AFCA cheap imitation Summary for 09-Feb-07
Rick B.
produced a Vice President of the United States (William A. Wheeler, served
1877-1881). And he was just about everything you'd expect.
To make mincemeat rocks, form mincemeat into balls, then slowly percolate
cool water supersaturated with calcium bicarbonate. Should take about 3
years.
For his most memorable demonstration of what subsequently became known as
the Coanda effect, Coanda used the extremely hot exhaust from his jet
engine, adhering to the steel-sheeted plywood fuselage of his airplane.
Unfortunately, his only flight demonstration ended in a crash and fire, but
the effect itself was further researched and used in a number of
applications.
The Canadian federal government considers fuel cells to be a specialty of
the Vancouver area and has dropped considerable research money into the
region.
Girls have cooties. Or at least different bacteria than boys,
according to researchers at New York University School of Medicine.
The first-ever gravity survey of the entire Antarctic ice sheet, conducted
using data from the NASA/German Aerospace Center Gravity Recovery and
Climate Experiment (GRACE), concludes the ice sheet's mass has decreased
significantly from 2002 to 2005.
The square of 73 is 5,329. Do you know how big that is? Lisa Ann does.
On January 8, 1998, New Jersey Governor Christine Todd Whitman signed into
law Assembly Bill 2654, repealing that state's anti-Roma [Gypsies] law
adopted in 1917. Governor Whitman's signature effectively repealed the last
anti-Roma law on the books of any US state.
Even tiny countries have administrative subdivisions. Monaco is divided
into 4 "quartiers", Andorra is divided into 7 "comuns", and Liechtenstein
has 11 "Gemeinden".
MONITOR SPLATTERS:
Forget Lake Wobegon: I like hearing about Malone, where most of the
children are below average, and half the adults are under arrest.
You mean the CIA will assassinate him?
...and the poor dog ended up like a hyperactive kid after slamming 14 2-
liter Mountain Dews.
I was kinda hoping the Colts would be down big at half time, just to see
if they tried to load their gear into trucks and move the game to Tampa.
Only if House lands on the cute retarded kid.
MOTTOS:
You know, if the first response to a question is facts, we're not going to
get much further.
"He's 4 short of a full grid"
All of this would be fun to watch if it were happening to a planet I didn't
have to live on.
Let's have our McSurgery at the McHospital!
The Clock Runs... The Clock Does Not Run... Who Cares...
There's nothing that expresses a deep love of one's country like a star-
spangled toothpick!
So we won't even bring up quantum entanglement, OK?
I'll let you choose while I get to work on the hookers and beer.
ANTI-MOTTOS:
It appears we are both equitably muddled at this point.
I humbly recant the curse upon you of yester-week.
SEMI-MOTTOS:
And there's a BIG difference between JERK and STUPID.
Asking anyone currently in the service how the war is going would be like
Scarlett O'Hara asking Prissy if a new dress makes her look fat--ask her
again AFTER emancipation and see if you get the same answer.
I suspect an infinite number of monkeys.
This is a pet peeve of mine that comes with its own food bowl and grooming
kit.
Okay, so the blow job while driving is still okay in Vermont, but not in
Maryland, Texas and Connecticut. Got it.
BAND NAMES:
magic terrorist garden
Celebrity Tits
QUESTIONS OF THE WEEK:
I note that the second-largest terrorist group in the Philippines is said
to be the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. Is it possible you thought that
they were under control due to the efforts of the MILF Hunter?
How many of the manly man's manly friends are taking a peek into his
bedroom?
Is legitimate news and opinion forcing porn to the background of the web?
Why should Queen Elizabeth and JK Rowling have all the money?
Damn, now what am I gonna do with all this duct tape?
Has the restraining order expired already?
Will TSA replace the twist tie when they're done rooting through my undies?
THE CONFESSIONS OF AFCA:
My dog's head is bigger than my ass.
I'm still not at all comfortable with the idea that my car has a high
explosive charge aimed directly at my chest.
I can't remember the last time I had a good burger in Omaha.
