> This fucking sucks.
Yes, both activities will continue.
>This fucking sucks.
This seems to be on a location-by-location basis. My local craigslist
never had 'em. The amateurs are still there.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
> Slow Motion Apocalypse <slowmotion...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >This fucking sucks.
>
> This seems to be on a location-by-location basis. My local craigslist
> never had 'em. The amateurs are still there.
We don't have a Craigslist here, but the two similar services both
recently dropped their adult services. This was just before I joined
either, so I don't know what sort of thing was in there.
I've not checked Freecycle lately.
--
John Hatpin
Craigslist dumps 'adult service' adverts
By Maggie Shiels, Technology reporter, BBC News, Silicon Valley
4 September 2010
Last updated at 17:13 ET
The online marketplace Craigslist has closed the controversial "adult
services" listing in the US.
The company has not said why it took the decision, but it has faced an
ongoing barrage of criticism from attorneys general and advocacy
groups.
They have claimed the listing was a virtual tool for pimps and
prostitutes.
The section has now been replaced with a black and white bar that
reads "censored". An "erotic" service is still active outside the US.
A statement from Craigslist executives is expected in the coming days.
Last year the San Francisco based company removed its "erotic
services" section and replaced it with a fee-based adult category in
response to pressure from 40 state attorneys general.
It also adopted a policy of screening every advert.
In a May blog post, Craigslist chief executive Jim Buckmaster said
Craigslist had "gone beyond fulfilling its legal obligations". The
site was "a leader in the fight against human trafficking and
exploitation," he said.
But critics continued to accuse the firm of helping to facilitate
child prostitution.
The listings came under renewed scrutiny after the suicide in prison
last month of a former medical student who was awaiting trial in the
killing of a masseuse he met through Craigslist.
In early August a paid advert appeared in the Washington Post from two
women appealing for the closure of the adult services section. One
said she had been forced into prostitution at the age of 11, with the
jobs organised through Craigslist.
And last week in a joint letter to Craigslist, 17 attorneys general
said women and children would "continue to be victimised in the market
and trafficking provided by Craigslist".
The latest move by Craigslist to close down the service was welcomed
by Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, a persistent
critic of both the erotic and adult listings.
"We welcome any steps toward eliminating the adult services section
and prostitution ads on Craigslist, as we have urged, and we are
seeking to verify the site's official policy going forward," he said.
"If Craigslist is doing the right thing voluntarily in response to our
coalition of attorneys general, it could set an example for others."
But in the blogosphere there has been broad support for Craigslist's
position.
"It is surely, though, splendidly naive to think Craigslist would
somehow be alone in providing a forum for prostitution ads," said
Chris Matyszczyk on the news blog CNET.com.
"However, Craigslist is in the unfortunate position of being high-
profile and successful and has become a very easy target in what is a
far more complex and nuanced issue than the attorneys general are
making out."
And at Wired, Evan Hansen said: "Internet services may accelerate and
exacerbate some social problems like prostitution, but they rarely
cause them. The root of these issues - and their solutions - lie in
the realm of public policy, not web sites."
Of course, being transparent, it was also a virtual tool for attorneys
general and advocacy groups, provided they could be bothered to get off
their amble self-righteous asses.
Xho
> Slow Motion Apocalypse <slowmotion...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This fucking sucks.
>
> This seems to be on a location-by-location basis. My local craigslist
> never had 'em. The amateurs are still there.
If I understand the situation correctly, there was an "erotic" sub under
the "Services" header. Peeking at RI's CL I don't see it, but all the
personals are still there.
Here in NE Ohio there's a 'censored' tag where I guess it was. bleagh.
Which public policies produce prostitution?
The failure establish a policy to emasculate all infant males except
those destined to be used as breeding stock.
Is there not some (free) publication in the LA area similar to the
Chicago Reader which advertises adult services?
Well, I hardly ever look at Craigslist, and I see something far more
shocking than whatever was there where it says CENSORED now.
Under FOR SALE, there's a link to BABY + KIDS.
