Why do dead bodies stink?
Opus the Penguin
with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
her brother.
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> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not,
> say, her brother.
Because the germs are smart enough to know that he will grow
larger and more tasty as the years go on...and that eventually
they get everybody!!
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Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented Opus the Penguin broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped.
First, of course, the body poops.
> She wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not,
> say, her brother.
Pretty much everything involved in the immune system depends upon having a
functioning circulatory system, and the parts of the immune system which are
based on cells depend upon those cells getting oxygen to stay alive. So the
immune system doesn't get its stuff to some place the germs are attacking
because there is no circulation and much of stuff depends up cells which die
from lack of oxygen. So once germs get *inside* a dead body, they can go
nuts and there is nothing to stop them.
Now, the thing is, all the stuff from mouth to pooper is not really *inside*
the body, and neither are the air passages in the lungs, the sinuses, the
ear holes up to ear drum, and so forth. Germs usually do not get *inside* a
living body from these places because the body produces various things
(depending on the area) that would make the germs have to go "upstream." The
nose produces snot, the skin produces oily zit stuff, and so forth. That
stuff flows out, making it much harder for germs to move in.
So lots of vunerable places are to germs like a down escalator they are
trying to walk up. Occasionally a very energetic germ does make it to the
top of the down escalator (that is, gets inside the body) and you get sick
or get an infection of some body part, but as a living person you have an
immune system to deal with this possibility. However, for a dead body, the
down escalator is not going down. It is stopped. The germs doesn't have to
be especially energetic to climb up and get inside, and when it does, there
is no immune system to stop it.
In other words, the flow of mucous, body oils, and so forth that keep germs
out of various areas stops. So there is nothing to keep germs out, and
nothing to stop them when they get in.
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> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not,
> say, her brother.
People are still using the live bodies. Once you stop using them
(because they're dead) then it's the germs' turn.
--
Huey
Greg Johnson
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>her brother.
They're always trying, but mainly your skin keeps them out. When they
do get in, your body does various things to stop them, but that only
works as long as you're alive.
M. Shirley Chong
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
Maybe because her brother is so obnoxious he takes away the
appetites of the germs?
Seriously, living humans have active immune systems that kill off or
control germs. All the cells in dead bodies are dead, including
those wonderful macrophages, etc, that keep germs at bay in a living
body.
Shirley, who has experienced decomposing before dying and does not
recommend it in the least
Opus the Penguin
> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had
>> to do with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then
>> pooped. She wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies
>> particularly and not, say, her brother.
>
> Maybe because her brother is so obnoxious he takes away the
> appetites of the germs?
>
Now there's an answer she can get behind!
John Hatpin
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
How old is she? You can use this for behaviour modification. You
could tell her that germs don't eat live bodies because live bodies
keep their bedrooms tidy. That's the only reason germs don't ....
then stop suddenly and look worriedly at her.
And sniff.
--
John Hatpin
http://uninformedcomment.wordpress.com/
Opus the Penguin
> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had
>> to do with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then
>> pooped. She wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies
>> particularly and not, say, her brother.
>
> How old is she?
She's 14. But she's mildly autistic, so there's some developmental
delay. Think 11 or 12 for mind game purposes.
> You can use this for behaviour modification. You
> could tell her that germs don't eat live bodies because live
> bodies keep their bedrooms tidy. That's the only reason germs
> don't .... then stop suddenly and look worriedly at her.
>
> And sniff.
That is an awesome idea.
art...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink.
Putrescine
Cadaverine
Kajikit
That's mean!
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John Hatpin
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:52 +0000, John Hatpin
> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> >Opus the Penguin wrote:
> >
> >> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> >> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> >> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> >> her brother.
> >
> >How old is she? You can use this for behaviour modification. You
> >could tell her that germs don't eat live bodies because live bodies
> >keep their bedrooms tidy. That's the only reason germs don't ....
