Calculate Bacon Degrees:
I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
My buddy found a 3, but only by plugging in a musician. I found one
that way, too.
Some stats the link "The Center of the Hollywood Universe".
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>Bet that Subject got Dana's attention. :)
>
>Calculate Bacon Degrees:
>
>http://oracleofbacon.org
>
>I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
>Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
You must mean Lon Chaney, Jr. Lon Chaney, Sr. is a 3, at least when I
plug him in. So are Bela Lugosi, Clara Bow and Rudolph Valentino.
Anton Glanzelius ("My Life as a Dog") is a 4. Debbie Doebereiner
("Bubble") is a 5. I haven't found a 6 yet.
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Ulo Melton wrote:
>
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> >Bet that Subject got Dana's attention. :)
> >
> >Calculate Bacon Degrees:
> >
> >http://oracleofbacon.org
> >
> >I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
> >Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
>
> You must mean Lon Chaney, Jr. Lon Chaney, Sr. is a 3, at least when I
> plug him in. So are Bela Lugosi, Clara Bow and Rudolph Valentino.
>
Who is "Lon Chaney"? Is that the Jr or the Sr? Most people who have
heard of either actor think of Jr, I bet.
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I forgot to specify re Chaney, and wasn't prompted with a choice.
I could've sworn I plugged in Bela Lugosi. Poop.
> Anton Glanzelius ("My Life as a Dog") is a 4. Debbie Doebereiner
> ("Bubble") is a 5. I haven't found a 6 yet.
Did you know those people, or go shopping at IMDB?
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From an earlier reply: "I forgot to specify re Chaney, and wasn't
prompted with a choice."
>Ulo Melton wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>>Bet that Subject got Dana's attention. :)
>>>
>>>Calculate Bacon Degrees:
>>>
>>>http://oracleofbacon.org
>>>
>>>I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
>>>Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
>>
>> You must mean Lon Chaney, Jr. Lon Chaney, Sr. is a 3, at least when I
>> plug him in. So are Bela Lugosi, Clara Bow and Rudolph Valentino.
>
>I forgot to specify re Chaney, and wasn't prompted with a choice.
The Oracle of Bacon seems to be fairly stupid regarding names. It
recognizes "Lon Chaney Jr." but not "Lon Chaney, Jr." It also chokes on
diacritics.
>I could've sworn I plugged in Bela Lugosi. Poop.
>
>> Anton Glanzelius ("My Life as a Dog") is a 4. Debbie Doebereiner
>> ("Bubble") is a 5. I haven't found a 6 yet.
>
>Did you know those people, or go shopping at IMDB?
I came up with "Bubble" when I tried to think of films that featured
non-actors. The entire cast would be unconnected to Bacon if not for
David Hubbard, who played in one other movie and a TV episode, thus
connecting himself to others, who connected themselves to others, etc.
That wanker ruined it for everybody.
>I haven't found a 6 yet.
On the other hand, it's pretty easy to find an infinite link (or
non-link, if you prefer) by using documentaries:
Fred A. Leuchter Jr. has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity.
Fred A. Leuchter Jr. cannot be linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature
films.
I still want to find a 6 or greater in a feature film.
My goal as been finding known actors that just happen to be 3s or more,
rather than unknowns in unknown films.
>Ulo Melton wrote:
>> Ulo Melton (hey, that's me!) wrote:
>>
>>>I haven't found a 6 yet.
>>
>> On the other hand, it's pretty easy to find an infinite link (or
>> non-link, if you prefer) by using documentaries:
>>
>> Fred A. Leuchter Jr. has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity.
>> Fred A. Leuchter Jr. cannot be linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature
>> films.
>>
>> I still want to find a 6 or greater in a feature film.
>
>My goal as been finding known actors that just happen to be 3s or more,
>rather than unknowns in unknown films.
I wish you luck finding a known actor with a number greater than 3. Even
Charlie McCarthy has a Bacon number of 3.
> Bet that Subject got Dana's attention. :)
>
> Calculate Bacon Degrees:
>
> http://oracleofbacon.org
>
> I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
> Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
>
> My buddy found a 3, but only by plugging in a musician. I found one
> that way, too.