--
M C Hamster "Big Wheel Keep on Turnin'" -- Creedence Clearwater Revival
> Well, I hardly ever look at Craigslist, and I see something far more
> shocking than whatever was there where it says CENSORED now.
>
> Under FOR SALE, there's a link to BABY + KIDS.
What, you don't think people would just /give/ them away, do you?
Are you suggesting that Wired isn't the source of Truch (note capital T)?
I'm shocked. I was sure, up until then, that I could believe everything
I read online.
Mary
"California bander"
hehehehehehehe
Under "Personals" they have things like "Women Seeking Men" and "Men
Seeking Women" (and the other two variations). I see they are in a
number of instances blatant sexual come-ons. I never had the chance
to see the now-banned listings under "servces", but I would presume
that enterprising young business people of both genders would find a
way to use the personals ads to advertise their wares. Praise the
lord for our free enterprise system.
It's not so much the manufacturing costs, it's the delivery.
--
John Hatpin
>Lee Ayrton wrote:
and the maintenance.
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
> Are you suggesting that Wired isn't the source of Truch (note capital T)?
What the heck is truch, Google was NO help?
Sorry, forgot to also ask, what's with the t being capitalized?
That's no problem, just put the leftovers in the freezer.
--
Peter, from outside the asylum
I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
...being old takes all day.
- Dover Beach
> In <3di786litic454tfs...@4ax.com> John Hatpin <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> writes:
>
> >Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:54:02 -0500, M C Hamster wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well, I hardly ever look at Craigslist, and I see something far more
> >> > shocking than whatever was there where it says CENSORED now.
> >> >
> >> > Under FOR SALE, there's a link to BABY + KIDS.
> >>
> >> What, you don't think people would just /give/ them away, do you?
>
> >It's not so much the manufacturing costs, it's the delivery.
>
> and the maintenance.
Yeah, but that cost's passed on to the customer
--
John Hatpin
It's a specific Truch, not a generic one.
Isn't that why Craig's list made the "adult services" section, to get
such things out of the personal section?
Xho
In LA at least they get flagged and removed pretty quick. Which sucks.
A lot of those posts are real hookers but there are also many who
don't see themselves as hookers, just trying to drum up rent money etc.
Obviously, the public policies that criminalize the exchange of sexual
favors for financial consideration. Prostitution, like drug use, becomes a
social problem *because* it's criminalized. Cf. the rise and proliferation
of speakeasies and bootlegging following the passage of the 18th Amendment
and the Volstead Act.
--
The main house contained a carefully tuned piano at which Harris, without
any previous musical training, could play and thereby invoke his Lily Queen
into "electro-vital form." -Robert Hine
Which kind is more desirable?
Somebody really needs to alert Sarah Palin about this.
Not that I have too much experience in this, but hypothetically
speaking, I would say the real amateurs.
Truth with a capital T, as in eternal verities, y'know?
Mary
Note that rroger didn't realize 'Truch' was a typo. He's even more literal-
minded than I am, poor guy.
--
The boughs rustled, and the air was stirred by the muffled beat of their
wings: I could see them, like unearthly, boding shapes, as they swooped
between me and the stars. -Bayard Taylor
As near as I could tell, there wasn't anything that implied/suggested
that is was a typo.
Sorry, .....that it was, not that is was.
> Bob <rob...@bestweb.net> wrote in news:dffc4e5e-c53c-4123-99a1-
> 814629...@m15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>>> And at Wired, Evan Hansen said: "Internet services may accelerate and
>>> exacerbate some social problems like prostitution, but they rarely
>>> cause them. The root of these issues - and their solutions - lie in
>>> the realm of public policy, not web sites."
>>
>> Which public policies produce prostitution?
>
> Obviously, the public policies that criminalize the exchange of sexual
> favors for financial consideration.
May I? "..financial considerations outside of marriage".
> Prostitution, like drug use, becomes
> a social problem *because* it's criminalized. Cf. the rise and
> proliferation of speakeasies and bootlegging following the passage of
> the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act.
