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Charles Bishop
Jul 21, 2015, 1:02:12 PM7/21/15
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When I try to access the main page of Wikipedia, using Safari, I get a
page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
All other pages can be opened with Safari. I don't have another browser.
Any suggestions?
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charles
page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
All other pages can be opened with Safari. I don't have another browser.
Any suggestions?
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charles
Greg Goss
Jul 21, 2015, 1:30:35 PM7/21/15
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their addresses are HTTPS. Have you tried explicitly trying an
HTTP:// on the address?
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We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
hymie!
Jul 21, 2015, 1:30:46 PM7/21/15
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In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
There are many HTTPS algorithms (that's not the right word, but I can't
think of the right word right now) that are considered insecure. Many
servers are disallowing the use of those methods.
So it is possible that your copy of Safari only offers certain HTTPS
methods -- for example, SSLv2 and SSLv3 only -- and their servers are
designed to only allow certain HTTPS methods -- for example, TLSv1.0 --
and you cannot agree.
--hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie hy...@lactose.homelinux.net
Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net>, who said:
>When I try to access the main page of Wikipedia, using Safari, I get a
>page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
>establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
Recently, Wikipedia has and/or soon will switch to HTTPS-only.
>When I try to access the main page of Wikipedia, using Safari, I get a
>page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
>establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
There are many HTTPS algorithms (that's not the right word, but I can't
think of the right word right now) that are considered insecure. Many
servers are disallowing the use of those methods.
So it is possible that your copy of Safari only offers certain HTTPS
methods -- for example, SSLv2 and SSLv3 only -- and their servers are
designed to only allow certain HTTPS methods -- for example, TLSv1.0 --
and you cannot agree.
--hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie hy...@lactose.homelinux.net
Howard
Jul 21, 2015, 1:31:41 PM7/21/15
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anything with an https: -- does https://www.google.com work?
Charles Bishop
Jul 21, 2015, 6:35:57 PM7/21/15
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In article <d17dto...@mid.individual.net>,
That didn't work, adding the suggested bit on to the front of
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
which is what shows up when I try to open Wiki from my toolbar. However
when I was trying the odd thing, there was a window with "https://" and
then the rest of the address, but this didn't work either.
Is the suggestion, that now Safari has some url salad that isn't
acceptable to Wiki, or that Wiki has a requirement for an address that
Safari can't use? It might be the latter as the error page suggests that
Safari "can't establish a secure connection to the server
"en.winipedia.org"
Surely all Safari users aren't having this problem?
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cahrles
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
which is what shows up when I try to open Wiki from my toolbar. However
when I was trying the odd thing, there was a window with "https://" and
then the rest of the address, but this didn't work either.
Is the suggestion, that now Safari has some url salad that isn't
acceptable to Wiki, or that Wiki has a requirement for an address that
Safari can't use? It might be the latter as the error page suggests that
Safari "can't establish a secure connection to the server
"en.winipedia.org"
Surely all Safari users aren't having this problem?
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cahrles
Charles Bishop
Jul 21, 2015, 6:38:13 PM7/21/15
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In article <XnsA4DE899D2EA76...@94.75.214.39>,
Yes, that works. The https:// disappears and is replace by a shaded
portion with (https [padlock icon] ). No parens, though.
Is this a clue?
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charles
portion with (https [padlock icon] ). No parens, though.
Is this a clue?
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charles
Charles Bishop
Jul 21, 2015, 6:39:07 PM7/21/15
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In article <55ae81c6$0$14520$882e...@usenet-news.net>,
Would updating my copy of Safari help?
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charles
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charles
Les Albert
Jul 21, 2015, 7:54:10 PM7/21/15
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:35:54 -0700, Charles Bishop
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> ...
older version of Internet Explorer (" ... can't establish a secure
connection ..."), and the solution was to go into the settings (tools)
and find internet settings under "advanced", and be sure that SSL and
TLS are checked. I was getting the error because TLS wasn't checked
so I changed that and now those web sites no longer produce an error
message.
Les
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> ...
>Is the suggestion, that now Safari has some url salad that isn't
>acceptable to Wiki, or that Wiki has a requirement for an address that
>Safari can't use? It might be the latter as the error page suggests that
>Safari "can't establish a secure connection to the server
>"en.winipedia.org"
I had the same error occur trying to access some web sites using an
>acceptable to Wiki, or that Wiki has a requirement for an address that
>Safari can't use? It might be the latter as the error page suggests that
>Safari "can't establish a secure connection to the server
>"en.winipedia.org"
older version of Internet Explorer (" ... can't establish a secure
connection ..."), and the solution was to go into the settings (tools)
and find internet settings under "advanced", and be sure that SSL and
TLS are checked. I was getting the error because TLS wasn't checked
so I changed that and now those web sites no longer produce an error
message.
Les
Greg Goss
Jul 21, 2015, 8:33:39 PM7/21/15
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people along the way that the data takes to you cannot (easily) see
what's going by. The padlock means that your browser checked a bunch
of stuff and is therefore happy with the security protocols set up by
Google.
According to other people in the thread, there are a number of
different encryption techniques that can be used by HTTPS, and it
looks like your version of Safari cannot supply the one wanted by
Wikipedia.