Yoko Ono is a 3
Charles Chaplin is a 3
David Boyd VI has a Bacon number of Infinity
Who is David Boyd VI? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2212419/
Charles
If you plan to do so by your own unaided efforts, I salute your
indefatigability.
Otherwise, Googling on ["bacon number of 6"] does the job handsomely.
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Wow, even my brother in law is a 2 - and I thought he was a pretty obscure
actor. On the other hand, Ryan Seacrest is a 3.
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speech again the other night. I told him he's been watching too many
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I-tolerate-your crap-because-I-can't-do-any-better-mate. (Jenn
McNanna)*
Speaking of actors playing vampires*, Max Schreck the creepy guy who
played Nosferatu in the original silent movie has a Bacon number of 3.
*According to the movie Shadow of the Vampire, Max Schreck actually was
a vampire.
> Bet that Subject got Dana's attention. :)
>
> Calculate Bacon Degrees:
>
> http://oracleofbacon.org
>
> I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
> Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
I could only get as far as a 3 with Harold Lloyd, Charlie Chaplin, Max
Schreck, and Fatty Arbuckle. Even Buster keaton had a Bacon number of
2.
By trolling around a bit, I did find a Frank Craig with a Bacon number
of 4.
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The top result for "bacon number of 6" returns an actress who has a
Bacon number of 2.
You really have to search for
["bacon number of 6" -erdos -erdös]
to eliminate references to the "Erdös-Bacon Number", which is much
higher than the Bacon number.
Even then, most of the names dredged up with the extended search are so
obscure that http://oracleofbacon.org hasn't heard of them.
For example, Zoran Cikic is claimed to be a 6, but the Bacon Calculator
doesn't recognise the name. All the IMBD entries for Zoran have "(V)"
after the title, which I suppose might mean that they're not feature
films.
"Tawky Tawny" is also claimed to be a 6, but has no IMDB entry.
"President Grover Cleveland" is claimed to be a 6, but IMBD only lists
him as appearing (playing the part of "Himself") in news shorts, not
feature films.
--
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Gentleman of Leisure
:) I shall persist, and hopefully I can come up with someone who's not
made of wood.
And without Robert Wagner. With my tries, Robert Wagner frequently is
the bridge for a 2 score.
Well, then, you and your buddy are lame, as Conrad Veidt, Zeppo Marx,
and Tommy "Butch" Bonde are all threes.
I found a 4, Tsutomu Takakuwa (Gamera vs. Monster X)
-Mitch
-M
I notice many of the silent film stars had KB# of 3, as Brigitte Helm
(Maria in Metropolis), Musidora (Irma Vepp from Les Vampires,) Conrad
Veidt (Cesare in Caligari) and Percy Standing (the creature in Life
Without Soul, the Blinky the Shark Story) as do the twins who play the
tiny Mothra princesses.
> I notice many of the silent film stars had KB# of 3, as Brigitte Helm
>(Maria in Metropolis), Musidora (Irma Vepp from Les Vampires,) Conrad
>Veidt (Cesare in Caligari) and Percy Standing (the creature in Life
>Without Soul, the Blinky the Shark Story) as do the twins who play the
>tiny Mothra princesses.
Three is the slut of Bacon numbers, attached to 485,636 names. Four is
relatively reserved, with only 115,701 attachments. Five through eight
are spinsters by comparison. I don't think any actor with an easily
recognizable name can get a Bacon number higher than three.
>Ulo Melton wrote:
>>
>> I still want to find a 6 or greater in a feature film.
>
>If you plan to do so by your own unaided efforts, I salute your
>indefatigability.
>Otherwise, Googling on ["bacon number of 6"] does the job handsomely.
Sure, but what honor is there in that? Where's the thrill of discovery,
the potential to waste endless hours?
Georges Mieles, while perhaps stretching the definition of "actor," or
at least "any actor with an easily recognizable name" has a KB# of 4.
So's Greta Garbo.
> Ulo Melton wrote:
> > Ulo Melton (hey, that's me!) wrote:
> >
> >>I haven't found a 6 yet.
> >
> > On the other hand, it's pretty easy to find an infinite link (or
> > non-link, if you prefer) by using documentaries:
> >
> > Fred A. Leuchter Jr. has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity.
> > Fred A. Leuchter Jr. cannot be linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature
> > films.
> >
> > I still want to find a 6 or greater in a feature film.