Scary thing to wake up with melted chocolate all over yourself and the
sheets. Until you realize what it is. And no recollection of getting up and
getting the chocolate.
ADVICE OF THE WEEK:
When the sheet brushes your toe and you scream, that's gout.
My solution is to drink it before it goes skunky.
Because it's easier to stick the rubber stopper in and pump a few times.
Aqua is not Prince's best suit color.
The email is easy to filter, the crazy stalker who shows up on the front
porch, less so.
Army service isn't a really good way to cure depression.
You'll have to change your .sig again -- it became relevant.
If you ever want to pull that sequoia out of your ass and stop by for
anything other than Shawn baiting, feel free.
NEVER TRUST THE END-USERS, AND NEVER TRUST THE DATA. They will FUCK YOU
EVERY TIME.
AFCA COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT:
There is NO WAY I am paying $3.50 for a Deep-Fried Twinkie.
BOASTS OF THE WEEK:
And I didn't use the word "fuck" in it even once!
I still get a compliment on my hot dog from time to time.
DEPARTMENT OF GEEZERY:
The first from-file editor I used was Wordmaster on 8-bit CP/M.
I got to see Bob Seger in 1966 for a quarter (in the basement of a church).
MINOR CELEBRITY CONNECTIONS:
[Frankie Laine] borrowed my belt to make the whip-crack noise in Rawhide.
LOUDSPEAKER ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE WEEK:
The interpretive tour of The Dessert Experience starts at 8:00. Don't be
late.
FICTIONAL PLANET OF THE WEEK:
Munimula
CARTOON DUOS OF THE WEEK:
Shoddy & Mungo
Abercromby & Mitch
COLOR OF THE WEEK:
cop stopper yellow
TATTOO OR SIDE DISH OF THE WEEK:
flaming macaroni and cheese on a crucifix
WIKIPEDIA ENTRY OF THE WEEK:
"Because it uses electricity and contains small pieces, Lite-Brite is not
recommended for children under the age of six, or adults in Boston".
JUST SO STORY OF THE WEEK, AND A MONITOR SPLATTER TOO:
"How the Penguin Got Some Tail"
HAIKU OF THE WEEK:
Flour may keep. May not
Nuts and honey crunchy sweet
Flour keeps bacon fresh.
UTILITY BELT ITEM OF THE WEEK:
Giant Gluestick of Justice
MONDEGREEN OF THE WEEK:
Makes love at midnight with a dude in a cape
WORDS OF THE WEEK (with invaluable contributions from Bill T.):
Bixberry
sharprer
inhance
crampon
miced pie
duel-tire
satrap
festoon
propietary
Razzlefrazzle
phallusee
Winterpeg
Preganatn prengant pregnant prenttgnat prengtnat pregnatn
bottle sized bottle
strip mall Jebus
naboobs
Devil's Avocado
Self-destructing poop
crucifiction
essential pineapple vapors
coffee without adjectives
aaahahahahahahahahahattackkk!!!!!
publicationisationable
summary-pandering
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO US!
AFCA turns 13 sometime this weekend. Traditionally the starting date has
been listed as February 12, 1994 ("Jym Day," after Jym Dyer's "Welcome to
alt.fan.cecil-adams" thread), but Google Groups now shows some posts from
the 10th and the 11th.
--
"Why can't you be/The way I want you to be?
Why can't you see/You've got to change to love me..."
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Shocking discovery of the week:
Another fine compilation. Thanks, Rick.
Boron
Mary
Great summary, Rick. And:
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO US!
Where's the cake and champagne?
Mary
Neal Eckhardt
wrote:
>snip<
BRAVO again!!
And 4 mentions too (a record). It was truly a great report.
Neal
Bill Turlock
Bravo! (Irregardless of Any Mentions)
Neal Eckhardt
"@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
>
>Bravo! (Irregardless of Any Mentions)
You mean regardless, of course. Or are you going for the made-up word
statistics record?
Neal
ra...@westnet.poe.com
I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
valid (if eschewed by some) word.