> >then stop suddenly and look worriedly at her.
> >
> >And sniff.
>
> That's mean!
I just wish I'd thought of it when my kids were younger, before they
had their Biology lessons at school.
(Actually, they don't study Biology, or Physics or Chemistry for that
matter. They study Science, and it's a half hour every alternate
Thursday or something. Can't interfere with Media Studies or
Performing Arts, y'know. Damn the Dept of Education, damn them to
hell.)
Dana Carpender
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
>
Because her brother presumably has a functioning immune system. Healthy
living bodies hunt down and kill invaders. Thank heavens.
Dana
Les Albert
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>her brother.
You gave her an answer that was bound to result in more questions. You
should have told her that it's not confined to dead bodies; many live
bodies also stink.
Les
Jim Prescott
>with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>her brother.
Dead bodies tend to have greatly compromised immune systems.
--
Jim Prescott Edmund A. Hajim School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
j...@seas.rochester.edu University of Rochester, NY
Mark Steese
news:Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101:
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
The compounds that are mostly responsible for the stink, putrescine and
cadaverine, are generated by the breakdown of amino acids (cadaverine
derives from lysine); they're both present in small quantities in living
people (putrescine is one of the things that makes some people's breath
unbearably foul), but for the most part our amino acids remain locked up in
our body tissues while we're alive; the bacteria that like to eat 'em can't
get at 'em until our muscles get broken down by other bacteria. The reason
those other bacteria like to eat dead muscles instead of live ones is
because they've evolved to take advantage of a widely-available and easily-
obtainable food source, and being bacteria, they have no problem hanging
around live people and waiting.
--
Mark Steese
=======================================================================
PS: Your second question, you thought I forgot? I didn't. I never found the
banana slug. - William Least Heat-Moon
Mark Steese
@news.eternal-september.org:
Healthy living bodies have just as many bacteria as dead ones, of course.
The bacteria that will start the decomposition process aren't invaders:
they're residents, just waiting to get the go-ahead so they can start their
remodeling project. Bacteria are remarkably patient.
Opus the Penguin
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
>> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had
>>> to do with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then
>>> pooped. She wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies
>>> particularly and not, say, her brother.
>>
>> Because her brother presumably has a functioning immune system.
>> Healthy living bodies hunt down and kill invaders. Thank
>> heavens.
>
> Healthy living bodies have just as many bacteria as dead ones, of
> course. The bacteria that will start the decomposition process
> aren't invaders: they're residents, just waiting to get the
> go-ahead so they can start their remodeling project. Bacteria are
> remarkably patient.
What do they eat while they're waiting?
Les Albert
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Les
Bill Turlock
Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
Bill Turlock
>
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:52 +0000, John Hatpin
> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> >Opus the Penguin wrote:
> >
> >> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> >> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> >> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> >> her brother.
> >
> >How old is she? You can use this for behaviour modification. You
> >could tell her that germs don't eat live bodies because live bodies
> >keep their bedrooms tidy. That's the only reason germs don't ....
> >then stop suddenly and look worriedly at her.
> >
> >And sniff.
>
> That's mean!
And liable to get CPS involved...
Mac
Didn't the residents at Johns Hopkins suggest those....
Mark Steese
news:Xns9CC981D8F11A4op...@192.168.1.101:
Anything we feel like feeding them. If you're the kind of complex
multicellular lifeform that eats dead complex multicellular lifeforms, you
need critters in your gut that can break down the tough bits for you. Once
you've become a dead complex multicellular lifeform yourself, the critters
obligingly perform the same service on your own tough bits. Cool, huh?
Mark Steese
$q...@harn.ceas.rochester.edu:
> In article <Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101>,
> Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>>with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>>wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>>her brother.
>
> Dead bodies tend to have greatly compromised immune systems.
To the contrary. You can expose a dead body to anything from an everyday
rhinovirus to *Yersinia pestis* without having to worry about it getting
sick.