If it's an old version, perhaps updating might help. Safari is
available for a bunch of OSs. If you don't have other browsers, does
that mean you're on Mac? I thought Opera and Firefox were available
for Macs.
Charles Bishop
Jul 21, 2015, 11:02:34 PM7/21/15
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In article <mhmtqal7t0ku5fbkg...@4ax.com>,
Hmm.
Under Advanced there are HTTPS, HTTP, RTSP, Gopher and FTP that I
recognize, but no SSL and TLS. I checked the boxes for HTTPS and HTTP,
quit Safari, and reopened, but still got the error message.
Thanks for the help though. I'll try a restart when I close down for the
night.
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charles
Under Advanced there are HTTPS, HTTP, RTSP, Gopher and FTP that I
recognize, but no SSL and TLS. I checked the boxes for HTTPS and HTTP,
quit Safari, and reopened, but still got the error message.
Thanks for the help though. I'll try a restart when I close down for the
night.
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charles
Charles Bishop
Jul 23, 2015, 4:38:28 PM7/23/15
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they, and would Apple have them?
Though it doesn't show in the url bar, the websites do have https
attached to them.
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charles
Charles Bishop
Jul 23, 2015, 4:40:24 PM7/23/15
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The url bar shows: [in a shaded area-https with a padlock icon] then
www.google.com[shaded/gws_rd=ssl] at the end of the url.
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charles
Charles Bishop
Jul 23, 2015, 4:43:23 PM7/23/15
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In article <d186n0...@mid.individual.net>,
what I have and what Wiki wants?
I had Firefox on another computer but didn't download it when I got the
new one. I don't use a browser enough, maybe to judge whether one is
better than another one.
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charles
Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <XnsA4DE899D2EA76...@94.75.214.39>,
> > Howard <howa...@notmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > When I try to access the main page of Wikipedia, using Safari, I get a
> >> > page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
> >> > establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
> >> >
> >> > All other pages can be opened with Safari. I don't have another browser.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> It's probably not the issue, but a wild guess is that it's not opening
> >> anything with an https: -- does https://www.google.com work?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes, that works. The https:// disappears and is replace by a shaded
> >portion with (https [padlock icon] ). No parens, though.
> >
> >Is this a clue?
>
> The "S" in the HTTPS means that the web page is sending encrypted -
> people along the way that the data takes to you cannot (easily) see
> what's going by. The padlock means that your browser checked a bunch
> of stuff and is therefore happy with the security protocols set up by
> Google.
>
> According to other people in the thread, there are a number of
> different encryption techniques that can be used by HTTPS, and it
> looks like your version of Safari cannot supply the one wanted by
> Wikipedia.
Hm. would Wiki have changed within the last week or so? Anyway to find
> Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <XnsA4DE899D2EA76...@94.75.214.39>,
> > Howard <howa...@notmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Charles Bishop <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > When I try to access the main page of Wikipedia, using Safari, I get a
> >> > page that says "Safari can't open the page". It also say it cant
> >> > establish a secure connection. This has happened for the last few days.
> >> >
> >> > All other pages can be opened with Safari. I don't have another browser.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> It's probably not the issue, but a wild guess is that it's not opening
> >> anything with an https: -- does https://www.google.com work?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes, that works. The https:// disappears and is replace by a shaded
> >portion with (https [padlock icon] ). No parens, though.
> >
> >Is this a clue?
>
> The "S" in the HTTPS means that the web page is sending encrypted -
> people along the way that the data takes to you cannot (easily) see
> what's going by. The padlock means that your browser checked a bunch
> of stuff and is therefore happy with the security protocols set up by
> Google.
>
> According to other people in the thread, there are a number of
> different encryption techniques that can be used by HTTPS, and it
> looks like your version of Safari cannot supply the one wanted by
> Wikipedia.
what I have and what Wiki wants?
>
> If it's an old version, perhaps updating might help. Safari is
> available for a bunch of OSs. If you don't have other browsers, does
> that mean you're on Mac? I thought Opera and Firefox were available
> for Macs.
No, it only means I haven't added any other browsers other than Safari.
> If it's an old version, perhaps updating might help. Safari is
> available for a bunch of OSs. If you don't have other browsers, does
> that mean you're on Mac? I thought Opera and Firefox were available
> for Macs.
I had Firefox on another computer but didn't download it when I got the
new one. I don't use a browser enough, maybe to judge whether one is
better than another one.
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charles
Snidely
Jul 24, 2015, 3:19:51 AM7/24/15
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Lo, on the 7/23/2015, Charles Bishop did proclaim ...
Does Safari have an "examine element" choice? Or "inspect element"? In
Firefox and Chrome, those show up when you right-click on some part of
the web page. And if you select them, you get a code view, some
sidebars, and a console that has tabs on it. That may give you a
chance to look for error messages at a lower level than the browser
displays to the casual user.
/dps
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Ieri, oggi, domani
Firefox and Chrome, those show up when you right-click on some part of
the web page. And if you select them, you get a code view, some
sidebars, and a console that has tabs on it. That may give you a
chance to look for error messages at a lower level than the browser
displays to the casual user.
/dps
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Ieri, oggi, domani
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