John
--
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts are unwelcome.
Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
Ask me about joining the NRA.
Neal Eckhardt
>I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
>valid (if eschewed by some) word.
>
From dictionary.com:
—Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two
negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy
of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who
use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a
desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th
century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio
program of the 1930s.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc.
2006.
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be
correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in
nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in
the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for
being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the
logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less
suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it
is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
probably continue to be so.
Bill Turlock
:-)
Lee Ayrton
> Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:27:12 -0800, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock
>> "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Bravo! (Irregardless of Any Mentions)
>
>> You mean regardless, of course. Or are you going for the made-up word
>> statistics record?
>
> I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
> valid (if eschewed by some) word.
That depends on how vigorously one waves their Hand Of Validity.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/84/I0238400.html
"[...] it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably
continue to be so."
--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
Pushmi-Pullyu
<snip delightful summary>
> AFCA turns 13 sometime this weekend. Traditionally the starting date has
> been listed as February 12, 1994 ("Jym Day," after Jym Dyer's "Welcome to
> alt.fan.cecil-adams" thread), but Google Groups now shows some posts from
> the 10th and the 11th.
Good lord, Jym started all this?
Wow, and I actually know him!
Small world...
P
Snidely
Pushmi-Pullyu wrote:
> Good lord, Jym started all this?
> Wow, and I actually know him!
> Small world...
I thought Lord Jym was a Joseph Conrad story, and a relative of Heart
Of Darkness. I never realized our roots were so deep in native soil.
/dps
Random832
Neal Eckhardt wrote:
> Although one might reasonably argue that it
> is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
> unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
> probably continue to be so.
Says who?
More words with redundant affixes:
inflammable
disgruntled
Joetheone
Of course, I especially get a kick out of seeing myself quoted.
probably the same way my dog will knock something off the table on purpose
if he thinks somebody should be paying attention to him.
In a shameless attempt to get another mention, I'm going to start a minor
celebrity connection brag.
The AnsaMan
I want to be gruntled as soon as I can figure out
what that entails.
--
The AnsaMan
Probably the saddest thing you'll ever
see is a mosquito sucking on a
mummy. Forget it, little friend.
Lisa Ann
news:45ccc8a7$0$6819$6c5e...@news.westnet.com...
> Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:27:12 -0800, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock
>> "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >Bravo! (Irregardless of Any Mentions)
>
>> You mean regardless, of course. Or are you going for the made-up word
>> statistics record?
>
> I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
> valid (if eschewed by some) word.
Okay, I have to ask...how can you spell irregardless and eschewed
correctly...and make a typo on the word "up"?
Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann
"Rick B." <deep...@sprynet.com.aq> wrote in message
news:Xns98D254833...@130.133.1.4...
> Shocking discovery of the week: Our favorite village of the damned once
> produced a Vice President of the United States (William A. Wheeler, served
> 1877-1881). And he was just about everything you'd expect.
Cool! 3 mentions and one assist!
Nitpick: 73 squared is 5329. I have no idea what the square (root) of 73
is.
Thanks, Rick!
Lisa Ann
Blinky the Shark
Hey, he only missed both letters of it.
--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
Charles Wm. Dimmick
I had a friend who used to arrange the books on his many
bookshelves by similarity of title. He had, in order:
Journey into Darkness, Heart of Darkness, and Journey
out of Darkness. The closest we ever came to that was
when we put Mao's Red Book next to Robert Welch's
Black Book.
Charles
Snidely
stuff that causes grins.
10x, man!
/dps
Random832
The AnsaMan wrote:
> Random832 said:
>> 2007-02-09 <vmmps251loone8ea1...@4ax.com>,
>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>> Although one might reasonably argue that it
>>> is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
>>> unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
>>> probably continue to be so.
>>
>> Says who?
>>
>> More words with redundant affixes:
>>
>> inflammable
>> disgruntled
>
> I want to be gruntled as soon as I can figure out
> what that entails.
Like I said, it's just a redundant affix.