John Hatpin
> Lars Eighner wrote:
> >
> > In other words, the flow of mucous, body oils, and so forth that keep germs
> > out of various areas stops. So there is nothing to keep germs out, and
> > nothing to stop them when they get in.
>
> Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
Jen
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote in news:he6e6k$mu0$2
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>>> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>>> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>>> her brother.
>> Because her brother presumably has a functioning immune system. Healthy
>> living bodies hunt down and kill invaders. Thank heavens.
>
> Healthy living bodies have just as many bacteria as dead ones, of course.
> The bacteria that will start the decomposition process aren't invaders:
> they're residents, just waiting to get the go-ahead so they can start their
> remodeling project. Bacteria are remarkably patient.
Well, not really; they're more like the colonists on those starships in
science fiction novels - passing the torch on generation after countless
generation, until they reach the Final Destination.
--
Jen
art...@yahoo.com
> Jim Prescott <j...@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in news:he6jr4
>
> > In article <Xns9CC944C9587Bopusthepenguinnet...@192.168.1.101>,
> > Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> >>with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> >>wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> >>her brother.
>
> > Dead bodies tend to have greatly compromised immune systems.
>
> To the contrary. You can expose a dead body to anything from an everyday
> rhinovirus to *Yersinia pestis* without having to worry about it getting
> sick.
Yeah, but you probably don't want to tell the family of the deceased
that the patient is in stable condition, as true as that might be.
Xho Jingleheimerschmidt
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kivanospam.net> wrote in news:he6e6k$mu0$2
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>>> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>>> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>>> her brother.
>> Because her brother presumably has a functioning immune system. Healthy
>> living bodies hunt down and kill invaders. Thank heavens.
>
> Healthy living bodies have just as many bacteria as dead ones, of course.
Are you counting species, or individual bacterium cells?
Xho
Xho Jingleheimerschmidt
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink.
Uh oh. Are any of her classmates missing? Have you checked under her bed?
> I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
Her brother works rather hard to keep that from happening.
Xho
N Jill Marsh
<RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>Bill Turlock wrote:
>
>> Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
>
>I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
Yes, that's why all those passages are lined with epithelial cells.
nj"inside out"m
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John Hatpin
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:03:33 +0000, John Hatpin
> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> >Bill Turlock wrote:
> >
> >> Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
> >
> >I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
>
> Yes, that's why all those passages are lined with epithelial cells.
>
> nj"inside out"m
But so are the lungs. Were they once on the outside?
John Hatpin
> N Jill Marsh wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:03:33 +0000, John Hatpin
> > <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Bill Turlock wrote:
> > >
> > >> Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
> > >
> > >I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
> >
> > Yes, that's why all those passages are lined with epithelial cells.
> >
> > nj"inside out"m
>
> But so are the lungs. Were they once on the outside?
Strike that. I wasn't thinking topologically enough, sorry.
N Jill Marsh
<RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>N Jill Marsh wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:03:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Bill Turlock wrote:
>> >
>> >> Topologically, the human body is a toroid. BYKT
>> >
>> >I'd never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.
>>
>> Yes, that's why all those passages are lined with epithelial cells.
>>
>> nj"inside out"m
>
>But so are the lungs. Were they once on the outside?
They still are, John.
nj"upside down, ooh you're turning me"m
Peter Ward
... 10238215, 10238216, 10238217
> Are you counting species, or individual bacterium cells?
Individual cells.
1, 2, 3, ...
--
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I'm an alien
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Real life is far from ideal.
Snidely
> <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Mark Steese (mark_ste...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> >> Dana Carpender <dcarp...@kivanospam.net> wrote:
> >> Healthy living bodies have just as many bacteria as dead ones, of
> >> course. The bacteria that will start the decomposition process
> >> aren't invaders: they're residents, just waiting to get the
> >> go-ahead so they can start their remodeling project. Bacteria are
> >> remarkably patient.