Handwavingly: The more laws one writes, the more criminals one creates.
> On Sep 5, 9:45 am, M C Hamster <davol...@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> Under "Personals" they have things like "Women Seeking Men" and "Men
>> Seeking Women" (and the other two variations). I see they are in a
>> number of instances blatant sexual come-ons. I never had the chance to
>> see the now-banned listings under "servces", but I would presume that
>> enterprising young business people of both genders would find a way to
>> use the personals ads to advertise their wares. Praise the lord for
>> our free enterprise system.
> In LA at least they get flagged and removed pretty quick. Which sucks. A
> lot of those posts are real hookers but there are also many who don't
> see themselves as hookers, just trying to drum up rent money etc.
In the RI area someone with a hyperactive sense of morality is flagging
pretty much any woman not explicitly seeking marriage. It is a weird war
being waged.
A typo. Truth.
Mary
Not always. Sometimes it is sent back to the supplier of the raw
material.
That is the nature of typos, is it not? I mean, if she was winking and
nudging about it, then it wouldn't be a legitimate typo.
Xho
>On Sep 5, 6:15 pm, Mark Steese <mark_ste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is wasn't a typo.
I thougth the source of Truch was Thragting. It's mined.
TRVTH
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
That's it.
Mary
There. Fixed it.
Mary
John's the expert on that.
Mary
Mary never winks and nudges at me. (pout)
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
This makes any statement insipid, and extra-so with you.
> there wasn't anything that implied/suggested
> that is was a typo.
You know, apart from not making a lot of sense as printed, with the
word in question resembling so closely a common enough english word
that suddenly makes the sentence extrememly meaningful. Moreover,
googling "the source of Truch" gives you the suggestion to try "Truth"
instead.
Think of the difference between a piece of art that's hand made versus
something off the assembly line.
>
> Think of the difference between a piece of art that's hand made versus
> something off the assembly line.
You want a piece of me?
I like tall chicks with chubby thighs and big fat booties. If that
describes you, then sure.
> > >> >In LA at least they get flagged and removed pretty quick. Which sucks.
> > >> >A lot of those posts are real hookers but there are also many who
> > >> >don't see themselves as hookers, just trying to drum up rent money etc.
>
> > >> Which kind is more desirable?
> > >> --
>
> > >Not that I have too much experience in this, but hypothetically
> > >speaking, I would say the real amateurs.
>
> > I haven't had any first hand knowledge but with most service
> > industries, don't you get the best performance by contracting with a
> > professional?
> > --
> > Tim
> Think of the difference between a piece of art that's hand made versus
> something off the assembly line.
I'll take the assembly line product. With hand made there's a slight
chance you'll get a unique piece of rare beauty, but from the assembly
line you know it's consistently good.
With hand made you might be able to get some artistic flourishes added
not available on the assembly line. Especially if you are advertising
specifically for the flourishes and not the standard product.
Go to WalMart
--
The Hidden Draggin
"Everybody's Crazy Person"
I don't see that many tall chicks at WalMart.
David
We don't have one close by and under these arrangements I can't take
them back to my mom's.
http://www.laweekly.com/2010-09-02/news/the-family-prostitute/
>http://tinyurl.com/tallchickwft
http://www.bethelmainesnowwoman.com/snowman.html
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
>> there wasn't anything that implied/suggested
>> that is was a typo.
>
> You know, apart from not making a lot of sense as printed, with the
>word in question resembling so closely a common enough english word
>that suddenly makes the sentence extrememly meaningful. Moreover,
>googling "the source of Truch" gives you the suggestion to try "Truth"
>instead.
You should have renamed the threat.
"'What is Truch', said jousting Pirate."
>
I suspect that there's a lot of regional variation. My closest WalMart
contains shoppers that seem to be about 40% black, even though my city
is overwhelmingly white.