>
> My goal as been finding known actors that just happen to be 3s or more,
> rather than unknowns in unknown films.
I found a few 3s: Fritz Lang, principally a director who acted in a
number of films; Maksim Munzuk (Dersu Uzala and others), Fatty Arbuckle
and Henry B. Walthall (The Birth of a Nation).
bill
Ulo Melton wrote:
>
> plausible prose man wrote:
>
> > I notice many of the silent film stars had KB# of 3, as Brigitte Helm
> >(Maria in Metropolis), Musidora (Irma Vepp from Les Vampires,) Conrad
> >Veidt (Cesare in Caligari) and Percy Standing (the creature in Life
> >Without Soul, the Blinky the Shark Story) as do the twins who play the
> >tiny Mothra princesses.
>
> Three is the slut of Bacon numbers, attached to 485,636 names. Four is
> relatively reserved, with only 115,701 attachments. Five through eight
> are spinsters by comparison. I don't think any actor with an easily
> recognizable name can get a Bacon number higher than three.
>
I tried even Vladimir Garin, who made one movie, in Russian even, and it
was recently, in 2003, and then died in a drowning accident. Even he is
only a 4:
http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon,%20Kevin&game=1&secondname=Garin,+Vladimir+(I)
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I wasn't suggest the journey would be short, grasshopper, nor that it would
be easy. merely that it would bring you safe to harbour.
I am set for 20 results a page and just on page one, without even accessing
the links, I see 3 references to Sixers - at hit 11, hit 18 and hit 20.
Oracle knows them all, but one (Qianping Gao) has become a fiver.
The other two are known to the Oracle and still sixers - Aja Martin and
Eugen Hovind.
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I thought of Fritz Lang (which was probably what, in turn, made me think of
Peter Lorre (a 2)), but I didn't know he was ever in front of the camera.
I'll be.
Osama Bin Laden is said to have a Kevin Bacon number of infinity though
he appears in Fahrenheit 9/11 which has Michael Moore who appeared in
Bowling for Columbine with Charlton Heston who has a Bacon number of
2. (there may be a quicker way, but I have not sorted through all the
Michael Moores).
So the site is not infallible.
>Osama Bin Laden is said to have a Kevin Bacon number of infinity though
>he appears in Fahrenheit 9/11 which has Michael Moore who appeared in
>Bowling for Columbine with Charlton Heston who has a Bacon number of
>2. (there may be a quicker way, but I have not sorted through all the
>Michael Moores).
>So the site is not infallible.
Never mind Charlton Heston, Michael Moore himself has a Bacon number of
2 (via Clint Howard, who played in "Edtv" with Moore and "My Dog Skip"
with Bacon).
I think the Oracle of Bacon won't count a documentary as a feature film,
so Bin Laden won't get a Bacon number until Hollywood recognizes his
talent and casts him as a leading man opposite Scarlett Johansson or
some such.
> Osama Bin Laden is said to have a Kevin Bacon number of infinity though
> he appears in Fahrenheit 9/11 which has Michael Moore who appeared in
> Bowling for Columbine with Charlton Heston who has a Bacon number of
> 2. (there may be a quicker way, but I have not sorted through all the
> Michael Moores).
> So the site is not infallible.
I don't know that you can consider Osama an actor for being a subject in
a documentary. That would make an awful lot of people actors who are not
in the Bacon number data base. Admittedly though, he's a bad actor.
bill
> bill van wrote:
> > I found a few 3s: Fritz Lang, principally a director who acted in a
> > number of films; Maksim Munzuk (Dersu Uzala and others), Fatty Arbuckle
> > and Henry B. Walthall (The Birth of a Nation).
>
> I thought of Fritz Lang (which was probably what, in turn, made me think of
> Peter Lorre (a 2)), but I didn't know he was ever in front of the camera.
> I'll be.
They're not in my collection, admittedly:
1. Mepris, Le (1963) ....
... aka Contempt (USA)
... aka Disprezzo, Il (Italy)
2. Herr der Liebe, Der (1919)
... aka Master of Love
3. Hilde Warren und der Tod (1917) .... Death
... aka Hilde Warren and Death
imdb also has him appearing as himself in nine other movies.
bill
> Calculate Bacon Degrees:
>
> http://oracleofbacon.org
>
> I couldn't get anything bigger than a 2. Crissakes, even Marlene
> Dietrich and Lon Chaney and E.G. Robinson are only 2s!