> >What do they eat while they're waiting?
>
> Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaking of death and corruption the black color on string beans as
they reach the end of their stay in your refrigreator -- how serious
is that from a complex organism's point of view? If the beans are
still firm?
/dps
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article
<edb7f62b-9b6f-4f61...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>):
> On Nov 20, 10:02ï¿œpm, Mark Steese <mark_ste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jim Prescott <j...@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in news:he6jr4
>> $...@harn.ceas.rochester.edu:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9CC944C9587Bopusthepenguinnet...@192.168.1.101>,
>>> Opus the Penguin ￜ<opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>>>> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>>>> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>>>> her brother.
>>
>>> Dead bodies tend to have greatly compromised immune systems.
>>
>> To the contrary. You can expose a dead body to anything from an everyday
>> rhinovirus to *Yersinia pestis* without having to worry about it getting
>> sick.
>
>
> Yeah, but you probably don't want to tell the family of the deceased
> that the patient is in stable condition, as true as that might be.
Isn't it "deteriorating"?
--
Jerry "asymptotically" Baouer
Don K
news:Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101...
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
Whether an odor is perceived as pleasant, stinky, or neutral, probably has
more to do with the inherent biological makeup of our brain and olfactory
sensors than whether the source of the odor is living or dead.
Don
Veronique
I don't think they do, generally, as they have air inside the lungs
and after a bit also tend to bloat up with gas. Of course, sinkage can
be facilitated by wrapping the body in chains or embedding the feet in
a bucket of concrete or filling the pockets with river stones or
otherwise weighting the body to be sunk.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101>):
> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> her brother.
>
>
But they don't smell.
Rick B.
f58525...@y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Thank you, Ms. Litella.
Opus the Penguin
> On Nov 19, 10:31�pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin
> +use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink.
>
> I don't think they do, generally, as they have air inside the
> lungs and after a bit also tend to bloat up with gas.
Emily...
> Of course, sinkage can be facilitated by wrapping the body in
chains or embedding the feet in a bucket of concrete
Emily!
> or filling the pockets with river stones or otherwise weighting the
body to be sunk.
>
EMILY!!!!
"STINK"!. Why do dead bodies STINK?
Bill Turlock
What good are their noses, then?
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <4B08C9AB...@sonnnic.invalid>):
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
Les Albert
The black color is decay. It probably won't hurt you if you cook the
string beans, but why would you want to eat decayed vegetables?
Les
Snidely
> The black color is decay. It probably won't hurt you if you cook the
> string beans, but why would you want to eat decayed vegetables?
I have an aversion to throwing things out unused. For which reason I
I have learned to usually not buy more than 2 servings of fresh beans
at a time. But Fresh&Easy doesn't have packages that small nor does
it have loose beans.
/dps
Mark Steese
news:he91cr$m1a$1...@news.albasani.net:
But most bacteria reproduce by splitting into genetically identical
copies of themselves; the next generation is, for all intents and
purposes, the previous generation. Bacteria that find themselves under
attack by antibiotics (e.g., *Escherichia coli*) are under strong
selective pressure to mutate, and the mutated strains can reasonably be
considered offspring, but for the most part, the little cocci in the gut
today are the same old germs as yesterday.
Mark Steese
news:4b0825c7$0$8034$ed36...@nr5-q3a.newsreader.com:
I hired some guys in India to do that.
Peter Ward
There's no extra pressure to mutate, mutation will happen or it won't,
just as before. It's just that if a resistant mutation occurs, it may
thrive while the thoroughbreds die.
--
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I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and
they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a
structure which has no relation to reality.
- Nikola Tesla
Bill Turlock
even Jos�?
Jen
Actually, I have to disagree here. There is an increasing body of
evidence that when a bacterial cell divides one of the daughter cells
gets the majority of the newly synthesized material. Even bacterial
cells appear to 'age' by accumulating damaged DNA, and finally stop
dividing and die. I'm being idle in not looking up the references, but I
can if you're interested.