Greg Goss
>
>"Rick B." <deep...@sprynet.com.aq> wrote in message
>news:Xns98D254833...@130.133.1.4...
>Nitpick: 73 squared is 5329. I have no idea what the square (root) of 73
>is.
I disagree with your pick. That's not a nit. That's dryer fluff.
"The square of [x]" is another way of saying "[x] squared". The
square root (8.somethingsomethingsomethingforever) is something else
entirely.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Lisa Ann
news:Wbazh.17137$ji1....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
When I was a teenager, my folks had a book from Reader's Digest called "The
Joy of Nature" or something like that. They also had the follow-up to "The
Joy of Sex", called "More Joy". When we had the new bookcases built, they
let me put the books away. I thought it was funny to put them next to each
other...until Gramma thought she'd read a little more about natural
wonders...
Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann
news:535i9gF...@mid.individual.net...
> "Lisa Ann" <lisa...@stalnaker.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rick B." <deep...@sprynet.com.aq> wrote in message
>>news:Xns98D254833...@130.133.1.4...
>
>>Nitpick: 73 squared is 5329. I have no idea what the square (root) of 73
>>is.
>
> I disagree with your pick. That's not a nit. That's dryer fluff.
>
> "The square of [x]" is another way of saying "[x] squared". The
> square root (8.somethingsomethingsomethingforever) is something else
> entirely.
I defer to your math expertise then, and apologise to Rick for confusing the
issue.
I am relieved, however, to know that I have dryer fluff and not nits.
Lisa Ann
Guillermo el Gato
<neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>On 09 Feb 2007 19:16:55 GMT, ra...@westnet.poe.com wrote:
>
>
>>I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
>>valid (if eschewed by some) word.
>>
It's one of the words used to differentiate the smart people from the
stupid people.
Ravin' John, you came up exactly as expected! Congrats!
Lee Ayrton
Those aren't really redundant, though. In both cases the prefix isn't a
negation (as is commonly thought) but an intensifier.
Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
relatively recently, in 1813.
Disgruntled comes from gruntled, "to grumble" plus "dis" which in this
case means "very". It dates to 1682.
Random832
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Random832 wrote:
>
>> 2007-02-09 <vmmps251loone8ea1...@4ax.com>,
>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>> Although one might reasonably argue that it
>>> is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
>>> unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
>>> probably continue to be so.
>>
>> Says who?
>>
>> More words with redundant affixes:
>>
>> inflammable
>> disgruntled
>
> Those aren't really redundant, though. In both cases the prefix isn't a
> negation (as is commonly thought) but an intensifier.
"redundant" means "it means the same with it as without it" - same for
irregardless. or debone.
> Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
> English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
> relatively recently, in 1813.
If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed, or people
wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
Blinky the Shark
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:35:53 -0500, Neal Eckhardt
><neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>On 09 Feb 2007 19:16:55 GMT, ra...@westnet.poe.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
>>>valid (if eschewed by some) word.
>>>
>
> It's one of the words used to differentiate the smart people from the
> stupid people.
As is "irregardless".
Snidely
Random832 wrote:
>[...]
> > Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
> > English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
> > relatively recently, in 1813.
>
> If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed, or people
> wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
No, the confusion was because inflammable *appeared* to be an antonym
to its actual meaning, due to having a prefix that *appeared* to say
"not" (when it actually says "very"). Flammable is a retronym*, a
backfilling based on this misapprehension.
False entomologies also give rise to words that are supposed to "fix
problems" with words that are already correct. Alt.usage.english
loves to discuss such words.
*there's another word that also applies, but retronym will do for
now. I'll probably think of the other word when I'm in the middle of
the freeway.
/dps
Lee Ayrton
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Random832 wrote:
>>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>>> Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from
>>>> words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been
>>>> considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.
>>>
>>> Says who?
>>>
>>> More words with redundant affixes:
>>>
>>> inflammable
>>> disgruntled
>>
>> Those aren't really redundant, though. In both cases the prefix isn't a
>> negation (as is commonly thought) but an intensifier.