>
You probably know this if you explored the site, but Kevin Bacon is not
even in the top 1000 best connected actors.
The top 10:
1. Steiger, Rod (2.678695)
2. Lee, Christopher (I) (2.684104)
3. Hopper, Dennis (2.698471)
4. Sutherland, Donald (I) (2.701850)
5. Keitel, Harvey (2.705573)
6. Pleasence, Donald (2.707490)
7. von Sydow, Max (2.708420)
8. Caine, Michael (I) (2.720621)
9. Sheen, Martin (2.721361)
10. Quinn, Anthony (2.722720)
(The number following the name is the average number of links to connect
to someone else).
Almost all of the top 100 are actors who have been active in the modern
era, which I'll define as since the studio system broke up. I would have
thought that some of the old studio actors would be high on the list,
since many of the character actors appeared in several pictures a year
for many years, but perhaps making movies for primarily one studio
limited the "cross-fertilization".
I'm not sure what characteristics are the most important for being
well-connected. Obviously, making a lot of movies helps, and it appears
that making movies in more than one country and being in films with
large and/or all-star casts are of some benefit.
--
Hank Gillette
There are huge differences between the Nixon presidency and this one, of
course, but surprisingly few would appear to redound to this administration's
benefit, including even the fundamental question of the competence of the
president. -- Carl Bernstein
Mr C
Alas, my knowledge of porn stars is insufficient for me to make many
attempts, although Hypatia Lee is a 3. I didn't go through all the
John Holmes's to find the right one. Linda Lovelace and Marilyn
Chambers are both 2s.
I found a 4! Subir Bannerjee.
Ok, you've never heard of him. But most serious students of film have
heard of Panther Pachali by Indian director Satyajit Ray. Subir
Bannerjee played Apu.[1] Others from that film who rate a 4 are Kanu
Bannerjee (who has an impressive resume), Uma Das Gupta, and
Chunibala Devi. There may be others, but I stopped looking.
[1] No, not Nahasapeemapetilon, you mook.
Some of the actors in The Battleship Potemkin also rate a 4. And some
from Alexander Nevsky.
Lassie (I) was in Science (1911) with King Baggot (I)
King Baggot (I) was in Holiday in Mexico (1946) with Roddy McDowall
Roddy McDowall was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon
That's quite a year span. Maybe it's time to change the game. Find the
largest time span between the object actor and KB.
Mine is 78.
--
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nearly everything, money is handy."
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> Lassie (I) has a Bacon number of 3.
>
> Lassie (I) was in Science (1911) with King Baggot (I)
> King Baggot (I) was in Holiday in Mexico (1946) with Roddy McDowall
> Roddy McDowall was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon
>
> That's quite a year span. Maybe it's time to change the game. Find the
> largest time span between the object actor and KB.
>
> Mine is 78.
How about 97 years?
William Rufus Shafter was in Surrender of General Toral (1898) with Joseph (IV)
Wheeler
Joseph (IV) Wheeler was in General Wheeler and Secretary of War Alger at Camp
Wikoff (1898) with Russell Alexander Alger
Russell Alexander Alger was in President McKinley's Inspection of Camp Wikoff
(1898) with William (I) McKinley
William (I) McKinley was in President McKinley Taking the Oath (1901) with
Marcus Hanna
Marcus Hanna was in Opening of the Pan-American Exposition Showing Vice
President Roosevelt
Leading the Procession (1901) with Theodore Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt was in Womanhood, the Glory of the Nation (1917) with Walter
McGrail
Walter McGrail was in Dick Tracy vs. Crime Inc. (1941) with Wally Rose
Wally Rose was in Murder in the First (1995) with Kevin Bacon
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And an 8 to boot!
How coincidental as I was just planning a watching of the Apu trilogy.
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That rotten horse flesh with the maggots crawling out of it rates more
than a 4 though.
> And some
> from Alexander Nevsky.
>
Cracking through the ice, this is a big film for 1938.
>
> I found a 4! Subir Bannerjee.
>
Found a 5. Thomas A. Edison.
I suspect there'd be a decent negative correlation between year and
Bacon number.
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>
> I suspect there'd be a decent negative correlation between year and
> Bacon number.