These black people seem to be healthy, intelligent to speak to and
vastly different than the "people of WalMart" that keep surfacing on
email collectons from my joke mailing lists. The white people in the
store never even enter my conciousness -- "just folks".
I'm not a chick, so my 6'5" presence at WalMart is irrelevant. From
here, "They're all short". Somehow I ended up with a 5"2" woman for
my second wife.
( http://www.plentyoffish.com/member1535494.htm )
How did black people end up in Canada?
Brownian Motion?
>On Sep 6, 12:14 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> I suspect that there's a lot of regional variation. My closest WalMart
>> contains shoppers that seem to be about 40% black, even though my city
>> is overwhelmingly white.
>>
>> These black people seem to be healthy, intelligent to speak to and
>> vastly different than the "people of WalMart" that keep surfacing on
>> email collectons from my joke mailing lists. The white people in the
>> store never even enter my conciousness -- "just folks".
>
>How did black people end up in Canada?
When I lived in Toronto, most of the black people I encountered seemed
to speak with a Jamaican accent.
Here in Calgary, most of the ones I encounter out in the city seem to
have the black American accent familiar from TV and the movies.
At the college I attend, there are several Ethiopian immigrants who
talk among themselves in Amharic. Two of these are (I believe)
economic immigrants who moved here with their families (independent of
each other), and the other is here on a student visa. Their accent is
completely different from the American-style accent I hear at WalMart
or the Jamaican I heard in Toronto.
The black girl I met through a local dating site (and her half-sister)
had no accent whatever that I could notice.
Back before the Civil War, Canada was often the target of the
"underground railway", for fear that "slave catchers" would retrieve
them if they didn't get out of the country entirely. However, there
weren't a lot of these blacks by number, and I think that they're
vastly outnumbered by economic migrants that seek a better life in the
modern era.
One of the Amharic blacks at the college told me "I'm not really a
black. I'm just a very dark coloured semite." "Black" is a poor term
to use to talk about race, since it apparently only takes a thousand
years or so for colour to change to match the sun where you've moved
to.
How do blacks end up in Canada? I'm not sure of the forces that
brought the Caribbean blacks to Toronto. I expect that a lot of the
blacks with American accents were fleeing either the draft or racial
hatred in a past generation. The immigrants from Africa are generally
seeking a better life. (I don't know the proportional breakdown
between true refugees and economic migration)
They took the de-L.
Xho
> How do blacks end up in Canada? I'm not sure of the forces that
> brought the Caribbean blacks to Toronto. I expect that a lot of the
> blacks with American accents were fleeing either the draft or racial
> hatred in a past generation. The immigrants from Africa are generally
> seeking a better life. (I don't know the proportional breakdown
> between true refugees and economic migration)
There were 783,000 black Canadians as of 2006; Canada's black population
is likely well over 800,000 now, out of 34 to 35 million. Early on, at
least, their arrival had to do with particular historic events. Around
the American Revolution, for instance, there was a large group of
loyalists who followed the British, who had promised them equality, to
Canada.
Slavery was abolished in Canada in the early part of the 19th century,
and from about 1820 to the U.S. Civil War, tens of thousands of American
blacks arrived on the so-called Underground Railroad.
There was racism in Canadian immigration rules right until 1962, when
restrictions were abolished. That's when several hundred thousand
Caribbean blacks, especially from Jamaica, arrived over several decades,
largely for economic reasons. In the same period, Quebec saw a number of
waves of immigration from French-speaking black countries, notably Haiti.
This touches on most of the major points:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
bill
>> I like tall chicks with chubby thighs and big fat booties. If that
>> describes you, then sure.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/tallchickwft
This Webpage Is Not Available.
>There was racism in Canadian immigration rules right until 1962, when
>restrictions were abolished. That's when several hundred thousand
>Caribbean blacks, especially from Jamaica, arrived over several decades,
>largely for economic reasons. In the same period, Quebec saw a number of
>waves of immigration from French-speaking black countries, notably Haiti.
>
>This touches on most of the major points:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
Clearly a racist article! It calls them Maroons!
