendy's has very
good tea in very large cups.

--

Tim W

Tim Wright

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:41:54 AM8/6/06
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Florida is the sad flaccid penis of the North American continent. If it
was jutting proudly into the Atlantic it would be different.

--

Tim W

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:46:46 AM8/6/06
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Tim Wright wrote:

> I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day. Some
> time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank iced tea
> without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it sweet again.

Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
taste kind of thing.

Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:49:21 AM8/6/06
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Tim Wright wrote:

> Florida is the sad flaccid penis of the North American continent. If
> it was jutting proudly into the Atlantic it would be different.

B. Kilban (I believe it was) got there back in the seventies. One-frame
cartoon map showing the SE corner of the US and Cuba, with a speech
balloon from the US saying "Hey, Cuba. Suck my Florida." :)

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:50:23 AM8/6/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tim Wright wrote:
>
>> Florida is the sad flaccid penis of the North American continent. If
>> it was jutting proudly into the Atlantic it would be different.
>
> B. Kilban (I believe it was) got there back in the seventies. One-frame

Kliban, fer crissakes. :(

Tim Wright

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:51:56 AM8/6/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tim Wright wrote:
>
>
>>I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day. Some
>>time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank iced tea
>>without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it sweet again.
>
>
> Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
> something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
> taste kind of thing.
>
> Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
> significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...
>
>
I drank sweet tea as far back as I can remember. You went from your
mother's teat to a bottle of sweet tea.

--

Tim W

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:54:47 AM8/6/06
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I wonder if that's regional. Where were you and your mother's teats?

Tim Wright

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:56:58 AM8/6/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tim Wright wrote:
>
>>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>>Tim Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day.
>>>>Some time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank
>>>>iced tea without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it
>>>>sweet again.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature)
>>>wasn't something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a
>>>grown-up taste kind of thing.
>>>
>>>Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
>>>significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...
>>>
>>
>>I drank sweet tea as far back as I can remember. You went from your
>>mother's teat to a bottle of sweet tea.
>
>
> I wonder if that's regional. Where were you and your mother's teats?
>
>

Around Dallas, Texas. Denton, actually. She was raised in Wichita
Falls, and my dad was raised in Fort Worth.

--

Tim W

Bob Ward

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:28:34 AM8/6/06
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:51:56 GMT, Tim Wright <tlwri...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:


Tea... in a bottle? This is nuttier than I thought.

Greg Goss

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:38:23 AM8/6/06
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Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock"@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:

>Greg Goss wrote:

>I'm probably wrong about this, it's been that kind of week, but
>I'm not going to let that stop me. Back when Arby's (R-Bs, get
>it?) first surfaced, we had 'em in Omaha, and you could watch the
>big chunk of beef being slow roasted before your very eyes.
>Later, when corporate wanted to go to the chopped, processed,
>formed and molded version some of the franchisees revolted. But I
>don't remember how that played out.
>
>Bill "brought to you by lack of data" Turlock

It played out when I claimed that the lump of meat was roast beast and
several people laughed in stunned astonishment that I was fooled. So
I went to Arby's web site and it was indeed chopped processed etc.

Mark Steese

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Aug 6, 2006, 4:23:41 AM8/6/06
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Carl Fink <ca...@panix.com> wrote in
news:slrneda3s1...@panix2.panix.com:

> On 2006-08-05, Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd guess the internal gas comes from the digestion of large amounts
>> of sugar and dairy combined in more-or-less liquid form. It seems to
>> me that if it were due to air bubbles, the effect should show up much
>> sooner, as it does with the air bubbles in soft drinks and malt
>> beverages.
>
> It's from whipping. Surely you have noticed that milkshakes are more
> viscous than soda?

I think I failed to make myself clear: I was talking about why someone
might get intestinal gas an hour or so after drinking a milkshake, as Jeff
says has happened to him.
--
Mark Steese
=======================
The disturbed eyes rise,
furtive, foiled, dissatisfied
from meditation on the true
and insignificant.