--
Jen
Xho Jingleheimerschmidt
> Mark Steese says...
>> But most bacteria reproduce by splitting into genetically identical
>> copies of themselves; the next generation is, for all intents and
>> purposes, the previous generation. Bacteria that find themselves under
>> attack by antibiotics (e.g., *Escherichia coli*) are under strong
>> selective pressure to mutate, and the mutated strains can reasonably be
>> considered offspring, but for the most part, the little cocci in the gut
>> today are the same old germs as yesterday.
>
> There's no extra pressure to mutate, mutation will happen or it won't,
> just as before. It's just that if a resistant mutation occurs, it may
> thrive while the thoroughbreds die.
There are various studies that suggest that microorganisms can kick up
the mutation rate in certain stressful environments.
As always, some people find them more persuasive than others.
Xho
Mark Steese
news:hecbri$lid$1...@news.albasani.net:
I didn't mean to suggest that a bacterium sticks around indefinitely
after reproducing. My point was simply that for bacteria, reproduction
is more like cloning an old generation of adults than producing a new
generation of children. The clones will, of course, go through a life
cycle of their own, as will their clones, their clones' clones, and so
on.
bill van
<96d8aee0-7ec3-4583...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mmmmm, loose beans.
Les Albert
However you buy them, loose or packaged, why don't you freeze them? It
prevents the decay.
Les
Mac
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), Snidely
>
I also wrecks them, to a certain extent. Unless you can freeze 'em -
real- fast, it turns them slightly mushy. If you want 'em frozen, buy
'em frozen.
Hactar
Mac <ANMC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 6:09 pm, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), Snidely
> >
> > <snidely....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Nov 22, 10:20 am, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> The black color is decay. It probably won't hurt you if you cook the
> > >> string beans, but why would you want to eat decayed vegetables?
> > >I have an aversion to throwing things out unused. For which reason I
> > >I have learned to usually not buy more than 2 servings of fresh beans
> > >at a time. But Fresh&Easy doesn't have packages that small nor does
> > >it have loose beans.
> >
> > However you buy them, loose or packaged, why don't you freeze them? It
> > prevents the decay.
>
> real- fast, it turns them slightly mushy. If you want 'em frozen, buy
> 'em frozen.
Form an LN2 collective.
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Les Albert
wrote:
>On Nov 22, 6:09�pm, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:30:47 -0800 (PST), Snidely
>> <snidely....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 22, 10:20�am, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> The black color is decay. �It probably won't hurt you if you cook the
>> >> string beans, but why would you want to eat decayed vegetables? �
>> >I have an aversion to throwing things out unused. �For which reason I
>> >I have learned to usually not buy more than 2 servings of fresh beans
>> >at a time. �But Fresh&Easy doesn't have packages that small nor does
>> >it have loose beans.
>> However you buy them, loose or packaged, why don't you freeze them? It
>> prevents the decay.
>I also wrecks them, to a certain extent. Unless you can freeze 'em -
>real- fast, it turns them slightly mushy. If you want 'em frozen, buy
>'em frozen.
But even if they become slightly mushy it is still better than eating
decayed string beans (see above). But maybe you like crisp and
decayed string beans.
Les
Mac
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:43:13 -0800 (PST), Mac <ANMCC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU>
No, i think the solution is to eat them. Some raw, some steamed, some
stir fried. Some by yourself, and some with friends and family. Some
in salads, and some pickled, but just eat the fresh veggies while they
are fresh, and buy a separate bag of frozen stuff that's been frozen
by somebody with a blast freezer.
Les Albert
wrote:
You have shifted the discussion away from Snidely's problem of keeping
too many beans so long that they start to decay. See his post above.
I have decided that you are Max Kelada.
Les
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>On Nov 23, 9:55�am, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
Really fresh ones are not had difficult to freeze and are worth it.