>
You might think that, but I don't think it's necessarily true. I looked
at a number of old Edison and Pathé films and the great majority of
actors I tried had Bacon numbers of 3. The problem, of course, is that
there were a few old-time prolific actors who had long careers and acted
well into the 30s and 40s, making the Bacon connection short.
The ideal actor for a high Bacon number would be one who only acted in
one or two films with very small casts composed of other similar actors.
The trick is to find them, since they are by definition obscure.
That's the one scene I remember directly from that movie (as opposed
to seeing it elsewhere--the Odessa steps scene)
But how many steps are there between rotting horse flesh and bacon?
>But how many steps are there between rotting horse flesh and bacon?
Trigger (I) has a Bacon number of 2.
Trigger (I) was in Hit Parade of 1947 (1947) with Eddie Albert
Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon
Black Beauty (I) has a Bacon number of 3.
Black Beauty (I) was in Three in Exile (1925) with Tom London
Tom London was in Domino Kid (1957) with Duane Grey
Duane Grey was in JFK (1991) with Kevin Bacon
Mister Ed has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity.
Mister Ed cannot be linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature films.
More horses:
Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
Scout, which I believe was the name of Tonto's horse, doesn't show up for
Tonto, but the horse name does show up in a 1919 film and scores a 3.
Champion, Gene Autry's horse, is also a 3. "Champion" was in 58 films
from 1945 through 1953. I don't know if it was the same animal; there
were various Lassies (I don't know if there was more than one Rin Tin
Tin).
Silver (a horse with no obvious ties to The Lone Ranger) gets a 3.
Flicka (TV) - not listed.
Fury (TV) - not listed.
>More horses:
>
>Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
I'd like to give Dale Evans some of my buttermilk, boy howdy.
I've found someone who appeared in a dramatic movie but has no links to
Kevin Bacon. Clarence Darrow--he of the Scopes trial, Loeb and Leopold,
etc.--played in _From Dusk to Dawn_ (1913). He has a Bacon number of
infinity.
>Ulo Melton wrote:
>> art...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>But how many steps are there between rotting horse flesh and bacon?
>>
>> Trigger (I) has a Bacon number of 2. Trigger (I) was in Hit Parade of
>> 1947 (1947) with Eddie Albert Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The
>> (1989) with Kevin Bacon
>>
>> Black Beauty (I) has a Bacon number of 3. Black Beauty (I) was in
>> Three in Exile (1925) with Tom London Tom London was in Domino Kid
>> (1957) with Duane Grey Duane Grey was in JFK (1991) with Kevin Bacon
>>
>> Mister Ed has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity. Mister Ed cannot be
>> linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature films.
>
>More horses:
>
>Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
Does this mean then that Dale Evans has no links as well?
[snip equine factoids]
--
charles
I just saw a History Channel doc on Scopes (after having seen "Inherit
The Wind" a couple months ago). In it were a couple of file footage
shots of a biplane that reallly caught my eye. It had fully faired
*tricycle* landing gear. All in all, I suspect it was a '30s craft, but
Scopes was in the '20s. That's probably not unusual, and it was just
visual filler -- there was no reference to the airplane; it was like a
steam locomotive shot or an ocean liner shot to help set a feel for the
times.
I took a photo of the screen to post to an aviation group. But what the
hey -- might as well let AFCA have a crack at it. I've already done a
fair amount of Googling, but haven't found it. Here's the image:
http://blinkynet.net/stuff/bipe.jpg
Distinctive: not just the faired trike gear but the shape of the leading
edge of the vertical stabilizer that nearly meets the passenger
compartment, and that the vertical stabilizer also forms what looks like
a bit of a ventral fin below the horizontal stabilizer and fuselage.
Any takers?
I have a Bacon number of 2.
Boron
I don't know. I didn't look for Dale Evans links.
Boron Elgar wrote:
I'm either a 2 or a 4, depending on how you look at it.
I'm a 4 two ways:
My bestest-ever girlfriend went to drama school at -- I think it was
Case-Western -- with Melina Kanakaredes (Providence) who was a star for
several years on Guiding Light, along with Jerry Ver Dorn, who was also
a star on GL at the time Kevin Bacon was on.