>
> "redundant" means "it means the same with it as without it" - same for
> irregardless. or debone.
Ah, see, I assumed that "redundant" meant "superfluous, needless,
unnecessary" not "has no effect".
The "ir" in irregardless _is_ redundant, being a second negation. Were it
really an accepted word the meaning would be "without regardlessness".
Curiously, no one says "I meant no irregard."
>> Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
>> English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
>> relatively recently, in 1813.
>
> If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed, or people
> wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
Not really, or rather, not formally. People, the story goes, thought that
"inflammable" meant "does not catch fire" and so the 19th century coinage
for labeling purposes. Apparently "inflammation" was not part of the 19th
century vernacular. Same root, same process, but you wouldn't say "My
knee is flamed" would you. Not unless, of course, you were playing a
slack-jawed yokel.
Can we now move onto "ramen noodles", "ATM machines" and "the la brea tar
pits"?
Lee "Humpty-Dumptyisms lanced while you wait" Ayrton
Jon M
wrote:
>False entomologies also give rise to words that are supposed to "fix
>problems" with words that are already correct. Alt.usage.english
>loves to discuss such words.
I thought false entomologies gave rise to movies about man/fly hybrids
or fifty foot ants. Shirley you meant "false etymologies."
Jon M
rex sofa
Bill Turlock
>
> Guillermo el Gato wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:35:53 -0500, Neal Eckhardt
> ><neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On 09 Feb 2007 19:16:55 GMT, ra...@westnet.poe.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I doubt bill made of the word, and irregardless of who coined it, it's a
> >>>valid (if eschewed by some) word.
> >>>
> >
> > It's one of the words used to differentiate the smart people from the
> > stupid people.
>
> As is "irregardless".
<squeaky high voice> soitenly! > </>
Bill Bonde ( Now with less hoodia as pre-emptive response to possible FDA moves )
Did you really need the last sentence?
--
Thus, if the problem of technological hopelessness is caused by absence
of care, both by technologists and anti-technologists; and if care and
Quality are external and internal aspects of the same thing, then it
follows that what really causes technological hopelessness is absence of
the perception of Quality in technologists and anti-technologists.
Robert Pirsig, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
darkon
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Random832 wrote:
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Random832 wrote:
>>>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
[probably an extra attribute here, but I don't feel like counting.]
>
>>> Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates
>>> to 1605 in English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed
>>> to avoid confusion relatively recently, in 1813.
>>
>> If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed,
>> or people wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
>
> Not really, or rather, not formally. People, the story goes,
> thought that "inflammable" meant "does not catch fire" and so
> the 19th century coinage for labeling purposes. Apparently
> "inflammation" was not part of the 19th century vernacular.
> Same root, same process, but you wouldn't say "My knee is
> flamed" would you. Not unless, of course, you were playing a
> slack-jawed yokel.
>
> Can we now move onto "ramen noodles", "ATM machines" and "the la
> brea tar pits"?
And PIN numbers.
darkon
possible FDA moves )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Jon M wrote:
>>
>> On 10 Feb 2007 12:53:11 -0800, "Snidely"
>> <Snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >False entomologies also give rise to words that are supposed
>> >to "fix problems" with words that are already correct.
>> >Alt.usage.english loves to discuss such words.
>>
>> I thought false entomologies gave rise to movies about man/fly
>> hybrids or fifty foot ants. Shirley you meant "false
>> etymologies."
>>
> Did you really need the last sentence?
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThisIsTheTitleOfThisStory
"This is the first sentence of this story. This is the second
sentence. This is the title of this story, which is also found
several times in the story itself. This sentence is questioning the
intrinsic value of the first two sentences. This sentence is to
inform you, in case you haven't already realized it, that this is a
self-referential story, that is, a story containing sentences that
refer to their own structure and function. This is a sentence that
provides an ending to the first paragraph."
...