Pixel Dent

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Aug 6, 2006, 7:38:22 AM8/6/06
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In article <xYcBg.120093$1i1.65725@attbi_s72>,
Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:

Yeah, but I fly all over the South on weekends just for fun and haven't
had any trouble finding unsweet. That being said my sample set is
limited to restaurants within a 1/2 hour or so of an airport with a
3000' runway and a loaner car.

Pixel Dent

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Aug 6, 2006, 7:48:08 AM8/6/06
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In article <slrnedat3e....@thurston.blinkynet.net>,

Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

> Tim Wright wrote:
>
> > I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day. Some
> > time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank iced tea
> > without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it sweet again.
>
> Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
> something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
> taste kind of thing.
>
> Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
> significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...

Hot tea started very early but it was something to drink when I was sick
(green tea usually).

Iced tea for pleasure around 4th grade.

Dover Beach

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Aug 6, 2006, 9:06:16 AM8/6/06
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Pixel Dent <pixel...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:YFkBg.15094$PO.12044@dukeread03:


>
> Hot tea started very early but it was something to drink when I was
> sick (green tea usually).
>

Yeah, it was a drink for when you were sick. Mom had a really pretty
china teacup with roses and if you were sick you got a cup of hot tea in
the pretty china cup.

--
Dover (it was regular black tea though)

Carl Fink

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Aug 6, 2006, 9:59:51 AM8/6/06
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On 2006-08-06, Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Carl Fink <ca...@panix.com> wrote in
> news:slrneda3s1...@panix2.panix.com:
>
>> On 2006-08-05, Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd guess the internal gas comes from the digestion of large amounts
>>> of sugar and dairy combined in more-or-less liquid form. It seems to
>>> me that if it were due to air bubbles, the effect should show up much
>>> sooner, as it does with the air bubbles in soft drinks and malt
>>> beverages.
>>
>> It's from whipping. Surely you have noticed that milkshakes are more
>> viscous than soda?
>
> I think I failed to make myself clear: I was talking about why someone
> might get intestinal gas an hour or so after drinking a milkshake, as Jeff
> says has happened to him.

Oh. You meant "internal to the person" and I read "internal to the
milkshake".

Because, you see, soda and malt beverages don't have air bubbles. They have
carbon dioxide bubbles. I thought that was the distinction you were
drawing.
--
Carl Fink nitpi...@nitpicking.com

Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com. Reviews! Observations!
Stupid mistakes you can correct!

Alistair Gale

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Aug 6, 2006, 9:59:11 AM8/6/06
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:20:59 GMT, Opus the Penguin
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mary (mrfea...@aol.com) wrote:
>> Dover Beach wrote:
>>> Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Alistair Gale (alis...@invalid.invalid) wrote:
>>>>> "plausible prose man" <George...@aol.com> wrote:

[snip]


>>>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>>> Thou surly rampallian jolt-head!
>>>>>
>>>> Would you really say that? I was thinking more, "Thou lumpish
>>>> pottle- deep murderous coward!" But these things are a matter of
>>>> taste.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That bottled spider, that foul bunch-back'd toad. No, wait,
>>> we're talking about V. That tea-drinking sweetie-muffin.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Weren't Alistair and Opus talking about George?
>>
>> Mary
>> Confused.
>
>I sure was.

AOL


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Carl Fink

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On 2006-08-06, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

> Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
> something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
> taste kind of thing.
>
> Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
> significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...

I drank gallons of tea through the first year of high school, and now drink
it only rarely (and almost always in restaurants).

Veronique

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Carl Fink wrote:
> On 2006-08-06, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
> > something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
> > taste kind of thing.
> >
> > Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
> > significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...
>
> I drank gallons of tea through the first year of high school, and now drink
> it only rarely (and almost always in restaurants).


In a startling example of synchronicity, I'm drinking tea *right this
very moment!*


V.
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Charlie Pearce

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Aug 6, 2006, 10:17:00 AM8/6/06
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On 6 Aug 2006 07:07:16 -0700, "Veronique" <veroniq...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Leroy.