Blanch quickly, then drain and lay out on jelly-roll type pans to
freeze. Once frozen, bag 'em. They taste pretty darn good and are
often better than buying fresh at a plain grocery store, where they
often aren't fresh at all.
Or go to Trader Joe's and buy their frozen ones. They are very nice.
Boron
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>You have shifted the discussion away from Snidely's problem of keeping
>too many beans so long that they start to decay. See his post above.
>
Compost them at that point.
Boron
Mac
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800 (PST), Mac <ANMCC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU>
Not at all. I say "eat them first, before they rot, since they are a
relatively versatile food that can be prepared different ways.
Towards the end, put 'em in icewater to plump them, but just use 'em
up."
> I have decided that you are Max Kelada.
Keep your wife outa this, sir.
Mac
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800 (PST), Mac <ANMCC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Nov 23, 9:55 am, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:43:13 -0800 (PST), Mac <ANMCC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Nov 22, 6:09 pm, Les Albert <lalbe...@aol.com> wrote:>
> > >them slightly mushy. If you want 'em frozen, buy
> >> >'em frozen.
>
> >> But even if they become slightly mushy it is still better than eating
> >> decayed string beans (see above). But maybe you like crisp and
> >> decayed string beans.
>
> >No, i think the solution is to eat them. Some raw, some steamed, some
> >stir fried. Some by yourself, and some with friends and family. Some
> >in salads, and some pickled, but just eat the fresh veggies while they
> >are fresh, and buy a separate bag of frozen stuff that's been frozen
> >by somebody with a blast freezer.
>
> Really fresh ones are not had difficult to freeze and are worth it.
> Blanch quickly, then drain and lay out on jelly-roll type pans to
> freeze. Once frozen, bag 'em. They taste pretty darn good and are
> often better than buying fresh at a plain grocery store, where they
> often aren't fresh at all.
I dunno. Reading from context, I'd say the OP thinks blanching has
something to do with relying on the kindness of strangers.
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>On Nov 23, 12:06�pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The Napoleonic Code of green beans.
Boron
Snidely
> > >No, i think the solution is to eat them.
That's why I usually don't buy so many.
> I dunno. Reading from context, I'd say the OP thinks blanching has
> something to do with relying on the kindness of strangers.
It's what I do when faced with serious kitchen work.
/dps
groo
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:50 -0800, Opus the Penguin wrote
> (in article <Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101>):
>
>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>> her brother.
>>
> But they don't smell.
>
How do you know?
--
Beware the Tell Tale Nose.
QueBarbara
It depends; how is their eyesight?
--
QueBarbara
Snidely
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:18:35 -0800, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock
>
>
>
> "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
> >Hieronymus Agricola wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:50 -0800, Opus the Penguin wrote
>
> >> > The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
> >> > with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
> >> > wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
> >> > her brother.
>
> >> But they don't smell.
>
> >What good are their noses, then?
>
> It depends; how is their eyesight?
The carrots are dead, too.
/dps
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <Xns9CCCB66E8F88994...@188.40.43.245>):
I have no knows.
Bill Turlock
I could give you a glimp. I have some spare glimps.
Bill Kinkaid
<use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:52 -0700, groo wrote
>(in article <Xns9CCCB66E8F88994...@188.40.43.245>):
>
>> Hieronymus Agricola <use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:50 -0800, Opus the Penguin wrote
>>> (in article <Xns9CC944C9587Bop...@192.168.1.101>):
>>>
>>>> The girl wants to know why dead bodies stink. I told her it had to do
>>>> with the germs (microbes?) that ate the body and then pooped. She
>>>> wanted to know why the germs ate dead bodies particularly and not, say,
>>>> her brother.
>>>>
>>> But they don't smell.
>>>
>>
>> How do you know?
>
>I have no knows.
>
And I must sneeze.
--
Bill in Vancouver