Also, I worked at The World's Largest Liquor Store back in the very
early '80s with a kid named Kenan Altay, whose sister, Ringen Altay, was
just taking over from Patti LuPone as Evita in the Broadway production.
Patti's brother Robert LuPone was on GL in a minor role, yadda yadda.
I also sat across the aisle and one ahead on a plane one day from the
guy who slugged KB in the jaw in Footloose. Dunno if that counts, but
if it does, I'm a 2.
Dana
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Charles Bishop wrote:
>
>>In article <slrne6d4lp....@thurston.blinkynet.net>, Blinky the
>>Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ulo Melton wrote:
>>>
>>>>art...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But how many steps are there between rotting horse flesh and bacon?
>>>>
>>>>Trigger (I) has a Bacon number of 2. Trigger (I) was in Hit Parade of
>>>>1947 (1947) with Eddie Albert Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The
>>>>(1989) with Kevin Bacon
>>>>
>>>>Black Beauty (I) has a Bacon number of 3. Black Beauty (I) was in
>>>>Three in Exile (1925) with Tom London Tom London was in Domino Kid
>>>>(1957) with Duane Grey Duane Grey was in JFK (1991) with Kevin Bacon
>>>>
>>>>Mister Ed has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity. Mister Ed cannot be
>>>>linked to Kevin Bacon using only feature films.
>>>
>>>More horses:
>>>
>>>Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
>>
>>Does this mean then that Dale Evans has no links as well?
>
>
> I don't know. I didn't look for Dale Evans links.
Three are listed. The first, who I assume is the one we're after, is a 3.
Dana
>
>
> I also sat across the aisle and one ahead on a plane one day from the
> guy who slugged KB in the jaw in Footloose. Dunno if that counts, but
> if it does, I'm a 2.
If that counts (given that I don't know why it should), then I'm a 1
from having waited in line with Bacon to see a film once.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Dana Carpender wrote:
>
>
>>I also sat across the aisle and one ahead on a plane one day from the
>>guy who slugged KB in the jaw in Footloose. Dunno if that counts, but
>>if it does, I'm a 2.
>
>
> If that counts (given that I don't know why it should), then I'm a 1
> from having waited in line with Bacon to see a film once.
>
>
Did you speak with Bacon? Because I spoke with the guy on the plane, or
I would have had no idea he was in Footloose.
How much interaction does one have to have?
Dana
No.
> How much interaction does one have to have?
I always figgered you had to work with him (It's about film links, isn't
it? Have you been in any?), but that's not to say that's the rule.
You're confusing the characters with the actors. Bacon numbers are based
on the identities of the actors, not the names of the characters they
play.
Buttermilk, Flicka and Fury are character names, and the names of the
horses who played those characters were not credited.
Champion was the name of the actor, credited as playing such roles as
"Gene's Horse" and "Champion, World's Wonder Horse".
Scout(II) is the actor who played the part of "Lightning's Horse" in the
film "Lightning Bryce", not the character of "Tonto's Horse".
Silver(III) is the actor who played "Steve's Horse" in "Boss of Lonely
Valley".
There's also Black Beauty(I) and Black Beauty(II) who played the
character of "Black Beauty" in different films. They're both 3s.
Trigger, Roy Roger's horse is a 2.
Horses that are 4s include "Arabia", "Darkie the Horse", "Fleetwood the
Horse", "Pal the Horse", "Snowball I", "Snäckan", "Sunflash the Wonder
Horse" and "Beauty the Horse". "Beauty the Horse" being notable for the
fact that the 4-step link found by oracleofbacon.org includes another
horse.
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> Wasn't it Blinky the Shark who wrote:
>>
>>More horses:
>>
>>Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
>>
>>Scout, which I believe was the name of Tonto's horse, doesn't
>>show up for Tonto, but the horse name does show up in a 1919
>>film and scores a 3.
>>
>>Champion, Gene Autry's horse, is also a 3. "Champion" was in 58
>>films from 1945 through 1953. I don't know if it was the same
>>animal; there were various Lassies (I don't know if there was
>>more than one Rin Tin Tin).
>>
>>Silver (a horse with no obvious ties to The Lone Ranger) gets a
>>3.
>>
>>Flicka (TV) - not listed.
>>
>>Fury (TV) - not listed.