Charlie
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I wuv you guys.


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Mary

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:55:06 PM8/6/06
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tim Wright wrote:
>
>> I was raised on sweet tea. Drank it lunch and dinner every day. Some
>> time around high school graduation a friend said if you drank iced tea
>> without sugar for a month you'd never be able to drink it sweet again.
>
> Now I (not a tea drinker) would've said tea (at any temperature) wasn't
> something that kids drank. I think of it for some reason as a grown-up
> taste kind of thing.
>
> Of you tea drinkers, how about a yea or nay on whether you drank
> significant amounts of tea before, say, you got out of high school...
>
>


Yup, iced and hot. Mmmm, tea.

Mary

Mary

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Aug 6, 2006, 12:55:56 PM8/6/06
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Hey, my father-in-law grew up in Wichita Falls.

Mary

tooloud

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:09:08 PM8/6/06
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Bob Ward wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:02:07 GMT, Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Bob Ward wrote:
>>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:01:54 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
>>> <jwi...@conversent.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> MWB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had my first and last McDonald's milkshake today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what in the name of GOD is in their chocolate
>>>>> milkshake.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> From my point of view, it's gotta be gas. Those shakes "give me the
>>>> wind" something fierce about an hour and a half after downing one
>>>> of them.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else experience the same "gift"?
>>>>
>>>> I've been told that it's just from the air bubbles mixed into them.
>>>> Supposedly if you leave a "full" one in the fridge for a while the
>>>> level in the cup will drop quite noticably after the air comes out
>>>> of the liquid.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't this a bit ike complaining about all the naughty stuff that's
>>> on TV harming your kids? If the first shake gave me gas, I wouldn't
>>> bother with the second.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we need a "Shake Nanny", requiring you to sign a release
>>> stasting that you're not lactose intolerant before handing over the
>>> straw.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Who's suggesting any legislation? All Greg and Jeff did was
>> speculate on the contents.
>>
>> Mary
>
> If he's still drinking them and saying they always give him gas, you'd
> think that either he would learn after a few times, or he enjoys the
> gas.
>
> Experience means learning to recognize a mistake teach time you make
> it.

Sure, and the other thing that strikes me is that so many people seem to
*like* complaining about McD's food. So you don't like their shakes...don't
eat them. I'm not sure what it is about McDonald's that seems to encourage
people that don't like the food to continuously complain about it. Why can't
some just not like the taste of something and leave it at that?

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Jeff Wisnia

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:35:02 PM8/6/06
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Bob Ward wrote:

It's my aging memory y'see. About once every year or so I forget the
after effects of the previous one I drank and decide it'd be a quick
nutritious pick me up when I've missed lunch, so I swing through the
next McDonald's drive through and order a shake "to go". And, as long as
I'm traveling solo for the next couple of hours, no one's the wiser.

>
> Experience means learning to recognize a mistake teach time you make
> it.
>
>

So, did you spot the mistake in the second sentence of your reply. <G>

I believe in learning from unpleasant experiences, but I try do that
from observing OTHER people receiving such experiences.

Jeff

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Mary

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:39:30 PM8/6/06
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tooloud wrote:

> Sure, and the other thing that strikes me is that so many people seem to
> *like* complaining about McD's food. So you don't like their shakes...don't
> eat them. I'm not sure what it is about McDonald's that seems to encourage
> people that don't like the food to continuously complain about it. Why can't
> some just not like the taste of something and leave it at that?
>

I think a lot of that is probably just needing to fit in, or agree, or
be politically correct. A lot of people probably don't want to admit to
being the kind of person who will eat at McD's.

Mary

Bill Turlock

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:49:18 PM8/6/06
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Pepsi

Mary

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Cheeseburga, cheeseburga?

Mary

Opus the Penguin

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Aug 6, 2006, 5:00:02 PM8/6/06
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Veronique (veroniq...@yahoo.com) wrote:

Come out to Kansas and visit.

> V., angling for an invitation to Barbados

Oh.

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Bill Turlock

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yep

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