Dana Carpender
darkon wrote:
The greatest boy band song ever:
Title of the Song (Da Vinci's Notebook)
Declaration of my feelings for you
Elaboration on those feelings
Description of how long these feelings have existed
Belief that no one else could feel the same as I
Reminiscence of the pleasant times we shared
And our relationship's perfection
Recounting of the steps that led to our love's dissolution
Mostly involving my unfaithfulness and lies
Penitent admission of wrongdoing
Discovery of the depth of my affection
Regret over the lateness of my epiphany
(Chorus)
Title of the song
Naïve expression of love
Reluctance to accept that you are gone
Request to turn back time
And rectify my wrongs
Repetition of the title of the song
Enumeration of my various transgressive actions
Of insufficient motivation
Realization that these actions led to your departure
And my resultant lack of sleep and appetite
Renunciation of my past insensitive behavior
Promise of my reformation
Reassurance that you still are foremost in my thoughts now
Need for instructions how to gain your trust again
Request for reconciliation
Listing of the numerous tasks that I'd perform
Of physical and emotional compensation
CHORUS
Acknowledgment that I acted foolishly
Increasingly desperate pleas for your return
Sorrow for my infidelity
Vain hope that my sins are forgivable
Appeal for one more opportunity
Drop to my knees to elicit crowd response
Prayers to my chosen deity
Modulation and I hold a high note...
CHORUS
Listen to the whole thing here:
http://homepage.mac.com/quinntaylor/title_of_the_song.html
Dana
Jon M
>
>
>Jon M wrote:
>>
>> On 10 Feb 2007 12:53:11 -0800, "Snidely" <Snide...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >False entomologies also give rise to words that are supposed to "fix
>> >problems" with words that are already correct. Alt.usage.english
>> >loves to discuss such words.
>>
>> I thought false entomologies gave rise to movies about man/fly hybrids
>> or fifty foot ants. Shirley you meant "false etymologies."
>>
>Did you really need the last sentence?
It was necessary to show that I not only knew the difference between
"entomologies" and "etymologies," but that I could spell them both.
How else could I prove that I am sofa king smart?
Jon M
Rex sofa
Primate of the Caribbean
Random832
Snidely wrote:
>
> Random832 wrote:
>>[...]
>> > Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
>> > English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
>> > relatively recently, in 1813.
>>
>> If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed, or people
>> wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
>
> No, the confusion was because inflammable *appeared* to be an antonym
> to its actual meaning, due to having a prefix that *appeared* to say
> "not" (when it actually says "very").
The "in" in "inflammable" comes from "inflame", and is not an
intensifier.
> Flammable is a retronym*, a > backfilling based on this misapprehension.
But your original statement seemed to be, basically, some central
authority created the word "flammable" because of confusion between
"inflammable" and "flammable".
Bob Ward
wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Random832 wrote:
>
>> 2007-02-09 <vmmps251loone8ea1...@4ax.com>,
>> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>>> Although one might reasonably argue that it
>>> is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
>>> unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
>>> probably continue to be so.
>>
>> Says who?
>>
>> More words with redundant affixes:
>>
>> inflammable
>> disgruntled
>
>Those aren't really redundant, though. In both cases the prefix isn't a
>negation (as is commonly thought) but an intensifier.
>
>Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
>English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
>relatively recently, in 1813.
>
>Disgruntled comes from gruntled, "to grumble" plus "dis" which in this
>case means "very". It dates to 1682.
So if I state that I am dissatisfied with your explanation, you are OK
with that? Why or why not?
Bill Bonde ( Now with less hoodia as pre-emptive response to possible FDA moves )
Let's not cross this into alt.usage.english.
Lee Ayrton
>>
>> Disgruntled comes from gruntled, "to grumble" plus "dis" which in this
>> case means "very". It dates to 1682.
>
> So if I state that I am dissatisfied with your explanation, you are OK
> with that? Why or why not?
I wouldn't disagree with your use of dissatisfied. I hope that this
disannuls any disappointment on your part.
Sometimes it feels like a not, sometimes it don't.