>
> You're confusing the characters with the actors. Bacon numbers
No, I'm not. I know the difference, and my post showed that. I
had no information on the actor name of the horse characters, so I
simply gave their character names a shot. That's how I found
Champion, the actor who played, among other roles, Autry's horse.
The no-hit entries I listed mean that for them no horse named the
same as its character was shown.
> are based on the identities of the actors, not the names of the
> characters they play.
Yeah, I know.
> Buttermilk, Flicka and Fury are character names, and the names
> of the horses who played those characters were not credited.
Yeah, that's what I found out and reported.
> Champion was the name of the actor, credited as playing such
> roles as "Gene's Horse" and "Champion, World's Wonder Horse".
And Gene Autry's horse. And having a BR of 3.
> Scout(II) is the actor who played the part of "Lightning's
> Horse" in the film "Lightning Bryce", not the character of
> "Tonto's Horse".
Yeah. I didn't bother reporting the name of the 1919 film, but I
said that it wasn't Tonto's horse. Did you really read my post? I
think not.
> Silver(III) is the actor who played "Steve's Horse" in "Boss of
> Lonely Valley".
<yawn>
> There's also Black Beauty(I) and Black Beauty(II) who played the
> character of "Black Beauty" in different films. They're both 3s.
> Trigger, Roy Roger's horse is a 2.
Already reported.
> Horses that are 4s include "Arabia", "Darkie the Horse",
> "Fleetwood the Horse", "Pal the Horse", "Snowball I", "Snäckan",
> "Sunflash the Wonder Horse" and "Beauty the Horse". "Beauty the
> Horse" being notable for the fact that the 4-step link found by
> oracleofbacon.org includes another horse.
Thanks for the new information, finally.
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> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>
>>More horses:
>>
>>Buttermilk, which I believe was Dale Evans' horse - no links.
>
>
> I'd like to give Dale Evans some of my buttermilk, boy howdy.
>
> I've found someone who appeared in a dramatic movie but has no links to
> Kevin Bacon. Clarence Darrow--he of the Scopes trial, Loeb and Leopold,
> etc.--played in _From Dusk to Dawn_ (1913). He has a Bacon number of
> infinity.
>
This one might be worth a little research. The film had a cast
of 10,000. Surely at least one of them appeared in another film
with someone who has a Bacon number. The original film, alas,
is lost, so we can't just look at the credits, but others
appearing in the film include Eugene Debs and Job Harriman.
Charles
> Dana Carpender wrote:
>
>>I also sat across the aisle and one ahead on a plane one day from the
>>guy who slugged KB in the jaw in Footloose. Dunno if that counts, but
>>if it does, I'm a 2.
>
> If that counts (given that I don't know why it should), then I'm a 1
> from having waited in line with Bacon to see a film once.
>
And then I would be a 2, from my short conversation with Meryl
Streep on two occasions [and I _do_ mean short].
Charles
My 2 is from the biz. Cheryl Hardwick, first female in the SNL band,
was my accompanist for awhile. Bacon hosted SNL while she was there.
Boron
Thank you. Buttermilk it would seem is a 4, no?
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The original rules were that you had to be in a movie. If not, then I'm a
2, (maybe a 1) but I consier this not the straight bat, what?
--
charles
>I just saw a History Channel doc on Scopes (after having seen "Inherit
>The Wind" a couple months ago). In it were a couple of file footage
>shots of a biplane that reallly caught my eye. It had fully faired
>*tricycle* landing gear. All in all, I suspect it was a '30s craft, but
>Scopes was in the '20s. That's probably not unusual, and it was just
>visual filler -- there was no reference to the airplane; it was like a
>steam locomotive shot or an ocean liner shot to help set a feel for the
>times.
>I took a photo of the screen to post to an aviation group. But what the
>hey -- might as well let AFCA have a crack at it. I've already done a
>fair amount of Googling, but haven't found it. Here's the image:
>http://blinkynet.net/stuff/bipe.jpg
>Distinctive: not just the faired trike gear but the shape of the leading
>edge of the vertical stabilizer that nearly meets the passenger
>compartment, and that the vertical stabilizer also forms what looks like
>a bit of a ventral fin below the horizontal stabilizer and fuselage.
>Any takers?