TRVCH
She'll have no further truch with you.
What a moron! (oops)
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
Q: Why does hamburger have lower energy than steak?
A: Because it's in the ground state. -- Harold_of_the_Rocks on Fark
For me, a key consideration would be whether they accept credit cards
or not. Those frequent flier miles really, um, mount up. I presume
many of the amateurs won't accept these.
As some place innocuous like "Smith Industries", not as "Jasmine's 'Love
You Long Time' Pleasure Emporium".
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
Logic is a systematic method of coming to
the wrong conclusion with confidence.
> M C Hamster wrote:
>> For me, a key consideration would be whether they accept credit cards
>> or not. Those frequent flier miles really, um, mount up. I presume
>> many of the amateurs won't accept these.
>
> As some place innocuous like "Smith Industries", not as "Jasmine's 'Love
> You Long Time' Pleasure Emporium".
A cow-orker recently claimed that credit card slips from Hooters have
some tame-sounding business name on them. The idea being that
businessmen can pay by company credit card and not have to worry about
explaining where they are lunch.
>As some place innocuous like "Smith Industries", not as "Jasmine's 'Love
>You Long Time' Pleasure Emporium".
Back in 87 or so, a BC politician got hit with a number of scandals.
Among them was racking up thousands of dollars in hooker charges at
the "White Rock Windsurfing Club."
All over the province wives suddenly went back over credit card bills
looking for windsurfing on trips to Vancouver.
Nothing worse than Cannibal Island showing up on your credit card
bill.
--
John Hatpin
I'm looking for open source type offers.
>On Sep 7, 12:55 pm, M C Hamster <davol...@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Slow Motion Apocalypse
>> <slowmotionapocaly...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sep 5, 2:02 pm, Tim <adminstra...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:27:31 -0700 (PDT), Slow Motion Apocalypse
>> >> I haven't had any first hand knowledge but with most service
>> >> industries, don't you get the best performance by contracting with a
>> >> professional?
>> >Think of the difference between a piece of art that's hand made versus
>> >something off the assembly line.
>>
>> For me, a key consideration would be whether they accept credit cards
>> or not. Those frequent flier miles really, um, mount up. I presume
>> many of the amateurs won't accept these.
>
>I'm looking for open source type offers.
Like http://www.typeforge.net/blog/ or
http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/ ?
(Isn't movable type dead? When was the last time type moved?)
> The idea being that
> businessmen can pay by company credit card and not have to worry about
> explaining where they are lunch.
Interesting typo. Freudian?
Charles
It's not dead, it's pining.
--
The Alps are grand in their beauty, Mount Shasta is sublime in its
desolation. -William H. Brewer
As Donny Douglas said in Frasier: "Any idiot knows you've got to pay a
hooker in cash".
> ><http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/products.asp?CID=2&BrowseList=489...>
>
> >http://tiny.cc/4i2uh
>
> Thanks for the link. I can't believe that I didn't know about this
> product. All these years relying on crude estimates and here I could
> have known exactly how big those bull balls were for only $19.95.
It's the product categories that intrigued me ... "Pets", "Equine",
"English", and "Livestock".
/dps
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:52:00 -0700 (PDT), Slow Motion Apocalypse
> <slowmotion...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>In LA at least they get flagged and removed pretty quick. Which sucks.
>>A lot of those posts are real hookers but there are also many who
>>don't see themselves as hookers, just trying to drum up rent money
>>etc.
>
> Which kind is more desirable?
Real hookers trying desperately to drum up rent money, obviously.
There's not a lot you can't get THEM to do.
--
"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." - George Carlin
>On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:54:02 -0500, M C Hamster wrote:
>
>
>> Well, I hardly ever look at Craigslist, and I see something far more
>> shocking than whatever was there where it says CENSORED now.
>>
>> Under FOR SALE, there's a link to BABY + KIDS.
>
>What, you don't think people would just /give/ them away, do you?
>
"Today is the day,
They give babies away,
With every pound of tea"