Lee "...disannuls don't" Ayrton
Lee Ayrton
> 2007-02-10 <1171140791....@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> Snidely wrote:
>>
>> Random832 wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Inflammable comes from inflame, to set alight. The word dates to 1605 in
>>>> English. "Flammable" was deliberately constructed to avoid confusion
>>>> relatively recently, in 1813.
It seems I was misinformed. I retract the "deliberately constructed" and
"1813" above, based on information the AUE FAQ cited below. Substitute
"deliberately adopted" and "1920s". The 1813 date appears to be the first
sighted English translation from Latin.
>>> If there was confusion, clearly "flammable" _already_ existed, or people
>>> wouldn't have thought "inflammable" was an antonym.
>>
>> No, the confusion was because inflammable *appeared* to be an antonym
>> to its actual meaning, due to having a prefix that *appeared* to say
>> "not" (when it actually says "very").
>
> The "in" in "inflammable" comes from "inflame", and is not an
> intensifier.
See: http://www.bartleby.com/64/C003/0126.html
The "in-" in "inflame" is the same "in-" as "incendiary"
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=incendiary
A bunch of "in-" words to browse:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=i&p=4
>> Flammable is a retronym*, a > backfilling based on this misapprehension.
>
> But your original statement seemed to be, basically, some central
> authority created the word "flammable" because of confusion between
> "inflammable" and "flammable".
This might be useful, it is the AUE FAQ. See the entry for "flammable".
http://www.exw6sxq.com/sparky/aue_related/full_faq.html#fxflamma
<q> It was rare until the 1920s when the U.S. National Fire Protection
Association adopted "flammable" because of concern that the "in-" in
"inflammable" might be misconstrued as a negative prefix. </q>
On a related word quibble, "dethaw" appeared in the Sunday Feb. 11th 2007
"Opus" comic strip. http://comics.com/wash/opus/index.html (Today's strip
does not appear here yet.)
Bill Bonde ( Now trans-hoodia free )
I meant more that by making the entire point so explicit, it seems to me
to remove some of the punch.
Charles Bishop
Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
>On a related word quibble, "dethaw" appeared in the Sunday Feb. 11th 2007
>"Opus" comic strip. http://comics.com/wash/opus/index.html (Today's strip
>does not appear here yet.)
Isn't today, Feb 11?
--
charles
Lee Ayrton
So I'm lead to believe (arguments about which calendar is best left by the
roadside in a large paper sack), but it looks from here like they hold the
strip -- so you have to buy the paper if you want to see today's edition.
And I mucked up quoting from memory, the word was "unthaw", not "dethaw".
Lee "I regret the error" Ayrton
Charles Bishop
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Charles Bishop wrote:
>
>> In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.07...@panix1.panix.com>, Lee
>> Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>>
>>> On a related word quibble, "dethaw" appeared in the Sunday Feb. 11th 2007
>>> "Opus" comic strip. http://comics.com/wash/opus/index.html (Today's strip
>>> does not appear here yet.)
>>
>> Isn't today, Feb 11?
>
>So I'm lead to believe (arguments about which calendar is best left by the
>roadside in a large paper sack), but it looks from here like they hold the
>strip -- so you have to buy the paper if you want to see today's edition.
Then the error is mine kind sir. I had taken the url following your info
to mean that you saw the strip there. Then a disconnect when I saw that
today's strip was not there. Fairly made my mind woozy.
>
>And I mucked up quoting from memory, the word was "unthaw", not "dethaw".
Then I don't know why you posted, you ignorant git.
>
>
>
>Lee "I regret the error" Ayrton
charles, as well you should, oh and regards to tLM, bishop
Lee Ayrton
>> And I mucked up quoting from memory, the word was "unthaw", not "dethaw".
>
> Then I don't know why you posted, you ignorant git.
That would be me.
Lee "Ignorant gits, all the way down." Ayrton
Snidely
[...]
> It was necessary to show that I not only knew the difference between
> "entomologies" and "etymologies," but that I could spell them both.
> How else could I prove that I am sofa king smart?
Full points!
/dps
(I plead hurry)