I couldn't find a picture of anything that remotely looks like that
plane in "The Complete Encyclopedia of World Aircraft", and that book
shows some of the very earliest biplanes. From the peculiar design I
will bet that it is a "one-off" airplane. If you ever find out please
post the answer.
Les
Did he play one of the vampires? Oh, maybe I am thinking of a different
>From Dusk to Dawn.
If we can count acquaintanceship and not being in movies, I'm a 4. My
oldest friend works for Garrison Keillor, who was in something called
Redux Riding Hood with Jim Cummings, who was in Balto with KB.
Mary
Will do. Thanks for the try.
As for "the earliest biplanes", I got hits on Wright Flyer vintage
biplanes with trike gear. That was one of the things that kept queering
my search. And this one obviously isn't an early bipe. Part of my
curiousity about it is if it's indeed something from the '30s, as I
suspect, rather than actually representing the '20s -- not for the sake
of bagging the documentary, but just 'cause I want to know.
here's a new version: Usenet connectivity. The idea is to find a
newsgroup that requires the most connections to a newsgroup you have
posted in. Connections require that individuals have posted in the same
thread.
I am sure you can waste endless hours doing this.
Look here:
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586632124?v=glance
That front gear looks identical. Maybe the biplane was an earlier
version of this experimental Westland Lysander monoplane. Here's
another page that shows the side view of the beast:
www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/lysander.php
Les
Main gear, I'll assume you mean. At any rate, the main gear fairings
and pants on the Lysanders just look like the other main gear fairings
and pants of the day. It's the faired and panted nose gear (and the
existence *of* nose gear) and the shape of the engine cowling and vert
stab that will identify it, if it gets identified.
> www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/lysander.php
But again, I think you for the effort.
I *will* do some Lysander research, just in case.
I'm a 4, too. I was in a picture with Isaac Asimov and he's a 3. Ok,
it was a photograph. Too bad it was the seventies. If it had been
later, someone might have had a video camera and I could say I was in a
direct to video movie with Asimov.
Pattymac
If you're willing to accept stage, I think I have a three. I was in a
high-school play with Maura Russo, who has a 2.
If it's film/video, I think I can pull at least a 4, but I'd have to go
back and figure out who the cast and crew of "Post Nuke Thrill Freaks
Looking for a Kick" were.
--
There is no act of treachery or mean-ness of which a political party
is not capable; for in politics there is no honour.
-- Benjamin Disraeli, "Vivian Grey"
Unless you've been in a feature film, you're "officially" an infinity.
So am I. Unofficially, I'm a 4. My dad went to high school with Jack
Colvin, a minor actor with a Bacon number of 2.
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> Dana Carpender (dcar...@kivanospam.net) wrote:
>> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Bacon number of 2.
>>
>> I'm either a 2 or a 4, depending on how you look at it.
>
> Unless you've been in a feature film, you're "officially" an infinity.
>
> So am I. Unofficially, I'm a 4. My dad went to high school with Jack
> Colvin, a minor actor with a Bacon number of 2.
Oh yeah? Well, I eat bacon for breakfast.
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Mike Brandt wrote:
But do you buy it pre-cooked, or microwave it?
Dana
Counting that way I'm a 3 two different ways. (a) Through a
"friendship"/business relationship with Nicolas Cage and (b) through my
brother in law the obscure actor. (who I *just* found out was in an episode
of "Carnivale" the one called "The Road to Damascus" - does anyone watch
that?)
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*My father started to give me the "Why don't you find a soulmate?"
speech again the other night. I told him he's been watching too many
eHarmony.com commercials. There's no such thing as a soulmate, just an
I-tolerate-your crap-because-I-can't-do-any-better-mate. (Jenn
McNanna)*
I think that if "you are what you eat" - that makes you a 1.
Justin
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Going by acquaintanceship or just meeting someone, I'm a 3 or 5,
then. I've met Dana, and she's a 2 or 4. I once met James Randi
at a skeptics meeting and had dinner with him before the meeting,
and he's a 2. (I very much doubt if he would remember me, though;
there were about three people in between us at the table.) Or I
could be a 3 because I went to a Loudon Wainwright concert and
shook his hand and got his autograph afterwards; Loudon is a 2. (I
was surprised at how tall he is.)
None of which changes the fact that my Bacon number is really
infinite. If I've ever been in a movie it was somewhere far, far
in the background; so far I wasn't even aware of it.